and then i say we had a slight side issue though, but i think we still have you now considering this incident about the car cargo ski hydro electric font. how significant is that gonna help either side? when more visually they say is helping you brain because if you look at the need for re well, which is why don't the largest tree was in least in your group. on the 3rd show, the former soviet union, and the 2nd only the world in the european bought all the former soviet union. so the need for really is huge and, and the whole bank is the one controlled by ross and the one on the east. the bank controlled by your brain is in the west. that was a huge program for the red army in 1943 when ukraine will liberate that was be liberated that for all the nazi german aggress. so now the ukrainian forces, sorry, numerous better position because they are on the brighter and the villages and

towns controlled by russia flooded because that was the royal bank of the river. however, there will be some different causes for your opinions to be, was they the destruction of the dam, create that several huge won't be areas you have. so right in the areas which is they were poignant right there to maintain, you know, was it a lot of the law offices of hate saying, uh the, the equal give me a lot of losses and as i for rose here, region this counter offensive that's happening now the so called kind of as a if, if it doesn't get through and does that mean it's a no more counselor offensives the most likely yes because uh your brain, cuz because of what the potential for many such offensive so busy that resources the human resources of the country, so small of them the resources of russia,

which is more than 3 times bigger. but this is a tragedy of, for both congress because these upper over here region, it's mostly populated by a russian speaking people. and the people the vote at, at the that's around them in september of last year to joined russia. so when we see, when you see the slide, when you see people lean and when you see homes destroyed, these are russian homes destroyed. you know, these are our people and we feel very badly about. yeah, and there is going to be want to keep an eye on official vice principal. alice positively do that. thank you so much for joining us here at archie. my microsoft of this news, i'll be sure to check out. i'll hold the top so is on all to come on. so literally we'll be back in just on the 30 minutes, so it will hope you join us the the,

the hello, i'm manila chan you are tuned into modus operandi. as the us doubles down on its backing of ukraine, as joe biden says, for as long as it takes many others around the world, fear this is pushing the world to the brink of new clear war. so with the dues de clock the closest it's ever been to midnight,

and the collapse of several nuclear proliferation treaties will explore whether or not these fears are warranted. all right, let's get into the m o the, despite what the mainstream media tells you, the conflict in ukraine is unprovoked. if you've been paying attention, you know this to be a false statement. the slow brewing, coo and ukraine under obama, which then led to the my down massacre. the us withdrawal from the iran nuclear deal. and i n f. under trump, the phony baloney minsk agreement. now add the accession of finland into nato. further and circling russia who has stated time and time again, that having native weapons along as borders is an the essential dilemma for them.

that brings us to where we are today, the risk of nuclear catastrophe, whether due to war or to meet energy needs around the world. to help us better understand the nuclear risk, we'll bring in an expert in the field. kevin camp is a radioactive waste expert at beyond nuclear. he is joining us out from florida. so kevin, earlier this year, russia suspended, it's participation in the new start treaty. that was the last remaining nuclear weapons treaty between the us and russia. even though the expiration was set for february of 2026, but one of our opponents seemed to be making a distinction between suspension and abandoning the treaty, citing that russia would not be expanding its nuclear arsenal. this announcement comes 4 years after donald trump withdrew the us from the i f, the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty. how do you or be on nuclear read what

is tantamount to the collapse of all of these treaties? well, it's a very dire situation. the collapse of the treaty agreements about nuclear weapons between the united. ready and russia, i mean the bulletin of atomic scientists when it sat it's doomsday clock in january edits closest point ever since 1947, just 90 seconds to midnight. which means doomsday risk had only cited the prospect of russia withdrawn from the new start treaty as one of the reasons why it's not the clock so close to doomsday. and now unfortunately, russia has gone ahead and at least suspended years early before the expiration of the treaty. so, um, it is unfortunate um those were very hard won treaties and i'm taken back to my use a part of why i do this work and have for the past 30 years was growing up in

constant fear of the risk of nuclear warfare as a small child and of course it's not just me, it's not just be on nuclear, it's people all around the world who are kind of holding their breath as nuclear sabres are rattled on a more and more regular basis. so this is kind of a thrill back to the height of the cold war, which is no fun for anybody because one long move, one mistake, and it could be a catastrophic for the entire world. so a few weeks ago, joe biden made a deal with australia to sell the aussies. a number of us made nuclear powered submarines as part of the new august packed the president and made it a point to say that these aren't nuclear subs per say that they wouldn't be, you know, launching nukes under water. i'm paraphrasing, of course, but these are nuclear powered subs. what is that exactly? mean in terms of safety,

