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russian territory and the assassination of journalists by the key, every shame the white house denies any part in the actions of its proxy. a proxy of arms phones and directs against russia. not to mention that senator graham is not just happy to see russians dying. he's also happy that ukrainians are willing to fight to the last month. i like the structural path. we're on here. as long as the way up ukraine with the weapons, they need an economic support. they will fight to the last person. it seems that the longer this conflict goes on, the lower the model bar drops in the us, whether it's openly calling for the assassination of a president or greeting celebrations of the killing of russians. there's always one element that's conveniently ignored, and that's the mass of told this conflict is having on ukraine and ukrainians. that's the grim reality of the wes perfect proxy war. on his lindsey graham says, the best money they've ever spent. wrapping up this house,
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pro cost just been out here in auction international from all of us here and then using thank you for sharing your time with us. here in moscow, we are back soon with the the hello, i'm the noah chan. you are tuned into modus operandi. this week we'll examine africa and the continents quite for energy independence, a land that is so rich and resources has been kept economically stunted by many players in the west seeking to exploit those fossil fuels for themselves. as a modern africa seeks to use its own resources for its own people, find out who is getting in their way next. all right, let's get into the m o. the
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. it's no secret that the united kingdom, the french and the dodge, have all, at one point been colonial powers across the african continent. and while these places have given up their imperial claims, a new type of colonialism has emerged. it's called energy colonialism. and developing nations called this out at the cop 27 climate summit in egypt. listen, we have placed our trust in western experts who have pushed for solutions and urge us to compromise for the good of the process. it's hard to conclude that this strategy has been anything but a failure. the decision makers, those in real power, simply do not care. now the issue is this. wealthy western nations want africa to quit their fossil fuel ambitions. ignore that. some african nations are sitting on a wealth of natural gas, a band, and a reliable source of energy. the continent needs, which would provide
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a new sense of independence for the entire block. and instead, turn to green energy for more on this, we will bring in mr. n. j, i you, he's the executive chairman of the african energy chamber based in johannesburg, south africa, thank you for being with us and j. thank you so much for having me. africa is rich and natural resources. the whole world knows this fact. yet the continent remains what they say is energy starved or in perpetual energy poverty. can you please explain for us what energy poverty means and why the content is a patchwork of access to electricity. and it's your poverty is a big problem in our confidence. and then as you parted comes from the 600000000 people in africa that did not have access to electricity. 900000000 do not have
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access to clean cooking. and even those that have some kind of electricity use, you'll see a lot of problems. for example, in johanna is x out of africa. we am right now, we're still seeing issues around lo checking on some of the big cities, you're still sending adequate energy access. that is a big problem. we somebody, that's fine, we call it energy poverty. why we are resource reach. we assume the energy pool and that is on our for can problem. and that exist in induced compliment today. cop 27 in egypt concluded, and it was my estimation that many western leaders have effectively called on african states to abandon use of their own natural fossil fuels. please correct me if i'm wrong there, but given the inconsistency of access to power on the continent, is this a realistic demand from these western powers? a no, that's not a realistic demand. and i think after gushing, not had that car to a band and it's natural resources available for the will of been a loans. and i'm
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a big support from europe. that would never come. i think we are the mom in the, in the history way. only aust, i'm going to be able to lift ourself out of pop image of poverty. i'm really industrialize, we think image of poverty and climate change are to size, but the same coined need is a little bit give the car 24 every. the advocates sort of the stand that western countries that have to use oil and natural gas and coal to be able to power the economies develop. i'm build big city is have massive, massive solver and water funds on now do 9. i forget the same opportunity in the name of climate change africa's greenhouse gas emissions are very low. african countries will not be a band ended by banding, the natural resources. and if they want to put them in 8, let's not forget room and eat as
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a promising to pass by in cop. i'm seems to had these and climate mitigation funds of one of $100000000000.00 for 13 years was phones never came. it is $1.00, and does have not been paid, but even with those funds, it's still not going to get us into development. so there is no way on earth african kendra who, countries we have banner and getting natural resources on gas, especially when even these same develop nations have gone back to using natural gas upon the economies. during this winter, i recently heard the term energy colonialism. how do you interpret that? does that term resonate with you to it does resonate some of the, some of the rhetoric that we've seen during this entire climate. an energy debate has been very clear on the nature. it has been that somebody from a wealthy country would dictate to poor countries in africa,
