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the booth, the police supplied crab self propelled how it says the emulation in powder charges . cookie golf indicates the booth with damaged beyond repair. k of has said for some of its best, special forces need to train the battalions indeed. sions of far less. some is the battle here has turned into a high tech war of attrition, a brutal grinding contest with the objectives to out the gun, our show. and the last 4, i guess the of the video region, the corresponding rights on the front lines. the complex. now how much do the people of ukraine actually must hurt to their western monitors. cross talk examines the evidence. next slide goes for peter in guests at l. c. defined for

the the hello and welcome across stock. were all things are considered on peter level since the start of the company? can you grade menu? western officials have set the flying part out loud, and they are subtle. ukraine is merely a small puzzle piece. part of a much more grandiose agenda. the

i discuss these issues as more i'm joined by my guess, jordan, send me early in budapest piece of pod cast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube manual goals. and here in moscow, we processed through dmitri bob beach. he is a political analyst and editor, and he knows me internet media project gentlemen, across up roads. and in fact, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. but i would start out with charging in budapest, latoya new and in a conference conference call. she was on zoom with a um, obviously ukraine friendly organization raising funds where and this all kinds of things here. and again, victoria knew and says the quiet part out loud, she set it up prior to the cool about um uh, what midwife being the cool and now she's talking about well, we've been working with you. we've been with you, you frame for 4 to 4 to 5 months for your counter offensive. so can you explain to me how you can say you're not

a co belligerent and still say you're involved with the planning of a counter offensive, which is obviously directed against russia? how do they square it? because they seem to be getting away with the george they are indeed anything real going back to midwife thing. the who in 2014 isn't exactly a consonant with the idea that this was a, a revolution a and the my done was a read you relation of the country. i mean is august rated by victoria and you will . and then she was explicit about that. um and, and in much the same way, you know, when she blotted out about the bio labs and ukraine. and again, anyone who brings up the issue biolife, conspiracy, americans bear is, is there even take a look? and she actually said this before the senate, but let's really alarming about what she said, which is that we've been involved in this for the past 4 to 5 months. is that

ukraine is increasingly daring in its attacks on russia inside russia. i mean way, the, the other day we had the ukrainian drones, apparently attacking a russian ship. 4 being the, the touch screen, a natural gas pipeline. this was a very d lab or a complicated operation. we're asked to believe that ukraine carried this out. you miles and miles away from your brains. it's very unlikely ukraine has that kind of sophisticated intelligence that can do this. and it so happened that there was an unmanned american spike playing in the vicinity. so, you know, and given also the effects on, on bells or inside russia. it's increasing, they cute in the united states is directly involved with attacks on russian targets on a russian that will be done where you've inside russia. and also we have

a ukranian attack on an airfield in russ stuff that's housed a long range of russian strategic boma. so you can give them a little that, it's hard to see how the rupture can avoid in the very near future targeting american, the, initially american hardware. i mean, whether it's spike plains, drones, satellites. but russia has to do something. i mean, we have it now from the host is miles the victoria human. well, the much, you know, she's taking ownership of this counter offensive, you would get their own words here. so i mean you have to explain the logic to me and it's a pretty grim logic. so if you brains culture offensive fails, big. no. victoria newland fails. and i don't think that they're going to have a reassessment. it's okay. i think they're going to say we're going to try it again . okay. i mean, this is the, the, the logic of the escalation letter, okay? in the b, u. s. is intimately involved in that escalation and george's,

that totally right. at one point in time, there's going to be a reaction from russia because they will say, well, you know, you are a co belligerent in this complex. you're targeting our people, our hardware, our country, you can't get off scot free. so the 1st part demon is the us taking ownership of the counter offensive. well, i don't think she will be held responsible when this is the reason i called her offense. if anything explains, she gets she will never be. but, you know, the united states is all the rage and what the rules are when i go what you can state and we know these rules very well. so it, you know, you may make it a huge mistake. it's huge technical calculation. most people want a results, this is what you did, corresponded to the rebate and i told you will be part of what you will get body for life. was lars. and well you may get what the states. i mean, the,

how many wise be here from victoria, the one that's why it's, you know, in 2014. uh, okay. you know, a rock should use a complaint in the united states dc. gorbachev in 1990 united states. uh oh, there was no pay, but if a 1014 there was a, you know, the, the representative of the process of ordering me just as a frost blowing thing. drug is fine with young ladies and with their people from that position is the uh yeah, so you're going to use the glitch. will they sign the papers saying that that accord with household next shots, you know, violence would be stalled, might've stole. and then, you know, there's, oh, you know, that you bring in a position, reach that agreement, tends to, the less didn't say work and they never recall it, at least our single so many years we've said we just lost that we find it anywhere

