he said, come to us, right? or probably sold, you know, what, we're not going to go through this. let's just accept whatever changes being made on. we are going to deal with it and find a way through the acceptance and, and gone through that route down. that's rude, that probably we've, we would have seen a different scene in syria now. yes, but they have cost. i don't think that becoming a 2nd degree citizen was an option for many of the and i think they perhaps also had the, well some inkling of knowledge at that time because this syrian uprising was happening on the hills of the destruction of state structures in, in libya and the very public murder of more. mark adolphe and i think there was of why the expectation on the part of this year and the address there is that a similar kind of scenario could be repeated in, in, in syria. what do you think preventive that from happening? some of the main factors apart from the public results to support the state,

not the leader, but actually the state structures in, in the that actually you, you touched on a very important point. first of all, what happened in libya and, and human specifically, and told at least a segment of syria and people that this is not going to lead to in any way. okay? because we could see that there was going to be an a key in both places. so this confuses the police, some syrians to stand by their state and keep it the field. now this result isn't unfounded and isn't out of thing. and we knew 1st of all that there was going to be internal resources that we could draw upon. but 2nd, but we have allies who wouldn't be interested in allowing syria to fall into, let's just say the other account. so basically the russians, and there are also others who saw in syria

a front kline and where they could fight to prevent of the battle from moving into their hand. which was in wrong cuz we knew that they are in use would perceive the problem in syria. as a preview to a problem in the air on, so they didn't on to and you know, a lot of that easy to happen. and so we've had sort of natural allies. if you think of the russian intervention in, in syria, in 2015 in the autumn of 2015, and there's always a lot of talking to syria, one to this that the russian friends came out. oh, that is true because syria definitely needed some support cuz everybody else was, was trying to bring the government down on the state down. but also russia had a strategic interest because it, so the united states move into the region after the fall of muso, under the guys, i would argue, of fighting dice with what probably russian soul was. you know, 8 is somebody who they compete with that on an international scale is moving into

a, an area where their influence can be curtailed. so, but mr. more stuff can i ask you on that? because this is a very difficult question for, for the russians, because one could argue that the russians intervention and 0 was very effective in terms of resources and changing the dynamic all of this conference. but there's also a group of analysts here in russia who argued, i think it was actually a premium you to the ukraine and conflict. because having encountered the russia as an effective counter for, as the americans may have exacerbated the militarization of ukraine and their thinking of ukraine as a sort of bulwark against a brush, as a potential of gathering of strength. do you think the war in ukraine is somehow connected to russia's intervention in syria? i would argue it's the other way around. i would argue that the, because simply what happened in the ukraine started with as the suspense of lead to

the naked di started in 2014. and the russian intervention in syria was like a year later. so you could argue that the problem with the ukraine, the cutoff ties the inability of russia to um, to negotiate with the united states made, you know, syria a ending as a table sort of an i wouldn't say threats, but at least last of influence and a question sort of to the russians, and they that facilitate their move. but again, there are, you know, i don't want to be a romantic about this book. yes, there are lots more and relations and history between russia and syria, that there is between syria and the united states. but no, for the russians. this was a continuation off, i would say struggle, but let's just say competition or conflict with the united states that didn't even started 2014. it started, i would argue earlier than that. well,

because i'm argue that it's never actually, and it's been that with the cold war, but mr. woke up, we have to and here for a few moments to take a little break, but we will be back in just a few moments. spittoon, the, [000:00:00;00] the problem is the cost of housing keeps on going up. the cost of living keeps on going up. inflation keeps on going up, gas keeps on going up to all the costs of living,

keeps on rising over the summer and it will still wasn't able to find housing to. there's no former housing in lakewood, i've seen an increase in people calling me asking me for a place to stay. i need to get 10 that we've had people that have been millionaires in the past, you know, had big businesses, different things to throw you over the age. so people shouldn't be so judge mental about the homeless because it didn't happen. you're gonna have to do, i was anybody i'd say government needs to help all these homeless instead of sending money over to ukraine and all those other countries worried about your own country. i just wish we had a president's daycare. we don't have a president that cares. i wish people would wake up to see what jo. 5

