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the analysis also revealed that the vast majority of thing tags referenced by american media are directly or in directly profiting from the military spending and the nation's involvement in the ukraine conflict. the research also pointed out they regularly pushed solutions that are beneficial for the us industrial, military complex, international consultant, earl ross mason said the analysis of the groups was in no way biased, their perception, their view point, a recommendation on, on different things. that's why the government goes to refund them. they go to them for their acknowledgement. they expect policy papers the written in such a way and, and they are, is it bias? does it? does it leave out information? do they selectively decide what information they're analyzing? absolutely. you know, there's, there's been analysis done by organizations,
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non profit that, that you know how to contain rush or recommendations on, do we go with a long war or long conflict in your brain or not as its beneficial to the us? is it not? for the most part the a lot of the recommendations will tom and they're looking for your firm kinda recommendations step by step things to do. and they want the position paper to alert media and public support as well. oftentimes they will align in general and maybe get more specifics on policy or for certain the entities within the govern. that's a rep for now, but coming up, it's getting more and more difficult and even dangerous for journalists and dissidence to cover wars and political issues from a standpoint that contradicts the establishment. more on the discussion with independent journalist, patrick lancaster, i'm covering the dumbass next on the what's the floor, thanks for joining me to save us the
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the the the . 2 2 escalates the ancient greek tragedy and said that quote,
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in more truth is the 1st casualty and quote and for world almost constantly at war for more than a century. now truth is indeed often difficult to come by. that's why many of us turn to independent journalist for news, and even for them, their work is sometimes more difficult to carry out because the powers that be tried to defend them, the platform them, and silence them. i'm john kerry. ok, welcome to the whistle blowers the our guest today has the on enviable task of being a war reporter working for himself. that's right. he doesn't report to any news agency. and indeed, he's known as the world's only crowd funded war. corresponded patrick lancaster is a former member of the us navy, specializing in cryptography on the us. as katy hawk with an interest in journalism, he moved to ukraine in 2014. to cover the my don revolution. he settled and done
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yet later that year. and has remained ever since covering developments during slow times and hot war. his work frequently appears in russian news outlets, but he has also become a prominent contributor to youtube and other platforms. patrick, welcome to the show. we're happy to have, you know, thanks for having me. i appreciate it. let's start at the beginning. you are one of the very few journalist who has been in the done bass almost for the duration of the conflict. what have you seen from your time in the field? tell us what it's lake there, but especially what it's like for the civilians in the area. i'm well yeah, i've been here since 2014, almost exactly 9 years now in about a week. it'll be exactly 9 years and before the that i was in crime. yeah. during this, these illusions there in the referendum um, but uh yeah,
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i came to uh, done yesterday after the referendum in uh uh, crowded me up because i wanted to continue to try to show what was really happening even though i didn't speak any russian at the time and didn't really even know a lot about the political situation between russia and ukraine. but when i wished to cry me, uh, it was the 1st time i really saw how what was being shown in the west in the media wasn't really the, the reality of what was happening because i arrived in crimea just before the referendum. and it was expecting to see a russian soldiers um is forcing it people to go to the votes and really imposing the there will on the people without the people's permission. but when i got there, i saw how happy the, the people are, cried me, of the russian people of crime. you know, the vast majority was that russia was there and that they were having a chance to go back to russia because i mean,
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any person born it. but before the, the fifty's, it was born in crimea, was born in russia. mean, the premier was given to ukraine in the 50s, which a lot of the residents consider was an illegal turnover of the land to ukraine. but i mean, it's kind of a long winded answer, but eventually i, uh, it came in april of 2014 to done yet, and began to see how the people here were doing their best to try to break away from ukraine as well. because in my opinion, a lot of them saw what happened in crimea and they, they thought they had a chance to break away their land here and to join the brochure like it's currently a did. but unfortunately, it didn't quite turn out that it quick and easy for them. i'm as we all know a,
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this 9 year war developed after the protestors took control and they should basically put up the borders and ukrainian forces attacked them for that. and a kid for the last 9 years, continued to of bomb and shell residential areas. of course, there's a fighting between military's the in 2014 the locals. they developed somewhat of a red tag army at 1st. and as it basically consisted of unexperienced the miners farmers and just normal locals, but they were able to do it in the as time went on the uh, the infrastructure of the done yes, people's republic started to develop and become more of a real country. i mean, i,