. it always was, there was everywhere the tax was in those. and so usually these people read the story in the same way you find 2 months of these calls are best you fades and a lot of people died and people often started when didn't you say that you have been in both of these to say the was be but was this was, you know, this, this is no history, you know, don't talk to me about the cool, don't talk to me about the cars are offensive. we're pointing another offensive. you know, so is the program with impunity is, are there one of these people? but they made the same grimes again and again, the very dangerous. that's a very dangerous i agree with you, but it is very dangerous. georgia because when we, there's a, we, you can't, there's, there's not much more room on the escalation lot, or if you know what i mean, okay. because the us is committed so much hardware,

so much money. a lot of it is on account and how did for none the less. and then we have this commitment by very high the senior ranking official of the us administration. and it's been working on the ukraine portfolio for a very long time. now. they're not going to take defeat, likely. okay, and you know, of course, you know, the landscape will be blamed and things like that, but this is much bigger than ukraine. that's the whole point of this program. george, it is big here and let's remember, the official position of the united states is that we don't tell ukraine what to do . we have no oversight on what ukraine is doing. your brain is finding it's war according to its wishes. all we're doing is providing them with the, the hardware for them to defend themselves. and then we have um, assault and bug, the nato secretary general repeat as a nato is not up all the to the conflicts. but we will know that this is complete

nonsense. and uh, and so given this so you know, you would have to see that roster cannot just simply go on sitting on his hands when it is, you know, stated explicitly by uh us government officials that they are directly involved in attacks on the, on russian territory. and on russian property, i really mean the, the leads a title, much ship guarding the south spring pipeline. this was basically, i mean the, we already had the, the attack on the north stream, natural gas pipelines. we don't know who did it so, so now it looks like they've tried to attack the, the south stream of natural gas pipeline. that's the target. they obviously hungry, joseph targeting to our kid. um, so the us and ukraine are involved in that. now, give us liberally the managers position all along has been where russia is to scan

to escalate. so we basically have a blank check in that we can put out this nonsensical story. we another party into the complex. we don't really, they take any real active involvement in anything your brain is doing, but should russia to escalate? you know, we're ready to launch levels where you, where, ready to, uh, you know, press the button. they, however, are afraid. this is a very dangerous and delusional state of mind. i'm for the west to take well deem a going back to victoria new and nothing. you know, we have a lot, a track record here. we the, the, her instrumental role in the cooling 2014 over there on the inner coverage government democratically elected by the way. she goes back to power in the current administration. she have, this is unfinished business. and her goal is the regime change in russia. that's what it's all about. ukraine is just the convenient puzzle piece for her to get

there and very effective. what, let's be fair. okay. she's not stupid. okay. she's quite maniacal. and she's not going to take, you know, the answer. no. fema as well. the problem with that is that she's unable to grab a diet. i mean, after 2014, she just ceased on being allowed to come to russia and kind of bolts. you know, there was a time was allowed was after that. yeah. most of my, the world are meant to be honest with you or the people that story, you know, there were already a concert. so rather than the visuals on them as members, businessman, who are bob from the united states, even though they didn't participate in any cause, i would say actually, you know, they, they did them in any way impair most of them. can bag us interests about she absolutely insisted that after she won't just read the whole after she acknowledge that the whole goal with the jeffrey part was genuine. you remember what you said them all

the you with them and, and how they did trying and who would be your grass next? prime minister, they ok. they were just spent decided to do, they, they didn't really need it though, because we know the internet's, these, the dear, you're bringing fast in the same way now to a just spent the sizes appropriate, bought the car. right? so correct, if you is the, you know, uh the very well no it did you or donald guys in the business? my property is my 450. right? and as far as your property is concerned, we can negotiate, right? so she has the right to come to rush it, she must have the right to change the gmc of the pool. so it states and as far as, oh right. so i can so that kind of vehicle cheat from the positional force off to russia. stop was the feet. this is directly to the problem with these people is there, there is also what do you know full dime, you know, dialogue, especially when you agree or at least some things you know,

the rest is impossible because people agree 100 percent or 90 percent of what they discuss, i will between god they, you will, they made states that russia is very difficult simply because there is no, you know, there is no foundation on which you can build something together as well as that goes back to your point that this is very, i not because having negotiations is, is a compromise, and compromise is not allowed. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with our team. the today i'm authorized at additional strong sanctions for and company is a quitting russia invisalign. thank you. this licensing vgm console. blanton things disconnected from the international payment system is optional. poppy dollar and euro exchange rates followed me nap when i tell them a lot find

