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the european union and the american project scrolling using the mandates of throeder and then merkel, the european union tried to build their own policy with everyone. but the americans said, you are our project and you will do what we want. and therefore, no european leader is really independent today. first of all, things here are being directed by biden and zalinski, who make demands on various and you countries that have begun to remember how it was when the conflict in ukraine began. they were discussing whether to send helmets and field bands to ukraine, and now they're talking about long range missiles. i want to explain this to the opposite side in particular so that my 3 questioners understand me. i fully understand rushes true positions which everyone is familiar with, of course. but i think that talking directly will help in reaching
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a common understanding on this issue. republic, a service did not allow bosnia and herzegovina to support sanctions against russia, despite the fact that some of its some best suitors to the un and, and other places, supported them on their own initiative. irresponsibly bypassing the laws and the constitution of bosnia and herzegovina. the sanctions cannot be levied because no consensus has been reached on this issue and will not be possible in the future. this is why a republic a service is under intense pressure and it is increasingly difficult for us to harmonize our already difficult situation in terms of politics, economics, finance, or any other sphere. and open question is the gas pipeline, which has been the topic of our meetings for almost 15 years. at least now we have
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taken the 1st step of the council of ministers of bosnia and herzegovina, has decided to hold and negotiations with serbia and seek agreement on the location where the gas pipeline will be connected. there's still a long way to go. we have to carry out and the monitors several more procedures, but this is realistic. so there's been some progress on the matter. we want to build this gas pipeline. obviously, the world has not yet found an alternative. we are now seeing a decrease in gas prices and the more but this is because the winter heating season has ended, industry needs large quantities of gas, but the population does not consume much. currently, we will see what will happen in the fall. we are small consumers almost in significant in terms of the regions total consumption, let alone at a global level. but we do have our own needs. we want to see firm commitment on
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russia's parts to support the companies that invest in this gas pipeline. to move it to for 30 years now we have existed as parts of bosnia and herzegovina under impossible conditions from political, constitutional and legal standpoints. bosnia and herzegovina was created by the dates and the chords as part of a consensus of global powers, including russia. this decision was made with respect to the warring parties in bosnia and herzegovina. at the time, the government of republic, a service come and the federation of bosnia and herzegovina who status no one recognized then after the war, we entered the phase when the western powers ignored freedom. and this was called a constitution. they began to create and implement a policy to unify and centralize bosnia and herzegovina which was primarily aimed
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at destroying republicans serves only certain institutions on the general level of bosnia and herzegovina were strength and they deprived republic a service of $83.00 of its powers, which were granted directly to republic a search scott, in accordance with the dates and the agreement and the constitution of bosnia and herzegovina. they camouflaged it in various ways. sometimes it happened due to our carelessness, but a whopping 90 percent were imposed by representatives high up who had no rights to do so late or discontinued with unconstitutional actions from the constitutional court. which is very difficult to prove. how could a constitutional court act against the constitution in bosnia and herzegovina? it is possible you have bosnia and herzegovina such as it is. and there is
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a constitutional court, which acts unconstitutionally, consists of 3 foreigners. one is german. another is a german from switzerland and one is albania, and historically they have always a posed serbian national interest in this area. the 34, and judges along with 2 muslims make up the majority. 5 of 9 judges in bosnia and herzegovina is constitutional court. of course, this creates a serious problem with the functioning of the court, and this cannot continue. now we have on the attack on the property of republic, a service comes which has been disputed all this time. we carried out the privatization of state owned enterprises and republic, a search scott on the basis that they were our property. on this occasion. there was an opinion from the office of the high representative which was been responsible for the civil interpretation of the dates and the agreement. now suddenly, there are additional unconstitutional decisions from the constitutional court. a
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conversation has begun about how to remove our authority in managing rivers, forrest agricultural lands and everything related to them. this means taking away power plants and bridges and other facilities and putting them under the regulation of the general government of bosnia and herzegovina. this is not provided for by the constitution or the date and the cords. there is no place for us in such a bosnia and herzegovina, we should not be in bosnia and herzegovina does not respect to the constitution. that's why we have always said give us a constitutional bosnia and herzegovina and there will be no problems. but this will never happen. that is why we want to get out of it. that is the whole point of my answer. it cannot happen any other way. we're talking about abstracts, things, if it comes to it, the political system in its current state is incapable of war. we cannot and must