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over the years i saw their, their government and their military force, they just become more and more professional. and all of this isn't this time was happening with the local population, just praying that one day they would become a part of russia. i mean, this is the fact is what the western mainstream media won't tell you, is that it for the last 9 years and these 2 regions, the people have just been trying their best. it's been by this to have been done yet. for luke honest reason. we're trying your best to break away from the ukraine and even in variable we hear all this about the bell and variable in 2014. there was a referendum in variable and variable shows that they wanted to break away from ukraine, but ukraine, it came in and forced their laws and their borders back on variables. and it just let the same happen in crime, a tourist lobbyist. and i was in chrome of doors to when ukraine it came in at 2014
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july i was standing there in, in, in the square as ukraine came in and took control again of the city of the crime, a tourist i've met so many people there that were happy that ukraine was gone and when we saw the ukraine was coming back in the the done yes, people's republic forces had withdrawn. people were crying in the streets. is that the, their chance of joining rush or at least being away from ukraine was gone. and during these last 9 years, i've seen that does and hundreds of dozens, but hundreds of civilian homes. it hits by the ukrainian attacks. and these aren't necessarily an accident. i mean, these are just random attacks on civilian of neighborhoods. just a few days ago. this is all posted on my telegram channel. i. you came to a location where ukraine had dropped, what they call in tell you
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a change minds. and particularly if they're called a tier 2 and there were given to ukraine by the german, the military, and they call them anti it tank lines. but really their answer, whatever it touches them. and just days ago, you create a lost them on the neighborhood of october sky, not far from the done yet, the airport. and they came down and one exploded and ripped through the legs of an elderly man, tearing his legs off. we lived just long enough to set it to sit up and to be taken to the hospital and died on the way to the hospital. and just moments after she left them in the ambulance on the other side of the building. another one of these anti change minds went off and ripped through one of the legs of an elderly woman. and luckily she survived and was taken to the hospital. i actually went to the
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hospital today and had a talk with the assistant director of the hospital. and luckily she looks like she's going to make it. but these are just just one example of time and time again that ukraine fires on civilian areas and particularly with western nato supplied weapons. i mean, there's no reason that a western supply, the weapon should be used on civilian areas, but it happens over and over and over again. we're talking everything from the 155 millimeter shows that the us is supplied to the high mars rock at the us supplying these are all these western supplied weapons that i've seen? many, i'm just my own eyes and filled and documented. the evidence is on my channel of these western, the weapons being used on the civilians of these areas just over and over again. and that kind of gives overview of what,
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what i've seen. but as an all of my reports, i tell the people show to watch my reports, but also watch things on the other side of the line. because on the other side of the line, on the key upside, there's thousands of journalists given reports in english for on this side there's not too many. so i just do my best to show what the situation is here and then be can keep people can watch as much information as possible and make their own decisions on the opinions they want to make. here in the united states, the alternative media have at least tried to educate americans on what the as of battalion is. but the mainstream media either ignores as of or presents or false history of the organization. tell us about what the as a battalion is, how it started and where you've encountered it. well, the battalion is a battalion that has been around since it leave 2014, middle and low before but basically i try to, in my reports, i try to show exactly what i've seen. and let's go from that to the,
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the last part of your question. what i've seen of the, as of the time, is my 1st day in marry people almost exactly a year ago just under a year ago when i went in during the heat of the bell, i found a basement of a school. it was school number 25 in mary apple where we went down and discovered that it was it just maybe a day or 2 before was being used as a base by the as of the tide, we found the euclidean uniforms as of patches, different types of patches and it we saw burned out, the weapons and guns that they, it appeared that they had burned these guns, so they wouldn't fall into the hands of the russians or the 30th people's public forces. and as we went through this base, we came up to an opening. everything was very dark, but we came to this opening where there was some light coming into the basement. and this again, this was a basement of a school school number 25. it could be looked up on the map and, and we,
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we found a woman laying dead on the ground. the naked head was a little bit covered up in a close, but not totally. and it was clear that she had been raped and tortured. she had a plastic bag over her head and kind of covered in blood. and she had a swastika carved on her, the stomach and bloody. and this clearly appeared to be as all the forces took disability it into their base. and to begin this step base of this school, the basement of the school and raped and tortured this young woman in the car is swastika on her stomach. and in mary well, there's many reports of things like this. i mean it's,