like what would happen if one of these subs wrapped well, it's um, perhaps true that nuclear weapons would not be supplied to the australians to mount on these nuclear power nuclear propelled submarines. but your point is a good one. i'll just quickly add that having such long range and such ability to stay under water quietly for such long periods of time does give australia a new military capability, which has long distance deployment. the ability to launch conventional weapons all be it anywhere in the world because that's where the subs can't go on nuclear propulsion. but your point, your question about the new crew nuclear propulsion itself is a very good one. there have the nuclear powered submarines last us us last week. we are powered submarines to the bottom of the sea. so as russia and certainly one it usually means is the docket, the entire crew for one thing. but beyond that,

you do have atomic reactors on board which are fuels with highly enriched uranium and the high level radioactive waste that builds up in the nuclear fuel. so what that means for the ocean, once a nuclear saw, is lost to the sea floor or it explodes. our implodes is that the sea cannot habits way with those radioactive poisons. and so there's going to be a release of the radioactive poisons into the ocean. yes, it's a big ocean, but these are alter hazardous. does that instead of deluding to lower and lower concentrations. unfortunately, because we live in a biological planet, they actually re concentrate up the food chain. so c, food could be contaminated with radioactivity and then consumed by humans from such radio, active poisoning of the oceans. and you know, just to raise another radioactive risk to the oceans right now,

the focusing by the h e. japan nuclear catastrophe has been bad enough already. in the past dozen years, but unfortunately, the japanese government and tokyo electric power company are talking about in planning any time now it could happen is soon as the spring, which is now, they're talking about beginning to dispose of radioactive waste water into the ocean on purpose and various governments, the russian government, the chinese government, korean government, and others have objected to this radioactive waste water dumping plan. and they have close to 1500000 tons of radioactive waste water that they want to dump into the ocean over many years. but they don't need to be doing this just a cost saving measure. they should be storing this radioactive wastewater until it radioactively the case. one of the worst ingredients in there is radioactive, tritium, which is radioactive hydrogen. it's very difficult to impossible to filter out

because it's so small in size, but you could store it and it has a hazardous persistence of a 123 years. so if you store it for just over a century, the radioactive treaty m, world k. and won't be there anymore. and so that's what they should do instead of treating the ocean like a radioactive industrial sewer. but in addition, i mean there are a lot of radioactive poisons in this wastewater focusing that h e a. and the same would be true on a nuclear powered supp marine in the fuel itself. if you were to lose the solved and the core would to flow into the ocean eventually overtime or right away, you have more than 200 radioactive poisons in there. some of the more well known ones are things like to tony m, several different different isotopes, which are much longer lasting the treaty. i'm trudy. i'm with a 123 years of hazard. but an element like to sodium 239 has

240000 years of hazard. so russia has just made a deal with its neighbour bell, a roof to build a storage facility for russian tactical nukes, near the bell of russian western border and exchange for russia, helping them to modern, modernize versus war plains, the surrounding nato. countries like last the list of wayne. yeah. and poland. they're uneasy about this to put it mildly. what are your thoughts on that? oh, it's another drawback to the height of the cold war. i mean, it was such a wonderful day in the early 1990 is when not only dollars, but also ukraine agreed to return the nuclear weapons of the soviet union, stored on their own soil. back to russia, making bella bruce and ukraine, nuclear weapons free countries, which was a wonderful thing, was real progress towards the ultimate abolition of nuclear weapons. which is what

has to happen as called for by the treaty on the prohibition of nuclear weapons. so for russian nuclear weaponry to return to the russian soil is not a good thing. it's very provocative. it increases the risks as the international coalition on the abolition of nuclear weapons. i can as pointed out the 2017 winters of the nobel peace prize, along with the body shop, the survivors of hiroshima and nagasaki. so unfortunately, the more nuclear saber rattling that happens in the world, the greater the tensions escalate to more opportunities for mistakes or intentional use of nuclear was coming up. next the u. k is providing the key of regime with depleted uranium shells. what does this mean for the long term health of those exposed to it and the environment will discuss it