a couple more folks. so got from where don't i bought the committee met 3 walcross to do it on this bill is a good can you say i don't know? sure. see, i'm with the, with the was in the russian business over come this song see yet, and i 40 to the enough see to how to change tremendously. just me don't crestwood bush and not sure product of not just you shall be able to receive the ssl renew for one year. but just keep them up and actually scroll prison by the loop or know of to the cost difficult when you, when you use meeting with dr. i'm just listen to this is for some news with the food or both of you have the most room for the use the well, the mac across stuff. you're all things are considered on peter level. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news

the well, let's go back to the george in budapest, george, one of the things you know, i've talked about with demo over these the last 15 months or so is how someone like victoria a new link to make a statement like that obviously, showing the true position of the united states and it goes by without really any comment or comment we, we comment on it because it's, we think it's a start, a betrayal of what they've been saying all along. but then we have the escalation lighter again, you know, oh no tags, no tanks, no missiles, no long range, missiles no succeeds. and then it continues and it continues here. and that's why and you know, before, um, uh, archie was taken off of youtube for months before the complex started. i kept talking about this as escalation letter, and now we're at the final runs because i,

again, the us will not accept of the answer. no. the it's objective is regime change in russia ultimately to break it up. it is excess dental. the problem for the us and the west is that they made it x the central. so russia really has no other option. it has to play this next essential game which is terrifying to think about. yeah, no, the question. and as you said, be the full the by the administration. this is unfinished business on it. this is what they had intended. c act during the obama years. i mean, they got themselves very heavily involved in my don as was shown by the that intercept, that the telephone goal and the moment they came to power pains in to, to continue as, as, and yeah, the, the goal is regime change and the destruction of rush or of new and is a, a truly

a fanatical person. you know, the family, you know what, she's a member of occasions. you know, they all the, you know, the arch, neil. and so they have family in the united states, you know, the, the, the patriarch and of donald k again. and then you have um, a husband, robert kagan and his brother federal frederick. and then you have, is this woman kimberly keegan was victoria newland, sister in law, who runs this organization institute for the study award. that the media trade a somehow at this interest, the dispassionate academic body, which always says how well ukraine is doing, how badly rupture is doing it by unable to do that it's, it's interesting, but you brought it up towards because of the same confidence that she attended them remotely, if you talked about how you frame is basically going to be the beacon of democracy for the entire world and you know, it and, and to bring it in. and again, i'm paraphrasing here, bringing peace and stability back to europe. but the problem is,

is people like newland and the organization, as we all know, as nato is the display, these are the destabilizing forces in europe. yeah. that, yeah, absolutely. and that's what they've been trying to do. and they've goes the europeans, hapless europeans. they've simply gone along with this stability. if this is completely destabilizing, you're getting your up into this uh a, in a dominant complex. and you know, you've got to say new orleans has been successful. i mean, if you think of what it is that they have achieved, they have a rule between 2 essentially brother nations, you know, kind of, you know, nations that are close to each other. we get them by religion, history, culture traditions. and they've broken up the, any kind of above the sugarland rocks in europe. so the americans offices in pretty . so why would they end the 0? they want to low, but happy to just go on living and like the songs involved, like,

you know, they things a 160000000000. i mean, it is basically just a spattering amount of money. and apparently, you know, they have, they have, they have all these negotiations, you know, with, with a budget you know, work, what's macowski because they go to do with the bikes and go to the and they're all going all good. the one thing, no one touches is the stag or the sum of money that's just, you know, being thrown out of adult to ukraine. so the americans think, i guess this is good investment will destroy in europe as a little dunham is the entity and we're destroying russia throwing good. let's just keep the of the money speaker going. it is a deal. i'm glad you talked was over. i made reference to the inability of these neo cons, the negotiate here, but that, that can be taken as a positive on russian side is because it is something i've been saying from the very, very beginning. is that negotiating with these people? is apples. aaron, the most glaring example is the meanest process. okay, well, we know that all the major western parties essentially just lied and they've

admitted it. okay. so, i mean, that's why it's a, it's a, it's a positive for us here because it knows it's past forward. it doesn't have to be there, there's, there's no contingency my way we could talk to this person or this plan, or that's all of the board here. and so the rest of it can be laser focused here. but do you think it will take the bait? because this is what i find very scary is because people like noon is george and i have discussed on the gavel repeatedly. is it me? they don't think the russians won't go up the escalation ladder and, and, and that's the, that's to their advantage. they can break every single red line they want and you know what, they have quite a few across quite a few here. so you know, the, the, the in the, in a positive way rush, it has to move forward with its agenda here in a negative way. you don't you, you basically dealing with what we've been mixing called the crazy man scenario the americans couldn't do anything. fema, uh you know, quite dry that uh,

