and tools use our computers in our cell phones and smartphones. we have different types of smartphones. we have different apps, just like, you know, different app providers for smartphones. you'll have e, i technology providers that'll specialize in specific things that will be used by definitely and uh, and in war. yeah, general dynamics certainly comes to mind with their wildly human like robots. they're playing a big role in the future of warfare, aren't they? and so generally damage is one of the companies that's yes of course, operating in, in, in this industry. and, you know, their technology is not just there's, they're looking at the broader world. they're looking at other check that's out there. i mean, when you look at robotics it's, it's not necessary now that future robots that are in a battle field look like humans. it's not necessary for them to be that right because they're essentially a chilling machine. but when it comes to maybe, uh,

you know, being more channels, flies looking like a human or, or what have you there. yes. you know, you could have someone looking like a robot out there. right now, robotics is that a very interesting place at a very exciting phase, generally in the world. and of course, battle and war is one of the applications. but schumann, toys looking robots have been becoming popular. you know, we started with that. there was a robot called us of the a few years ago that the world was fascinated that i'm talking 5 years ago. we were fascinated with associates a robot, but now you have other things such as boston. they met the damage that was bought by google. you have a media very human looking robot and others that are now going to be that are now going to inspire this generation of robots that didn't move like humans, that you do. uh, seems like humans pick up objects of data, need bombs and what have you so, so there's a lot happening within robotics and it's not just the war. it's not just going out

in the battlefield. but just all of those things associated with a situation like a war where maybe you need to rescue people where you need to go on a recon mission where you need to maybe have a disaster that's happened in turkey as, as the earthquake and so on. so everybody's generally is changing fast, and i think we're headed in very exciting an interesting time when it comes to utilizing technology. gina, the upper upper hand of technology companies are going to play a big part in all of this. coming up next, p t s d has affected thousands of soldiers who saw combat 1st hands. but now even soldiers who never set foot on the battlefield, say they're suffering. find out how next we'll discuss it with in con when we return the type, the m. o will be right back the

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political and corruption scandals. but all the students don't know the thing in candidate status in 2022. the welcome back to the m o i manila chance. so there's a new kind of p t s d taking shape from soldiers who have virtual blood on their hands. well, more technology on the battlefield, absolved them of this trauma or just make the cost of war that much greater a futurist and tech expert in con is still with us. so in, because a i and economist systems are so expensive and hard to develop. only west. well, the western countries primarily include in the us, um, or we can say china,

the u a e, the saudis, and so forth. i mean, they all have them. but does that necessarily mean conventional warfare is over, or is there a possibility that human fighters revel group soldiers? can they fight back against what some might describe as a tech tyranny by the rich? so technology is primarily being developed in the rest and we're talking about the developed countries and merrick, uh, china, a big, big, big creator and, and uh, these for research for emerging tech, france, germany, u. k. a name it the, the advanced company of countries are, have, have the resources, they have the institutions, they have the infrastructure to go about and do research. and it's not just creating the happens and having factories that, that, that can be weaponry. but it's really about access to technology licensing that

technology. oh, naturally many companies and providers within, within the security industry are based out of these countries because of ease of manufacturing and so on like tank manufacturers or a fighter jet manufacturers. they're very selective places where these, these things are being produced. and so we have to look at that, the infrastructure piece of it, when it comes to other countries that purchase arms that purchase safety, st. george, the equipment that's used in battle that's used to protect their countries, from threats and so on. everybody's a buyer, everybody who has how the economy from india to us, singapore, to, uh, you know, finland, uh everybody who's there who wants to have the edge there for joining veterans. reed there for doing all kinds of happens. and so it really depends on what's a, what's your plan, what kind of an active war state are you in right now and how much of

a priority for your nation is spending on war? for example, america spend trillions of dollars in the past couple of decades when it comes to war. and they have invested heavily into, you know, for turing new new rep in be and so on. when it comes to the middle east, everybody's a buyer. when it comes to asia, everybody's a light buyer. china is of course a producer and a very big producer consumer, a buyer of arms in general. so you know what? it's, it's all over the place. it's everywhere in the world as buyers, buyers, everywhere. there's a few sellers off of the technology, and those are primarily in the best we throw around the term killer robots pretty loosely. but when we're talking about the future of warfare, it has to include intelligence collection data and so forth. so we're not only talking about, you know, terminator 2 movie characters, we're talking about spyware, eyes in the sky,