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it was quite an emotional time going from place to place of variable and seeing so many civilians killed. i is seeing a hospital where there was hundreds of dead bodies. some of the women had their hands tied. and so many reports from what the locals were telling me that the as of a battalion was shooting civilians as they tried to evacuate. no, i didn't see that with myself just as what this is just what the civilians told. but i did see this, this woman with a swastika carved in her stomach in the basement of the school that the as what was using as a base and what you even made it gets worse if it's even possible. is that just weeks after i broke the story of this woman that was tortured and killed and raped by the edge of battalion um, the, the, the assistant of litski, the ukranian president,
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put out the photo of my report. as well as several of the deputies from ukraine that this woman was from boucher and it was russian atrocities. and it was the queue is the russians of torturing this, a woman near the key of in the cube region. and it got picked up by different western media sources and still to this day, you can find these reports for the western media, saying that the a, the russians is tortured this woman and carved a slush the corner just having this photo. but in reality, this photo came from mary opal in the basement. other school that was it, as of the time just totally was coming from the premium government about situations like this. and there are many situations like this where they totally use the ukranian war crimes and try to turn it around against russia. the end of the fact
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is that, of course, in any war on any sort of line, there's so many people involved. there's more crimes on each side of every war old going back to desert storm iraq war and beyond. but the fact is, when it happens, the government shouldn't be lying about it. the ukraine government should have accepted this war crime and done something to try to bring the people to justice instead of lying about what it, what it happened. i'm curious to know patrick the reaction of people in the done best to what we see here in the united states. ukrainian president zalinski is greeted in washington for example, as a conquering hero. he addresses a joint session of congress. he addresses the academy awards ceremony. there are even an action figures of the landscape for sale in toy stores. how do people in the done bass view, the way the united states and the west view the conflict? well, i can tell you um i just moments ago, half an hour ago,
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film the reports on the reactions of the locals here and done yet in the sooner city of finland, joining russia or excuse me, joining nato and ask them what they thought about the situation and particularly what they would say to the lives if they had a chance and the beat. and this is what i do with a lot of my reports, i try to get the opinions of what they would say to is order to keep a bargain. and uh uh, uh, put them as well and the vast majority virtually, oh, um the most common thing is that they say about the lift gate is that they hate him . and the most common thing that they say about or putting is they thank you and they hope he helps more to protect them here. um, so it basically from what you see in the west to what the real situation here is on the ground of done boss as far as the baton with the of the people is totally chris,
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it's night and day. i mean, the fact is, the people here on the ground consider themselves russian and want to be part of russia and want to have nothing to do with ukraine. use of the facts here on the ground, at least in the done yet can look on the republics. we're speaking with independent journalist, patrick lancaster. we're going to take a short break and continue on with our conversation. so please stay to the. 2 2 2 2 the, the total is the aggressor today i'm authorized with additional strong sanctions. today russia was the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that is constantly growing. but i think the pitch of the thing
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is just click on the usage and we see more than the way we shift for banning all in portion of russian oil and gas in energy suffering the price for another country. hope all's well. we're gonna strip the phone service involved, the little joe bites in, imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there is a boomerang the the welcome back to the whistle blowers. i'm john kerry onto we're speaking with independent journalist, patrick lancaster, who has spent much of the past year, much of the past many years, reporting from the don bass. patrick, thanks again for being with us. one of the things that we've heard rumblings about here in the united states is the lack of accountability within the ukrainian
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government for the massive numbers of weapons. and during that country from the united states and the rest of nato. we've also seen reports that many of these weapons have quickly found their way to the black market. what have you seen? well, from the get go of last year, even before the before what the, what is called the, the special operations a bike or russia before even before that i saw the western weapons being used on the, the civilian infrastructure of the done. yes, it particularly last january, just before this all escalated, i saw it registered and i believe it was, it's 60 millimeter. you are the mortars used on an electric substation. and since then, of course, the amount of weapons that have been supplied to ukraine has increased quite a bit. so now it's almost,
