to hi, mommy live from ist on bowl. we will return then that del, deeper into those all important elections. the thanks more out for russia, trickier need each other that's according to the candidate who came in 3rd, in the 1st round of the presidential race. there's no the potential king maker and non exclusive interview with r t send. and we'll discuss turkish foreign policy and where it's headed, going forward. the turkish organizations for the topic of your doctoral dissertation, which you worked on russia and you wrote in russian language. you said that you see or russia and to get as 2 countries that need one another as an expert on this subject. can you single out the most important reason why other countries need one another book that isn't then this cause some, i see you rid of sections my doctorate thesis and makes me happy to see you are

still prepared and research my thesis. yes, turkey and russia are 2 countries that need each other and they share a region. for example, in the russia, ukraine, more tricky, a plays a mediator role and this is very important. turkey is applying a policy of balance. we can place russia in a similar position in syria because it's time that turkey and syria normalize. and for this, we need a mediator, a trustworthy mediator as needed. and this could be russia, if we're part of the government, this would mean someone that knows russia knows russian a person who wrote his doctorate pieces in russian which plan effective role in developing relations between both countries. trickier does not intend to comply with the sanctions imposed by a number of countries against russia, but will be forced to join the restrictive measures if they're influenced by the united nations. how do you assess, took his ability to continue. it's the tense on sanctions against russia,

both. so this, this would go on, they should this, uh, this is a sustainable foreign policy understanding. we cannot be enemies with russia or ukraine just because the west wants to have shifted, as we will not do something just because the west wants to key. it has economic concerns and these economic concerns have a cost to you. but if we decide to sanction russia with the west to compensate our economic losses even as they compensated as why should we be forced to do with the west wants and they will see on them. neither russia nor the west have the right to dictate policy to us. as such, we believe this policy is a sustainable one. if i am part of the government, i will support this policy. how to assess turkish public opinion regarding joining b, u and strengthening cooperation with the us. are there any changes because it used to be on a negative perspective against us, the dish, the fuel took in order for the need. there are no changes on the topic of turkey

and moving towards the you. there's a turkish state policy, so whether or the one wins or color start all the wins and extent on owen stands with either candidate turkey or cannot make a permanent turn away from europe as a goal. the european union is our target. but is this a realistic goal notice in the near future? no. we cannot say that we have a band in this goal either. and we won't say this, the. well, some 2000000 turkish people living abroad help already cast their ballots in the presidential run of thousands, according to president ergo, x spots living in germany or among those who waited on turkey as future puff the diaspora is the largest of trucks abroad at one of the house, according to local media, there are a slight majority, have given their support to the current theater. we spoke with people casting bullets from broad and as always, well, some like to the direction that countries going. others are looking for change. the

size of the value, of course, expect the change in the country. one of the change is also going to be in the people's minds. it is another question. i need to learn how to line. he has vision, he steals the country and the right direction. he takes into account needs, which from my point of view, the representatives of all the parties don't do rush wish come all co star and we will win. and there will be a change for the country because we need it. so earn a one has been in power for 20 years, and a change is essential for us. so these are, what can i say? i said air drawn and a k party to old. when the earlier in the week we spoke to the stuff from miss say from the sets a foundation, it's a policy think tank at based in, at turkey, but as also good regional offices, including in germany. and he emphasize the importance of the turkish community in

the country in the upcoming election, a loop there in the woods, some rules, especially you useful, a massive interest of a to fish citizen age all over the words in continental europe. the 1st 2nd generation of, of the tutors community, especially in continental you. but as i mentioned there they are from the left side into a key. they have a conservative mindset and they realize what happens during the eh, rain off during the 22 years. all the government, the of the party in june. so uh, other areas like in education has, is sector and you find sector automotive sector. and whole these rather than

areas to keep is progressing ends in the able to get the goal. this people come to become one of the 10 biggest columbia in the world, and i, we are, i'm sure that to be real. reach is target within the next 5 to 10 years. okay, moving the program on the russian military, this week, secure full control over the city of archibald, also known as black moods in the done yet for the public ortiz senior correspondent murdock goes the mileage to gain access to the wagner private military company who are at the forefront of baffled for the war to an area. he filed this report on the reference in the body of box lots lot of toma has gone down as one of the deadliest and battles in history. untold thousands of soldiers perished in the backwoods needs grind. it shows there is barely anything

left of the city, almost nothing that can be repaired. the destruction was savage in its totality. filled with remains. he's a fund and twisted mecropolis. as you travel, westwood in back with the destruction gets much, much worse than it was in the eastern long eastern edges of the safety, which of course says the ukrainian resistance here was much stiffer. there's a whole lot of vehicles. this is a spot may be supplied by britain a lot more than they feel equipment abandoned, destroyed in the western western side of the city. those even though a place to a few meters away from it. associates a survey is a p, c, b and p. a p c again, abandon. that's why you create in troops. victory in bus mode is p. m. c. vitamin

