to see, to see if some of the cop different wanted to see if that was the invoice or the easy to use those names and the the commer sanchez. i've been doing news over 30 years and 2 languages around the world. and here in the united states, i've interviewed some what for presidents fired by the largest uh, news networks in the world. and then co founded a publicly traded company from all of that, you know. busy learned that new should be honest, and it should be direct and impactful, and this is called direct impact. the i want to start by sharing a story with you. that happened to me when i was

a young reporter. why? because it's one thing to file reports about demonstrations that get out of control . and it's quite another to actually experience the demonstration that gets out of control. the media often seems to have forgotten about these soon after they occur, these demonstrations that get out of control, especially the ones that happen here in the united states. but we here in the us have in fact had more than our share of out of control demonstrations. even riots that at times resembled more zones. i know because, well, because i often found myself right in the middle of a right there, right there in the rides complete with the, you know, the boat provide stand the gas mask and you know, the whole 9 yards, for example, in 1989 race riots in golf miami after a police officer shoots and kills a teenager playing a video game, people take to the streets for 4 days and 4 nights non stop. it's about 6

riots actually. that took place in miami area over a period of about 9 or 10 years. and i've covered most of those. let me tell you what it was like. police cars are on fire. the night is lit up with tear gas. people are running and every which way and oh yeah, there's gun fire and i can hear it. and i start to hope that one of those bullets doesn't end up hitting my crew or me. so, why am i starting with this story today? because the western media, right media here in the united states, newspapers and the channels off off. and they've spent a lot of time playing up stories about demonstrations, for example, demonstrations in china. and as i watch this coverage of these demonstrations that

they've talked about over the last year, really in china, i asked myself if any of these reporters have actually covered a wheel out now to test that gets out of control. and i think of myself, apparently not during the latest cove in protest, for example, we saw headlines and reports like this. citizens all over china take to the streets, violent disturbances, police battle with protesters. yeah, there were protest in china. there's no denying that. but for the most part, they seem to be confined to stone groups of very regionally specific events regarding very specific corporate policies. sometimes even some of that just effected one particular building. in some cases, there were thousands of people, but in a country approaching what one of the half 1000000000 people is that really so much? is it, it's not. are they angry?

sure, they're angry. wouldn't you be after being locked down because of cobit, i know i was. but here's where the rubber really meets the road with this story when it comes to the difference in the coverage of this story. and what i am going to try to offer you here, just as i'm sitting here right now, just as i'm sitting here and talking to you, i can tell you that after co covering, we are wars by the way, and real riots, those images from china. i mean, i gotta tell you, at least from my point of view they, they're barely riots. they're protest. sure. but there's a difference. mean that hardly even disturbances. but that's not how they're described by the b, b, c, for example, or other western media. where the suggestion is that the country of china is on the brink of revolution. because of these protests,

let's talk my favorite word context, context. i have seen with these now somewhat faded eyes, but real protests and real disturbances actually looked like in my own country. right. i mean, i've seen hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets and protests over racial abuse, not once, but many thoughts. and rarely did the meaning of coverage as if it was a referendum on the government and the president at the time. and he has to step down. they didn't say that then at least out here so much so that we need to change the system. they would argue where they're doing china, but not here. i've also seen this. i actually have seen millions of americans take to the streets to protest the invasion of iraq right here in washington dc where i'm reporting team from right now. millions of people take to the streets because they're angry about the warranty. rock. millions of people take to the streets because of bankers who greedily destroyed our economy in what, 2008,

and not a one of them went to jail. and you know how the media covered, those particular protests, the ones where people got mad about the wars are the ones where people got mad about the, the banks and the bankers, apparently coveted. they barely covered, it may not be a huge protest then maybe they got a 32nd video on cnn or m s m, b c or something of the sort. 30 seconds. think about it in an hour long newscast. yeah. if a 100 people gather in protest in china or in russia or any other country that the state department has decided to target our media seeming as if they're working for the state department. as if upon their orders covers it. as if it were a revolution in the works, is it okay? it's not like this story shouldn't be covered. i'm not saying the story should not be covered in china or the protest or in any other country for that matter. they

