and the majority of the population, including women and children, were forced to work on the rubber plantations. those who failed to fulfill their quota were beaten and mutilated to keep the congo these people under control. they gained set up the so called voice bleak which were punitive detachments that cast terror on the captured country and its inhabitants, fearing that their subordinates would simply waste bullets hunting for wild animals . the officers demanded that the soldiers gave an answer for every bullet used, and as proof presented a job hand of an african. it was not uncommon when trying to justify the use of the munition. the calling is to have your date of the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide. you know, late 20 years, the policy of the belgians lead to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside

the hall. across the genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. the hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, ukraine's long anticipated counter offensive has indeed begun, but it's not off to a good start. this does not bode well for the camp regime, and more importantly, it is a testament to the effectiveness of nato ukraine is failing. and so as nato, the

a crossing offensive, i'm drawing by my guess, rough niemeyer, we knew by he is chairman of the council for a constitution and sovereignty in prague. we have brad blankenship. he is a comm this at c g t n. a freelance reporter refreshing was as well as an r t contributor and in italy we crossed to lorenzo marie. but to me he is an adjunct professor of political philosophy. andrea politics a l d m international institute, or a gentleman, cross talk roles that affect, that means it can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate, let me on a route 1st and sunny do by ro mean there's been a lot of it is this account or offensive is turned into a mean in and out of itself. because if you look back and give it a wider angle here, the major backer of all this is of course, the united states and nato. and there's no indication whatsoever that the bye didn't ministration wants to see. this complet comes in any time soon. so it's a lot of talk about this here. and of course, you know,

we have this incursion over the last new cycle and already the new york times say, oh, this is just reconnaissance where the real thing, i mean this is a, this counter offensive is turning into a unicorn. ralph? a. yeah, but i agree with you, it is not as they seem to have expected it, but on the other hand, you have to study all the other conflicts that the united states and causal nato recently in the past decades now have entered and where these are proxy wars and the, the proxy war of course is by itself speaking that it is not to direct confrontation . so still they say that they are not on the ground, but we see of course that while they are while you see these parts is in the text and um, are even entering russia and i want to of even says, oh, it's not i was old address but who is it then, what it has to ask, and i believe that is the real strategy. of course, mr. biden cannot agree to and sees files of war. he has not entered officially,

but he will see these proxy was they have the tendency, like that's called the d. i've gotten used as a some of the ukraine right now. we will see for the next the cage probably always insurgencies from ukraine in territory, also into russian territory. and neither side can really say they want it. so also russia has difficulties to maintain the, you know, the, the regions that they have. and i don't know who was responsible for, for the damn the bro now level but was exploded to, you know, it's still not clear, but we will learn about that more. and i believe this is part of the strategy to do half this military confrontation going on and on and on. and that is the sad thing to say, it's not the direct wall between russia and they to box the proxy wall. and that's, that's what this afternoon. so that's a really good point lorenzo. let me go to you right now because the crane can't win . so why and the war?

that's a very perverse logic. but that's what we're getting down to because and you know, i think it's fair to say, i mean, again, it's shorthand ukraine's counter offensive. this is nato's offensive. b, ukrainian army was destroyed last summer. this is completely new equipped with all kinds of essentially junk. they'd be made to countries. i'm sent to ukraine. but this is nato's offensive. and i think we should we, we should say what it is. i mean, not mimic what the west wants the world to believe. go ahead lorenzo. oh, yes, of course i'm a teller has been involved in this since the beginning it down as we knowing the confidence to answer it. it's very important to us to what they do. you the, an ulta international low on which module what happens next to may depend. as we know, ukraine has been boasting about suppose capital fancies for moms, but they were not boxing, video effective. and only now,

often more than one year after it has to be massively farm is by the west of the nato, based off that encounter fancies. so i might be, and i suggest that the ukraine, there's not a or no long it has the resources to sustain the work that's so can a year, they have many best people. they have many problems and only now they are finding kind of solution on the overhead. as we know, the presidents that i ask you went around, you are asking to everyone for money and with homes which you only do way you no longer have. and if you go there, so the rhetoric of the western press is always contradictory. now, key of could happen best for a gain. if you keep up with this of the re 3, probably by continuing to promote then. yes. and the russian army we can you on that? so maybe on citizens. so again, it could make mosse and use of the arguments resides by the west to try to regain