is monument, the greatest and most terrible triumph. armies of ukraine's need to train troops, legions of mass and res, and countless billions and guns and shells could not stop dragged about what search and we'll give them a motions now that it's official. now the basketball, just alice, it's all sincere, mainly joy. but there's also just quite different feelings. i'm just a human. i feel proud proud of our boys, as well as those who are gone forever. all of them were worthy to be honest, the too many emotions. so the few words and even fewer feelings would be a lie, they say, to claim the ukrainians, right? in the way, know, according to by them is fights is the enemy for like trained attack dogs. they fought for roof asleep and used retreat. they cooled,

including the 2 buttons in one of the basements along the way. for us a showed us, an armory, nato of 40 millimeter grenades. various rocket propelled grenades, tubes guided rockets, usa, department of defense, all 2 boxes from sticking me. it's also a matter of, i mean, nation s o d personnel mines which are brand across much of the world. ukraine, also a signatory of conventions binding the use and storage of items. you personnel minds yet helio, again, just as they were in my review, but obviously none of these uh, i'll, we give us a touch. we'll,

we'll be touched by the process here. because it could very well be mind. it will take years to keep back up the big up all the bodies buried and the rubber and the hundreds of thousands of unexploded shows and minds, least civilly and losses. will light loops evacuated with not every one of the children. just ask if this was a civilian looped after the elderly in the basement, when we, if it created the civilians, the green old somebody threw in a launch and hit him to go to control the way as far as he could and died here. it was slow death. an ego is always slow. death to ball forward for the entire $224.00 days. you ration the bachelor for basketball, it's his seat and he says enough for multiple lifetimes,

no phone number. when you use your brothers a non people you fall together with for more than half a year, it bring sadness. but you get used to it. you don't know when i see some of the stuff stuff in the, in my soul rooms up and i remember who i am for the human. sometimes you want to cry over the course of this bottle. there were many instances of civilians being abused. western press and networks, mike tried to present it in a certain way, but i believe all journalists will go off of the facts and showing well what really happened. foremost, all of the civilians who choose to remain with pro russian ukrainian troops and nationalists knew this. it will not kind to them the battle may be over. so it's possible to spill funds ukrainian tillery bloss away incessantly from them. you can see it from of above. the problem is guessing

that we've decided to try and launch out. dr. ukrainian electronic will. site is still active deal and not just ukrainian. i use yes, an allied systems to sort of if we things active, we've tied the drawings with nylon string bead strong. so if anything happens we can try to drag it back. the electronic boy in blackboard was and eas, new list be to but this point lagging is drones what's impervious to ukrainian and to drone counter measures. as isn't the battle may be over, but by what has died with its ukraine still denies losing the city, despise apple footage, showing bag not in control of every 6 the how do you explain the west and taxpayers the despite the 10s, if not hundreds of 1000000000 spent to have still

a loss to a private military company. the orchestra of wagner will stop here. when russia calls, they say they will play again. so for i guess the of the from boss from what the less return to our top story as tricky a heads to the poles this sunday to choose its next leader in a row of people helping, flocking to election stations to choose. and this street shoots always between incumbent president ridge bird, one on his rivals, came out. can i don't remember. let's go live now to it's done bowl, to ortiz, from a rough time on the who's been going deep into his contract book. and how on earth another great guess i believe, and murat afternoon, a big day, not well underway. of the n d d. and then as a big day, and you mentioned that people are flocking to the poles and 5,

that was really the newspapers this morning, an extra 1800. also, bosses have been put on a free trial school taishan for people to make my way to little polls and costs the votes. going to be interesting to see how things time out over the next 6 or 7 hours. this is the polls close around 5 pm to this day we will for today, we'll find out probably within an hour also where the incumbents present will get 5 add while will be still in power for the next 5 years. or if the opponent came out, because the owner will take power as a big and important data out to understand more about the bonuses i'm doing by amber, have busted on and he is the agency reports. i worked with them a copy that he's doing. he is here today for this conversation now everybody that we talked about at the beginning, the 1st round, apollo visual that came out occlusal,

to clearly to those big cities. he took the incorrect stumble, isn't there? well, if he all way around, i'm sorry. i mean, even took some parts of south east, so he didn't care, should i say, but when it comes to central and i told you it was all add on how to explain that there are 2 main factors that through gaston with regards to that question, then the 2 factors are the current economic situation in turkey, or to if you have it, it's new official name and the rising nationalistic sentiments as they do all around the world. so the problem is the big cities feel the effects of the economic pressure uh, economic situation the most, especially the housing crisis and the real estates and the price increases in real estate sector and all that. and with and with versus visual success events the central and i told him part of turkey is uh, known for its uh,

