and it is the biggest frustration for a lot of people watching. this is the whole issue of timing and i think you were on my program when i asked though, who's got the clocks and who's got the time. and the way i read is not, not a military expert, even though everybody on cable thinks they are. i'm not ok. the i'm, i'm serious, you know, a, the way i look at it is, are this, they have succeeds all this little trinkets that you, that's just for p r. okay? um, but the way i look at it is that the, the russians are waiting for the counter offensive, it will fizzle out, and that's when they will take their charge. i mean that, that, that history is proven that over and over again, i mean, the battle of quarter skills. probably a good example, dan, as well. yes. i mean, i think, militarily, russia has probably, you know, an advantage that cannot be, you know, the counter is this point any serious way. the goal of the united states, at this point is to keep, keep the war going for as long as possible. and in many regards,

that means trying to win the propaganda war, trying to show that we're still doing something to help ukraine trying to show that ukraine still has some fight left in them though. not much. and that really, again, is the tragedy here. i think the result of this war is not going to change the rush . it will prevail. but what's gonna happen is the war will be prolonged, and many more people will die on both sides. and that is the horrible tragedy of all this. and the idea that somehow the u. s. cares about ukraine or the cranium people i think is the live by that fact that they don't care how many ukrainians die in this effort next to your peer that given that the 2024 election campaign is right around the corner, that that is only going to incentivize the, by the administration to keep this war going even further because they do not want to rush in victory before the 2024 election or, or, or the are. let me,

we have one minute before we go to the bank. john, i want to flip what we just heard from down here. they just don't want a ukrainian to feed ok. now they're not even thinking about a russian. basically. they just want to keep the craniums going. it and in spite part is saying, okay, remember it's a very barber by part of to come on. like i said, we're, they'll, they'll keep them on life. support. life support happens to be f sixteens and infinitive. amounts of money of indebtedness to the ukranian people. so no matter what happens, the american military industrial structure and its bank stir, fine answers are going to extract their wells back plus interest, money plus interest on interest. as a result, that's domain name. now the wars already lost, no doubt about it. yeah, but it's been a good investment for a lot of people and yeah, very good. having the and victoria knew and got the russians in the amount of the russians in the ukraine into the fight. that's a remarkable outcome. gentleman and we're going to go to a short break,

and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine and escalation. stay with our team. the the russian states never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community invest. i'll send some of the same assistance to progress be the one else calls question about this. even though we will ben in the european union the kremlin mission, the state on the rush of funding and split from ortiz full neck, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for what question did you say from stephen twist, which is the

good to should ok. yeah. or share it, cuz i the it is a little nimble there showing that the answer of the thing is the most for me name is let's see if she has all kinds of funny marketing. let's see. what was it? g e o you follow up with them? are stuff like you list for cvt?

the on the welcome x across ok, we're all things are considered on peter roosevelt remind you we're discussing ukraine and escalation the . okay, let's go back to larry in tampa. i'm sure you will agree with me and our viewers that victoria knew and tag keep her big mouth shut. okay. so you know,

she was at this for a to zoom. she was that this form recently. um yeah, it's a new kids running into i'm sure it's a good griffith for everybody involved. but she said within 4 to 5 months ago, um uh, working with you on your calendar offensive. yeah. um, i wonder how fast that light will go down the memory hole after all of this is done? no, because we do remember the payments telephone call, which every p at the us and basset, or to ukraine. i right before the cool and her very flour. lee language, which i can not use on this program, but you know, this is the essence of it all here. this is, she also said i didn't write it down for our program, but you know, ukraine will become like the epicenter of global democracy and all this kind of, i'll be doing, says it was gushing, but it was, it was uh, also galling. but here's is woman very far away. very well said, well funded and she's saying go into the meat grinder, we're right behind you. it's extraordinary larry, a book. but the,

