in order to not send people in there and to remotely do what they need to do. now when we talk about artificial intelligence, it's a little bit more complex because a, i, as the technology is, has to work with a lot of data. and a lot of information to learn about the terrain, to learn about maneuvering, to learn about a 100000000000 things in order to work successfully. and that is where technology comes in play. that is where a deep learning machine learning concepts come into play. and those things will be done by the companies that produce technology that produce a lot of some companies. i mean, we can talk about technology companies that are out there in the world, starting from a google microsoft. alibaba. i've been throw, you got hundreds of millions of companies that are doing incredible work and not naming just any one of them. but everybody who's developing a, i is a contribution to, to the future of warfare. anybody who's remotely developing even any

a niche solutions with an a i is going to be a part computer to, to the future of why it's just like, just like office productivity. if you look at computers and operating systems and tools, you use our computers and our cellphones and smartphones. we have different types of smartphones. we have different apps, just like you know, different app providers for smartphones. you'll have a technology providers that'll specialize in specific things that will be used by it. definitely. and, and in war yeah, general dynamics certainly comes to mind with their wildly human like robots. they're playing a big role in the future of warfare, aren't they? and so general's an image is one of the companies that's yes, of course, operating in, in, in this industry. and, you know, their technology is not just there's, they're looking at the broader world. they're looking at other checks that's out there. i mean, when you look at robotics is it's not necessary now that future robots that are in

a battle field look like humans. it's not necessary for them to be that right because they're essentially a killing machine. but when it comes to maybe, uh, you know, being more channels, flies looking like a human or, or what have you there. yes. you know, you could have someone looking like a robots out there right now. robotics is that a very interesting place at a very exciting phase, generally in the world. and of course, data and war is one of the applications. but humanoid looking robots have been becoming popular. you know, we started with that. there was a robot called us of the a few years ago that the world was fascinated that i'm talking 5 years ago. i flew, were fascinated with associates, a robot. but now you have other things such as boston. they met the damage that was bought by google. you have a media very human looking robot, and others that are now going to be that are now going to inspire this generation

of robots. that just means like humans that can do things like humans, take up objects of data, need bombs and what have you. so, so there's a lot happening within robotics and it's not just the war. it's not just going out in the battlefield. but just all of those things associated with a situation like a war where maybe you need to rescue people where you need to go on a recon mission where you need to maybe have a disaster that's happening in turkey as, as the earthquake and so on. so bodies generally is changing fast, and i think we're headed in for an exciting, an interesting time when it comes to utilizing technology. gina, the upper upper hand technology companies are going to play a big part in all of this. coming up next, p t s d has affected thousands of soldiers who saw combat 1st hands. but now even soldiers who never set foot on the battlefield,

save their sufferings. find out how next we'll discuss it with in con when we return to type the m. o will be right back the of the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. we're so charters at conflict with the 1st law. should we live in justification? we should be very careful about our professional intelligence. the point obviously, is to create a trust rather than to the area. i mean with artificial intelligence, we have somebody in the team and the

most protect this phone existence was on the i really thought that we were going to die. i crawled all the way to the right. and then i hid behind the years before i was even born and business has continued to stick with the system. basically we want to make sure that certain dangerous for regular civilian should

be in the hands of those people who are in state. that's for sake nowhere the the welcome back to the m o i manila chant. so there's a new kind of p t s d taking shape from soldiers who have virtual blood on their hands. well, more technology on the battlefield, absolved them of this trauma or just make the cost of war that much greater a futurist and tech expert in con is still with us. so in, because a i and economist systems are so expensive and hard to develop. only west. well, the western countries primarily include in the us, um, or we can say china,

the u e, the saudis, and so forth. i mean, they all have them. but does that necessarily mean conventional warfare is over, or is there a possibility that human fighters, rebel groups soldiers can fight back against what some might describe as a tech tyranny by the rich. so technology is primarily being developed in the rest. and we're talking about the developed countries and merrick, uh, china, a big, big, big creator and, and uh, these for research for emerging check off france, germany, u. k. i name it the, the advanced company of countries are, have, have the resources, they have the institutions, they have the infrastructure to go about and do research. and it's not just creating the happens and having factories that, that,

that can be veterinary. but it's really about access to technology licensing that technology. oh, naturally, many companies and providers within, within the security industry are based out of these countries because of ease of manufacturing and so on my tank manufacturers or a fighter jet manufacturers, they're very selective places where these, these things are being produced. and so we have to look at that, the infrastructure piece of it, when it comes to other countries that purchase arms, that purchase safety, security equipment that's used in battle that's used to protect their countries, from threats and so on. everybody's a buyer, everybody who has how the economy from india to us single for to uh, you know, finland, uh everybody who's there who wants to have the edge they have for joining. that's and read their, procuring all kinds of weapons. and so it really depends on what's a, what's your plan,