kind of traditionally nationalistic stances and the eastern and south eastern parts of circuit. and the, the reason why they watered foreclosed style is clearly the h d p support to him. so because the h d p talk through it's so far behind to publish that although he basically won the east and the south east and the land slide. because the people living in those parts of the country are very politically active and engaged. that's one reason and for the sounds, a lot of 12, in part, the exact reason that to start all of the one, the se on the east became the reason for his loss in the central. and i told him, because south carolina told them the side of turkey is mark composed of nationalistic trucks, nationalist borders. and the price is the commodity prices, and the real estate prices are not that high there. so the 1st of all,

they feel the pressure of economic situation a lot less. then they've done their peers and the big cities. and the 2nd is that they have more nation of dependencies. so those are the 2 biggest factors that add on one big and essential turkey and coast that all the one big and eastern and south eastern turkey. okay, well, have a know the last little 2 weeks or so. both part positives have been, you know, campaigning heavily. all of a lot of things have changed people's minds. i mean, that is our though, and i'm lucky to change the minds of those big cities and it's quite slow. all the electives change the central amazon in people's minds. uh, the reason why it goes federal law just changed his rhetoric over night after the initial results was that the, their campaign that their basic, the focal point of the campaign was this grand,

kind of the grand plan of peace in turkey. like they just use that rhetoric that like tutors, national, this interpretation, less than the secular and religious people, all of those would make peace with each other and come on the same banner, you know, but this plan fails for just one basic reason. it's uh, because national the slaughters have this very staunch kind of stands against h d p. uh, due to its alleged ties to the all upload. the tickets are still organizational. so clueless that all moved onto the anti refugee kind of stance. and the alliance with the restorative party leader, whom it does the who is known for his very author, li, nationalistic wheels, and his pledges to send back all the refugees. so of course they're all the basically told, nationalistic talks waters that here you see as

a nationalist because you are now in a l i. s, with whom it does, the boy is known for his extreme li, extremely nationalist move. so i'm one of you guys. okay, so that could have flight of parks in the a possible rise and close those low spot. would that be enough for him to pass the 50 plus one special? that's another question, but it is the restore a party and its waters are incredibly, you know, the like, loyal to their laser and their political stance. and so when it does not clearly called for support to close that all of his, the 2.8 percent of votes, that is a big number. you know, that would increase costello's volts. but would that be enough for him to pass the press off? uh, i really am not sure about this, but the main thing that will decide the outcome of today's the election is to turn

off rate will are gone so far. if there's be like sar, really, that's them not to go to the false a r will course that all of the supporters be solid demoralized as to not to go to the false. that's the main thing. and there, i think close to mine mean 9000000 people who didn't go to the polls in the last round. so those $9000000.00 people, even the half of them choose to now go to the falls. it will be a game changer, was a major thing. i do, we know if at the one, as in the last 2 weeks done anything in the big cities has a been trying to push for reform. does he talk about russell? does he talk about something that is gonna change by has been done? it hasn't done for the last 20 years. yeah. the that's the thing the before the 1st found that on true in the name of man much i'm shaking a former finance minister who is known for his very orthodox views on economy. so

he told people that look, i'm working with them a check now. so i'm reversing back to our hearts of ups, policies, and economy. and everything's going to be all right. it that this was before the 1st time. okay. but after the 1st round are gone. i think seeing the support, he still has gotten back to saying that he will continue to cut the interest rates . so for the economy conscious people that can cause a loss and now dollars vouch, but that dawn was only $200012.00 short the fast and the trash on. so he obviously has the upper hand here because he had like 2500000. uh it just correct me if i'm wrong, but i think that he had 2.5, a 1000000 marbles that costs are all ahead. so the obviously has the upper hand. but the, for all intents and purposes, the selection will be,

in my humble opinion, the most nail biting and my fragile action i've ever seen. but surely, i hope you stay i. so i'd like to see more of a survey. we're out of it show on time. now i'm, if i go to joining us here, no problem. all right, so as you can hear from and make sure that the agency reports are journalist, perfect to have him on board and talking to us and give us a, a more balanced view of the things to come to the next few hours. you will find out more with that, so from us now we'll be back to you at the top of the hour. know that you have very interesting points about those. are the ones supporters? will they go like this? by thinking that their mind is going to win or will the demo demoralized opponents? will they come out to try and support them? we'll see in the coming hours from rod. i'm sure murat on m ray many thanks for that. okay. before we go on a fit this story, and so i thought for it because president started around the post has underlined

the software and see and independence of africa as the continent marked national after a good day on thursday, not may. 25th each year celebrates the jewel victories over colonialism on the part time. some countries including our own, are being threatened with penalties for pursuing an independent foreign policy and for adopting the position of non alignment. we have not forgotten the terrible, brutal legacy of 1st. having our continent carved up and colonized by european countries only to find ourselves once more ponds on the chessboard during the cold war, we're not going back to that period in history. as the finding of the organization of african units, see the precursor to today's african union was also more, initially it's main name, most of, or rather k colonialism, mount a festival, celebrating the confidence sense of identity. and unity now occurs. the russian president mark the day by taking time to congratulate african leaders.