shouldn't be covered. it's news, but it should also be put in context. and that's what seems to be best and, and that's what i would like to add. and to do that, i got just the right guy. i want to do sure to marco fernandez, researcher at the tri continental institute for social research. marco, thanks so much for joining us now. i understand you lived in china, right. you were there during the cold bed locked out and all that. yes, i live in china in the last 3 years actually the whole time they make, i was in china specifically these days. i'm not but i'm coming back soon. hopefully we dial crazy. so look, you're the perfect person to ask this question too, because you live there. right. what was it like during the lot downs during the pandemic? or yeah, well basically the 1st 2 years 2020, and 21 was basically

a very normal life. we didn't have coven in china, i mean, after the controller and they're mixing one. uh, we had a pretty normal lights for 2 years. i lived in sha hi, this whole, this whole time before moving to b g. and actually it was up for, for, for me talking to, for us and my friends and family in brazil sometimes was a, i was even getting a little bit youtube because, i mean, it was a tragedy, 700000 people die in my country. and i mean, everybody was like losing friends and family and we're just there in china leaving a normal life and just i don't know, like rudy for people to the conditions to improve. but of course, um i also lived this last months in china and especially to look down shanghai that was those wild actually was $71.00 days i was in love down, but it actually was pretty necessary at. 3 moment what was the,

what was the general feel of the people in china like during that period as well. i mean, specifically show, hi, it was, it was a, some details like 1st of all the 1st of all, nobody likes to be locked down. nobody likes to be at home for so long it's, it's really sometimes can be kind of annoying and sometimes the pressing, etc. i mean, i had up $10.00 all the time. so was a tough experience for everybody. but at that point, um, it was a general also uh assessment from from the government from the health authorities that at that point i mean cron of ryan's was still a correct to uh to the, the, the house of the people. so and, and also show hi actually mate made a mistake, a few, a few weeks before shanghai. there was also now break in june, said in the south. and when they had like maybe a 10200 cases a day,

they just shut it down. the whole city they, they, they started locked out, it left it for one week. they control and life got back to them. what did they say? sorry you got to stay in your house. you got it. you can't leave that. did they take care of people? did they? did they? i'm curious as to how they handle this lockdown situation. did they provide food for people in their buildings? yeah, i mean the show hi. the experience we had at the beginning was a little bit confusing. the, the, the for either for ordering like privately, but also the government also started to, to provide for, for millions of people. so of course they took a few weeks to like sort of adapt, but that was after like 3 weeks, something like that. everything was, was sort of normal. but yes, i mean, most of the people also in shanghai leave in big cities believe in big compounds. the like many buildings, so also they have control of that. and also one very important thing in that moment

when you need to mobilize the whole society. this is a very important and i to, to acknowledge the role of the party. because i mean, the body has 97 medium members, body ease in every corner of this, the sites. so every time you have something, some, some challenge that needs to mobilize the whole society. you're going to have the, the members of the party in each community, each compound, each village to make sure that the measures are implemented so that what was happened in char, hi, let's do a little comparison thing. how do you compare the effect or the dealing with cobit in china, as opposed to how it was dealt with in the rest of the world? i mean, obviously look at everybody experience colbin right in one way or another, and nobody liked it. but, but it was dealt with differently in a lot of different countries. well,

i think the most important thing to start any conversation about cove it in, in china compared to other places in the world, is that in china we had 5200. that's in 3 years compared to the united states where there were a 1000000, that's what made and united states that a 100000 members in my country. i mean, i mean, i don't know how many hundreds of of, of thousands in europe, it's cetera. so, so that's the 1st thing i mean, that was you can even say, okay, maybe the government made a few mistakes in that, that, that moment in that moment. yes, of course, they made mistakes, lots of mistakes. but this mistakes didn't cost lives of people. and even in the, in the, in the mom that this, this one of the highest moments of cove in china, which was a lot down show high, i mean show high is a huge global economic hub. financial hub trade hub, of course, the law. so it was