is doing to us. people don't realize. and the end up in the deep america's in the like all the welcome back to all the parts with a model cost founder and director of no service a think tank focusing on the middle is mr. because before the break, we were discussing the intricacies. so russia's involvement in the middle east and it's a fascinating topic, but i do want to go back to serious readmission into the arab league because in this day and age we have lots of examples of conflicts being pushed. but

very few, although very promising examples of conflicts. well, um, not necessarily being you have to reconcile with at least the format adversaries moving towards each other. and one example of that would be syria in turkey, syria and saudi arabia, saudi arabia and iran, there. um, a number of the very surprising developments wouldn't be too premature or too naive to believe that the, the region which suffered from so much violence is finally ready to a bands and some of that, you know, and they, they was. so it is premature. i think the, this is about as the competition, competition for the regional influence competition of domestic stability until on every single player have their own game. let's look at the situation. i think the easiest way of explaining what happened was that there are certain parties in the

middle east, the pushed so far and so long. and so hard to have a resolution via violence means whether in yemen will or whether in syria, there was a lot of economic pressure. if you think of syria, if you think of lebanon for the other party, to force it to capitulate, that did not happen. so there was a book, there was a snack, you know, there was a steel made. why should we put even more resources when the situation is not acceptable? and could we achieve different results by applying different methods? and that's what probably prompted the and sort of a course type of arabs in of jordan egypt, saudi arabia and the u. a. e. to meet in autumn of 2020 and decide that they weren't going to be approaching syria in order to preserve cedar as a big identity sort of. and this led to some explicit explanations of promoting of the ad here,

the king of jordan of the law. the 2nd flew to washington and flew to moscow and explain this initiative on what we see now. is it was a goofing of that initiative to now give, ask you can ask about that because this is a fascinating name as well because there's always something you can our argue, the, the arab mentality. yeah. so, more flexible, more mobilely you, you know, you're famous for your bizarre. so you can think like in many different ways about potential uh, benefit. but the american mentality is usually very stumper and the american administration's almost never, i recognize the, the floss and that in the past policies. it's pretty obvious that in order for the, for syria to be kicked out of the arab league, the, they have to be some american pressure from the of almost white house. do you think there was some sort of green lighting to the re admission from the american side this time around? i think there was at least

a yellow light and amber light and the american, the rhetoric and what they're trying to do, for example, via their legislative the, you know, the congress and the senate. and in passing more and more sanctions and more and more prohibitive rules, it looks like a stop gap is. so we have to understand this is not about cedar yet for the united states. this is not about the syrians, 3 joining the army. this is about an opportunity for the united states increase and consolidate as an influence in the region the what's the charge of winter months, what kind of influence? because if we look at the saudi, saudis, if we look at the trucks, they're all nominally american allies. but they engaged far more with china, with russia even with the right now. so what is left of the american implants, or what are some of the new ways that exerts itself, or the fact that you know, the prime minister of israel, a lot of the king of jordan nowadays visit most school more than they visit.

washington is obviously a worry, but that is a side effect and a result of the american intervention to destabilize syria, whether we liked it or not. and i'm not gonna, i'm not going to go through explaining why the united states, if you think of it up, if you think of a northeastern syria, they are seeing an opportunity of influence and they don't want to surrender that very easily. they want to keep out as much as possible, and they took up the big picture. they, they have a bigger chessboard to play. and so they're thinking about the chinese as they're thinking about the russians. so it sort of in syria going back to the creek is a minor detail, but what they would want from it is that if the syrians, for example, could be contained by the arms or health. and it could be by the items, you know, the show them and it could be a 1st parity so that they could break. and we did it a bit from the iranians from the russians. then this would be argued ethically be