listening technology. what is that realm of? tak, look like these days. how are these tech companies collecting intelligence? that's then being shared with agencies like the pencil gone, the sienna, yay, are. and my 6 also big question, who's collecting what information? uh, we really can't tell you really can't tell because that's literally hidden behind the walls of and so many layers of, of, of, of, you know, the unknown. what we can tell is that the world today is powered by data as it has never been before, right. data plays a crucial role in everything that we do from, you know, watching out of your house and driving to your work and working and doing and being contributor just to cite a, to buying a house, travelling in anything. and everything is dictated by data in the, in recent years we've heard about big data and, and a bunch of those terms that are used in social media. but, but that's another part of the type of data that's emerging. now i mentioned the

smart tvs and cognitive cities already here, and that's where a lot more data and information is being generated on a daily basis. for example, if you take a flight from new york to london, that's like that aircraft a generates about 10 gigabytes of data in that slight approximately. and that data is then used to analyze like patterns and efficiency and so on. so even our aircraft a generating so much data these days of utilizing data of any kind to do something specific is not new. and when it comes to, you know, a war and espionage and listening technology has generally improved and scaled a lot. uh, you know, not talking about hardware, but talking about the software side of things. you can now have analysis of audio or video or you can enhance it like never before. and what is also happening is that, um, you know, generating the height of where were deep seats are now emerging,

where you can seek being a person seek, being, uh, you know, sounding like a specific person. that does want to play a crucial role in espionage and, and in misinformation and this information in the future. and so, oh, there's so many layers of it and so many different ways you can analyze it. but uh, things are becoming creepy and tricky. at the same time when it comes to the usage of information. um, you know, i reminds me off of the tv series black mirror that had a few seasons a day or 2 years ago. is it's intriguing how information is being used would be used potentially in the future. so show based on future scenarios off of the what the world could be. and so i'd highly recommend your viewers watching it. oh yeah we, we know that home products like amazon's alexa can listen in on your home conversations . anyone with nefarious goals can tap into innocent products and,

and use that for an ethical purposes. which leads to my next question actually in terms of ethics of a ton of his weapons. what does that really mean or what does it look like to someone in your field? is it, is it even possible to program technology, to say, recognize the difference between an enemy combatant versus a civilian who perhaps as such a similar description and how they look. i mean, how do you prevent that guy from being killed instead of this guy over here? so when we talked about ethical e, i it's, it's a field that's very under developed right now. there's a huge amount of bias, a with an e i n a i systems, irrespective of all the work that's being incredible work that's being done to develop the i, uh, we still are not able to, uh, count a i r e i itself is not able to go out there and,

and figure out the good from the bad c a r. there's an intelligence systems work on training data. they work on a lot of information that is fed into a system of the systems program to algorithms, to learn different things that are happening to them, that data and make relationships between the data and to decide based on the algorithm and action it and outcomes. when it comes to ethically, i, how you program that data and what data you provide and how you design the algorithm is where bias comes in. and when it comes to war, if you are programming ai systems that will be used, an economist event going to be and, and machines. it's very difficult to not have bias in there and, and, and the computers they're there, they don't have feelings. they don't have any of that. they don't have a conscious, it's very difficult to create ethics in, in a, i, in that and we, and then send that out to war. i mean,

right now it's honestly impossible to be able to determine, you know, you know, if it's a friendly or if it's a threat, because we're just not there in movies and hollywood blockbusters, everything goes great. and there's all kinds of technology doing it. but know this is a big gray area. this is a very scary saw at r e i. technology will be as it goes, we've had examples off of a i going road in the, in, in many cases. and all the information is out there in the public domain where multiple people, hundreds and thousands of people have been killed because of the wrong strikes. i and people and women, and children and innocent people have been killed of thousands and thousands or the last 20 years off of warfare if you look at it so. so my take is no, it's there's, there's none of our ethics going in there right now. it's a field that's very severely under, under develop and know it's a great area for,

for the next many years. all right, here's a philosophical one for you. in the past, in the early 2, thousands, we'll call it drone warfare was basically being introduced by the g w bush era. and it's uses only expanded ever since then massively, under brock obama. and then we saw a number of draws operators coming forward with stories of a new kind of p t s d. so to prevent this, the advancement of smart drones have really come a long way in just the last 10 years. but ultimately, it is still programmed and traced back to a human right. so can the human creators, those who punch in the coordinates, etc, ever truly be absolved in the feeling like they took part in killing or seeing anyone who was involved in war has to really make that choice. anybody who's