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not let it happen. it is better to remain in this situation. however, difficult it is politically, economically, or any other way is bosnia. and herzegovina, its republic, a service gun. it does. so at the international level, it has already quit at the can nomic level and where ever it could. we don't get anything from bosnia and herzegovina over the past 20 years since the dates and the agreements. we have not seen any benefits from bosnia and herzegovina. we are local residents under political control imposed on us by external players. it has been this way for many years since the civil war, which ended in 1995 the remain here, unexplored the situation by imposing on us again. russia has no say any more. it doesn't have the same role used to have in the piece implementation council. it is no longer operational within the framework of the dayton agreement. but it took it
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upon itself to make the decisions regarding bosnia and herzegovina. now the counsel includes only western powers, western countries, and their vassals, that always support the west behavior. even though the west simply tramples on the principles of international law. today we respect the data and agreement and are ready to respect the constitution of bosnia and herzegovina. but the question is, how useful is it? why should we respect something that is disappearing? well, trying to defend ourselves from those who keep accusing us. so this is a difficult situation. it is complicated, but i don't think that more is a possible scenario. we are not preparing for such an outcome. here is our 1st step . give us a chance to live in a country with a constitution that everybody abides by. if you don't do that order, then one day we might decide that we are no longer parts of bosnia and herzegovina,
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to be honest, we are thinking about it this schmidt to guide the high representative who was not appointed by the security council imposes laws on the federation book is he's trying to dictate something regarding our assets, then a day may come when our republic declares independence. if your property is taken away, then what is the point of staying? let's just go there. and so the brother setup and are interested in europe has been against the serbs here for a long time. from the time when the ottoman empire was about to fall, a part of the english gray for us to be reckoned with at the time developed a policy that prevented serves from uniting as one nation. they did everything they could to make sure it never happens. the english implemented the policy in 1915 and the beginning of world war one. they knew that serbia would win the war, but at
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a great cost to prevent the formation of a serbian states in the balkans, they promoted the whole yugoslavia concept. in 1915 to 1916, they brought a delegation of cro ads to corps folks to get their support for the shared state idea. this was obviously a trap. the trap was set in the beginning of the last century. and at the end of the century, it fell apart. nieto bombed yugoslavia and the country that many didn't want to see on the map service wanted. it's because they were under the illusion that it was their state. but in reality, serbs living in bonnie lucas crying croatia and other places had nothing to do with serbia. everything was organized through administrative areas and people had to adjust. but at some point, this arrangement stopped working, croatia immediately claimed to the region that had been given to them by the
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clements, even though historically it was not their land. but today, it is their state. the same happened with bosnia and herzegovina. the content is created it as a socialist republic, within these borders. before world war 2, there was no bosnia and herzegovina here. and there were, but no visions that fought against communism. especially in the west, the communist drew all the borders, the impose demo in service and send that service. they had to accept this new reality. the only reality was the crow at square allowed to form their own state while serves were not why. if muslims could have their own country, then why couldn't serbs have the same because they have their own country. why do you think you just loved the fella? part serves were a majority about 36 percent and they kept saying they couldn't tolerate the serbian
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domination. how were we supposed to tolerate the muslim domination in bosnia and herzegovina? what sort of justice is that? it's an injustice for which the english were responsible. and this injustice continues in various ways. there diplomats coming to the region were trained under the same system created during the fall of the ottoman empire. that is why we see this difficult situation on the will of the people is not taken into account. just let us hold a referendum in republic, a search come and see what people want. are their doubts about the will of the people? there are no doubts. and that is why we are not allowed to hold the referendum. they would agree to a compromise in other places in the west, wherever it suits them. for example, they were okay with the referendum in one community, 2 and a half percent of the population change the polls. mostly albanians in northern costs of over. and they said that it was
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a legitimate referendum. there was no common sense here, no explanation. it is outrageous in republic, a search scott, 85 percent of serves would vote in favor of an independent state. but we're not allowed. it's legally impossible to give it, but it doesn't mean we should have bending the idea of just because people sitting in distant offices believe we deserve to be governed by external forces and don't deserve to be in control of our own land. we must into band and the idea that we have the right to do this because we are a people that suffered a lot in the past century. at the hands of those who dare to lecture us today. the germans, for example, they attacked the serbs twice during 2 world wars, killing them on our large scale. germans methodically slaughtered half of the serbian population back them. half of the people living in this land were killed.