a, an american plus sort of speaking about the syria as a regional player. the you mentioned been another interview that there is indeed the pragmatic self interest on the part of the arab league to see syria re admitted into the organization. what exactly could syria all her on uh, the jamini on the ranking and on the palestinian france. so it starts with the posting in front, which is the problem in the middle east, on the main problem or the original problem. you put it as much as well as, as much as you like to. in this case, syria offers the palestinians a route to say, no 4 to pressure. that makes syria a very important player to nothing. if you, if you think of the abraham, of course, if you think of a lot of things, sacrament, whatever, as long as the palestinians can see that we could prolong this fight for another day. as long as they can feel that then they won't, you know, raise the,

the white flag. and that makes syria very important to their cause. now you're on, in a sense, is backing syria in that tool very much. and this axis of syria, iran, his blood and how most mixed up possible people can feel some help. because the last thing that's gonna solve the post in a problem is for the posting used device to raise the white flag. it's not going to end. it's very natural now the world needs syria to negotiate a way out of this because again, and so that's the palestinian issue. the other issues because of this particular position of syria and it's for nation with a lot. this gives syria leverage and solving other regional problems that iran is involved with, with the audible so in that sense, syria can feel now that it goes back to its natural place as a mediator, as

a mid point between the adverbs and the uranium. and if you think of the latest so degrading and rubbish, well, you know this, the, you know, the agreement that beside in engaging, you know, pattern not pattern by the chinese and so on. if you think about it also is a continuation of the struggle by peaceful means. you know, we're still competing, but yes, we're going to start the hostilities by the way, we need to solve human. and so one, syria can find itself a very helpful player to it's out of brother in, in helping solve that probably medium and in level. nothing, in my personal opinion, nothing is going to happen in less than i guess, serious will, seriously. so there is so much at stake for syria and lebanon, and this explains the cedar intervention end of it. and since the year 2000, 976, if you want to put it that way, there's a lot at stake and syria will, you know,

a nothing is going to happen 11. unless somebody agrees with syria on something. it's interesting. yeah. it's actually very inspiring what you're talking about and it makes me think about maybe my christian is eric on does something i, paul, i apologize about that before hand. but the, you know, the, the, the traditional thinking in place in washington has been the, you know, we need our benevolent the gemini in order to sort of help those. um, they're very people in the middle east to sort out the differences without killing themselves to, you know, to extinction. and though, what do you seem to be suggesting is that once the american influence has decreased or become, become somewhat different, the arab states can deal with that different a different interest in their relatively civilized in the peaceful way i, i do want to, i know, i ask you about the, the whole for about our new world,

but there seems to be something new emerging. do you see any new spirit among within this region? all, i don't know believing in things, but at the end that things could be sorted out in the regional conceptual way. perhaps with some mediation from bigger players. but like trying to, let's say, well, like russia or even like the united states. but without giving anyone any outside play or the ultimate decisions for the phase of the people who inhabit the region, i'm going to be as realistic as possible. and as frank as possible, i don't think that the major players can afford to antagonize or, you know, lose the trust of the united states. this is not about the regional position or their economic position. this is on. this is about their domestic stability. part of their domestic stability lies on the fact that this country is allied with the united states, the sort of that the country a lot with the united states. however, having said that,

over the past few decades and especially in the past couple of decades, these countries has mature that they are now realizing our ass pre allies now that they can actually play a bigger role, a more active called proactive whole in world affairs. and to maximize whatever benefit they can get. so let's take, for example, saturday of if, if you think of cold thought about, yeah, it is a very specific case, more profiteering, it's about finding its place within the region proving to its neighbors, the u. a, the saudi arabia's a saudi arabia, that, that it is on a peer to peer a sort of relationship with them. it's not like, you know, it's a come 2nd, but with saudi arabia, they go to beijing and they do agree with a bang to the exchange or to sell the dollar to, to settle their oil for the chinese community. now this was unheard of