the same picture is worth a 1000 words. a victoria, a new language and joy, heavy, her picture and a dictionary because that would be there with toxic and delusional. so she would at least have 2 definitions that would be associated with her. her image, i have never in my life seen a situation like we are seen with respect to ukraine, where they continue to announce the impending counter offensive. can i offer my readers? it's on our 21 dot com to do a thought experiment. let's go back to the day and imagine what would have happened if the general eisenhower and less than churchill and roosevelt were announced or offensive were coming up. okay, we're going to launch in june. we're coming to ask you what, what would have been the consequences? well, the, we all know what the consequences would have been. the, the allies would have been beaten and would have lost the germans would not have

been confused and they would have been prepared to destroy. so why did we say, do we have such magical st team now that, that here we are as a 80 years after that of that almost that we're, we're now thinking that we can announced in advance what's going to happen. so the with newton saying this kind of thing, it just is probably the reinforcers are and confidence and the insanity of this behind her. that's what, that's what bothers me because she has no regard for the loss of human life that is unfolding in ukraine. and this is decidedly on the ukrainian side, that is suffering the enormous amount of casualties. yeah, the thing you've got to be the other thing you've got to take into account here is the meaning of the words we and our offensive. victoria newman's own family comes from us freight. yeah. so when she says our offensive and your offensive isn't the american government to the american people's offensive, or is it an infiltration of the us government?

it by people who decided generations ago to take action against russia by moving to america. moving up the ladder inside the regime, like madeline albright using the u. s. people, the us tax paper in the us taxpayer and the us government as a weapon of war for another nation. yeah. well, and also, john, you can, you can throw in the latest veneration of mr. vin. okay. which apparently is going to the bank on this as well. i mean, the buy mike mike next question has to do with grab. so i'm going to go to dan here . so, you know, i'm now and so, you know, i mean, i think she said, you know, even to the effect, you know, when that, when there's the nato summit, i mean, we really pinpointing it for everybody. okay. but it's, i think it's for griffith. ok. it says signaling to big donors, that means like congress and the arm is the producers. you know, you know, so that the accounts for the, the drug attack of the kremlin, that last 24 hours, the political assassinations. what they're doing is they're keeping

a ukraine is all in the market or, you know, they were, they'll be the rest of the, the ukrainian tags will be in moscow before you know it. but it all it does is the creed create this propaganda war. the keep it well funded and then we saw with the recent ridiculous debt debt crisis at o, the defense department is always safe. dan? yeah, well again, i think from the western point of view, this is largely a propaganda war and they're pretty good at what size they're. yeah they're, they're probably the superior party here. yeah. and propaganda. and uh, and frankly, the american people, sadly, are quite willing to believe the propaganda, even though they've been live you so many times about these types of projects, right in iraq and afghanistan. you know, we have the act in papers that show that early on, right. our leaders knew that this was an unwinnable war, and yet we kept going for 20 years and trillions of dollars. whatever was

there as you're getting it. yeah, it was built in hundreds of dollars. that was the target of the war. this is, this is the paradigm shift that nobody wants to make. these wars are intended to drive the profitability of the military industrial complex and they do not care whether they win them or not. because if they lose them today, they can initiate the same or again, and either way, it's a profit of $40.00 to $1.00 and that's what the minimum military expenditure profit is. 40 to one. you can't even get that at las vegas. that's what they're playing with. yeah, well, larry, okay, but since it has been mentioned here, i mean, who's ever been punished in the last half century for a bit? being a uh, for a strategic blunders. has anyone ever been held to account? i mean john's got a really good point win lose or draw. it's still a good money making endeavor. larry, it's the best. well, he may have endeavor,

the hang on, go ahead. what else do i have? i go ahead. learned. yeah. yeah. it has been such that there hasn't been no accountability. there, however, is it's with what's coming out of this war. yes, the, the western military industrial complex is wrapping it out. and we're seeing all sorts all the wounds of life and all the wonder weapons that are following the high mars the page. really the same, you know, the 45 year old, the old man and the group. and yet, what's being exposed is a russia is the feeding these technologies. in fact, the, in a country. now that would buy a patriot for air defense would be crazy. yeah. because the rushes debit demonstrated that it's systems the s 400. the es 350. now coming out the s 500 are far superior. anything that the western industrial. okay. okay. and larry elizabeth n j and what was the cheaper what, what is the country that figured that out for saudi arabia they figured it out, right? yeah. and, and a lot of people have been taking notice, okay, i, you know,

