the, the forces are in, you're not in your rushing forces. american forces are here to defend nato allies. nato escalates even more indiscretion. military operations become a more else of sounds like the social is much to see if that i see failure to us because what i mean we've so easily issue and unique and east of media from we spend some let's hearing, let's just don't finish the end. you see where there's no secret, the . the

hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . if you cranes long anticipated counter offensive has indeed begun, but it's not off to a good start. this does not bode well for the camp regime, and more importantly, it is a testament to the an effectiveness of nato. ukraine is failing. and so as nato, the cross talking offensives, i'm joined by my guess, rough niemeyer, we knew by the chairman of the council for a constitution and sovereignty in prague. we have brad blankenship. he is a comm this at c g t n. a freelance reporter refreshing was as well as an r t contributor and in italy we crossed to lorenzo marie. but she me, he is an adjunct professor of political philosophy. andrea politics at l. d. m. international institute or gentlemen, cost,

i've roles and the fact that music can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate, let me go to ralph 1st and sunny do by ro, i mean there's been a lot of it is this counter offensive is turned into a mean in and out of itself. because if you look back and give it a wider angle here, the major backer of all this is of course the united states and nato. and there's no indication whatsoever that the bye didn't ministration wants to see. this complet comes in any time soon. so it's a lot of talk about this here. and of course, you know, we have this incursion over the last new cycle and already the new york times say, oh, this is just reconnaissance where the real thing, i mean this is a, this counter offensive is turning into a unicorn. ralph to yes, i agree with you. it is not as they seem to have expected it, but on the other hand, you have to study all the other conflicts that the united states impose on data. recently in the past, decades now have entered and where these are proxy wars and the, the,

the proxy war of course is by itself. but it king that it is not to direct confrontation. so still they say that they are not on the ground, but we see of course that, well, they are. well, you see these parts is an attacks that are even entering russia and that one t of even says, oh, it's not a soul address, but who is it then what it has to ask. and i believe that is the real strategy of course mystified, and cannot agree to n c's files of war. he has not entered officially, but he will see these proxy words. they have the tendency, like that's called a d. i've gotten used as a some of the ukraine right now. we will see for the next the cage probably always insurgencies from ukraine and territory also into russian territory. and neither side can really say they want it. so also russia has difficulties to maintain the, you know, the,

the regions that they have. and i don't know who was responsible for, for the, the time that broke now. well, what was exploded to, you know, it's still not clear, but we've a learned about that more. and i believe this is part of the strategy to do half this military confrontation going on and on and on. and that is the sad thing to say. it's not the direct wall between russia and they to box the proxy wall and that steps what is happening. well, that's a really good point lorenzo. let me go to you right now because the crane can't win . so why and the war? that's a very perverse logic. but that's what we're getting down to because and you know, i think it's fair to say, i mean, again, it's shorthand ukraine's counter offensive. this is ne, toes offensive. the ukrainian army was destroyed last summer. this is completely new equipped with all kinds of essentially junk. they made to countries. i'm sent to ukraine. but this is nato's offensive. and i think we shouldn't we,

we should say what it is. i mean, not mimic what the west wants the world to believe. go ahead lorenzo a. yes, of course i'm a teller has been involved in the since the beginning you down as we knowing the confidence to answer it. it's very important to after that, what they do, you the and also international low on which module what happens next to may depend on, you know, ukraine has been boasting about suppose count or fancies for moms. but they were not about video effective and only now often more than one year after it has meaning. massively farm is by the west of the nato, based off that encounter. fancy it. so i my opinion, i suggest that the ukraine does not or know long. it has the resources to sustain the work that so can a year, they have many best people. they have many problems. and only now they are finding kind of solution on the overhead as we know the president. so ask you,

went around to europe asking to everyone for money and with homes which you only do way. you know, i'm going to add anything of that. so the rhetoric of the western press is always contradictory. now, key of could happen best or again, if you keep on with this of the re 3, probably by continuing to promote the yes and the russian army, we can do our best. it may be on citizens, so again, it could make mosse and use of the government's resides by the west to try to regain a few tones. i don't believe, but wherever there, um they, we reside more with on some more hats for from made. so yes, of course natal wants to continue to work box very, don't know how to spend all of this morning. they don't have more research, especially because nato is using european resources to do that. so in the worst case scenario, do you have with pro such a strong counter attack from russia that it would be forced to change?