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welcome back to the m o, i'm the know a chance in conflict zones. a lot of things could go wrong. as you might imagine, things don't always go according to plan. so why then is the u. k, providing a no cancer causing carcinogen to key of forces to use as weapons. kevin caps, or radioactive waste expert from beyond nuclear, is back with us to discuss. thank you for sticking around with us, kevin. so recently your organization beyond new, clear published an article regarding the u. k. government sending depleted uranium shelves to ukraine for use in the challenger to tags. can you talk to us about that piece? elaborate on it. what are depleted uranium shells? and why is this a bad idea? a while, i'm just to go back to the earlier question. actually vladimir putin sided, the british supplying depleted uranium munitions to ukraine as a reason, or the reason that russia would be deploying nuclear weapons to dollars. so,

just an interesting tit for tat, they're what depleted uranium, munitions are, are very solid, very dense munitions. and so they're sometimes referred to as tank busters. so uranium is the heaviest element on a periodic table, at least in nature or artificial elements like um beyond trans, your attic elements that may be denser and uranium. but um, it can provide a real powerful punch in, in the form of munitions used against tanks or other armor vehicles. where the problem begins, is that uranium itself in nature is radioactive, it's a toxic heavy metal. it's actually a hormone disruptor. and because the united states and britain and russia and other countries have nuclear power programs and uranium enrichment processes, there are mountains of depleted uranium. this is uranium waste that comes out of in

richmond facilities. fuel comes out, that's the product, but the by product is depleted uranium and now what to do with that it's a waste product. so a small fraction gets turned into these military, munitions. and unfortunately, they've been used by the americans and the british in places like a rock in both the 1991 war and the 2003 war they were used in kosovo. they're used at military bases in places like michigan where i'm from protesting or at the jefferson proving grounds in ohio and indiana. it's in madison, indiana, which is left behind a multi $1000000000.00 clean up bill because of the plate, the seated uranium testing that's taking place there. it's been used in puerto rico and it's toxic, it's radioactive, and it disrupts hormone. so it can do tremendous house damage, especially when it gets a tank, and then disperses as

a very find us that can travel with the wind. it can be inhaled, it can be adjusted through drinking water on the food supply. and uranium is a nasty element in nature with lots of radioactive decay products like radium, that is especially harmful to humans and other living things. so to be using it as an explosive, as an munition and more affair is just exacerbating all of these risks. so no matter what anyone thinks or where they stand on this whole russia, ukraine issue, the drums of war are beating louder and louder. that what many have described as a proxy war between the us and russia can easily become a direct hot war, which would then lead to world war 3. how worried are you that nukes could come into play once again, like her russian law or nagasaki. especially given that the. ringback day clock is now at 90 seconds to midnight. a while certainly there seems to be increased then

increasing risk of the use of nuclear weaponry. there's certainly nuclear saber rattling, going on. statements that posting has made. as i mentioned, there are us nuclear weapons already deployed in several european countries. as a colleague of mine, john, look forward to watching wisconsin was arrested in germany, not for the 1st time. spent time in german jail for his arrest. there are americans protesting that appointment of us nuclear weapons in europe, which has gone on for decades. and food naturally cited it as a justification or read applying nuclear weapons after decades back to dollars. so there is a lot of hypocrisy us simpler weapon should come out of europe. russian nuclear weapons should not be re deployed to the border of countries like poland and what the, when you and lafayette sonya. but i would like to add another element of the current

war between ukraine and russia. that is very alarming, is the threat to nuclear power plants and ukraine. so this operation, nuclear power plant and southern ukraine is the closest at the present time to the front lines. and don't take it from me, take it from the director of the international atomic energy agency, rosie who has won repeatedly for many months that has made a couple of trips. there is operation including recently he pointed out that this upper region, nuclear power plant has lost its connection to the electric grid some 7 times in the past several months. which means that it is thrown onto emergency diesel generators to provide cooling, to the reactor corps to distract the cleaner fuel storage pools. this is a very dicey situation. so if cooling is less the reactor course and there are 2 of them that are still in hot shut down, as it's called, which means they're not completely turned off. you could very quickly get into

a fuel damage or even a fuel melting situation. and in addition, the pools that store decades worth of high level radioactive waste and because there are 6 reactors of separation, one of the biggest nuclear power plants in the world, the biggest in europe. you have 6 pools of water holding decades worth of high level radioactive waste and if they lose cooling for long enough, they to, to go up in flames. so on, this would not be turn all this could be worse than channel because you have so many reactors and so much high level radioactive waste on that site. and we've seen from turnover just how bad that can be. only it could be worse here. and that's just lot lots of coolant. what if there were to be direct strikes during military combat? they're already banned explosions on the site. damage to the facility. luckily there haven't been radioactive releases, but it's really banned by locks because high level waste storage has been hit by