i called in to very expensive trinkets. okay. that's what they are. okay. and, and if you look at it, i want to bore our viewers. so your or my guess, but as it was explained to me by a russian military expert, is that the russians, they but it goes back to the so be there, they have a system that works and they just make it better and better and better it find that these things that can fly upside down and inside out and you know, might work, might not work. you might find a reason for it, but we're going to build it any way. okay. that's what they do in the west. okay? here it's very different and it's very, very practical dan, let me go to you in pittsburgh. the, the, the biggest problem, you know, cuz we were talking about how be a western piece of west that are, is, are you explain this more in the process? for me, it's very discursive. it's the narrative. what the, what the west wants is they want rushes destruction, and what rush has been saying all along, as we need to find a viable piece for europe. now, i know one is more sexy than the other,

but the 2nd one is to everyone's benefit. and this administration and nato world will not listen to that because russia must be vanquished. but if it's not, hopefully nato will be damn. well, certainly, ne, that nato, you know, shouldn't have ever existed in that certainly. but at any purpose that, that purpose, you know, went away a long time ago with the collapse of the soviet union and these block. but in any case i'm, yes, i think data will go away. but the problem is, the, the us and it's military aggression probably won't go away that easily. you know, i, i look so, you know, wistfully at the days when we had a president by john f. kennedy, who was willing to deal with crew chavo or something like the cuban missile crisis, and many of called what's happening now. new crane the reverse cuban missile price . it's right that it's, it's now this russia being threatened, you know,

by war and by, by miss 1000 troops on its borders. as the us saw being threatened by missiles in cuba, skilled kennedy was willing to make concessions to rach is that down. i do not see a white house that is willing to do that then that is really the tragedy here. yeah . and john on top of it and that you know, uh, the white house is vacant in many different ways. um, but yeah, it's one of the things it's different this time around is that in the european the weights have been completely cowed. i mean, you have the german chancellor, i call him sergeant schultz on this program, but it is repeatedly humiliated and he just takes it's extraordinary. that's a job that's. that's because the so called democratic collections across europe are remote control from washington. and any criticism of zalinski also is misplaced because he's nothing but a marion at. and if you trace the wires all the way back to source by is also

a mary annette of the bags, chairs, and of the military industrial complex. his job is just a rubber step, the spending of tax payers money and its transfer into the hands of those who do not give a damn about america, about ukraine, or about anything related to either. larry, it's my, i think you and i have the, i talked about this before. this conflict will come to an end of it. it will come to end on brushes terms and rushes terms only. um they, you know, the main scope process that the west showed itself to be. duplicity is liars blowing up the, the north stream pipeline. i mean who, who in their right mind is going to talk to these people very. i got another, there is no fence. that's what worries me, peter, is that there is no off ramp here. there. i use the united states has built up such a hostile rhetoric and, and made it impossible civil for anything negotiated. so, but there is no basis of trust. so the only option is, this is,

i think this is going to escalate. the world is going to spread. it is going to involve nato and russia is going to end up destroying nato. i think that's all what, what is in the long term plan. and russia actually needs to do that in order to eliminate the missile threat. that's in romania and poland right now. and, you know, you probably got something like it doesn't involve, but i frankly do not see. but here you're absolutely right. because because from where i am, nobody wants to do this again in 5 years or 10 years or 20, or they have the we, it has to be a resolution that and that's what makes it scary. but that's the promise as well. gentleman, that's all the time we have a one, i think my guess in pittsburgh came by and, and valid. great. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our tea. see you next time we members process the the

russian beach that means tanks or troops crossing the border. grades. again we, there will be no longer interstate. we, we will, they wanted to change the situation where western europe is dependent upon the russian guest to a situation. well, western europe is dependent on n g a. m, or you can guess, and that's it video which i truly, thanks to re ukraine, the wall. so here we are in, it says in post energy crisis, which leads to the emigration of companies. uh, less industry. and this is just

a continuation of the, you know, go to best the webs. it will show nicole bush is divided, giving in the same way as the sub is in the same way as the row you got some time will use that will be a problem most by the boys. obviously, jack, that is the watson has sent me, is that all c? i use the,

