tv Cross Talk RT May 31, 2023 6:30pm-7:01pm EDT
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talking every day, we should be walking back from the brink of nuclear war as opposed to escalating towards it and, and i would encourage both administrations to start talking please. well we, we've had of automate, pretend in, in, in recent weeks is the recent days and recent week saying that we're always ready to talk about some sort of peaceful resolution to what's happening in ukraine. uh, so get out for off keeps saying we're open to towards and then you have, you know, density, vitamins or landscape. he was in the vatican city the other day, the pump. i mean, the pope was proposing a peaceful resolution for the confident ukraine. the landscape said no therapy and other european leaders incognito privately, pressuring zelinski to come to some sort of negotiating table. he keeps saying, no, we know that when this little kicks off, over a year ago, boris johnson forcibly scuffled the piece towards to stop peace from coming. why is it, liam? why is it that there was sides? there are people in this conflict that have every desire to escalate to make it
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more was more dangerous for the global community, lia, you know, i mean, that's a great question. i'm aware of the board shots and reports. there's also the is really prime minister. i'm saying that someone from the us stepped into kind of squash talks. what's interesting is i hear the same answer is like when you talk to bern, i hear the same answers from us, congressmen, senators, they say, you know, we want to engage and talked to, doesn't want to engage them. so i think what i've heard is there's been some, some issues around, you know, the body ministration refuses to talk to food unless the wednesday is present, but who doesn't want to have them with. so let me see i for, i don't know what all the details are, but i would just encourage, you know, all parties to start talking in some way, whether or not, you know, it's perfect to set up. i would start talking, you know, there's been reports in the us that kind of like anonymous reports that the us and ukraine are actually willing to give up crimea. so i think that's a great starting point in terms of negotiations. but yeah,
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in terms of the people who keep as putting this for i think some of it is ignoring . so i think they, you know, they think the war started in february of 2022. they think students, hitler, and that's, you know, just isn't the full story of like our involvement, the us involvement in the oak grove. you had a cove it, so part of it is misunderstanding the war. but regardless of your understanding of the war, you need to recognize the risk of nuclear war and you need to be talking to avoid that. so i'll say that again, people to start talking. all right, some very interesting commentary. there is some very nice and measured statements from different times report, liam, called, scribe is great to have you on the program. i hope i hope to see you again soon. thank you guys have a good one. well, they must be note ceasefire in ukraine. that's what the new chief us live on, the land is advocating, arguing any truce, would it be damaging to keep together with your printer? we want a just piece a ceasefire. resulting in
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a frozen conflict will not bring lasting peace. i stole a ceasefire, wasn't place after 2014. and we know what happened to that arrangement last february when russia invited to craig. so i'm elected european commission president . ursula borderline is pretending that the ministry agreement cease fire deal in the dawn bass between russia and ukraine and with france and germany as guarantors did not stick because russia didn't a whole. it's end of it. the cleaners of the bumper head and get amnesia and forget the whole series of events that the western press that she was involved with. does she write this stuff that she says or solve for even bothering to read it before hands who at least you know, make sure that didn't jive is with her actual reality. because back in january of 2022, about a month before the conflict in ukraine went red hot european and american leaders, including founder lines, successfully pressured ukraine and zalinski to take legislation off the table. that
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would have explicitly violated the misc piece agreement. and well, not hold. the french president was running around at the time in a tizzy saying that the green is where the path to peace. the west was loading up ukraine with weapons on the russian border. and training guys with nazi child seems to find for you frame. so is queen ursula seriously saying that any potential feature ceasefire and ukraine can't possibly do better than the one that was so poorly respected that it sits down into the public domain. and the western press was reporting that zalinski was pretty much getting his behind spanked by western leaders. they were like parents at a restaurant just what thing is little, but in front of everyone for trying to repeatedly reach for the candle on the table and risking burning the whole place down. but worse than that, they were acting like parents then turned around and handed him matches and
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lighters and any weapons he possibly could ever want. as soon as they were back home and in private and thought that no one would judge the a friend or former french president, post slow around. it said back in march, that the minced agreements bought ukraine time to build up its military capacity against russia. so, using a cease fire as a pretexts to build up weapons. not exactly what one does with piece in mind. so is fonder lines seriously saying that is the gold standard that can possibly be beat in terms of any potential future piece dealers, the spire and that's exactly along the same lines as what other european leaders are saying, for example, polish prize. and they do that today, they say the driver put in was the war, and she's the food is that finland joined nato. ladies and gentlemen, flat them or put them, has not lost a single war, but i hope you will lose this one. now russia is crushing ukraine. we know that only victory over russia will give us a save world. so as you frame and we're really going to be calling the shots for
