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and that's towards what can i get a text from? my daughter said there's a shooting and then i get another one from david. what do you do when you get the call like that? this flood is coming and the people are reading and these things, tang so you think you, well we see in the military our job was to help the kids over the fence. the shooter actually escaped. and that same route that a risk has been made. not long after the shooting happened, no more on who this person is, although multiple reports pointing towards the shooter being a former student, we had a countless magazines, multiple magazines, and at this point, we believe we have won a or 15, were walking home and i saw some valentine's day teddy bears on the street, which was just horrible because like that there was supposed to be filled with love and just your happiness. and it was like taken away so quickly. the night before on sheen asked me after a basketball game. hey jonathan,
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we stopping by some flowers for tomorrow, for tory, his girlfriend, providing thing saying the we got school set. okay. that i love you. he read the flowers. it said, call me i. so you get told me the flowers, so i know what happened and what was that reaction? and that was the other text from one of the teachers. he said sandy. nobody's heard from fucking not this kid. not let's get the news and the discount was maybe 5 or 6 at that time and i thought that was the worst it could get there saying 5 bodies as 7 bodies to that all i need was close. my eyes was dead.
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volcano was dead. meadow was at atlanta was dead. nicholas said, the wife, what's going on? my mom didn't want me to going out the 1st night. and i felt that i had to for my sister because she was crying so much. you know, lawrence for closest friends passed away in the violence. that's why i went out there and the 1st place, my mom and dad, one, it basically tried physically stopping me from going and i basically said, hell, no, i'm going. i got my camera and i, i went the so i'm here, i'm a student journalist at some in douglas high school and a terrible event. this happened. it wasn't until the end of the night that they have confirmed the 12 bodies is the next day. they confirmed all 17 and then it wasn't until a couple days later they took all the names. the
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i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except we're so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to make a truck rather than fit the various jobs. i mean with the artificial intelligence, we have somebody with the in the
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a robot must protect this phone. existence was on the what happened, think libya and in human specifically told at least a segment of the syrian people that this is not going to need to any, any weird because we can see that there was going to be on our in both places. so these are things that please some syrians to stand by their state and keep it filled. the jamie was my baby girl. she'll be forever 14 till one. she wasn't. she was killed. my daughter running down the hallway,
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the air 15 on her back running for her life. dad is in my head every 2nd of every day. think about what these kids witness. think about what they heard. think about some of these kids who were in the same room is other chance who died and they watched their friends, paul, the, when we were in front of me by doing nothing less, that happens to that for kids that lives through this and in our entire generation inside to look through this combine happened 2 years before i was even born. and this has happened again and again and again and again and again, because people continue to stick with the system and say, you know, we're going to try changing a few things and it's like, oh god, the energy pushing against us like we need to submit to them because they're big and scared and we have jobs to lose. we don't, we've lost our friends. what else do we have to lose?
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my initial reaction was to get political. i this just so angry. david was doing a lot of interviews because that's what he knew how to do were children. you guys are like, are the adults. you need to take some action and play a role for it together. come of your politics and get something done. i was organizing because that's what i need to do. is it on demand in periods of 100 students from storm and douglas high school forwarded buses, taking their fight for gun reform to the states capital 450 miles away. karen called me over to his house and told me that he had this idea to do a large and i was like, all right, let's do that. at that point, person was the center of the world. the
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all eyes are nice. so we had to take it and run with it. people were like, this isn't gonna work and it was like in the the party was fine. august, 4th, 2000 is incorrect. as a resident, we just have the level of to america the day after he turn 3, the white teen wash varies point one. it gives us as neither one
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of the house, and he was very, very shy bad that it started changing the way he decided to face the where he became a teenager to stay and be having a voice the at school. he was, well, non sure. his friends from high school, i think they found the way the easy way to call him is there was he you know, trying to pro now the name. i think they can we the idea maybe they were teasing him about what are the very everybody start calling him? what was, what was the she was very knowledgeable about what's going on. she was the one who was the 1st one that was defending everybody. she left the voice of
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the class. so that's an attitude that it came from and that that relationship happenstance working was for my wife a dad. but he was always a friend. he was just like, she was that really he was the fancy had any friends, but he was like body loved to play basketball. one day he got calls from the rough bad calls one after the other and she complained and the rest threw him out of the game. on our way back home, he said that i actually saying that that wrapped is receiving money from the 13th. so i don't think there is any way we can win this game with that rest in charge then february,
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and then i needed to do something. tony and my wife is sort of these organization called change the ref. reference represented by people in congress because they have to make the calls and they are attached by money or personal interest with a lobby like the inner re, we're going to change the referee so we can have better calls on a 1st game. so perfect way of wondering and walk in the see is this friday i fly tomorrow. i applied on friday morning. so i'm really not really