[000:00:00;00] the top headlines right now and i'll see international that's russians. defense ministry says, but shouldn't, shouldn't, military unit called a lot. it's been ordered onto the offensive in going fast, while in a desa rushing, the forces sign q cranes. last naval ship. the u commission president advocates against any ceasefire in ukraine, claiming a peace field would be against kids go on stage. something was stopped by the american or any other overseas in pasadena, just in general. you need to know your place and not get into other people's affairs. we never violate international norms, but our western colleagues do violate them after those 4 minutes. so taking a swipe of western assets you,

it's during his tour of africa all hailing independent decision making for the confidence punch the i'm coming to you from the heart of the russian capital with your news on phil. this is off the international headquarters. projection about the forces unit has been cool to go on the offensive and on bass sits according to the russian ministry of defense. it also added that ukraine's last enabled warship had been destroyed in the port city of a desktop. i must go, so it is a high precision strike, hit the ship, a visa, and verify the images report lease, showing the moment of the strike. we have more detail. so with the developments denazi's, steve sweeney of these special operations policies. this is a unit by you staying. the chechnya has starting to make and volunteers against ukrainian through to me. k town of modern cannot. this is about 30 could all meant

to to the west of a don't yet this is up to the cruise. well, this is a ukrainian stronghold, i mean, is being used to belong to attracts on a civilian navies on residential areas since fighting the gun in 2014. now we also heard the ministry say that ukraine had lost some $200.00 soldiers in the throne, yet region along with a range of military harbor. and now this includes uh, a number of, uh ahmed vehicles and transport vehicles. and at least uh, 2 of these uh, multiple lawrenceville, consistence of ever game use so effectively into deadly effect on the civilian populations have. and as we heard in the page that the last ukranian warship has also been strong, struck uh some cause rather off. it was struck in a precision strike in the pool city of death. so now it was somebody the in the last 24 hours, the russian defense system,

which of working so hard to keep it on boss region, save up down to a number. so they said 12 rootkits launched by the us applied high miles system, along with one of the storm shadow is a these are the long range missiles that were supplied by the british government, as announced by the defend 63 ben boys in mid may. now this comes is like just developed, these latest developments come off to at least 5 people believed to be construction workers were killed and at least 19 were wounded in ukrainian. okay, a talk on a bulky form in new guns. but the latest developments you can probably have maybe, perhaps shedding, there's been a tax on the residential and civilian areas across don't yet. city today we've seen smoke billowing, also the focus of impacted on the target. so these latest developments as well potentially bring something for relief for the people of don't pass who of course have come under diety attract for the last 9 years. meanwhile,

and it look at its got 5 people killed and 19 and wounded in ukrainian, showing a local poultry farm. and the village of capacity was reportedly strong unless he can show you the awesome off and damage done to the buildings also have vehicles as well as we understand the police to be civilian construction workers and the town of ship like, you know, in russia's belgrade region that was also hit over night, at least for people wounded. there will show you some old pictures from the scene, you know, several residential buildings damaged, a cause destroyed if photos another attack on the border area earlier this week, which left a civilian dead. and 2 more wounded, one of refugees center was targeted. local officials have now begun to evacuate children from several board of districts, so the 1st group of $300.00 leaving the region on wednesday. but escalating the calls that can ukraine to further involve western countries would come the security interest of washington. so it says the us national security

