they've taken out a number of the fields in western ukraine, the s 400. they just arrived in bella roofs as well. now, let me ask you this, if i can mazda, invite them and putting this claim me that ukraine is trying with a drone attack on moscow today, ukraine has tried to provoke a response from most go to g, g. think that's accurate to do, would you agree with that statement? i have to say i, i am inclined to agree with. i think that is a good harvey and erroneous policy for so that's good to take, but he's becoming more and more desperate. and he believes, i think wrongly, that if you could provoke boots in to actually up the stakes and take it to a different level, then that was great. and i mentioned my name but just from, from nathan, west and governments to do the site. and that's why he thinks that he's on the safe ground. and i got tells you a lot about the situation about what the weather was going for him. clearly not very well, because if escalation, so you've got is that's the only ace you can pull out of the the sleeve then. um i

think that it will be very worried about about the future. and a martin j, the editor of, i'm not going to i b dot org. it's always so good to have you on the program. always appreciate your commentary and your insight. i hope to see you again soon. thank you. your kind and present environment. zalinski is being investigated for treason and offer a court in key have reportedly ordered a pre trial pro, but that's all according to a member of the ukrainian parliament. so let me remind you that the ukraine state bureau of investigation refused to investigate zalinski trees. and when he had pointed f i, c, h is the key position, and the crate in secret service is about as we've ordered by the court to enter information into the registry and start a pre trial the investigation. they must reveal who paid them and how much for these appointments because it was these appointments that lead to the death of tens of thousands of ukrainians. i will not allow these traders to escape responsibility the grave crimes against the cranium. people apparently a vacuum of the landscape,

not the only one similar investigations reportedly launched against his closest political allies, such as his chief of staff. just last year that has to be himself launched his own political clean up campaign by firing the countries prosecute a general and the head of the secret service of the summit. a high number of cases of suspected treason by law enforcement official. yet the former british different, i don't know if i really am balance and he joined us earlier in the program. he believes that potential charges against president zelinski showed as a feeling of possible paranoia in key. the oldest thing of all these of letters has said it was rather an emotional outburst. i'll have to say. but he has said that to the cause of lansky thousands of lives. so be lost. why? unless he means that somebody lensky should have made peace, which would have been, it would be less lives lost. he's definitely seen also freedom provided for democracy. he's a, he managed to get

a lower degree and never practice little. and he, he's a comic, a clever comic on the british american control. and he's, he's of devices. we will be influenced by those people. unless that's one or 2, a highly intelligent agents, obviously who was still hidden, who may be working for most of them. it's mind if we actually meet this reaction, this. it's a visa and i will be fascinated to see if these does come out and, and see if they do go ahead. and if it's important to you when you need to meet any wisdom need to, there's a feeling of power on the way of going around by seeing the venezuelan president nicholas, my daughter has arrived in brazil, the head of a summit of latin american countries. both nations of cold out the adverse effects of us sanctions, my latin american region. and this is the 1st visit by venezuelans, lead us to brazil in 8 years, the president of brazil said that he was harshly critical of the sanctions imposed

on that as well by the united states. i spoke out against them and the devastating role they've had on the venezuelan people in their population. he also emphasized that this seems to be a blow to the strategy. the united states has been having with venezuela usa is doing everything you can to isolate them. his way low to prevent then his way low from having relations with different countries that we've seen. the various qu, attempts that have been revealed. we recall that for quite some time the usa was recognizing one way though, this individual is somehow being the legitimate president of them as well. but now the leader of brazil is at this point, embracing the duro and making clear that he feels the fact that it's been so long since the girl visited brazil to that was actually a mistake and the same pretty for you mercy to ship the veneers, we've got a has always been an exceptional part in the for brazil because of political contingencies. mistakes versus missouri has not been in brazil for 8 years. and