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seeing this all come together and it being led by students, organized by students, don't even have words to describe how happy i am or even how proud i am. i can't wait to see where actually comes out of this because i know we're not going to stop . so i think they're a little under prepared for the the attack of the teenagers. the mercer airlines never again. the kids have park lane really have 5 main points, repealing the tricky amendment to allow cdc research for gun violence as right now
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they can allergy and funding towards it. the atf had strictly paper records of guns, sales, and gun registries. so digitize that. pretty simple, pretty common sense banning high capacity magazines and things like pump stocks as they are very dangerous and hunters can still hunt without them. so most accepted across the country is universal. background checks, something that nobody has put to the floor yet. and the most controversial would be the assault weapons ban. basically, we want to make sure that certain things that are just too dangerous for a regular civilian shouldn't be in the hands of those people. for disability in a more is the 150000 people show up. it's the biggest protest
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of our time the it's crazy to see the response from everywhere. the $888.00 march is across the planet. all standing together for this one issue. it's just inspiring to say the least you're the people an hour shake. the move is all about and the thing is a new beginning. pain is going to turn into our power. i'm going to do my best to give it to them the
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not the last day before break, the school board decided that we have to bring clear backpacks to school and have security checks of support for this now they're just throwing band aid changes out there and it's not, not being received very well the,
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i'm just putting this price tag or on the back the if you divide all the money given to marco, review of a better or divide that by the students in florida. it's a $1.05 for students. sort of the meaning of this, i don't know if i'm gonna, if it's worth it for me to even bring it in a system, there's not even like as a fashion statement, but just embarrassing that our school is going through this the let me ask you a question right now, do you know for a 100 percent that i don't have a nice in here?
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exactly. the little pistol in my back here. definitely don't thing any young people are involved in this decision. it's probably the same generation that's been playing a saw for the past 6 weeks. i think they're doing a lot to kind of just humor us. this is one of those times we're waiting real change. the i asked my friend, emma gonzalez, if she was able to find out later back,
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but for me she did. so that's what kings clear backpack and it's filled with the things that he needs to bring out his voice. and i found that art is a good way to communicate to people and to gain 14 to boys even if he's not here the difference between what's that happened today and moving forward. and what already happened in miami, in new york, is that it's going to be more demanding. a louder message, maureen packed, the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really one say better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground? can a small business invest a bulk no issue, but for the mobile, when you go annual g d p per capita is about $4000.00 euros. the products of color and a mobile foster presley of man. i mean, upon their cost, the seal with us really into social floating,
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i'm old, allow me to come out, please make your lives or stop the the single, the thought of unemployment is off the charts. most of us territorial integrity and sovereignty. we respect the country which enjoys financial support from the us and the you is constantly roles by political and corruption scandals. but all the students stopped motivated, attaining candidates status in 2022. the
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hello and welcome to was a part. there's an old cliche that war is a continuation of politics by other means, but apparently so ease, peace, with serious recent re admission into the era plague, some of its former adversaries. now looking into potentially rebuilding the country, they help to destroy something profound. must have shift to in the middle east. what is it? well, to discuss it, i'm now joined by a model because founder and director of know says a think tank folks thing on the middle is mr. broadcast is great to talk to you again. thank you very much for your time. thank you for having me. thank you very much. now the last time i interviewed you was in 2013. when this year in the world was still in its varying tends to stages. the country had already been kicked out of the arab league, and anyone recognizing the right of the syrian state to defend itself or defended citizens was considered a butcher,
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at least in the western narrative. i just wonder how does it feel to to see it come full circle now? i think we, we'll predict well, some of us at least predicted that this was going to be the case. eventually, i don't think anyone in their wildest dreams a lot the different take a so long it's elizabeth who knew from the very beginning that there were enough syrians who did not want to do an evolution or so some risk and endangered it, and therefore stood by the government and because they were enough of them, you know, they couldn't be defeated. the tides couldn't be turned so eventually renew. this was going to happen. i lost it, came up to a huge cost and a lot of stores for syrians. i don't know, in a sense uh, could if this could this have come a little bit earlier perhaps, but again,
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you know, the syrian issue isn't really tied on, but with syria or even the regional the, you know, c a term but, but it's actually a model you know, worldwide sort of problem, i do want to ask you about the psychological effect of these contain on the syrians, besides reducing the relationship between people and power, or people and change their relationship to change and the means to attain, it has changed in any way okay, so, so let me tell you, it is a story to the very 1st few days off. again, thank you for the so called revolution. i could argue to revolution by some parts of the syrian people. this is very important to understand. this is not a resolution of this theory and people against a dictatorship or no thought of teddy innovation. this is far more that a group of syrian people, the revolutionary methods, soft off. whether you, you view that as positive or negative,