a few tones. i don't believe wherever there um they, we recite more wet bones more had for from made. so yes, of course natal wants to continue to work, but they don't know how to spend all of this morning. they don't have more research, especially because nato is using european resources to do that. so um, in the worst case scenario, do you have with pro such a strong counter attack from russia van it would be forced to change? it's thinking about the strategy. and that's, that was seen a real and i believe however, that the russia will not respond. the email, again, demand box, we keep sea agree on his ball. so there's a criteria. and in this period, russia is sweeping, is very important. i can see is all around the word for multiple or talk to ship a sofa believing nato and the countries of europe, the bit test submitted to natal increasingly easily to what that's me the theme

i've been discussing ever since the start of the complex. i agree with you completely, brad. i mean, what is the best case scenario for this, you know, fabled counter offensive and what, what did they want to achieve other than to show their backers in the west that they're actually doing something. okay. i mean that is a terrible waste of manpower. it's a really well, it's not a waste. it's disgusting. go ahead, brad. well, i think you see, isn't it exactly right. i mean this counter offensive, but he is launching or it's soon to be launching, as we all dissipate is completely a marketing strategy. and they're doing it to show that they are actually, you know, a fighting force. it's capable of actually turning the tide at the conflict. now, you know, i saw this austrian colonel and he talked about why moscow strategy might fail, that, you know, they're digging in deep in the trenches and southern and eastern ukraine. similar

to what branch did with the marginal line, you know, it's hitler folders through belgium. and so a lot of people on twitter said, uh, yeah, i mean what, what software a nation is ukraine going to both of those through to get to, you know, these regions of ukraine that are now occupied by russia. this, i think the, the strategic thinkers kind of overestimate themselves in the ability of you have right now. but i think, you know, what might come in with this was like, yeah, i'm sure that a lot of people in the ukraine are versus, will definitely take inspiration from in their, in their offensive. i'm completely sure of that and i think it's pretty well understood. yeah. well the main browser for looking at offensives and it's made german are den offensive. and in 1944 which was obviously a failure. so um, but that was one way to great. yeah. that was one way to keep the conflict going. okay, let me go back to ralph, you know ralph, the, the, the, i'm really kind of sick and tired of hearing this conversation about

a ceasefire. of course, we want the violence, the and i know how it should in and there should be receiving change in, in care of. and that will be the start of the end of this conflict here. but in lieu of that, there's only a military solution. there is no political solution to this at all of ralph have received that anybody who was trying to mediate in this conflict and lately we heard it from the silver, the president of brazil who said that he wanted to meet the i don't even talk a bit of a distance publicly now to watch russia in order to become such play as well. um, nobody wants them to do it obviously, and i'm trying to also try to, to play that role and a sofa, couldn't so unless the united states of america and nato are agreeing to that. i don't see any jobs for a diplomatic solution here. and now, well,

we have elections coming up in the united states, and of course there's conflict and ukraine is immensely unpopular there. i don't think that any cabinet running for president or for senate know can say, oh, we want to continue forever. it was a, you know, they, they around, i have to say, oh, we want to get out of it, but i, i'm raising, well, i don't know. i don't know how to know ralph. i have to push back a little bit on that. it's and it's another one of the themes on this program. this isn't a lead project in italy, project, a nato and a lead project in the united states. i mean, there's j. d vance out there. my favorite side are but he's all the one person. okay. josh hallway is another, but you know, a, there's a consensus of the leads. now if you go and talk to the rank and file, particularly among republicans, you're right. this war is not popular, is never been popular because nobody knows why the u. s. is back in the regina into let me go to lorenzo before we go to the break here. so i mean, the reason why i say that can be no ceasefire because of that. the ceasefire is not

a political solution and there's not gonna be an armistice that like in south korea, that's not going to happen. go ahead, go ahead learn. so i certainly believe that the soul shop always succeeds. that's a problem then. nowadays, we don't use a diplomacy enough and we don't teach more to do good pharmacy every time. so usually have is this behavior of theme or sale of it as the person, the words. so they have this kind of a demonic style in diplomacy. the problem is this key is that we're nap. no, no one of the words as being done by chance. no one ever comes by chance. but as being afforded these were the ukraine. i think it's at least 50 years of plenty since the fall of the soviet union. so the current fleet has alternate. got the logical scope, not just a political one, which is why i believe that the americans, we never see kind of diplomacy. and consequently, of course,

neither we use of asking, yeah, but as lorenzo one, so if you're going to have you're going to have diplomacy, then you have to have compromise. and that's something a. so we'll never do that. okay. they may have that we have or do the interest need for a start too high for them because having a for lorenzo, let me jump in here. i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break will continue our discussion on defensive to stay with our team. the russian states never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best. most all sense and the in the system must be the one else calls. question about this, even though we will then in the european union,