brazil has been without venezuela for a long time. while the venezuelan leader expressed his openness and optimism for venezuela to move in to the emerging bricks alliance, that is talking about a new currency here name. i don't think we need to build a new geo political order with fundamental components. one of them is the union of south america was our diverse cities and together with the brakes group we have seen in the geo political sphere, an element where we can advance in the union of these 5 very powerful countries. lula desilva, the president of brazil describe the world moving away from the us dollar and the possibility of emerging economies shifting the way they orient in global trade. here's what was said by the brazilian president. i also, and you guys, you my dream. well, that's we have a company covered and see, so that you, all the countries can do business without being dependent on the us dollars. in

response to the increasing turbulence of the western financial system, a number of countries are looking into the bricks as an alternative. there's talk of japan joining the bricks. there's talk of saudi arabia joining, the brakes we understand negotiations are currently taking place for saudi arabia to enter the risk alliance. and it seems that because the united states has continued to utilize its position of this, the center of the global economy to isolate certain countries and target certain countries that wants to do is uh, bidding long follow orders. many countries around the world are looking into alternatives, and the way the western financial system continues to be unstable and the unpredictable turns are only intensifying many countries looking elsewhere to strengthen their economic ties. beijing's defense ministry has given the pentagon, the cold shoulder, ultimately rejecting the requests to hold

a private meeting on the sidelines when upcoming security form and singapore as ever. now here's a statement given by the us defense department to the wall street journal overnight . the p. r. c informed us that they have declined. our early may invitation for secretary austin to meet with p r. c. administer of national defense, leasing food and singapore. this week, the department believe strongly in the importance of maintaining open lines of military to military communication between washington and beaching, to assure the competition does not fear into conflict. but just a little background on measuring the decision of the bias and administration last week of health sanctions on the chinese defense minister himself donald trump, had initially put those in place for the officials role in china, purchasing russian miss 1005 it just back in 2018. the other objection comes at a time when us little bank is have published a controversial list of actions to be taken to prepare,

tie one for so called peace by arming the territory to the c a. u. s. congressional committee was put forward 10 recommendations aimed to quote, cause of peace and stability in the taiwan strait. number one is the manufacturing and supplying of more long range missiles to the in the pacific region is comments as americans thing i miss howls arrives in taiwan earlier this week as part of an aide package published by washington. and the chinese foreign ministry spokesman mile newton condemned to move us quite extremely wrong and dangerous. make was showing the us provision of weapons to taiwan gravely violates the free china us joint communiques, especially the august 17 communicate it interferes in china is internal affairs harms. china's sovereignty and security interests and undermines peace and stability across the street. this is extremely wrong and dangerous, trying to strongly deplores and firmly rejects this and has made serious they march

as to the us. we went to here with the senior fellow with the ty, hey, institute, the think tank, i not a ton gun who actually agrees with the spokes bucklin saying ultimately the end of the day, washington is inside playing a dangerous game. this is a political posturing um, but the binding administration knew that they needed to remove that sanction that the sanction was actually meaningless. there was no reason to do that other than they did not want the meeting to occur. so it, it's clearly pastoring this trying to be put this case for the us is somehow being reasonable and then it's china being unreasonable when it's the exact reverse. this is a common play by the us currently to choose others of what they're doing themselves . you know, this, it is juncture, you know, there's not much trying that can do if they don't feel that there's any point to these meetings or that the u. s. as in being sincere that, but that is a problem. you have to nuclear nations at loggerheads and you know,

this is adding to the uncertainty in the world. so at this juncture, i wish the white house was going for with some effort, instead of trying to cause more uncertainty to create more trust. you know, there's this effort to use proxies and obviously enticing a more or basing knowing that going into ukraine would cause russia to react. they noticed that same thing with taiwan. if they go into taiwan. obviously, china will react. so this is the real danger. how far do they want to go? the china is hale, be your wife, one of the us tech entrepreneur e, long musk to the country, saying it shows the beijing is open to the world of oscar. but china is for administer, and it's set to visit his test, laptop, and shanghai of which he has a numerous expansion plans. it is the twitter owners 1st visit of china and 3 years . it does come monday to increase tensions between washington and beijing. and the