a, a heat in the economy and all the 1000 and actually china in the last months, of course they, they are, it's, it's a challenge for the economy. but one thing that, for china, it's, this is very simple. i mean, they put people 1st. yeah, the economy suffers a lot and especially does last year. but what is the price you have to pay when need and that so we can keep the, the rights of people to move individually and, and, oh, and the kind of, and by the way, if you go to the economic figures, come on, china did better in terms of did you pay for us and then us or europe in the last 3 years. all right, bar code. do me a favor, stay right there, cuz i want to come back to you cuz there's lots of lot, lots to talk about here. but i want to tell you that i have a pod cast where i as a journalist, as a latino, as the co founder of a 1000000000 dollar company, share my stories of how i've lost and how i've one from well

mistakes for the most part. it's called the rick sanchez podcast. i invite you to check it out. but when we come back that side on that bridge, where it asked for president, she to step down is something you need to know about something you don't know. and we're going to share it with the a a . so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race based on a very dramatic personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very create ticket of time. time to sit down and talk.

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fixtures, design to simplify. it will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented? it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the right i want to show you that image. now, that made headlines worldwide. it's a, it's a banner that is hung on a bridge, which criticizes the government with some really strong staunch words in china. here's what it says. we want to need not to occur on a virus test reform, not the culture revolution. we want freedom. it reads not locked outs, the elections, not rulers, we want dignity not lies to be citizens,

not in sleeved people. that's what it says. and then on the 2nd banner, which is what has really set the media's hair on fire. it says remove dictator and national trader, president, she, you know, there's something about that banner that i just told you about that you need to know about. and, and it's going to come out in the conversation with uh, marco fernandez, research or a try continental institute for social research. we're going to get to that in just a minute. but let's start with this and you're a guy in china and you're there. so, you know, and you're frustrated. look, you're frustrated because you've got, you can't, don't have access to food or you and you your board, you've got to stay home. uh, you can't send your kids to school. um, you know, you're a worker who just wants to go to work. i mean, you like your job, but everything is shut down. it's frustrating. at what point did that person in china really steal the need to go out and, and, and, and protest shoulder anger. so yeah, that's

a very good point because actually what happened is that there is a, a sort of like, um, not so accurate and narrative from western media regarding the process. remember that the process happened actually few days after the government launched the 1st 20 new measures regarding corporate, which was the beginning of the opening up the beginning of the the flexible is ation of distribution of the discrepancy of the restrictions. what happened in those days? right? after is that there was, of course, china is a 1400000000 people, a country. i mean, every time you have a new measure come from the central problem. i mean, you don't apply these to each village each quarter of the society in the next day. this takes weeks, sometimes a couple months to be implemented. so what happened is that those days particularly was that of course people was already fired,

frustrated after so many restrictions and then so many insecurities because i mean that happened with many people. i mean one day you're in your home and the other day you can lead. so of course everybody was by it. but what happened is that there was a new loss of the government say okay, no more locked down. so if you have, i don't know like 5 cases in the beauty, but the local storage is we're still doing what they've been doing for the last 22 years. so of course people like getting angry because say okay, but the comment just mounts the new measures. it's here, but the local courts like okay, we don't know, we're still waiting for the new measure meant that so what you're saying is that for the bureaucracy is what created the backlog and frustration, which then led to the protest. i to exactly and also this is very common, this happens a lot also of course, sometimes the local authorities,

they would be even more strict than for instance, like a central government rule because they don't want to be blamed. this was a huge burden for all the local authorities in the last 3 years. is that okay, am i going to be the, the duty for, i don't know, the new upgrade coming from she on, because i didn't, i didn't do what i should have this happen to show hi. actually, people were very angry about the, the, the why you didn't should, i should love the created love down in the beginning. people are angry because of that. so this is a constant battle between local and central authorities in china. let me ask you this how, how would you characterize the protests? i mean, it's almost ironic, right? but here in the us, we have protests with thousands of people are killed where buildings are burn. we have riots, we have disturbances in the streets, but now the western media, our media here in the united states,