council spokesman john cubby, but he added the us will continue with military a to key of no matter what the thought is. kind of muffin now feels in the details . it's john kirby said the answer at this point the united states is not a party to the consulate. it is only providing weapons providing training when it is not interested in directing your brain weird to target for him to attack. now at this point, he did also mentioned that the united states as counseling ukraine, but he didn't describe exactly what that entails. the u. s. a does not want to know who conducted strikes against the crowned one. and it turns a blind eye to us, provided weapon rate is now being used on russian territory. here's what he said president. so once again, is military commanders decide what they're going to do from a military perspective. and they decide what they're going to do with the equipment that isn't provided to them. and that the, you know, on all that said,

we have been very clear with the craniums privately. we certainly been clear publicly that we do not support attacks inside russia. and we do not enable and we do not encourage attacks inside russia. we've seen the ukrainian denial with it anything to do with you're talking about the drone psych on the apartment building in moscow. so we refer you to the crane government to speak to that. we don't have any specific information that the tells us who is responsible and it's not like we're going to go out and investigate this and get it. you know, it's not that that wouldn't be appropriate for us to do. now. when speaking, john kirby also remarked that the united states opposes a tax on russian territory because they want to quote, avoid. ready world war 3, however, he added that despite the debt ceiling crisis in the united states, there is no question that us aid will continue to flow to ukraine and as for the,

the debt ceiling. uh, the, the deal. uh it wont don't have are what happens in the halls of congress. there won't be in effect on our ability to support ukraine. so as we heard from john kirby, he expressed the fact that the united states is going to continue to arm ukraine. provide them with the training exercises council, but insisted that the united states is not overseeing and is not responsible for the actions of the ukrainian military that they then carry out with this training after these exercise. ready with this counsel from the united states up quite a bit, quite an interesting case, john. courteous trying to make here saying that the united states is going to remain heavily involved in facilitating the conflicts in ukraine, but should not take responsibility for being directly involved. the prime minister of georgia has blamed nato expansion for the conflict in ukraine,

saying it triggered an escalation in the 1st place. i think everybody, everybody know the reason i'm not sure i do. what do you think it is? i think, you know, with well and in the audience knows it. one of the main reasons would need to write nato enlargement, right, and many other reasons you think that nato enlargement provokes the war. well, i don't want to speculate okay, and i don't want to quote the statements. so the russian government, but one of the reasons was your brains will and determination to become member of nato. and so therefore, we see the consequence with his wife a long history of tension, with a rupture of a to territory dispute. so the 2 countries originally resumed direct flights after a long absence and sailed a visa free travel agreement. that provoked a skeptical response from the west. with both the you and the united states already

critical up to police c for not in joining the sanctions against moscow. meanwhile, key f as last style to the new comments of the georgia in prime minister. it is very disappointing, 3 grain now to hear such messages. we are very sorry for georgia, which is now in a situation where the top government officials can make such statements. for my children, i'm here to load it up myself. i'd say believes the west wanted to provoke, oval as russia had continuously wanda, by the unacceptability of nato expansion near its borders repeatedly calling those red line. but freedom will upset the really was absolutely right, because we all know that the word and ukraine behind it was the desire of nato to expand the territory at the expense of ukraine. to be honest, the same thing happened to, in 2008 in georgia. we're all know that need to expansion is unacceptable to russia . that's is,

if the neighbors do not understand the depth of their neighbor security system, then why should not expect all the results from the neighbor? because neighbors should be treated to it's great to understand in georgia, had shared security with russia. the same thing happened with ukraine made his approach to russia's board, as everyone knows all over the world that this was absolutely unacceptable for russia to move forward. so that the, that everyone understood how this would and interest and the world with russia was naturally more the body of the west. therefore, the prime minister spoke briefly. but to the point there must be no cease fire in ukraine. that's what a you chief sort of on demand is advocating out ordering and all gearing. i should say that any truce would be damaging for kia together with ukraine. we want a just peace a ceasefire resulting in