selling. so that's one to keep an eye on other nuclear power plants in, in ukraine. i've also been implicated chernobyl itself in the early days of the war, but other plans have had fighting happening nearby. so it's really, um, again, it's the i a e, a whose mandate is to promote nuclear power and supposedly regulated safety. but they do a lot of promotions and very little regulation. they're raising the alarms as to how serious the situation is. it is very serious. all right, let's switch gears a little bit here from nuclear weapons to nuclear power. i had of christmas 2022 scientists at the lawrence livermore national lab made history by successfully producing a nuclear fusion reaction that resulted in what they called a net energy gain that us officials allotted as a quote of landmark achievement. quote, a milestone of the future of clean energy. how do you respond to that?

what's the difference between this and standard nuclear reactors or when people say that nuclear energy is the closest thing to totally carbon free? or it's the cleanest form of energy we can produce. we're very skeptical. um the difference between vision and fusion is that and vision, uranium adams or petroleum atoms are being split. and the splitting of those adams gets off electricity that can be turned into, i'm sorry, gives off energy that can be turned into electricity through boiling water, turning turbo generators and steam. but of course you have high level radioactive waste. that's what those split atoms are. as high level radioactive waste, artificial elements that did not exist in nature and have hazardous aspects to put it mildly. what fusion is nuclear fusion is the fusing together of hydrogen atoms to forms, helium, adams. and in that, in that fusing again,

vast amounts of energy release that can be turned into electricity. but an aspect of fusion that doesn't get talked about very much, does that actually radioactive waste is generated? it may not be the same as that generated by vision. but it's significant, so one form of radioactive waste generated by fusion is tritium. we talked about it earlier in terms of the super stream of diet, g, radioactive waste, water, which is full of astronomical amounts of radioactive hydrogen, which is trillion. and so there would be significant generation of tritium by fusion that would have to be dealt with. then again, the tritium has a 123 year half life. unfortunately, the way that the nuclear vision industry deals with trudy, i'm is to pretend like it's not hazardous, but it is hazardous that can cause cancer. it can cause genetic damage. it can cost birth effects because they often just allow it to be released into the apartment because they don't know how to filter it economically. and they're not willing to

store it for a 123 years. so we could expect similar behavior with fusion pollution like trudy and just being released into the environment and enormous quantity is doing damage to humans and other living organisms down when the down stream of the food chain down to generations. but also the entire facilities at a fusion reactor would become radio actually contaminated through radioactive activation of the substance is used to form the facility. so that would be after that would have to be dealt with. but perhaps the real non started with fusion is that it's still 30 years away. it was claimed to be 30 years away in 1950. it's still 30 years away. only we have to keep spending incredible amounts of money to pursue it. we're talking not billions of dollars or tens or hundreds of billions, but if they were to go full scale with fusion, we're talking trillions of dollars. and it's just not ready for prime time. not

even close. and the climate crisis worsens by the year. and by the decade, we don't have time to wait around for fusion to show up. we have the answers now it's renewables and storage and efficiency. it's of course not fossil fuels. it's also not nuclear, neither fusion nor fusion. so we need to quit wasting such a vast amounts of money. and the final thing i'll say is look where this fusion experiment success took place at the national mix at the national ignition facility at the lawrence livermore nuclear laboratory, which is a nuclear weapons facility has done since the 1950s. and there are tremendous nuclear weapons proliferation aspects to fusion experimentation and development. so the nuclear weapons proliferation risks, the pollution risks, the astronomical expense, and the time it will take there all non starters for fusion. kevin caps from beyond

new, clear. thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. thanks very much for having me. so as you just heard nuclear experts around the world are sounding the alarms when it comes to the threat of nuclear war. while some described the i c relations between the us and russia as the new cold war. everyday people around the world worry this could lead to the next direct a hot war, which could end life on the planet as we know it. the dangerous game of chicken and dawn by america's military industrial complex. and the states desire to maintain unipolar, had gemini forces, the abandonment of diplomacy, and puts all of us at risk. that's going to do it for this episode. modus operandi the show that dig deep into foreign policy and current affairs, i'm your host may know a chance. thanks for tuning and we'll see you again next time to figure out the m. o, the,

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