political analysts are conduct true for you, is that a confrontational approach from america could, at the end of the day come at a very high price, not just for the region, but for the whole world in the us leadership washington right now. what did the, i think you just bought a sort of the geopolitical competition of employ. work is really containment policy against china, the per, per se, it's a very clear that he threw slowed off these ties, economic development, the technological development, the slow down, the role of china. so just so they come into the group won't be that much of the so basically the i've seen this relationship or as a 0 south east that the campus and that increase a lot of problems economically days. it's way more taxable. and you can look at the types of each one of us over of examples stop trying to see all kind of why they are constantly sending palms to, to. and when they talked about a piece is always about to send more weapons. you as kind of make it respected. uh,

probably the intimacy, amazing conflict. oh you mean oh, the asia. so that's the heavy advice the world has to pay. we cannot stop. the longer the boss is the particular to achieve their goal. pushing the rise of the multi podium world. russia's top diplomat is in but running the on the 2nd stop with his latest effort into a still get off or off. harold of the countries attempts to break from a motorcycle thing and we appreciate the principles policy of the presidents of the room d, which was reaffirmed today to exploit that countries natural resources in a way that puts the interest of its own people. first of, or rather than those of the states that's prefer to continue colonial practices in the current context to contribute to the attempts of the west to maintain it's a gemini and even strength. and in some of them, we see how there's an objective developing processing of warming and multiple award

order in which the african continent mistake is where the independence place along the. so again, i put off also note of the african continent needs russian fertilizes and added that the most good was ready to donate tons of the product illegally seized by e u. countries on held in a new ports, the foreign minister claim the block, the initiative in the 1st deliveries to africa took 6 long months, left off or began his latest african ser, on monday in kenya. right? once again, pulled up the benefits of a multi polar world. the representations of the conflict in ukraine of all surveyed africa, hard so no surprise. the issue also dominated the meat pushing the thing about them . good. really? we talked about this in great detail today. there is no doubt that the key of regime has long since switched to ultimately to risk methods. to do this, they use weapons that the west is pumping into the key of regime the west statement that the weapon supplied should not be used on the territory of the russian

federation is another light. the conclusion is very simple. since the west insist that there is no other basis for resolving the ukrainian situation except for the new tory is the landscapes formula piece, as well as the landscape steam threatens to be seach, brian media and the eastern regents of ukraine as they booted to start killing russians and destroying everything russian. this means that the west directly supports genocide. well it is uh, started off at off site, 3rd diplomatic trip to the african continent in just the past 12 months. and the who is the volunteer, as well as a pod hoops on a boy who is following the minister with these details. a full size describe this visit as historically, because this is the 1st trip by either soviet or russian for administered to put onto since the establishment of a diplomatic ties between the 2 countries. in 1962 you now uh, barone. the uh for some time was on the west end sections following the 2015

presidential elections, which were uh, contested uh by the west. uh those sanctions were lifted off to the death of the previous president. but interestingly enough, even under his successor, this country continued to pretty independent and silver and foreign policy. supporting many of rushes, the resolutions of the united nations, including the resolution against the glorification of new fascism and nap, susan, and to the foreign minister of board on the bench. and you to explain why he said that he's country has its own criteria, independent criteria for choosing international partners. and the brewing inside emphasize that it has a long had a very productive relationship with russia. it uh once uh and appreciates a rushes of roll on the african continent. and it also understands the underlying reasons for the ukrainian conflict and does not want to support either of the sites