it's thinking about the strategy. and that's, that was seen a real to, i believe, however, that the russia will not respond. the email, again, demand box, we keep a fee agree on his bowl. so there's a criteria. and in this period, russia is we think is very important. i can see is all around the word for multiple or talk to ship a sofa believing nato and the countries of europe, the bit types of the meat of to natal increasingly easily to what that's made a theme i've been discussing ever since the start of the complex, i agree with you completely. brad. i mean, what is the best case scenario for this, you know, fabled counter offensive and what, what do they want to achieve other than to show their backers in the west that they're actually doing something. okay. i mean, that is a terrible waste of manpower. it's really well, it's not

a waste. it's disgusting. go ahead, brad. well, i think you see, isn't it exactly right. i mean, this counter offensive that he is launching or it's soon to be launching. is we all dissipate is completely a marketing strategy and they're doing it to show that they are actually, you know, a fighting force. it's capable of actually turning the tide at the conflict. now, you know, i saw this austrian colonel and he talked about why moscow strategy might fail, that, you know, they're digging in deep in the trenches and southern and eastern ukraine. similar to what france did with the marginal line. you know, at taylor folders through belgium and so a lot of people on twitter said, uh, yeah, i mean, uh what, what software a nation is ukraine going to both of those through to get to know these regions of ukraine that are now occupied by russia. uh, i think the, the strategic thinkers kind of overestimate themselves in the ability if you have right now. but i think, you know, what might come in with this was like, yeah,

i'm sure that a lot of people in the ukraine are versus, will definitely take inspiration from in their, in their offensive i'm, i'm fully sure of that and i think it's pretty well understood yeah, well the main browser for looking at offensives and it's made german are den offensive. and in 1944 which was obviously a failure. so um, but that was one way to great. yeah, that was one way to keep the conflict going. okay, let me go back to ralph, you know ralph, the, the, the, i'm really kind of sick and tired of hearing this conversation about a ceasefire. of course, we want the violence to and i know how it should end and they should be receiving change in, in care of. and that will be the start of the end of this conflict here. but in lieu of that, there's only a military solution. there is no political solution to this at all. a ralph had received at the end of the anybody who was trying to mediate in this conflict. and

lately we heard it from the silver, the president of brazil, who said that he wanted to meet the identity of them, talk a bit of a distance publicly now to watch rush out in order to become such play a box. um, nobody wants them to do it obviously, and i'm trying to also try to, to play that role and a sofa, couldn't so unless the united states of america and nato are agreeing to that. i don't see any jobs for a diplomatic solution here. and i, well, we have elections coming up in the united states, and of course there's conflict and ukraine is immensely unpopular there. i don't think that any cabinet a running for president or for senate now can say, oh, we want to continue for ever it with the you know, they, they around, i have to say, oh, we want to get out of it, but i, i'm raising. well, i don't know how to know how to know ralph. i have to push back a little bit on that. it's. it's another one of the themes on this program. this

isn't a lead project in a lead project, a nato, and a lead project in the united states. i mean, there's j. d vance out there. my favorite side are, but he's all the one person. okay. josh hallway is another. but, you know, a, there's a consensus of the leads. now if you go and talk to the rank and file, particularly among republicans, you're right. this war is not popular, is never been popular because nobody knows why the u. s. is backing the regime into . yeah. let me go to lorenzo before we go to the break here. so i mean, the reason why i say that can be no ceasefire because of that. the ceasefire is not a political solution and there's not gonna be an arm. is that like in south korea, that's not going to happen. go ahead. go ahead learn. so i think somebody believe that the sort of shop always succeeds. that's a problem that nowadays we don't to use a diplomacy enough and we don't teach more to do. we did pharmacy every time, so usually have because of his behavior of feeling their sales as the person,

the worse. so they have this kind of the demonic style in diplomacy. the problem is these key is that we're nap. no, no one of the words as being done by chance. no one ever comes by chance, but it's being afforded because what a ukraine, i think it's the leaves for years of plenty since the fall of the soviet union. so the current fleet has alternate logical scope, not just a political one, which is why i believe that americans, we never see kind of diplomacy. and consequently, of course, neither waves of ask you. yeah, but as lorenzo on so if you're going to have you're going to have diplomacy, then you have to have compromise. and that's something a. so i will never do that. okay. they may have that we ever do the interest need for a start too high for them because having a for lorenzo, let me jump in here. i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on defensive to stay with our team. the

take a fresh look around is life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions fixtures designed to simplify. it will confuse who really wants a better wills and then it just does it shows you fractured images, present it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground can

only one main thing is important for nauseous and internationally speaking that is of nations such as are allowed to do anything, all the mazda races, and then you have the mine and agents who are the slaves. americans, rock obama and others have had a concept of american exceptionalism. international law exist as long as it serves the american interest. if it doesn't, it doesn't exist by turning those russians into this dangerous boy, a man that wants to take over the world. that was the cartridge strategy. since i'm in the, in your industry, i'm a b, i not finished. it's often 0, but in tablet block, nato said it's ours. we move east. the reason us, hey jim, it is dangerous. is it the by the sovereignty of the countries, the exceptionalism that america uses and its international war planning is one of