involved in, i don't know, projecting their, their country from threat has to really be free, invested and know what it entails when it comes to a drone operators or remain a remote economist or economist, equipment operators. i think that that human element is always there when it comes to of killing people and you know, in the war or in the battle, be able to destroy cities and destroy villages and so on. and you're, you're an operator of the equipment. then you're part of it, right? you can't ignore the fact that your participation on, on many levels to what is happening on the ground. so i don't think human skin to the absolve themselves from saying that or doing or, or saying i have nothing to do with this. this is the machine that did it. no, it's not. you know, uh everybody who's part of that process is involved. and so we have to acknowledge that, and you mentioned to us the sports, there's a, there's a severe negative side to it. we're seeing, you know, oh,

soldiers who've gone into battle or has been part of that, their stories in march. there's movies being made on that in many of those things are emerging, it has a negative, it has a huge negative side on the people were operating this machinery. and while they might do it during war and during battle, and during the times there need it. but it definitely has been shown to have a huge impact in beacon go back 25 years, looked at all the wars that have been off slots from the gulf war to those. and the began to stand a new rock and so on. and those stories off of um, oh are, are out there. alright, futurist and emerging tech expert, ian khan. thank you so much for that insight today. and as we can see in a perfect world, future wars wouldn't be bloodless for both soldiers and civilians. a like, they'd be exacting, able to only get the bad guys, but we don't live in

a perfect world. and technology just isn't there yet. for now, the advancement in warfare tech only seems to be expanding the amount of blood that is shed for people on the receiving end of a wealthy nations technological advances. that is going to do it for this week's episode of modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy. i'm your host manila. chad. thanks for 2. and again, we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o. the take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions.

fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few. fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground, can probably be the most dangerous. at the mention of nato's the point proxy wind rush. it is the issue of escalation, washington. it's always more in moscow not to escalate wild west because repeatedly done so. nato's indifference to escalation puts us all at peril. the

of the military stuff is a defeat and the fail defensive on the don't yet. friends with russian officials, thank you. have lost at least 300 soldiers and thousands of military vehicles also ahead west an official stop wasting out to the reality that some of the weapons they sent to you pray being used to attack russian territories. contrary to kids, pledges when receive and beyond. in their attempts to move forward, also one of the deadliest trained crashes in its history, which needs at least 275 dead. and more than 1000 injured positions with ze monday

now with head tracks spotty, spoke with people still struggling to find their relative. i have looks almost sweet brother in at least 20 hospitals and 3 months who are you haven't found in what do i do? the last thing i remember was being on the train, again consciousness a while ago. but i don't know where my friends and family are. no one here knows either. the 2 year olds kind of stand in boy dice completing, sustains, doing. it is really on the rate in the occupied with the it's a pm here in moscow, and this is all the international with the very latest world news update is great to have you with us. now the top story, they saw, the enemy has failed to break through all defences. as according to russia's defense ministry, which phases for this successfully repels a large scale. the crating defensive on sunday, along 5 posts. the southern don't,

yes, front to the june. 4th, the enemy made an unsuccessful attempt at a large scale offensive and southern don't ask 6 mobile units of ukrainian armed forces and 2 tank battalions were involved in the settlements of misquote. you know, you don't ask republic and nobody sort of car, suppose you a region. most of the military forces air strikes and artillery fire inflicted heavy losses on the enemy. as we've heard from the defense industry, ukrainian forces tried to reach russian defenses in 5 areas of don't boss. now. they made some temporary advances in those areas, but ultimately they will repelled by the russian forces on the offensive. what has been a failure they, it's failed to achieve its goals. this is from the defense ministry. now that we've seen footage, so it could, i doing all of the russian destruction of ukrainian minute see,

hold wherever and according to the ministry of defense. this the most is how being fairly significant, they say the up to 2 story up to 300 soldiers have been killed. 16 times destroyed a $24.00 on with vehicles including 3 of the bradley fighting vehicles. these are, of course, the vehicles that are being supplied by the united states now skirmishes or continuing in some of those areas. and this heavy fighting in this key city, the key town of mount in co, which is about 30 kilometers to the west of don't yet. so this is a strategically important city, a, this is where the baby attracts a, a being lost against the population, the civilian population of the city of don't yet can cause a defense in helping working very hard to keep the civilian population a save some of those all being breach to close those. uh we,