what kind of an active war state are you in right now and how much of a priority for your nation is spending on war? for example, america spend trillions of dollars in the past couple of decades when it comes to war. and they have invested heavily into, you know, for turing new new rep and be and so on. when it comes to the middle east, everybody's a buyer. when it comes to asia, everybody's a live buyer. china is of course a producer and a very big producer consumer, a buyer of arms in general. so you know what? it's, it's all over the place. it's everywhere in the world as far as buyers, everywhere. there's a few sellers off off the technology, and those are primarily in the best we throw around the term killer robots pretty loosely. but when we're talking about the future of warfare, it has to include intelligence collection data and so forth. so we're not only talking about, you know, terminator 2 movie characters, we're talking about spyware, eyes in the sky,

listening technology. what does that realm of tech look like these days? how are these tech companies collecting intelligence? that's then being shared with agencies like the pencil gone, the c a or, and my 6 also big question, who's collecting what information? uh, we really can't tell you really can't tell because that's literally she didn't behind the walls of and so many layers of, of, of, of, or, you know, or the unknown. well, we can tell is that the world today is powered by data as it has never been before . right? data plays a crucial role in everything that we do from, you know, watching out of your house and driving to your work and working and doing, and being contracted, or just assign a to bind the house, travelling in anything and everything is dictated by data in the in recent years we've heard about big data and, and a bunch of those terms that are used in social media. but that's another part of a type of data that's emerging. now i mentioned the smart tvs and cognitive cities

earlier, and that's where a lot more data and information is being generated on a daily basis. for example, if you take a flight from new york to london, that's like that aircraft a generate about 10 gigabytes of data in that slight approximately. and that data is then used to analyze like patterns and efficiency and so on. so even our aircraft a generating so much data these days of utilizing data of any time to do something specific is not new. and when it comes to, you know, a war and espionage and listening technology has generally improved and, and scaled a lot. uh, you know, not talking about hardware, but talking about the software side of things. you can now have analysis of audio or video or you can enhance it like never before. and what is also happening is

that, um, you know, generate even a i, where were deep seats are now emerging, where you can seek being a person speak being, uh, you know, sounding like a specific person. that does want to play a crucial role in espionage and, and, and misinformation and this information in the future. and so, oh, there's so many layers of it and so many different ways you can analyze it. but uh, things are becoming creepy and tricky. at the same time when it comes to the usage of information. um, you know, i reminds me off of the tv series black mirror that had a few seasons a day or 2 years ago. it's, it's intriguing how information is being used would be used potentially in the future. so show, based on future scenarios off of what the world could be. and so i'd highly recommend your viewers watching it. oh, yeah we, we know that home products like amazon's. alexa can listen in on your home conversations. anyone with nefarious goals can tap into innocent products and,

and use that for an ethical purposes. which leads to my next question actually in terms of ethics of a ton of his weapons. what does that really mean, or what does it look like to someone in your field? is it, is it even possible to program technology, to say, recognize the difference between an enemy combatant versus a civilian who perhaps as such a similar description and how they look. i mean, how do you prevent that guy from being killed instead of this guy over here? so when we talk about ethical e, i it's, it's a field that's very under developed right now. there's a huge amount of bias. a with an e i n a i, systems, irrespective of all the work that's being incredible work that's being done to develop a i, we still are not able to tell a i r e i itself is not able to go out there and,

and figure out the good from the bad. see a artificial intelligence systems work on training data. they work on a lot of information that is fed into a system of the systems program to algorithms, to learn different things that are happening to them, that data and make relationships between the data and to design based on the algorithm and action it and outcomes. when it comes to ethically, i how you program that data and what data you provide and how you design the algorithm is where bias comes in. and when it comes to war, uh, if you are programming ai systems that will be using economists. definitely and, and machines, it's very difficult to not have bias in there and, and, and the computers they're there, they don't have feelings. they don't have any of that. they don't have a conscious. it's very difficult to create ethics in, in a, i, in the battery,

and then send that out to war. i mean, right now it's honestly impossible to be able to determine, you know, i don't know if it's a friendly or if it's a threat because we're just not there in movies and hollywood blockbusters, everything goes great. and there's all kinds of technology doing it. but know this is a big gray area. this is a very scary thought that the technology will be as it goes, we've had examples off of a i going route in the, in, in many cases. and all the information is out there in the public domain where multiple people, hundreds and thousands of people have been killed because of the wrong strikes. i and people and women and children and innocent people have been killed of thousands and thousands of the last 20 years off of work. very few look at it so. so my take is no, it's there's, there's none of our ethics going in there right now. it's a field that's very severely under under developed and know it's a great area for,