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it's more time to see the western supplied weapons than it is. any soviet area weapons, daily, $155.00 millimeter rounds that's supplied by the west, particularly benighted states. has it been dropped on the civilian areas here? done yes. and the lot to look on scary a, and many other civilian areas. i mean, this is a fact, it, of course, i've filmed the high mars it all coming down on many areas is civilian areas. and of course, there with the amount of increase of western supplied weapons. there are also weapons that have been supplied by the west, but they are now under control of russia. and because when russia moves in and ukraine evacuate, russia takes these western supplied weapons and then use them back against the ukraine. this is something that's very pretty common as well,
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particularly the javelins. uh, and many other types of weapons. now that the, the more jets and tanks are being supplied by your brain, i think it's just e or excuse me, is supplied by the west to your great. i think it's just a matter of time before we see the, the russian forces using these jets in tanks against the ukraine forces. and even before that, we're going to see a lot of the western supply tanks and jets being destroyed. patrick, what do you think is the ultimate destination for these weapons? in the case of syria, many of the weapons provided by the united states to its courtesy allies there ended up being used in the fighting and libya. this isn't anything new and there don't seem to be any controls, wants to weapons arrive. what's your bit, what's been your experience? well, i mean, as far as to what's gonna happen down the road and as far as the,
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the black market years can't really. and i haven't seen any of this with my own eyes besides the fact, as i said, the weapons getting used back in, in the hands of the russian forces. i mean, so that's pretty something that's pretty common for the last year. is the weapons being used against ukraine, the but as far as a black market sales can't really come into like a lot on that. but the situation is that a lot of these weapons are going from the hands of the ukrainians. right into the hands of the russians to be used against the ukraine. like many americans, i read the washington post the new york times and the wall street journal. every morning. i like to think that i'm educated enough and worldly enough to recognize bias reporting when i see it. so i take what i read with a grain of salt. you're an american. tell us what isn't being reported from the
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region in the american media. well, in 2014, when the president john of co, which was kicked out of office after my time being accused of mass slaughter of protesters and the locals here in the east, viewed him as their presidents. and that is that he was ousted without their permission. and then the new president, whoever knew government, that's it. most of the residents here looked at as the that was placed by united states. and this new governments moved right away to legalize russian holidays and the russian language being taught in public schools. and for this, for the size of the country, for the epic russians that live here who speak russian uh in the, the, the russian holidays. it's like in the united states, if you would lose legalize independence day. yeah. how,
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how they would react. i mean, it's just with the and not being taught your, your language in school. it just, it just a couple of examples would just be unbelievable. and they realized that there ukraine was dead and it wasn't anymore. their president was gone. and what was left of their twisted ukraine is trying to push out the russian culture. and they decided we're not going to have this. we're going to break away. like we're going to joined russia like crime, you know, did, and they moved, protest, have it all the government buildings got taken over. a lot of them were taken over with peacefully. i use my 1st one that i saw was the main police station have done bus here done yet, where a protest but pro 5000 or more protesters came and totally peaceful military teams that we're not going to fight the people, take the pay to building and it because everyone, here's russia,
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they rush and they have the same ideas. everybody in 2014, basically one of the same thing to break away from ukraine and joined russia. they just thought it was gonna happen a lot quicker than it did. and unfortunately, a lot of people died and are still dying every day. but the people here are still pushing as hard as they can do, stay part of russia and have a better life for their children. patrick lancaster, you are one of the, very few, perhaps the only crowd funded independent journalist working anywhere in the world . and certainly the only one working and a major war zone. where can our viewers learn more about the work that you do? well i, so i've put up my reports and updates so many platforms. my name is a youtube you could look find me just by searching patrick lancaster or patrick lancaster news today. 1 you can also find me on twitter at it appealed news
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today and of course, rumble and odyssey and telegram, i have both a russian and english language telegram and my children's also, patrick lancaster. there were a lot of my shorter updates it get posted if it doesn't come to be a full report on my youtube channel. um, but youtube is definitely a good place to find me. and you can find how to support my work in a nearby videos on youtube as well. the we have the links and the description and the comments. i'd like to thank our guests, patrick lancaster for being with us. and thanks to our viewers for tutoring in marie coles and the courageous british journalist killed in syria in 2012 said quote, it has always seemed to me that what i write about is humanity in extremis, push to the uninsurable, and that it is important to tell people what really happens in war and quote for
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