well, business broadcast journalists, winston toughie, sees that while africa has seen a rush from countries, particularly over the last decade for its resorts is brushes. involvement has come with the approach of a level playing field with international policies that help the confidence development. i'm sure they did not know that's not the main job, but let's go body such as the organization of africa, unity and the, and i think a union that obviously could you go rowing of fights against new colonialism. i know so a shape in a big kind of there must have a model of corporation across the continents and then getting members by the countries i've got to come a little bit early on. we end up last dedicated on the confidence there has been, is uncle struggle funded african resources, where we've seen a lot of continental countries coming to pick up and not just to focus on where the, the, the, how big are the terms of all the content. but just under resources,

but rush your house, been the motto wise, rush your house consistently spoken of from the depths of uh, international policies. uh that relates to board rocher over the years has been the key support of the roles. trade, the conversational level playing chrome, as we know what the rest of the us and that is something that we can say. we look up the way to boy a lab receive. we're fort, is not a gruesome, but truly eye opening, short documentary next chronicling this staggering figures involved in the black market. trade of the human body organs and ukraine. since the start of a conflict, their tanks for kidneys against the

unity and the bank of children is ombudsman and they go guns. peebles, through a public, is investigating cases of missing children associated can't live with, isn't that there is to see him just under the sort of it, is it? yes, bush, them just for pitching out, and it's really that, that's cool. instead of my thing, just give them like a normally don't put people on your grandson elementary school, but again, the g e and then the separate, but i'm really am. i am going to show as little as collateral. that is going to come 9 in school, but she has to be the one that was probably the most. we were switching districts and moving to swing by and introduce. she needs that he is not showing him a girl. and i probably am. i was not successful, i sing, but just to be getting enough, which was really, really a new website. 2022. so a repeat with children once again, being evacuated from territories controlled by kids. those heard so

political did it for you. if not thinking that a little here are you one of the you does, the goal is as cool in the beginning of the was that you will get it is a big deal in 240 and we'll go to another one that is for me to get what of course, is it going to pass code less and i get bored in good, 50 way with the voice sales that says the media was more than bring me out of the colleges. the oakland will foothill area, hundreds of old friends from the internet. speed, those are public, were evacuated in the same manner, but it's anyone's guess how to find children who of essentially being abducted from dumbass the most favorable outcome would be adoption. but there's a question mark on that diagnose and that would mean, yeah, that's what i yes. is it going on nor come through and is that pressure volume did see what's in the machine? yeah, i desire to be on the teaching it you'll see it,

but some more. yeah. or good. never did you buy, did you just want diagnose and leveling? yeah. you have a lead, so would you mind me and send me ukraine? it knows international legislative rooms and refuses to say anything about the fate of children. it is taken with almost or even, and you're the guy with sigma from the, the cheapest guy with non oregon children that are splunk. that's in the vision of pretty much and gigi store things, pests. some hava suspicions about respected organizations such as the red cross and doctors without borders. who was sent to have dealings with neo nazis and ukraine. to have been allegations against doctors without borders of human organ trafficking, in tulsa. and it's thought the representatives of the organization were present when the children were evacuated. nibble i don't mind me in the move as i did. you

already made the agent as jim out of his upset or cheer and disagree. it's really weird on the 4th day investigating a good as the num and it says, if you put out of the point you and then it'll come with the list for the nation, they have to go to the judge and the guns cannot and they're just children now also taken away from their parents under various pretext that we're looking into what i've done that show them what have to go. it's still a good so when you come i've got a new scope list of most beautiful fissile person june the food use will with the government you scan the the solution we just returned from greece put, or i thought of you to me when you call me as much cool, little push coordinate that, but i really would do you have to log it isn't with me, go to a go to them sliding that i definitely can use now put you down there. so question . so we need you to me cause always for gigi, you couldn't send it also source you. i thought you to the east pros, the valley, if we using those up

a new cleaning the house and we've been waiting over for charlotte. i'm the oldest with a good i mean yes, my believe i don't want you to. i'm not supposed to do with the case when she was. that's totally what, but also on 3 was me selling children in ukraine is anything button you e? sure. you're almost a 100 multiple in your business. use my associate of what law school list do you uh most of what i mean. so it should look familiar or should look kentoria for adults to to be such a number of nearly digital media. the investigation found the head physician of intervals, regional technical hospital log done fit dogs, so new bones, organs to the united states, telling them of those in ukraine that then children had died when your promotion campbell 2nd thought i only have table part of just one more than the cisco product you come to what i see windows.