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all of europe and the west, now we're pretty much supposed to believe that's the case for us president donald trump pot flack during his term in the white house for holding a congressionally approved weapons for ukraine, military aid, in light of what we know now, what was already going on under the guise of a cease fire and these misc accords, his actions seemed to make a bit more sense. trump was asked recently whether he wanted a ukrainian wind over russia and here's what he said. do you, are you trying to win this for? uh, i don't think in terms of winning and losing, i think in terms of getting it settled. so we stop killing all these people and breaking down. can you say if you want ukraine or russia to win this war? i want everybody to stop dying, dying russians and you say i want him to stop guy. yeah, that's the type of medic business man like approach you know,
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doesn't really matter who wins or loses. it should be a win win in the everybody lives. well, that's kind of a far cry from what we're hearing from or the western european and us leaders who are framing this as an absolute must win for ukraine and the cost of even more lives. but it's a quote, good investment for them. as former secretary of state hillary clinton and senator lindsey graham have both said, now if that's a sentiment that's rattling around in western court or is a power, then it really does explain a lot of what's going on and what we're seeing. let's good to hear a company for this. i was program africa's desire to find a new equal place in the modern world and profit from its own natural resources. well, that's the one the backing of moscow. russia is different about to make the comments while then most on beef is just the latest legacies, latest africa to i. it sounds like a new courtship. africa does not want to return to colonial times. it wants to make the most of the natural resources it possesses and not just to trade raw materials
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that have been exported from here for centuries, but to make products that will have added value in being demand. and of course, today's africa is immeasurably more aware of its identity and is increasingly insistently demanding for itself an equal place in the emerging multi polar world order, including through proper and fair representation in the un security council, which russia supports quote. so to get all of those visits and balls and they can be a pest, concise that followed after i think provides very good snapshots of the changes happening within the international system. because many african countries, as we have been reporting through all of this visit, have taken the position of neutrality. when it comes to the conflict in ukraine, they refused to succumb to the west. some pressure to impose sanctions against russia or terminate financial energy. other sorts of deals with the russian federation as to the level set today of the press conference. this is demonstration
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that africa is not what it used to be. you know, africa wants to be treated with dignity. it wants to be treated with respect. it doesn't want to be a rubber stamp in the united nations. it wants to take a self interested, constructive and substantive role in international affairs. and mozambique is a good example of that because it's a country that has had a productive relationship with mosca ever since its independence in 1975 has a pretty vibrant industrial cooperation with the soviet union. one thing i want to mention is that most on pick itself is no stranger to arms conflict, its face the very bloody civil war. back in the 1996. it is still suffering from militant insurgency in the north of the country, but the position of mos on because that all conflicts need to be set sounds through direct dialogues. so we stress the need for the entire international community to seek local solutions to local problems. our prism emphasized the role for russia in
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the mediation of numerous conflicts, including the cleaning conflict. in particular, the chinese initiative, emphasizing the need for direct dialogue between countries. she also welcomed the efforts of the russian federation to organize the 2nd rush of africa for them. unexpressed readiness, if necessary, to contribute to the establishment of peace and good neighborliness between russia and ukraine. now, uh, there was also a very interesting question about the rumors surface by the american ambassador to south africa about the suppose it trade a weapons trade between south africa and russia, russian for ministers sub. if american ambassadors have any issues or doubts about that. they should mind their own business, use the media if something was stopped by the american or any other overseas ambassador. and then in general, you need to know your place and not get into other people's affairs. as for the topic of arm supplies,