. in fact, the, the administer, the foreign minister varone decide that we like many other african countries want to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. and that's why we're choosing neutrality now. so deliberate off on i think the boned inside for such a new on st. approached here also so sad that the 2 sides reached agreement on the visit of the room didn't president to russia. uh for the 2nd african summit that the most guys going to hold in july, the c here that's i bring you some news, i just reaching us right here at out to the international. it's actually coming out to southern russia. we understand totally. so 26 people have been injured off to a grand stand collapsed. the incident happened during a rowing event along a canal in the little stuff region of people that have finally been sheltering from

rain in the grandstand when the structure collapsed. longer has injured 15 kids who have been taking the treatment, we understand emergency, what is it still said to be at that scene. so in another sign of the emotions of a multi poet, a world cut news president is seeking to establish a pine african payment system to help ditch the us dollar from global commerce. we're all struggling to make payments for goods and services from one country to another. because of differences in currencies, and in the middle of all of these, we are all subjected to a dollar environment kind of as president, as those as african count deposit to mobilize central and commercial banks to join the system. launched last january, the so called kind african payments and settlement system ethers intra african trade and was backed by the african union and central banks associate professor of the university of south africa believes that one currency for all of africa is not an impossible task. the, the,

the idea behind the additional coverage, or do you have any current status on that, on the policy. so i want to evaluate the phone carrier in by the partridge united surgical who's that also can take care of these as well. have income as a quantity and the guy just to find one from 153, w dot. gov probably be used by the same but i've been sick just in the past. i remember them i've, yeah, they are the reasons why honestly the good news, phone housing or that, you know, as far as the, the, the issue is concept at all. i'm easy to oppose the magazine that united states of america. and then you don't want to exchange you tag on the pricing, all folding out from what it is as is very important for you to be nice as

you would mean. latania is one of the many countries in the world. so you can adjoining the ever growing bricks. finally, in fact, just over the past 10 days or so, one of us 30 countries have lined up to join breaks the g, d p. all those countries already bigger than the g 7, the world is changing. the the

hello and welcome to world to parts. and they'll buy things 1st round, followed by a close call in the 2nd. the latest circuit selections did not produce the change in ankara, but they will certainly be remembered for the apps and flows and we'll see electro

process. and the, with the trick is domestic status, the wall holding. what does it mean for the transformation in the larger world to discuss that i'm now joined by her son, ronald, professor of political science and international relations at multi pay university professor. oh, now it's great to see you again. thank you very much for your time. oh, it's my pleasure. thank you very much for inviting me. now. on the eve of the 2nd round, you forecast a relatively easy victory for president area on. but the margin of that success is quite small. this short of 5 percent. what does it mean for the legitimacy of both the president and the electoral process? i mean, is it wide enough to give the president the confidence that he needs and narrow enough to ward off a potential allegations of actions broad while if you, if we look at the election resolve sober, the last is almost 2 decades. i'll show this as being what we keep seeing, basically add on uh, one the previous presidential elections by

a small margin. again, i think he got it in the 1st style and by a margin of uh, 51.7 percent or something. so these margins in the talk to selection traditions are not terribly bad so i don't think there would be any clout cost on the legit to miss out the elections. indeed, the opposition has conceded defeat, and there's been a quite a lively debate in the opposition circles as to what to do, whether the organization data should actually resign from his position. or you initially indicate that he would fight back even though the position conceded the defeat uh, the leader of delta position. mr. police, darrell low, pronounced of these elections as one of the most unfair in recent years. do you think the opposition may take it further and call it supporters onto the streets or

take some other action and we have a saying entire construction. it's just come to me. we say at wrestler, which is a who's defeated and keeps asking for a new route. okay. awesome. so that's quite understand about, i mean he hasn't won anything since he basically took over to the main opposition party. i'm, these become almost missed a defeatist at, but do you know who at each time you would come up with some sort of an excuse for running into the next sound. but i suppose this time it's going to be quite difficult for him to stand. and if not impossible, because she's seems to have used all his excuses, but at the same time, uh, the people that owned himself again, i keep reading it, but uh well that it keep advising a him not to base it resigned,