unthinkable say 10 years ago. and what does that mean to? so you can go to the americans and say, look, you have your own problems, we have ours. but we have to hedge against, you know, the fall of the us dollar value or whatever it is. and we have a lot of trade with china and this could make it easier for us. and the united states could not easily say no when push comes to shove, the saudis will be expected to align behind the united states. but as long as there is some sort of margin for them to what they will bar and they have their own regional aspirations as well. and if you think about it, it also falls within the united states view on how to add to the, to spread its influence. so the, you know, the saudis could say, look, if we put pressure on syria 11 and for example, 11 and would fall under our influence and therefore your influence to and so the americans would say the ultimately doesn't, doesn't matter how you market it, as long as you can actually achieve a lasting peace. that's

a good enough of the result. the may get some, you know, haven't big started to yours or persuasion is very helpful here. and it's, you know, it's still unclear who is the dog and who is the tale. and in this whole tail, but the at least people uh, not being killed in such large numbers anymore. yeah. we have yeah, yeah. we have to leave it there. but uh i, i agree that i appreciate your presence today. thank you very much for helping me. i'd really appreciate it and thank you for watching and hope to sooner again on the was a part of the, [000:00:00;00] the

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but you know, our freedoms are being taken away or we're not allowed to have these freedoms because of probably some economic reasons. somebody wants to make some money off of housing. and so the politicians create these laws, timmons, restrict, housing make, you know, an artificial type housing system. when you know, we just need a good free market where people can afford a small home on a small piece of property and only pay $3.00 or $400.00 a month. it can happen. you know, we can do that. but it's again, the politics that are restricting something like that. and then as long as it's not american, we need to change that. and then you go back, need to go back to american fundamentals. the okay. merry christmas. everybody police navita. we celebrate the birth of our lord

and savior. jesus christ today, born in a manger, home, and home was himself beverly probably returning to today for another day that that was given as the breath of life. another day to enjoy the beauty and wonder of the great creation father. we just are especially 3rd to this day this particular day where we celebrate the birth of our lord and savior. jesus christ, who came to redeem us from our sins. again, we asked all these things in the name of jesus christ, our lord and savior, a man and a man. change the jesus came to be merciful. you know, he told the, the pharisees, he says, you know, you, you follow every little bit of the law, but the way, the, your measures of the law,

the more important part of the law, mercy, compassion and love. you neglect. so you said you, your priorities are out of place. you know you, you focus on the small things, but the big things you don't focus on the review, really important things. you don't focus on like mercy and love. so jesus saw that, you know, they can, he didn't just teach us in words. he taught us that examples. ok . ok. ok. all right, but as christmas so. so yeah, i hear you go. there's 2 brothers. the ok. okay, you're welcome. god bless america christmas. i was raised in a family that was uh, you know, very christian, my mother was a strong christian woman and she would teach us from the bible all the time, read from us from the bible. and so i grew up really, you know, it was infused into me from my mother here who's on

the the show and we can be speak because we are going to be doors of the white man. and because you know, this is, this is like, this is what robert mcmillan who is the road, okay. oh no. people don't realize. and the in the, in the div to them no matter where it goes in the 2nd bug like, oh it's ok. we all those things. so i have my values. i know y'all, i was warner warner, i would say a woman. okay. and is your married was more, i'm on you. so you might, you're on the side of the, you know, the modeling and the, i don't think some of the room agree with it that made us and the woman it was st. andrews out there defeating the society,

receiving the young people there. how knowing morality that how nobody who's that think everything is ok and there's no guidelines to evaluate and even a government, it's not the bidding of society fall apart. and that's how, oh ok road history repeats itself was the, it's the adjustment into it. you know, i think the best uh gift for christmas or any time of the year is, is to be able to give. it's just, it's just feel so good to be able to give to other people. you know, so it's a blessing i hit it goes to get a good feeling inside when it give to other people. so i do it, you know, every time i do this over a 121 years that every time i do it, i get

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