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wanted to change things. and the other part of the syrian people, so a problem with that and, and, you know, they, they felt that they need to stop that and counter that. an example the 1st, the 1st few days, one of the 1st list of demands that we heard was from a shake in the coastal area of bonnie ah, so coastal city of binding us, the 1st line of demand of the demand list was to separate boys and girls and schools, there are so many reasons why so many syrians wouldn't approve to such agenda. and the problem was at the very beginning, is that we knew that that this kind of rhetoric would attract a lot of problems from the jihad. these even from certain countries in the region who are in themselves, very democratic. so we, i think the sooner people split from the very beginning on this, i was just
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a little bit strong by your phrase of revolutionary means. because i, i mean, it sounds, it may sound very romantic to western audience. it doesn't sound romantic to me because i'm, you know, somebody who was born in the country that had several revolutions and they usually turn out to be very blundering. and it's not just the, you know, about the, to give are a song. so it's about the understanding of social dynamics and the complexity of the core existence of the, you know, diverse interest, diverse mentality. so, you know, it's, it's a very complicated subject. and uh, what angers me a lot is how sort of popularized it has become people who watch television for some reason. believe that they, they can be an expert on freedom revolution and social change. and i think the ones who paid the price for the several months us, for the so magic attitude to revolution. obviously when people lived in people into some extended to nation and people and the yeah, many people and the egyptian people on the lease goes on and on. but that,
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unfortunately, those who push should never, you know, come face to face with it, with the consequences of that the rebels it's, it's actually rebellion. it's not a revolution because, you know, it's not all the syrian people, but they thought of it as a revolution. they believed, etc, but even they still use that rhetoric. they believe that this was a revolution. and when they encounter a different point of view, they don't believe that it exists. if they think this is either a government collaborate or, or a traitor, it's either this or that they sold by, by believing that they are more numerous to you. they could bring more support for more countries. i mean, in 2012, they were like 130 countries to and gather or met in more uncle to support the cause. they sold that they could overwhelm the other side. but this was not the, you know, it was more of a civil war from the very beginning,
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not down the lines of like, she, i this sidney that or catholic this process than that. it was more objective, more people on the side that was reluctant or pretty much against this sort of action. i did so because of some sort of objective reasons rather than subjective reasons, we didn't approve of the program. we didn't approve of how it was going to be implemented, who were supporting it and so on and so forth. so far. so it was all that now going back you original question with the syrian people want to change model is their appetite more appetite actually not the case because now syrians are more reluctant to do any to know if, if anybody space of any sort of change, then he's going to be shut down by lots of people because we already know what the that would might mean and what no intentions either from regional or international
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powers. that could, it could hide. so yeah, no, that happens. you know, it's, you know, you, we also need to have a broader conversational on what change or democracy really is. because, i mean, there's a tendency, especially in the western discourse to, you know, assign larger than life significance to any political leader in this case. but charlotte sought, but there are numerous anonymous syrians in millions of them who, you know, cab disclose running and hospitals running for big. brad, who clean the streets, who you know, stood by that country in very humble, but also very, very profound ways. and it takes courage, it takes time and i takes result. and to me, at least that's what june involve democracy and patriotism is all about. isn't it the same for you? yes it is. and again, going back to the very 1st few days, those who received for it from the actions that went, you know, taking yeah. and,
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and the streets from the problems that was starting and all that stuff. that only line of defense was to keep the government going to keep the state on its feet. they gave their children to the army, the very stubborn, the tried to stay in the country and not flee. you know, of dealt with talking doctors and nurses were talking teacher talk, engineer talking everybody their line of defense to keep the cedar. yes, they want was to keep the government and the state on their feet because that's their best chance of survival. had those people capitulated from the very beginning from the very beginning. i the so come to us, right? or probably sold, you know what, we're not going to go through this. let's just accept whatever changes being made and we are going to deal with it and find a way through the accepted and, and gone through that route down. that's rude. that probably we've, we would have seen a different scene in syria now. yes, but they have cost,
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i don't think the becoming a 2nd degree citizen was an option for many of them. and i think they perhaps also had a well some inkling of knowledge at that time because this syrian uprising was happening on the hills of the destruction of state structures in, in libya, and the very public murder of more. mark adolphe and i think there was of why the expectation on the part of the searing that i'm or sir, is that a similar kind of scenario it could be repeated in, in syria. what do you think preventive dots from happening? some of the main factors apart from the public results to support the state, not the leader, but actually they the state structures in, in the that actually you, you touched on a very important point. first of all, what happened in libya and in human, specifically, and told at least a segment of cecilia and people that this is not going to lead to any any we're
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good because we could see that there was going to be on our key in both places. so this contains the police, some syrians to stand by their state and keep it filled. now this result isn't unfounded and isn't out of thing. and we knew 1st of all that there was going to be internal resources that we could draw upon. but 2nd, but we have allies who wouldn't be interested in allowing syria to fall into let's just say the other account. so basically the russians, and there are also others who so in syria, a front klein and where they could fight to prevent that. the battle from moving into their hand, which was in wrong cuz we knew that they are in use, would perceive the problem in syria. as a preview to.

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