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i was put in the middle of the of the welto back across the top. were all things are considered computer level to mind. you were discussing both ends of the army. let's go back to a brad in, in, in prague. you know, one of the reasons why i say there is no political diplomatic solution to this as well in the last new cycle. we had petra porter shed code that 1st a leader of the post cobra gene. a both so i think it was 2 a tally and media, boasting how you know, all right, re arms ukraine, all you know, in lieu of the minsk agreements here. and so we had out and with merkel say the same thing. we had whole lot in say the same thing, and now we have and, and,

and as a lensky even admitted himself. so, i mean, that's why i keep going back. there's going to be no diplomatic solution because there's no trust. why would moscow trust any of these characters when they gleefully admit that they were deceitful? go ahead breath. you know, the thing that i think is quite interesting about your material and this conflict is that, you know, someone who lives in the former warsaw pact, you know, you can really see that in a tremendous of part of the entire national identity of the checks slovaks all which folks people up in the baltic states, a serious amount of their entire national identity is found on the rest of the public, are completely anti russian in decimating the russian population. picking them out, treating them like crap things like this. and so you can see that there is a serious amount of, you know, people wanting to settle historical scores by jumping into this conflict in ukraine and back here in the czech republic where i live. we're training thousands of

ukrainian troops and our eastern border is understands the lock is doing the same thing. and now apparently poland is training a large force that they are intending to use. a few crane fails in their offensive . and so what, what i think really is that, you know, when you, when you look at europe, you start out the east and the you and you go west, there's more skepticism towards the conflict. more west you get because people have a sort of uh, well, i think a certain kind of pragmatism towards the snow and there is a certain amount of, you know, the, the, the population not feeling connected to it. i think that people in eastern europe, in fact, i know people in eastern europe here feel that well, that's because these people didn't have the so bad experience. they weren't oppressed by the soviets and they don't know what it's like to live in a rush or an occupation. that's what they say. even though i would argue that the soviet union's role here was a bit more complicated noticed in many ways, constructive some ways, not so good. but you know, it's, it's more complicated that touched all bad, like they've tried it, painted as. and so, you know, people here in check republic, so back to poland,

baltic states, as i mentioned, are there just angry and they're trying to take this out in any way. and they tend to be the most, the violence of these people. and they have such a large voice in the us. you know, if we look at the entirety, the, you, the member states, you have significant amount of these people or former, your in warsaw pact country. that's right. and they're the ones who want to be they are basically the victims that the west has to always say that it's their image or say, yeah, maybe they don't, you think proud that they take their cars, quote unquote, victim hood. and they say whole, but we're washington is on our side now. okay. on the present, the exactly, i mean, the baltic states do that all the time. you know, they fold their arms and say that more planes it'd be sent to ukraine, but they don't have any planes of their own obviously. okay, let me go to ralph here. i mean, this is one of the most interesting outcomes of this conflict is we've had a tipping of a balance of power in europe. we used to produce really not very long ago. think of the germans and the french and the italians are being kind of the center ballast

now is, can ship it all the way to the east and you know, why? because they, it's the new europe. it's the americans, it's washington that is empowering these people and diminishing germany and france . ralph? that's right. yeah. but what was interesting here and i do agree with brad what he just said. of course, i know in the as so called new york people are, you know, with their own history and historic experiences and so on day, but maybe by the rough, i'm sorry to interrupt you. okay, my friend. okay. but anyway, i mean why, why are they so angry with the russians and they don't bit rod angry with the germans anymore. i mean, kind of explain that to me. uh, yeah, but it's, it's, it's really like the code. yeah. to say that you've been in poland, i mean they won't have a reason to be still upset about us because we have occupied them in a very, very nice to payment denazi's. and so, so, i mean, but you see even in germany now in east germany,

in the form of german democratic republic, which was part of the, of the soviet less out of state system. and now they are there and the population there is more rational, friendly and in western germany, you will have more skepticism towards the restaurant. but in all of germany, you will have a growing this sentiment about this conflict because we are suffering in a way that we have our industries being depleted with from but by not having enough energy resources, lots that to use to get from russia and all of that so people are now asking, what else shall we do to help the ukrainians and can be not stopped to conflict? now especially since we know that obviously ukrainian terrace ro involved in the bombing of the pipeline not stream to that was of our interest to have gas delivery trucks or, you know, that is no. uh, but i mean, the publicity in this regard is going very against uh for the support for ukraine, and this is all in germany and people asking,