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i would like to emphasize once again that we never violate international norms, but our western colleagues do violate them. they declare neutrality with regard to the events and ukraine, but pump the country with a huge amount of modern, long range and generally unsafe weapons, including for those who use them, i mean the shelves with depleted uranium to give support to a regime whose official representatives loudly threatened to kill all russians, all of them. therefore, it is probably better for american passengers to take care of their own image in the eyes of the foreign public. villarreal p. accuse the west uh directly of exploiting africa and the many other parts of the world. them, he said that the many countries do not want to go on with that. as before. as far as person for the, for the chinese embassy in india has published a tweet, highlighting an article in a chinese news opposite the global times. suggesting, quote, sinister manipulation on the part of washington to divide beijing
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a new deli now the west, particularly the us, attempts to more concealed form of divide and rule on a larger scale. concoct and emphasize the concept of dragon elephant rivalry, and engage in sinister psychological manipulation between china and india. meanwhile, the us congressional committee has recommended the inclusion of india into the nato plus group of countries. the suggestion comes a month before the indian in 5 minutes. so in the rental modi as scheduled to visit america, the committee setting putting new deleon to the car and 5 member group was made to quote, when the strategic competition with the chinese communist party winning the strategic competition with the chinese communist party and ensuring the security of taiwan demands, the united states strength and ties with our allies and security partners, including india, where the global times also held at measures the indian governments at times to. it
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will break with this past feature in the new parliament building. that is, there should be an open to in, in delhi, for example, the prime minister taking, taking part in the opening ceremony for the $120000000.00 building saying it will. the witnesses, the doing of a self reliant india check in with the chinese editorial outlined in the confidence in freeing itself from all traces of colonialism or political science as the packing on one besides or joining nato might be counter productive for india at the end of the day i joe name does need to know would and undermined the induced relationship with russia and china and for her to join the natal at this moment and will be something they do not one see as a high priority. so this one to have comfortable, anyone, i think this is clear and the why is 2 people balancing at the region and trying to, well, the saw with old other countries. yeah. because it can,
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you look at the tree in relationship between the good in china, they tree the tree and uh, economic force between india and china has been growing all these recently. so you can get a smart one. didn't want to trick on that and to create for the implications, especially security invocation for india, a colonial era scramble for resources and solve after it's being remembered today. effective this wednesday months, a 121 years since the end of the 2nd bullet war. one of the biggest and costly is conflicts of the british for the, for the 1st world war. i just a bit of a backed up for you. the door of the 20th century on britain attempted to satisfy his appetite for a south african minerals and gold cleaning some 70000 lives. in the process of the ministry. power was on even half a 1000000 british soldiers facing off against 88000 bar troops and due to an unknown and very tough terrain for the british of the bull republic did gain the
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opera handled 1st. the vote british forces did finally prevail open antoine caesar catholic themselves for more details. the narrative of this concepts the leaves, or rather between these 2 warring fire insides on the african so has been carried through over many years and the police and dispute thoughts of the involvement of subjects. not only i'm reading your thoughts in this full, but in did some of the worst pain and see facts. flex are employed in the concentration camps, them inwards as minutes you supply and age 14. and while the transporting food and weapons as well as animal feats, the women on the other hand, as well as the children are not stayed as the woods and the concentration camps as assistance to the women as full was to feed the front line commandos. now, the british fleet suits in using the black label s 5 and the movement of the fluids, as well as helping that which is navigates the south african landscape. now many of these black men and women died not as a result of the voice south back from multiple diseases,
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from the overcrowding in those concentration camps, as well as plus invitation, entering t 19 a purchase and to defend that the actions of his full fathers during a dialogue about winston churchill legacy. now, jacob reese mould was justifying concentration. came stealing an appearance on pvc christian time. while these concentration camps held black and will women and children against, they will often abruptly meeting them from the funds was over 27000 of them died at those can only 6000 men died as a result of the voice of that which is empty and says that the formation of the camps will for the safety, south african concentration camps had exactly the same mortality, right? as existing laws go with the time. so that not a good thing, but where else will people going to live when the use of concentration got? no, i didn't on talking about the boat, the boil had people pushing and comes full. the protects was a bridgework then to the use a concentration,