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that kind of images solstice. you use that kind of entity choices to use. and also there is also being threats and have been lectures have been missing information and sometimes personal attacks. and then there is that sense of like, it was not even letting africans make the island choice. we thing we smart enough, we educated now we've come along very well. some of us have been lucky to get ready to taishan from african universities. your opinion versus russian university's chinese university is that we kind of really be able to make out one choice and choose what is good, what is good for ourselves. the rhetoric that we've seen come from very wealthy countries have been something, god spinning shim fully on this, on this honestly call on, you know, i need something that we regret most because we never fail it after the fights of civil rights, human rights, independence generation of africans would have to leave. i'm have to deal with this
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kind of rhetoric on would have to still experiences. it is something that is very disappointing, that in 2022 of 202023 young africans how to still deal with this legacy. and it looks like is it is, it's range. i'll be heading back again. it was speaking of colonialism. a manual, my kron seems to be making a pitch to francis former colonies to strength and ties. do you suspect his efforts are rooted in gaining access to the francophone era regions? natural resources including but not limited to natural gas? i absolutely have seen friends has been a very, very t important pad in africa, in the environment in africa. they have this strong sense of what the car friends of freight and he does play the big role. ready in how you develop some of these countries. i think there is a new generation around africa,
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especially young people that are basically questioning those ties because some of those ties have resulted in them not being, having opportunities at home. and only what changes have lie out for them is them crossing tremendous uranium to go right back to france and all that within countries to look for opportunity. they want to change the i do want to do a reverse immigration, so let's build it within africa. so anything that comes with a strong approach on keeping for my call not ties, that is going to be based on grabbing african resources what ideas credit come right out from interest cobalt lead to plot the only uranium and different things that we could use to pi economies and drive the supply chain. it's something that we knew we was guided games, but we're not going to get involved and resource nationalism. but there must be a respectful relationship between africans and france, especially if it's for my friends calling is that is what i hear every day people
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as i travel around africa, i'm most african officials i'm. it's important that that means that she's saying that differential governments respect to all right, n j i is staying with us, coming up next as the world bank and european investment bank divest from africa, russia and china are moving in. we'll discuss it when we return. sit tight, the m o will be right back a . the russian states never. i've side as i'm one of the most sense community best. most i'll send, send up the in the 6595 and
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speed, the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the rush to day and split the ortiz full neck team and our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say from stephen twist, which is the hi. i'm rick sanchez. and i'm here playing with you. whatever you do, do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead,
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change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way. instead, the start of the cars like the new, great many western officials of steps of buying a mark out loud or subtle ukraine is merely the small puzzle piece of a much more grandiose agenda. the welcome back to the m. o i manila chance. so as well as the western institutions attempt to push africa towards green energy, africans are pushing back and j i you. thank you for sticking with us. so the
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entire sub saharan region produced is just about point 55 percent. that's less than a full percent of the world's carbon emissions. yet both in european investment bank and world bank have chosen to div fun developments in africa in favor of what they say combat and climate change. why and how do you view this move by them? and that is a great injustice that you can do to africa. and that's the most important to realize that their cost of funding it gains coming in to african force or fuels. it's usually natural gas projects. when we needed the most, you'll get a natural gas by products uria, ammonia, and p k for july to plans that can drive traffic of bush jobs to generate opportunities. africans have been shut out, africans have been cut out, and this is really hurting africa. the most that is hurting, and western countries take, for example, that he bought pressing these on how the,
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how, how we've been approached by ideas year of declared the gas is green. and so the, the big now you've gas is green for europe. why is it not greenville africa, the getting funding from the same your opinion, investment banks with the same with the financial institutions when he comes to europe. but when he comes to the poor people of the world, leaving in africa, gas is bad for, for them. but at the same time, the turn around to see the limits of gas available for africans to be able to get out of the energy poverty and drive up the economies and create jobs and create of what charities and leave people up and give them a whole year up your pin countries a asking to of take on chip, just gas into your opinion, commies. to that dick and happy bit i pointed to of live when the out one financial institution refuse and a band cut them funding coming into africa. that is the great that is a grid of injustice produced, consummate show, can need way from financing when he comes to his natural gas. when he comes to
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sports or feels such sought after guys in the dark, some of the great cold and cord is being exported to germany in order your pin countries wise for africa cannot have a great code to really drive up south africa and empower south africa so you've seen 678 hours a day with people in the drop that is africa's most industrialized nation. that is very, very tough. and i think every, the africans are very connected, african and business is very connected to the idea of looking at these and did not in your head in disagreement with what is happening in that. if not, can we? that is on just, i mean, it's a change right now. conversely, russia appears to be expressing interest in working with african states. our project being considered is a massive nap gas pipeline from nigeria to morocco, which runs approximately 5600 kilometers. now this next question is 2 parts. first,