why should we suffer under this conflict? we are not part of it. we understand that your brain is of trouble with the dresser, but what is that about us? so we don't have to is like the branch i said with the eastern weather new new republics of the european union had, you know, that they had their own experience of the dresser and they are against the restaurant because of some solvent experience in east germany. it's vice versa. people the gentlemen that the soviet union does all the warsaw pact and went home. ok, i mean, and if you look in public opinion polls ralph in germany, year after year, i'm a pull reality of germans want the americans to leave the war is the about the time a go, a man or something about the brand real quick before i go to lorenzo, go ahead. yeah. what, what i wanted to say is that, you know, in my opinion, it's really disgusting that eastern europe and republic. someone to compare the complex down your brain to their experience under soviet rule. because on the one

hand, they say the people i've talked to check the visuals, you cannot realize, devise the conflict and ukraine by comparing what america did not be in a similar rock. but at the same time bill pro 1968 product spring that you said we know what it's like to be oppressed by russian. this is not the same thing. 1968 made accomplishing ukraine look like breaking broadway, like cats or something is ridiculous to compare these things. and, you know, i discussed the media here with the black web abroad. i have to agree with the, you know, i'm of got died in the wall. conservative, you know, russia, the russian veneration and the soviet union are 2 different things. okay. and in this broad brush here is very a historical let me go to lorenzo lorenzo. it was interesting in the last new cycle, the, the new york times remarkably came out with an article about the nazi problem in ukraine, which of course, all of us know about it. but it's such a problem that the new, the new york times had to address it. ok, because it is so you big to it is in ukraine. and this is, you know,

i look in europe and i did graduate studies in european history. what happened to europe? i mean, is ukraine worth the destroying your, your, your prosperity and, and your isolated and creating isolation on the world stage as i find it. this is one of the most astounding outcomes of this complex lorenza. yeah. doesn't, that's, that's absolutely true. and i agree with the previous be is the problem. it actually is that we have very rhetoric journal these 6 times here. the price especially i see here, we need to be completely changed the position comparing before and after the war. you have to know that maybe you already know that the 90 percent of the citizens here needs on the parole, the russia, sylvia against the compet bought the government is completely so me to do. we need to add these rather. so which is the problem and that's what is happening is that of course, is what is destroying our economy. but it was a really hard to the by year. so call me go crazy is this is because easily has

been chosen. it has the leader in europe. i'm the nato, to produce web oems and to santa web homes and bodies. these m. yeah, the ukraine for the work. so that's a problem because we are investing a lot of money in the world and we are carrying about all the social what a standard that we have here to manage. that's a huge problem and people fits these. what happened? also the needs of the we have after that what, what you and the full of the boss is. we have a huge propaganda against the providence of boss is may not some of these and all but 90 percent of governments up there. we went to where we needed to buy the bottom left. ok. what happened now is we don't have more of this distinction between the right, the left and people from left are leaving the rest of the way this crazy. they are defending the nazi ukraine. it's. it's crazy,

it's really crazy how long it's squared. is that the, when you tried to the front office, also the universities, as i teach a university base, say that be, is it has the found being the defendants and also the termination of a nation. so that's important. because these kinds of not see one of these can be saved by the, to this all the masses that it's completely weird ankle beginning on saturday. here we say, how was this kind of propaganda? as we know, 50 pounds. i see, you know, he needs only because of our defendants by the united states, which are the borders which we will use the roller wave, the router. well, this is, this is the magic add that, you know, europe is advocated any kind of responsibility for a job to. it's a really, really discussing around, you know, going back to the new york times piece. you know, it's really interesting. i know you follow american politics, you know the, the, the, the establishment left will claim that there is a nazi under every single rock. but they will not. they will not recognize that

there are nazis walking around in care of it. is it completely insane? it is a world turned upside down. ralph? yeah, and that makes me very sad because we saw that after 1945 really like doctors, fascism and knots has been that 3 now all in about a new to the as well as in germany. we are seeing governments of putting, obviously not see restroom and k f. i mean this is so obvious and i'm really discuss it, but i want to say, well, lorenzo just said better, rightly be ok. actually last summer in the sense that's all i would say it onto italy is not summer run because the u. s. are still dictating us what they're doing deep. well, they take cuz they live in italy as well as younger. and then in germany is actually really um they bought into that they sold all the language and the media and so on is pushing into that direction against the middle of the paper. so,

i mean, the government initially now has changed a couple of months ago, but you know, it's still, it's the same agenda that we see across here. all yeah. how are you, what do you remember, you know, rest of on delay and she said, we have the tools, we have the tools and well they use the tools on emily, gentleman that's all the time we have fascinating discussions. want to take my guess and prompted by and, and emily, i don't want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz the next time, and remember prospect rules the, [000:00:00;00] the public sentence. and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show search like why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't

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