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but i'm afraid you'll confusing concentration. comes with it, says extermination. come outside of this. i like the ne calls and the, all these were people who were in tongue for the safety. the numbers of those that perished during the war remained conclusive for the foot and the british. but alarmingly, the black mess. this will account for launch a percentage of the dates remain. i know which is campaign. i mean, clubhouse has come out with the latest evidencing how little smaller was the, the, the of the british army had been since or other had rather sent a glitches to or of the he seems to be able to meet the situation in south africa at the time he also writes glitches that meets the atrocities close to the bushes and the natives of the land, ease and keep scores of children that were dying and how the conditions and that came so atrocious, with little to no food as well as milk, basic health care the theory that all the weekly children being dead, the rate would fall off is not so far borne out by the facts. the strong ones must
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be dying now and they will all be dead by the spring of 19 o. 3. i thought we had begun to turn the corner and that after having reached unparalleled heights of mortality in october, we should now show a heavy decline. unfortunately, the figures have risen again. alarmingly. this, the control was a complex and lighted concepts that have far reaching consequences with southern africa and the clue. it remains an important event in the history of imperialism and colonialism and serves as a reminder of the human cost of will and country. ringback that's of, i'm assuming for r t to finish that up. almost half. gunter was administered into waste, a pseudo believes the colonial era. so one of the most shameful pages of history in the us because we just standing by with nobody to protect them. and indeed, the numbers are still going to come. i think it registers right now, something like a 100000 black people died for no reason the war had nothing to do with them. in
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fact, the 2 interior disclosed had no right whatsoever to come and waves the oval on. so that's a concern without too much it is by you and he from the people are due to the people of, of the country. it was about the beginning of the 2 to kind of position off the country until we liberated each we're to very which continent a kind of continent with anybody who didn't belong to this country and be and who wants to come into play, came to it. they was in the arms of the head. we didn't, we had, you know, on the munition that you have into come into the continents such as all the heads up to see over the, overcame us. and we didn't have the kind of unity as often as we would have been able to suppose the job is to make sure that we get rid of every vestige of new colonialism. because was the colonialist when packing home of to became quite clear
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that they had no place in our country. they developed trade relations with us, that we know to not favor the develop relations with us. they did those missiles that even safer assets favorites and sells, which is a despicable act from europeans that i don't think i have had the on i to apologize for only 2 in that which they still from the african continent. the, well no one, the one might think of the african continent is kind of the growing and clustering itself towards the new multi po, in the world or the days of the you any part of hedge him on the far coming to an end reading more about that, but also you don't a the timeline is very clear deliveries of at 16 jets because we've been unacceptable escalation. we've heard this form of renters before,
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think back to the weeks before the start, the brushes special military operations. the russians weren't bluffing that, and they're not fluffing. now the, the energy crisis is dealing a devastating blow to e. u industry. the, the number of for testers has rich media. the day of june to the authorities, actions is to use economic stability. the different place undermine the
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could don't really be the the opposite there says most neighborhoods desk, not all 3 of the somebody burleson. i was privileged and the key just recreation. your thought is gabriel point movie smith. he's telling me actually those 2, and that's up in the funny to go for economic addition. even though it gives me the last place to this newest and delight at the come of the kitchen at the pick. and i may just keep a book item 672 don't nipple by yell. so basically i don't use this to touch because in you get away from actually simple initially and ground the meat, carrington, i. so the former foreign ministers of australia,
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she left the in scene for her life. why left australia i left the day in summer 2020 i. it was death threats and one minute, but also a defective provision to work. and i had been living on 50 euro as a week for about a year in the house because i had very little income. i think it was the fact that i had searched as an independent minnesota able to show pod. is there a no, a french political analyst professor with the military academy and all 3 of academic works on geo politics, including the explain book chronicle of the clash of civilizations, in which he assesses current developments in europe. this book was the beginning of my providence to be, to be able in this because i was fired from the french military academy. i was very profit. so during 10 years this was the beginning of the arrival of missed the 2nd
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south quincy. and that by time people record a new point, so that a preliminary 10 west phone go stronger in the french defense system. and they wanted to fire me because a was notes pro 12 taste. it was not pro us. and they said, we don't need this guy anymore. so it was organized as to the a fire. this is reasonable blame the split premiums. and he's supposed to mention it, just the scalability, christine and all throughout that gets pushed on. how many people will blame just to sock and by going to their money and bills being a bit compton job to get school payment doesn't give you some good ice and get scottish me at a fleet the recent shops cuz you'd meet up at the point of a statement, bruce and mainstream san lindsey also have amazing since since a because the so it does is did under the deal,