we know that there was a teenager that ended in one of the front line areas today, but this is the year to go back to the uh, the ukrainian attack this room has been circulating. is this the start of the longer way to the lone anticipated when it was a spring offensive that's been pushed back now, this is off the ukranian president zalinski said that he was ready. the kid was ready to launch the discounts or offensive look as being some contradictory statements. one of his deputies said that they didn't have a the, i'm the addition to, to notice the offensive. so, but this is a significant loss for, for ukrainian full of his. of course, this is a developing, so we will bring him on, keep you updated as we have more your claims use of nato supplied weapons to attack . russia has finally started to raise questions from kids, west and sponsors. the belgian prime minister is now spoken about strict controls on where the items are ending up. we dug deep into the issue. we don't see

correspondent in my a show here in the studio. the washington post has reported on saturday the and the and say crumbling fighters that are using tactical vehicles originally given to claim by the us and poland. now we have belgium that is currently doing an investigation after belgian rifles were reported to be used by pro ukrainian, a forces that are fighting against russian forces within the russian territory. european weapons, so to leave it to ukraine, under the condition that they all use the new current territory. with the purpose of defending that territory, we have treat controls in place to see that this is the case. now this has been a focus of western media for months. has there been any re action from the west on t f? botched offensive attempt. now war so has also denied connection with the polish bowl into for which has also taken parking. the effects and the boulder of the region, while the worries that the weapons supplied to frame by the west might go into the

wrong hands and these worries were ignored. eventually that's exactly what happened and according to some reports, us made and detect. miss launchers were found in the hands of mexican drug cartels which they have allegedly bought from ukraine. but we want to do a support ukraine to make as much progress as possible on the battlefield. so that it is in the strongest possible position at the negotiating table. and we do believe that this counter offensive will allow ukraine to take strategically significant territory back from russia areas occupied by russia that are rightfully suffering ukrainian territory. now, thousands of us, 84 weapons as systems were originally shaped ship to ukraine, but they have been purchased by the mexican cartel band. let's not the also, let's not forget that it has been proved in 2022. that was just supplied. what

since were found in the, on the web for sale man, according to the press secretary, demetrius desktop wasn't see friends keep on increasing and the supply from germany and france of missiles with 500 kilometer of friends. it's even more. it's ongoing . it's not even a corner based on those uh, glaylock. paloma stays, the west also was to find a pretext for most sanctions against russia, or triggering t of attempts to fondly northcutt's promise to counter offensive the cost of keys in europe. the cost, which is the conflict isn't, isn't ukraine, but uh, or the app and the code on the call the before even meet the reaction started. i'm not talking about the, the special uh me to tell you extra refresh, i'm talking about the, the, the dial 2014, even before or the moment where to isolate, to isolate the rational, basically. so the idea of the strategy that you did united states strategy in europe seems a long time since the default of soviet union was to expand to the,

to the east. and to put russia in condition of the force to uh, break old, the, the economically that is, that established with the, with your money. and we will, you will be in the countries. so nice easy these, that these are the tech, isn't that, that coming actually from united states, we flew the config conditions for, for see to you to apply sanctions against the russian, which actually is a kind of suicide for the, for the european union. on. meanwhile belgrade, the region which is near the ukrainian border has reportedly coming to fund again following days of successive rates by ukrainian forces. over the last 2 days, 6 people have been transferred from the attacked villages to regions since this region, central city of belgrade, we have the story of one of the victims. i'm a doctor myself. i was near the village of this load of con, there were people still there,

but with no electricity for 3 days. about 15 minutes after i arrived, an explosion happened right near me. it's impossible to say what exactly it was. then i got in the car and drove to the highway, basically passed out. the police came and brought me here. so yes, i was wounded but made it out of there on my own. then they moved me and brought me here. of correspondence, a ghost on if he's not, we should be i can. so he sent his base exclusive report from the epa sense of the evacuation efforts. chris used to be a prosperous, flourishing city of some 40000 people. now, it's a ghost town. the

this place here is a typical soviet era apartment block building. it would have taken more than just one round to deal this type of damage. if you were to pick just around the corner, you can see that the fire is still raging on the ruins of what used to be someone's home. it's free, it's deserted. every once in a while, an old ca speeds past us. while some civilians have stayed, an overwhelming majority of the locals have chosen to escape to safer places. i'm not young here to the street. the house shakes at night. every thing shakes. and that's why everyone here is trying to leave. people are scared children and elderly people. there's nothing else to say other than were frightened i left last.