for the next many years. all right, here's a philosophical one for you. in the past, in the early 2, thousands, we'll call it drone warfare was basically being introduced by the g w bush era. and it's uses only expanded ever since then massively, under brock obama. and then we saw a number of draws operators coming forward with stories of a new kind of p t s d. so to prevent this, the advancement of smart drones have really come a long way in just the last 10 years. but ultimately, it is still programmed and traced back to a human right. so can be human creators, those who punch in the coordinates, etc, ever truly be absolved in the feeling like they took part in kelly. i think anyone who's involved in war had, has to really make that choice. anybody who's involved in, i don't know,

projecting their, their country from that has to really be free, invested and know what it entails when it comes to a drone operators or remain a remote autonomy or a ton of equipment operators. i think that that human element is always there when it comes to killing people and you know, you know, more or in a battle, be able to destroy cities and destroy villages and so on. and you're, you're an operator of the equipment, then you're part of it, right? you can't ignore the fact that your participant on, on many levels to what is happening on the ground. so i don't think human skin to the absolve themselves from saying that or doing or, or saying i have nothing to do with this. this is the machine that did it. no, it's not. you know, uh everybody who was part of that process is involved. and so we have to acknowledge that, and you mentioned to us the sports, there's a, there's a severe negative side to it. we're seeing, you know, oh,

soldiers who've gone in to battle or has been part of that, their stories and merge. there's movies being made on that, and many of those things are emerging. it has a negative, it has a huge negative side on the people were operating this machinery. and while they might do it during the war and during battle, and during the times there need it. but it definitely has been shown to have a huge impact. and we can go back 25 years. look at all the wars that have been off slots from the gulf war to those and began to stand a new rock and so on. and those stories off of, oh are, are out there. all right, futurist and emerging tech expert ian con. thank you so much for that insight today . and as we can see in a perfect world, future wars wouldn't be bloodless for both soldiers and civilians. a like, they'd be exacting, able to only get the bad guys. but we don't live in

a perfect world, and technology just isn't there yet. for now, the advancement in warfare tech only seems to be expanding the amount of blood that is shed for people on the receiving end of a wealthy nations technological advances. that is going to do it for this week's episode, modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy. i'm your host manila. chad, thanks for 2. and again, we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the,

the ukraine's military suffers a reported dispute in the fail defensive on the, on yes, front, with russian official. thank you have last at least 300 soldiers and dozens of military vehicles also ahead it would have taken more than just one round to deal this type of damage. if you were to pick just around the corner, you can see that the fire is still raging on the ruins of what used to be someone's home. several russian border towns faced intense shelving by ukrainian forces which civilians force to evacuate to a nearby regions. and india moves forward after one of the deadliest trained

crashes and its history, which leaves at least $275.00 dead, and more than $1000.00 injured as operations resumed on the now repair trucks are 2 spoke with people still struggling to find their relatives i have looked someone sweet brother in at least 20 hospital for 3 months who is having found him. what do i do? the russian red cross completes the 2nd humanitarian mission in syria, delivering tons of humanitarian aid to those affected by this year's earthquakes are key speaks to the missions had became difficult in the evening when everything was over. then there was the fatigue of the number of people whose feelings and emotions you were letting through, lifting their situations to agree that complains their problems all through the

just after 4 pm in moscow. this is our t international with the latest world news updates. i'm fairly, isabel. glad to have you join us. the enemy has failed to break through russian defences. that's according to russia's defense ministry after the nation's forces successfully repelled a large scale ukrainian offensive on sunday along 5 parts of the southern town, yet front. june. 4th, the enemy made an unsuccessful attempt at a large scale offensive southern don't ask 6 mobile units of ukrainian armed forces and 2 tank battalions were involved in the settlements of this glitch. no, you don't ask republic and nobody is up. what was your reason? most of the military forces air strikes and artillery fire inflicted heavy losses on the on a minute. let's discuss this issue live with correspondent my is shar welcome.