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what would such an ambitious project such as this mean to the continent? and 2nd, if this project came to fruition, would there be any fears that the west might sabotaged it? similar to what happened with the north stream pipelines which so far, evidence seems to point to the us and u. k. having worked covertly to destroy we don't believe that any parties would sub latasha, but we don't take that off the table. but here's what we believe that pipeline is sole credit card is so important for each we've been out on. we've seen russian companies, which are some of the best when it comes to building pipelines, getting involved part of the conversation in the past about 10 years ago. gas brown was heavily involved in discussions with nigeria and new share on morocco in moving data in moving that project for to get to dodge area. and i'm very happy that those discussions are on going to be able to build a pipeline to evacuate. a lot of gas resources on stranded gas, that is,
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that is needed in the world market because every day people need it. one of the key things we have to, we have learned on the stories that we calendar often mistakes around and not sure and pipeline and do everything that is just to be built. but also we have to look at some quick issues that are going to keep this pipeline gift card that is data access to capital access to funding. i'm getting you done fast on we in getting that project moving again. this is time for us to get that done and we cannot wait to get that done. i think most africans are really, really excited about these because it will be a good way to interrupt quick gas and be able to get that far at the same times. it's going to be domestic gas obligations that a lot of african who'd be able to benefit. you know, you had been quoted in the press as having some skepticism over on kept promises by the us and other western states. can you elaborate on what those uncapped promises were? we've been promised a lot in the past when we,
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we climate funds that nearby came, klein mitigation funds. the problem is $100000000000.00 africans. and it came with a balance check that check bound. wouldn't see any of that been well over the idea done. we're going to get out a lot of these quack maya by expecting funds coming in as a it has not helped us $800000000000.00 has in spain on a programs across africa. and we still, we still need to be compensation, so you've got to have to look at how you deal with those markets that african me don't try just the bill just by themselves. then also have banding non natural resources in the hands of these, of the, of these, of you. so 8. the problem also is that it never comes, they have been a lot of promises made by a lot of, by love to west a wealthy countries. 8 to. ready to after the african continent, those promises how, how have come up shot. and this is no time for us to abandon our resources in the
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name of mark pharmacy is that i am personally very skeptical that deal with comply . we the promises that you have made. the 1st thing is our, what about the warranty made in the past and didn't comply with? how are we going to really deal with that right now? i think many people around africa would write up for fare with driver by energy future would create all markets. we build pipelines to connect africa, use the to get going to the free trade free trade act. we cut with shut down carries, opening it up for us to get natural gas. and for us, we didn't look at nuclear energy for it with nice side water. we've been discussing with many countries, including russia and china, to see i knew some where some cartridges look at s m r levels develop that rather than wait for a that would not come on premises to save africa that never happened. china has also been doing a lot of development work in africa, a number of multi 1000000000 dollar projects and deals have been struck by the
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chinese. any thoughts on how this will impact the economy of africa and the future relations with china? i think china continues to be a very strong partner of african countries, confused to be a very strong partner of icon. nothing. or i know, you know, i'm someone who went to school in united states everything. i know it's about america on europe, but we have to meet $260000000000.00 investment from china, just the ceo and compact to maybe $40.00 to $50000000000.00 from auto, with some countries. that is a huge gap. and i think a chinese that with a student that you can walk with africans and really get conditions to me. it has everything always is perfect now, but it can, we continue working on these relationships years. and i to, we then now recognize that if we walk together, if we look at really finding key infrastructure on energy projects that walk their research chance to build it. but some of these are the same time. we also want to
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ensure that these benefits africa strongly on bickley and part of that is looking at how to rekindle this relationship to tell the chinese that a lot of the supply chain has to be done in africa. so we create african jobs. so africa cannot just be a consumer, but also producer using tied these chinese technology to drive that. so give you example and to cling. and it decided chinese on looking at buildings massive electron. eliza has to produce hydrogen across economy and green hydrogen, blue, hydrogen. but do you want to start seeing how because we started out within the company and, and drive the renewable supply chain with new content. that's something that i work on. and i think it will go a long way to define the intelligible experience in the hearts of many africans. because we see ourselves as part of our group. we are walking hand in hand short of to show that we think and if not partners, that is very important. if african states are able to access and harness their own