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and at the end of last century, they came here again, this time as nato troops to bomb our country. and now they're trying to impose political decisions on us that are unacceptable to serve you. and perhaps it is not a good thing to say right now, but we need to understand that their policies caused anger and discontent. and it is disgraceful. we are not looking for masters from outside of our lands. we don't control german at your austria and we don't want other countries to rule our land, but they think they can do this because they are strong. germany would never have become strong, but for the cheap oil and gas that it has been getting from russia. we will see what happens to them now, and i'm not being sarcastic. we're spiteful. i just want the peace of god to prevail. and for all people to be able to address issues related to human rights on
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their own. we have seen how the west tried to scare and intimidate us, aiming to seize control of those territories. i should use the notes to no quarter idle but other than an hour people are no longer participating in the work of north atlantic councils, ministerial meetings, and his commission on any of the aspects of cooperation. the work of this commission is marked by abuse and a willingness to please. primarily it's muslim participants and some natal member states. our position on nato should not be called into question for us. neither is the organization that bombed our people. they dropped the bombs on us twice, killed our children, and just decided as collateral damage the unofficially called the military operation. the took the lives of our children. merciful angel,
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it fills us with indignation. of course, this is the only right decision. you see, we don't want to be part of nato, which bombed the serbs twice some 20 to 30 years ago. it 1st belonged to republic, a service come, and then serbia. we cannot trust them after that. on the other hand, we cannot ignore the fact that they are a geo political factor and the military force. besides many things here have stayed the same. after the l. c, a peacekeeping mission was launched. we hear that muslims are prompting the l. c of forces to take control to and when we see what needle forces are doing, we start to think that it is the boss and the x who calls the shots. if this is true, we shouldn't be partnering with them. we don't need to be there at all and not to let them dictate their terms to us and send in their supervisors. i assure you that
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most of the ruling elite as well as ordinary citizens of republic, a search scott support this decision to i it is up in the face of the many. why do you think most of the european countries, even the ones that have always been neutral, have now abandoned neutrality? what motivated them? first of all, the u. s. has set up a system of governance that is widely spread in this region at all levels in all sectors of life, from education to finance. if you're not part of the policies they pursue, they will break the chain and cut their funding, and then they will put you in a position where you will have problems coming. your way commercial banks are controlled by the us treasury, which supervisors every financial transaction. they make every 4 and payment no matter where it comes from, has now to be processed through the so called correspondent account of a commercial bank. and those are mainly american or other western banks. and they
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can block assets, they just hold onto the funds and block transactions. this has a direct effect on the economy threatening to destabilize many countries. people that see something is happening in the world that is beyond their understanding and choose to suspend commercial operations. they hope that one day things will return to normal. today we are in a difficult situation when we constantly grapple with some problems. it is challenging as i see it. we are either clashing with americans or with brussels. now we are defending our constitutional position, which is being undermined by the americans, their british, and the people in brussels. they do it by talking about abstract things that are supposed to happen a 100 years from now. we see this as an attempt to take away our independence deprive us of our sovereignty. take my case, for example. the americans have put me on some kind of
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a blacklist because i am supposedly not complying with the dayton agreement that i am the only person left in bosnia and herzegovina who still fights for the date in the course. but i guess that wasn't enough for them because they came up with the accusations of corruption, arguing that i somehow profited from that corruption. so they said they froze my assets, which is ridiculous. but i guess they are powerful and cynical enough to freeze miller rad delta x assets and bank accounts in america. in fact, they have no accounts for assets for them to freeze, which they might have already discovered in order to cooperate with them. one has to be fully compliant, some people can tough it out even though they don't understand what they're up against, but they keep moving on. well, other people, they're not even move and that is how entire nations perish. they started losing the identity and the independence of a nation state along with any responsibility. but this is
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a crude attempt at micro managing the situation. i mean, no disrespect to anyone, but america is truly powerful. and that is just the way it is. it is undoubtedly one of the world's top military powers, that is common knowledge, but at the same time the us national debt now exceeds 30 trillion dollars. and that is, i don't know exactly, but i think that's about 30 to 40 percent higher than america's g. d p, there are reasons why it's happening, as i recall, and you can look it up during obama's presidency as administration got caught up in the same problem only back then. it was just 17 trillion dollars. now it's over 32 trillion and it hasn't been that long. that says a lot about the course america is taking. and as one would expect, americans are now trying to extract resources from nations all across the world in order to offset their deficits and retain their way of life. and they're not even