the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what is founded, shareholders in the united states and elsewhere in large arms, companies would lose millions and millions or is business businesses good? and that is the reality of what we're facing, which especially the welcome back. across stock were all things are considered computer level to mind. you were discussing both ends of the army. let's go back to a brad in, in, in prague. you know, one of the reasons why i say there is no political diplomatic solution to this as well. in the last new cycle, we had petra porter shed code that 1st a leader of the post cool regime of both. i think it was to

a tally and media boasting how you know. all right, we arms ukraine, all you know, in lieu of the minsk agreements here. and so we had our anglo merkel say the same thing. we had whole lot and say the same thing. and now we have an in lensky even admitted himself. so, i mean, that's why i keep going back, there's going to be no diplomatic solution because there's no trust. why wouldn't moscow trust any of these characters when they gleefully admit that they were deceitful? go ahead breath. you know, the thing that i think is quite interesting about your material and this conflict is that, you know, someone who lives in the former warsaw pact, you know, you can really see that in a tremendous of part of the entire national identity of the checks slovaks polish folks, people up in the baltic states, a serious amount of their entire national identity is found on the rest of the public, are completely anti russian in decimating the russian population. picking them out,

treating them like crap things like this. and so you can see that there is a serious amount of, you know, people wanting to settle historical scores by jumping into this complex in ukraine and back here in the czech republic, riley, we're training thousands of ukrainian troops. and our eastern border is understands the lock is one of the same thing. and now apparently poland is training a large force that they are intending to use if you crane fails and they're offensive. and so what you, what i think really is that, you know, when you, when you look at europe, you start out the east and the you and you go west, there's more skepticism towards accomplish more west you get because people have a sort of, uh, well, i think it's sort of kind of in pragmatism, towards the snow and there is a certain amount of, you know, the, the, the population not feeling connected to it. i think that people in eastern europe, in fact, i know people in eastern europe here feel that well, that's because these people didn't have the so bad experience. they weren't oppressed by the soviets and they don't know what it's like to live in a rush or an occupation. that's what they say. even though i would argue that the

soviet union's role here was a bit more complicated now. so in many ways, constructive some ways, not so good, but you know, it's, it's more complicated that sense of all bad, like they've tried it painted as, and so, you know, people here in check republic, so back to poland, baltic states, as i mentioned, are there just angry and they're trying to take this out in any way and they tend to be the most violence of these people and they have such a large voice. and that you, you know, if we look at the entirety, the, you, the member states. yep. significant amount of these people are former your in warsaw pact, country that's right. and they're the ones who want to be they are, is basically the victims that the west has to always say that is their image or space. yeah. maybe they don't. you think broad that they take their cars, quote unquote, victim hood. and they say whole but we're washington is on our side now. okay. 100 percent? sure, exactly. oh, i mean, the baltic states do that all the time. you know, they fold their arms and it's a bit more planes. it'd be sent to ukraine, but they don't have any planes of their own obviously. okay,

let me go to ralph here. i mean, this is one of the most interesting outcomes of this conflict is we've had a tipping of a balance of power in europe. we used to produce really not very long ago. think of the germans and the french and the italians are being kind of the center ballast now is, can ship it all the way to the east and you know, why? because they, it's the new europe. it's the american sense of washington that is empowering these people and diminishing germany and france. ralph? that's right. yeah. but what was interesting here and i, i do agree with brad what he just said. of course, i know in the so called new york people are, you know, with their own history and historic experiences and so on day, but maybe more of the rep, i'm sorry to interrupt you. okay, my friend. okay. but anyway, i mean why, why are they so angry with the russians? they don't, but rather i agree with the germans anymore. i mean kind of explain that to me. oh yes, but it's, it's, it's real life, victoria, to say the people you've been in,

poland. i mean, they won't have a reason to be still upset about us because we have occupied them in a very, very nice to payment denazi's. and so, so, i mean, but you see even in germany now in east german, in the form of german democratic republics, which was part of the, of the soviet plus the states system. and now they are there, the population, there is more russia friendly. and in western germany, you will have more skepticism towards the restaurant. but in all of germany, you will have a growing this sentiment about this conflict because we are suffering in the way that we have our industry is being depleted to it from, but by not having enough energy resources, lots that to use to get from russia and all that, so people are now asking what else we do to help the ukrainians and can be not stopped to conflict. now especially since we know that obviously ukrainian terrorist threat involved in the bombing of the pipeline not stream to that was of