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energy resources, hydrocarbon, and others, what was the continent look like in 203050 years from now. number one would be energy, poverty, 600000000 people without a tricity we'd be yeah, that is what that should be a lot cooler by 2050. we don't have much time. no, but tool. we become part of the climate solution because producing natural gas, if we produce or the natural gas boy in africa, climate and our greenhouse gas emissions will go up just by point 65 percent. that is a very tiny beat. number 3, the thing that we have to look is that we bring home to so many young girls that don't have any hold on. we drive what industrialization west to, nations need to do a couple nice on the meet you did have a nice today optic. i'm new african nations new to dr. lice. i'm industrialized quickly, but we copland this integration problem that
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a young applicants have to only dream to go. i brock a year on mary called by to find that out. greener pastures and been opportunities . begin africa with 2500000000 people by 2050. we started driving an african feature set performing the real change. i started becoming a contribution for the wall solution rather than the problem. but most importantly, africa becomes a strong and a core partner on the global stage that stand shoulder to shoulder with every kind of intent, if not partners, and get their respect on the dignity that is yeah, they deserve. that would be amazing because we have an africa that's, that's good. and that's beautiful. lots of people that believe in it. now as a follow up to that and j by in dust realizing having access to electricity. how does this impact poverty on the content that we don't have access to electricity, we are nothing. that's why you look at poverty, gro continues,
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but party numbers continue to grow. we trying to transition from burning wood into natural gas. that is really nafrica, that is real. they don't have to be issues there without energy, we can have industries, we can have jobs, we can go on vacations, we can see what else can can, can readings cool on a lot of issues around content. what do we do with transportation? all would you be technology cod devices? you cannot use that, but it was a little closer look at a heavy indoor for light steel. i'm not sure me and my other metals on even power in an industry like the mining industry that can play the big road in energy transfer. these only accounts for batteries, storage, and on all of that with a massive reserves in co park and lead to human flats. do you mind or i critical, right? i mean there are 2 came, you came power that we are the electricity. so this is not just about us trying to get reach by saying we need to produce natural gas. it's also by always being part
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of that solution. then people have to recognize that if africa plates rule, it needs energy. we need to drive up natural gas because we need that right now. but at the same time we embrace renewables. we've never been to people that do not want to see sol. um we, we've been embrace that, but we also recognize it and tell me 10 nature of it. and we have seen that image of poverty every day in south africa are right now on the dot before, i mean use, look it up for that reason. the ceo of s. com. i'm actually not public company just resigned because of using our ability to provide power to south africans was seen 67 hours a day in the dock. now last if and when africa is able to maintain consistent energy and, and power to the population. how does this change geo politics going forward? will it be consistent with the estimation that the 21st century will become a multi polar world? absolutely, it becomes africa becomes
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a nix trying to our for our cubby comes in next. india, it becomes a heavy weight on a could be put a balance in power, and that would bring war p if it was bring it quantity, go back, died. ok, we'll bring a quantity in global discussion. we would be able to walk with each of that with that me try respect instead of dick's is system that we are being bullied or sometimes being lecture on being seen as 2nd class. will become press class nations for us class competing for us class people that are being respected and we start driving out one feature on a ticking part of daddy now and hands. that is what walks when we do with that. and i think the struggle for the student region for africans is to get there and we are very close. but we need to order firm, we need to drive up energy. we need to actually just energy translation so that we can get the uh, we can make our full fathers an onset, those proud that the children never get with defied. of the strong,
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independent african continent n j i a thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. all right, that's going to do it for this weeks episode of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy. i'm your host manila. chad. thank you for tuning and we'll see you again next week to figure out the m. o. the the at the end of the 18th century britain began the illegal opium trade in china. this
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hard drug causing addiction and literally destroying the human body became a gold mine, or businessman from the foggy l. b. on. however, the ruling chinese dream dynasty tried to resist and to stop the illegal trade, which provoked the wrath of the london business community. in 1840 without a declaration of war, the english fleet began to seize and plunder chinese coastal boards, barley, arm dead for lead drain, chinese army was unable to provide adequate resistance. the jing empire was forced to hand hong, gone over to england, and open it sports for trading the lethal good. in 1856 branch of the united states joined in the robbery of china. the anglo french troops defeated the chinese occupied basie and committed an unprecedented robbery. destroyed and blundered the
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wealth of the un menu one palace. the defeat of the jing dynastee and the dew opium wars fled to the transformation of the celestial empire into a semi colony of european states and started the age of humiliation. and the sale of opium took on collazo proportions and led to the horrible depths of millions of ordinary chinese the l. look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show alignment as a patient. we should be very careful about visual intelligence. at the point, obviously is to create a trust rather than fit the various jobs. i mean, with the artificial intelligence, we have so many the of the
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