is pointing to china is protests and saying those protests, those protests are out of control. well, i mean, the demonstrations was actually pretty small in terms of number of the most methods. one wasn't show high on the weekend 2 days after the new measures. maybe like 2000 people were there. you had like a few other cities with maybe a couple of hundreds or a few hundreds. but of course everything happening in china that apparently something that is against the government, which i don't think was the case, was not against the government. but i mean, let's put this way, of course, if there's 50 people or even like one vendor over the reach, as we saw before, the national congress of c p. c. it becomes like headline everywhere in the western media. i mean, you're saying it was exaggerated. it was because it was so small, of course that was practice is it does their process. and in china all the time,

i mean their workers doing strikes all the time there are people going to so for me to, to like complain about the government. of course, people won't complain about it, but between, i mean in between come play and like once she dial with she or doubts, if you see, come on, come on in. she'd never had so much support in this 10 years. the perspective that we have here because it's been put in our heads by the media, is that the government controls everybody in china to the point where anything they do, they're going to get in trouble for. and the fact that these people were protesting is why the media saying we should all be shocked. is that fair? it's not, i mean, this is also exaggeration because, i mean, there's

a big the public debate in china bubble, many issues. so protests are common or they are they common they're of industry. it's not so much. not so much. this is true. i mean process are common specially regarding labor issues or environmental issue. sometimes the community can do a process because i don't know, there is a factory that is polluting the river. that was but hundreds of thousands of process in the last 30 years in china because of, of this, of i don't work is going to strike because of salary of better conditions of work. so process the all the time. but one thing that was very interesting, this is, i mean, i confess i had no idea before coming to, to even china. is that how much, how much the government listen to people, even in social media, is very common for us. and in china, the government announces a new, a new law. i don't know regarding marriage or regarding labor issues. and the 1st

thing to a consultation for this, the sites, they have many different channels to do consultations in the whole society. but even social media, sometimes people react angry in, in, in social media about some, some issue. and it's very common that the government actually stepped back and say, okay, we're going to really discuss this and come with a new solution in a couple months. so i mean this, this narrative that china, everything is control is a one big feature, like the siding of, uh, over the life of 1400000000 people. this is, i mean, nice to talk to any chinese person who was like, oh my god, but how can you, how do you guys think that this would happen? we would work. i mean, you don't keep power 73 years as a communist party of china. if you're not, listen to the people, if you don't you for what the people needs. in fact, i'll take it a step further. generally speaking in the media here, you know,

whether you read the new york times and watch the post or cnn, or whatever. the feeling is that anybody who stands up and speaks out gets g criticizes president g, the president of don't make a disappear that got that person will probably never be heard from again. true. sure. not true. so i don't think so. i mean, this is the example i'm giving to you. of course. i mean, it doesn't need to be like a grievance in against she even because she's so popular to be honest, is way easier. that for instance, you criticized. i don't know the mayor of the or cd or the government of your province because to be honest, i mean, i don't think she was ever so popular among amongst, especially among the people, the working class, the peasants, etc. so i think this is, i mean of course in china doesn't have the same way of, i mean they, they, they also say, i mean we, they, they say we have also a democracy is a different kind of democracy. it's not like you're going to vote for president

every 4 years or in the middle of the election. you just change the house of representatives and just make the government a mess because the president doesn't agree with the, the congress, etc. but, but china has their own way and i don't, i mean, if people were to be angry, you don't control the control that much people with just with refreshing. this is, this is a fence, a z of, of, of western media of, of a russian societies. that's amazing. think about that. thanks marco, for the interview and uh for your time. you know, i want to share my mission now to the mission of the show and simple, really. i want to the silo the world. we've got to stop living in these little box truths. don't live in boxes to show me where i'm actually interest. and i'll be looking for you again,

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