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the problem sent in on this problem. so right in 2017 and i became minister. but the real problem started when i wasn't at any moment, is that the cost, so they, they made a very big patriots campaign after this was long before i acquitted austria's support for food in tonight. so spreads russian propaganda x on a, she administer joins the list of the use pro criminal and it will be the ex ministers now be in charge with animal cruelty because of a shameless, the pool. and what stolen about it on griffin, for she didn't optimize. i didn't see it reported to those things,
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but not every life is s equal. what, what, what does to put is enough to do. they sell reports to the media that what happens to decimal protection. and when i tried to go to port, i was told the most fear against me is so bad, i should bet enough to go to port. so there was no protection on definitely with the media that was awful. great punishment gold are the bears boosting on the display. so this is the baseband foster thing comes in. the hands of this speech was media are also good at the 3 of them in the audit that's called not everything that needs to break free from our dependency on russia. it is a matter of political will. we will find solutions and we are working on the last dependency on russian impulse. and if he decides to, to cuts the supplies,
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we would have to be tossed. we think we can replace the restroom, gas supply and the plan is being executed right now. if this is something very up to you, which of course, it's not no more than the no more democracy, you should have the right to express your own views, rebuilding foreign policy, but such as notification, email you to say, excuse me, for student ms. help childrens computer that you can people to push the sheets, the good you knew about school. she didn't own problems. these fellows the sort them out, the show. so shocked in full day and put back on these 2 but young that was i am a responsible person and whatever action i have to take or i took i, i take the responsibility for this action and i didn't change my opinion on that. like president stein my of germany did or like that it's not up to me to do this. explain why on it the why dish category is i just shouldn't you must i to you
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and i mean yeah it's so it describes a new ways to be integrated. swimming a bought a cheap, but i start with the, with the name of a different story or somebody see what i think but the on the or the. yeah. and i was sure even that, but the issue with the meal series or for me know, scan sort of see was i shipped to the show us could, could you check the weather to see, you know, but the want to continue at each can yet it is yeah, as a resource that i see a brochure promotion, does english tall make it as the does be in the future on the site that's in physical beside the meetings in the image. think i understood minds on page some houses because the visual some, gorbachev isn't precise, estimates inventory and most then items have been the elizabeth productive still ultimately what beats and those are what will be disclosed to the flaws in the suggest to use them as much good people definitely get, looks like they have a full of purple and they want to put up if you slip it,
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going to give them the beach up to see what we mean. so it's the focus to this element of the really distilling, explain. we start the mostly simple to do up of the modem, can use the source to eliminate the switch from, from the, from the end of this to him. so there's just some fuzzy just to show you up to the nipple formula from the speed. remember, the one who was looking you can send all evil to tough, the glue, the whole good. it's a sort of the familiar to both when you said to the good one other from below to computers for the photo. so please blow, but the patrol new york just needs and i'm going to put a little more on the do all we're still going to transfer you. i'm not he co good. it's literally and you just uh i can tell you which one good thing. curious, know people with the screw of concern, you may have opened the door because i'm sitting in the study. got the key to go from there, or you need to click on you, but we we can stop with you because
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if your switch, it's mostly due to this new thing we do, you will see what it takes to create a the story, in your opinion. also people though i know from the n d, or evokes an invitation to all rica guerrero, to serve on a panel of judges for the in the on non fiction of book prize. square of doesn't speak russian or ukrainian. and this never closely studied nature. so she has no basis on which to make assessments the board to bring it to the point, the dismissal. the goals can use the tools that are similar. uh, do you mind if someone was referred for 6 of folding with 50 to 14 years and he explained used the vehicle for you to do for the say that it's that old book to do these concerts. but then we're going to have several to always do of just move stuck you who is this it? to put your form that else with confidence. so for me you will focus with me when you let me do it. sure, let me see what so below the look at the so the 2 of us but it's to bill i'm totally simple. so no.
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