our interest to have gas delivery trucks. you know, that is now, but i mean, the publicity in this regard is going very against. 2 the support for ukraine, and this is all in germany and people asking, why should we suffer under this conflict? we are not part of it. we understand your brain is of trouble, the dresser, but what a step about us. so we don't have to is like the branch i said, what the east and why the new new republics of the european union had, you know that they had their own experience of the dresser and they are against the restaurant because of some solvent experience in east germany, it's vice versa. people the gentlemen that the soviet union does all the warsaw pact and went home. ok, i mean, and if you look in public opinion polls ralph in germany, year after year, i'm a pull reality of germans want the americans to leave the war is the about the time

a go? a man, there's something about the brand real quick before i go to lorenzo. go ahead. yeah . what, what i wanted to say is that, you know, in my opinion, it's really discussing that eastern european republics want to compare and accomplish down your brain to their experience under soviet rule. because on the one hand, they say the people i've talked to check officials, you cannot relatable as accomplishing ukraine by comparing what americans in afghanistan, iraq, but at the same time, bill pro 1968 product spring that you and so we know what it's like to be oppressed by russian. this is not the same thing. 1968 made the conflict. a new crane look like brick and broadway like cats or something is, is ridiculous to compare these things. and, you know, i discussed somebody here with the black. what i brought, i have to agree with here, you know, i'm of got died in the wall conservative, you know, russia, the russian veneration and the soviet union are 2 different things. okay. and in this broad brush here is very a historical. let me go to lorenzo, lorenzo. it was interesting in the last new cycle, the, the new york times remarkably,

came out with an article about the not see problem in ukraine, which of course, all of us know about it. but it's such a problem that the new, the new york times had to address it. okay. because it is so you, big to it is in ukraine. and this is, you know, i look in europe and i did graduate studies in european history. what happened to europe? i mean, is ukraine worth the destroying your your, your prosperity and, and your isolated and creating isolation on the world stage as i find it. this is one of the most astounding outcomes of this complex lorenza, a. yeah. doesn't, does. that's absolutely true. and i agree with the previous be is the problem. it actually is that we have it very rhetoric journal these 6 times here. the press specially i see here. we need to be completely changed the position comparing before and after the war. you have to know if maybe you already know that the 90 percent of citizens here needs only broiled l to russia. soviet against the coffee

by the government is completely so me to do. we need to and that you for out of. so which of the prominent that's what is happening is that of course, is what is destroying our economy, but it was a really hot to the by year. so call me go crazy is busy is because each only has been chosen. it has the leader you were up under the need to, to produce web olmstead, to santa web homes and all these things in the ukraine for the work. so that's a problem because we are investing a lot of money in the world and we are carrying about all the social world fair that we have here to manage. that's a huge problem and people fits these. what happened also needs are the we have after the what, what you, the full of the boss is, we have a huge propaganda against the providence of boss is may not shown at least at all, but 90 percent of governments after we were to where needed to buy the bottom left

. ok. what happened now is that we don't have more of this distinction between the rights on there and people from left are leaving the rest of what it exists, crazy. they are defending the nazi ukraine. it's. it's crazy. it's really crazy. i don't want it squared these, but the, when you tried to the front office, also the universities as i teach in university base a that be, is it has the founding, the defendants and also the termination of a nation. so that's important because these kinds of opportunities can be saved by the q this all the masses that it's completely weird. echo pickering don't say here . we say, how was this kind of propaganda? as we know, 50 pounds. i see, you know, he needs always because of our defendants by the united states. so we are border, which is the router. we have the router. well, this is, this is an app. the app that, you know, europe is advocated any kind of responsibility for a job, or it's a really,

really discussing around, you know, going back to the new york times piece. you know, it's really interesting. i know you follow american politics. you know, the, the, the, the, the establishment left will claim that there is a nazi under every single rock. but they will not, they will not recognize that there are nazis walking around in care of it. is it completely insane? it is a world turned upside down. ralph? yeah, and that makes me very sad because we saw that after 1945 really like doctors, fascism and naziism and that we know all about initially as well as in germany we are seeing government supporting, obviously nazi restroom and k f. i mean, this is so obvious and i'm really discuss it, but i want to say what lorenzo just said, but rightly be ok actually last summer in the sense that's all i would say it onto italy is not summer run because the u. s. are still dictating us what they're doing,

the well they take the lights in italy as well as younger and germany is actually really um, but they bought into that. they sold all the language and the media and so on. is pushing into that direction against the will of the people. so, i mean, the government initially now has changed a couple of months ago, but you know, it's still, it's the same agenda that we see across here. all yeah. how are you, what do you remember, you know, rest of on delay and she said we have the tools, we have the tools and well they use the tools on emily, gentleman that's all the time. we have fascinating discussions. what i think my guess when prompted by and, and emily and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t and see you next time and remember prospect rules the, [000:00:00;00]

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