but to keep fighting. but the, somebody may or i think am, is coming up for it and is coming up for a fight. uh huh. to get to the district of dominion or position. so it's going to be an interesting period. but what i say is, it's not basically just about the leader, but it is the leadership that counts. i think the 1st is ok. domino position lead to college donald or was quite a feeble person. you know, he wasn't strong enough to stand against out of the ground. yeah. brand new to color in 2010. i was also a very into his just think about the a prospective change in the government and all that. but the, all those hopes were dashed quick date because she didn't beach could present any property leadership. can i ask you a couple of questions about the present or the on because he was victory and

ultimately funding the electorate. that, as you mentioned, actually they, they lectured, remain, split the across many lines, urban the rural, you know, the secular, religious and many others. do you understand this, please to be primarily domestically based how turkey is wrong? or is it more about turkish positioning on the international stage? well, this time, i think i'm the, i'm, the view was they had a position that basically came up and as to how to wrong tack because the sort of proposals they came up with didn't appeal to the masses. i mean, imagine a situation. you have a need that who's been running the country for over 2 decades. i mean, she's basically, he's popularity may have enrolled at am at the me a, there is widespread of dissatisfaction with the way she's around the country with

the way he formulates policies with the way she does things. plus you have and it's a terrible economic crisis module, which is because of the government's dissembling of the economy. but presumably, although the government has id top, it's houses basically quite properly in the last 2 years in the house in terms of foreign policy. but in terms of handling the corner man to financial situation and all that, they seem to have made a lot of mistakes. and you can see this across the across or you know, across the top to society or whatever you go and talk to people, whoever you talk to, everybody is this displeased i dislike just by, but what your position came up with didn't seem to offer anything. uh huh. you know, the old no liberal policies, the old no liberal at financial uh,

banking for. ready london market 2 years, you know, to lend money to the doctor, but we have experienced those back, you know, and in terms of sort of a policy v m, criticism that the opposition came up with didn't set on the. ready go well with the electorate, the job then i before we go to foreign policy, one thing that interests me on the domestics, i have lots of churches, friends, and most of them i have to say, are they urbanites? and they do criticize or the on government for the way public education is, ron, for the way economy is manage. and as you mentioned in many of your articles and the are the own government changed its tax on foreign policy? do you think a now that has a renewed mandate, do you think it would be more amenable to the uh, um,

to the calls or to the dissatisfaction of uh, that portion of the electra that did not support him? can you show the same flexibility on the domestic from, from the 1st pronouncements he's been making and, and the fact that he's basically dismissed on the cabinet members. and he said, i think he would. uh so my new tablet, um and a during the election campaign, he also sort of mentioned several of the times that some of the impediments liked the interviews for instance, uh for the candidates seeking to um, but a quite a see thing to take up a public job in the government sector and uh, would be all eliminate that. so all this sounds well, but you know, these are the public pronouncements. how easy going to basically handle some of the major problems over that there remains to be seen. but

as you pointed out, the she's taught them that they basically did quite. ready quite a good job with the foreign policy over the last 2 and a half years. now, speaking both a positional tactics. you mentioned one inexplicable thing, you know, uh, uh, trying to, uh, you know, associate a trick here with the new liberal uh, global list policies. at the time when much of the world is actually demonstratively moving away from it. so that's quite difficult to understand. now all these pronouncements about nato, a given nato's track record and predominantly muslim countries. but as he understands, we are, the russians have our own bias because i think the russians generally, i used to all things thrown them that way. but i think if it was an absolutely pure astonishment in moscow when police that are little came out to be back,

is ations accusing rusher of electro interference. and sure these trick was used in the american context, but at least in the, in the case of the united states, we would have seen the, the political utility of that. in this case, we're struggling to find it. can you help us with that? well i'm, i'm actually at a loss when it comes to the he, when he comes to the 3 3rd message, actually post that on that night. i just, you know, i also posted that the message saying that this is something incredible, unprecedented in talk is particularly history, that then opposition the they're coming up and a choosing a major country in a very, very rude way. i have to say about the wage was brought to the russian. it was very come to something. i mean it was strictly like, it wasn't polite that i know turks there play people, but this was.