it's kind of misunderstanding. but let's be clear how each of the sites we started just doing the, you know, the reference for, for me it's, what's the operating just, you know, don't want to destroy the last few do because it's good for that right now. it's going to have a painful if we brush up will nothing because, you know, when with aggressive so they don't want to be to talk to me because it's a gauge. they're all interested in who can make a little want english. and it was a mistake because the, the, you're and uh, they might stace, the ease on out. i don't get logical informations which don't care about sometimes you know, they don't care about practical use or what they do when they don't care about the money. they can lose their much if that is needed. well, i guess rented kima and just going yeah, yeah. so if that sounds a rush, it was the narrative because we thought that you know, uh, 2000 years old sprint, magic western civilization. no. these 2002 years are all sounds good. yeah. now,

the west, on the other hand, you know, guided by the side to do the was review. the trash is ruled by probably going to be, or the box will of course, a very slide you should go and review which will not sustain the sanctions. you know, this is all wrapped in strapped to graduate and this is not how if we had been so bad, you know, last week when we were most have sustained with sanctions for more than a year. so this is the most dreadful thing about it. uh, people are guided by a oh, i do it with jeep and borrow the fish to it so that i told you is the price that we bought the year rest of the don't use sound kind of destructive weapons because after all, the brain was part of the country and the sensible people in to put in does not want to die and all that. so basically, i think that the we are in a very dangerous spiral. you know, where, because of all the old you,

people are getting closer and closer to a very dangerous break. and in that sense, i would like to say that the west keeps talking about personal dictates, you know, the demonized people whom they be glad to day just told you and the people don't how to dictate to be close to losing any lecture. see, i say good evening just yet. uh well, a dictatorship or like, oh jeez, is much worse. the person dictates because you have to dictate to a funeral. she can feel the course you can always get. i told you nose, no, peachy and its nose. no. uh scare, you know, for an ideology because this is not human human be, what matters is it's fixed or, you know, anyone who disagrees. e as in mary, is the machine. you know, he or she has to be just model. that's what we're facing from the best buy it

george again, you know, going back to these public now saying the wide part out loud. it it's, it's, it's so tragic they, um, corporate main stream media doesn't pick up on these things at all. i mean, it's only, is it, it's a, it's only independent media that actually talks about these pronouncements. okay. so anti war dot com, i picked it up or something like that here. but again, how democratic is this? there is no debate whatsoever about this policy. and this is, you know, the, you know, it's awful, it's terrible for people that lost their, their, their sons there. the same thing about, um your rac afghanistan. that's fine. okay. but it was never next essential for the us in the west. and now we have this situation where it is excess dental, and there's no debate about it in all. it is truly extraordinary. it really is, i can't really explain it well, you know how gum that's of it doesn't seem to be any uh,

awareness on the bottom of the why the public anywhere in europe in the united states of just how dangerous the situation is. i mean, remember, you know, the cuban missile crisis was so terrifying, you know, it goes around the world that, you know, it's essentially, you know, you're a to, you know, a decade, you know, beckett in the hall over at the top. all is that because simply because, you know, the consensus view was united states and the soviet union cannot get themselves again into such a terrifying confrontation. but there was none. and i think it's comes about because the, the leads have been putting out the story that russia is too scared to take a song so we can do whatever we want. 5 you know, where you, you know, we and we can blow up that pipelines. we can attack them on their own soil. you know, we can even attack the kremlin, but russia is too scared of us. and uh, you know, we have when list trusts and says, yeah,

i'm ready to press the button. so we're ready to press the button. russian knows we're ready to press the button rush or how it was not ready to press the button. and we know russia is isn't ready to press the button. so what's that to worry about? let's just keep going and you know, the position. now the theme is that about this, the all legit. remember, the wesley position now is not just what we're going to defeat russia militarily, but we want to arrest fulton and take him to the hey gama. that's good. that's now that would be the official wisdom position that's, that's not going to be a banner. so there's never even, not to be any withdrawal of sanctions because of the rest of the week. we need both to give us both and, you know, just like, you know, the, the sub's back in the ninety's give us my lots of, it's one of the live central's ability to give us mostly so that style the wisdom position, give us food. and so it's, it's, you know, this extraordinary extra mean possession and yet the public just emphasize, oh, that's fine. let's keep going. yeah. well, the take away take from, uh,

let me both of you said here is it, it's impossible to argue with stupid. okay? and that's the level that we have all found ourselves in there. they're not open to any kind of conversation or negotiation. and that's why it, when you, when that's closed down, we go up to be in this. and that's where we are gentlemen. and that's all the time we have. we want to thank my guess in budapest and here in moscow. and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our t. c. and exam. remember, prospect was the

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