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hiding it. i don't understand why they do it in bosnia and herzegovina. specifically, maybe it is to please some muslim tires around the world school claim, the one to protect, to the muslims of bosnia and herzegovina. the only true sounding thing about this situation would be to say that it doesn't make any sense. the serbs were on the victorious side in both world wars just like the americans. but you don't often hear about that today. the fact only exists in the minds of historians and it has no practical effect on america's actual policies to us. it means even more than that, it is an act of disrespect and this honesty. i think it's going to get to even mess here going forward. even now the world is a mess still, i do believe that in the next year or 2 things will stabilize and the global powers in the world will be russia, china,
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and america. i'm not sure what will become of the european union, but in any case, there has to be a balance so that the world remain stable and develops sustainably getting a new bill. uh this one is china was not in there. it did not participate in the session. rush out was zillow cuts to bundle that she did leave the session. it is very rare for a serve member of the president same and especially the chair person of the presidency to participate in the activities of the security council. it could happen at the annual session of the un general assembly, which usually takes place some time in the fall, but we've never had a situation when a serve representative is a chair person of the presidency of the same time. this was a unique opportunity for sale, contribute knowledge to hear her position. the presidency of bosnia and herzegovina is a 3 member body which collectively engages in decision making. just one member of the
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presidio, as part of the presidency. if he acts alone, he acts on behalf of his national electoral base and the people who elect him. we saw this in the past, the former president, members, is that for real of age or come say she spoke there and they conveyed their positions. so it would be only logical for sale because sure but know which to do the same. she did this in the best way possible. she gave a precise and accurate overview of the situation, which many could appreciate only due to its object to it. however, one should have no illusions, all of them passengers will sit on the security council deliver speech is written by their ministries and read them out to publicly inform every one of their position. therefore, when she was done speaking, nobody paid attention to what she said. regardless of what bosnia is and used to be, the chairman of the council is more objective in this regard. and similarly, insignificance is the session of the security council. we're schmidt spoke who
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again, had not been approved by the hi representative of bosnia and herzegovina. on that security council and he gives his opinions on bosnia and herzegovina while republic a search scott never accepted him as is hi representative. on the one hand, do you and the secretary general presents or report security council members which did as a private citizen and fails to present the report of the government of republic. a search come which as a product of the dayton accords the security council, which allegedly deals with the date and the cords, is a party to the date in the courts. it is absurd and very hard to comprehend. in the meantime, we have to stay in this absurd, almost impossible situation. the sail card shall know which is speech was absolutely clear and precise. even the muslims didn't question much of what she said except her rights to take her position. her views outside the presidio, but this is something they have down to. let's see how the acts in the future. it
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shows that bosnia and herzegovina is hopeless. why is it so difficult for them to hear it? if it gets factual, we need to understand what this is all about. it is about the future and they say, let's work for the future, excuse me, but what do you think i'm doing? i am working for the future. and how do we proceed? and within what frameworks, if they have no future, what is the future? where are we going? what direction? in bosnia and herzegovina, there is no fundamental consensus regarding how it is supposed to be considering that the way to the european union is lost. it has been a consensus for decades at most 20 years since this agenda emerged. the only idea we had was to join the european union and they have done everything they could to the value of that unique path. today, all of us who used to say good things about the european union are increasingly
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less convinced that it is possible. the european union has been blocking money for a public, a search scott, to discipline it, and to show it to its place. instead of listening to what you're saying, these threaten to block our money. ok, well, go ahead and block it. in that moment we find ourselves in a situation where they show us what a horrible system it is. and secondly, i've been doing this for a long time. already, i'm the one who thought that if you approve the construction of a highway or part of a highway, then you probably should be interested in me and our cooperation. yet at the same time you get this money back with interest. it turns out that to, in order to build a highway, we need to be grateful to the point of humiliating our own human dignity denouncing ourselves as a nation, throwing away our future wife,
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adopting some stupid alone. yeah. education system, which is going to destroy our system, which has been successful for a long time. i'm thinking about whether there are any ideas on the territory of the former yugoslavia on which there was a consensus on what was good and you get sloppy and i would say education was very good there. all of that was destroyed per requirements by the west. today we have very questionable knowledge thanks to their education system, but if you don't adopt it, then you are denied access to the i m f. the world bank, the european bank of reconstruction and development, european foundations, and so on. this is exactly what they have done to us for those the
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elizabeth again is does oregon which will screw well in the middle of something. i mean, yeah, we didn't present it to not the results between you and native bundle. would you do me a solution for sure and i'm comfortable in which way which insidiously similarly process the why isn't there any public debate on the account that the new crane? why have the leads embrace to more and show negotiations? where's the anti war movement? and more importantly, how is all of this helping you crane? and it's faithful. the
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