oh my nice to see you. so what can you tell us? are the latest updates on the situation. now the ministry of defense of russia has just shown us the losses that you queen has suffered through overnight with 307 of of up to 300 surface mess. 16 tanks, 26 army combat vehicles and 14 vehicles completely destroyed earlier on monday, ukrainian forces have attacked russian troops in a 5 sections of the front lines in done boss. zalinski has also said on saturday that key was completely ready for the counter offensive and has even said that the military of the country could not wait any longer to just attack. but however, the very same day the deputy head of ukraine has said that the country has not received enough weapons. this with, it just shows us that it seems like the culture offensive is not going as one. now they've been talking about this kind of or offensive for months has the was said

anything had a reaction to these botched counter offensive attempts. now it is really hard to miss the us reactions from this, right. the us, top of specials, have shown their proxy word tactics in ukraine with kit, with herbs and keep to take vital territories from russia. now, we must also mention the billions of aid in dollars that in the us has sent to ukraine. and to this day, there's still and countless occasions have said that they will not stop sending a to ukraine until they see a russian defeat. well, we want to do a support ukraine to make as much progress as possible on the battlefield. so that it is in the strongest possible position at the negotiating table. and we do believe that this counter offensive will allow ukraine to take strategically significant territory back from russia areas occupied by russia that are rightfully suffering ukrainian territory. now taking into consideration the billions of

dollars as you mentioned, flowing into ukraine all the while failing on the battlefield. has any of kids, allies, race, any concerns? now we have bill is jim who is investigating after belgian made rifles were reported to be used by pro ukrainian groups in a fighting against the russian forces inside russian territory in belgrade. european weapons. so to leave it to ukraine, under the condition that they all use the new current territory. with the purpose of defending that territory, we have treat controls in place to see that this is the case. to know or so has also denied connections with the callers volunteer corps, which was a group that was involved in the attacks in the belgrade region. and according to some reports, us made antique tank system was found in the hands of mexican drug cartels. now you

may ask, how did that even happen? well, according to these reports, the members of the cocktail have said that they bought them from the key regime, which apparently offered them. now, the, as it seems like the weapons to ukraine, keep on increasing the west keeps on sending their weapons to ukraine, and that is, according to the russian press. secretary dmitri pasco, who was also touched upon the supply from germany and france of missiles with over 500 kilometer range. now, how far this counter offensive will go? we don't really know as t if s p of has stated before, that it wants to restore the 1991 orders which include not only the dunk bus and has sun regions, but also crimea. we also know that the kremlin has in front of a red line when it comes to crimea, and that in the tax on crimea will mean, and the tax on the russian federation as a full with russia, with russia reaction accordingly. now,

so far restoring these 1991 borders that key of one seems nothing more then keeps pipe dream. i'm sure we'll be hearing a lot more. archie corresponded with my a shar thank you. my ukraine's use of nato supply weapons inside of russia has raise questions. from its western patrons earlier, we spoke to geo political analyst and former us marine brian ber letter. who said that belgium's reaction is just a way of opting out from his proxy war the most was entirely predictable. belgium is just, i think, of providing slip service. this could be a good protects for them to remove themselves from participation in this proxy conflict. but overall, this was very predictable. these extreme is that for crossing over to russian territory into the builder of these are nazis. nazis have been a problem in ukraine from 2014 onwards. and this is a problem with the u. s. c, u k. and the you were well aware of. they know about this and the,

their continuous support for you probably means continuous support for these extremists, these are the type of operations you would see at the beginning of a larger offensive. we just have to wait and see because of this could also just be recognizance in for us time will tell us, far as the incursions into belgrade or by, by these nazi extremis. so i think this really was a distraction from you kind of losing box fluids and i think what we're seeing between this the drone attacks across russia. i think this is the transition from ukraine's inability to perform on the battlefield there. transitioning toward a more terrorist oriented posture, i think the west is very determined to support your crime, no matter what the outcome is, of the offense of maybe some individual nation say, and you can die the new york in union. they may use this as an excuse to cut off support, but i think overall the west will continue supporting them. well, cabs a parent counter offensive is under way this week. ukraine intensified,

it's showing of civilian areas in other parts of russia with the city of border of caught in the don. yes republic reportedly hit by 30 ukrainian rockets leaving 3 people injured. another attack also struck. pardon me, a meanwhile, the russian town of should beacon new located close to the border has been reported at least child again after several days of attacks by ukrainian forces. as local speed up evacuation efforts are teasing or start off reports from the ground. this used to be a prosperous, flourishing city of some 40000 people. now it's a ghost town. the

this place is a typical soviet era apartment block building. it would have taken more than just one round to deal this type of damage. if you were to pick just around the corner, you can see that the fire is still raging on the ruins of what used to be someone's home. it's streets deserted every once in a while, an old ca speeds past us. while some civilians have stayed and the overwhelming majority of the locals have chosen to escape to safe places and much on the to the street, the house shakes at night. every thing shakes and that's why everyone here is trying to leave. people are scared children, and elderly people. there's nothing else to say other than we're frightened. i left last sunday. we made it.