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duplex, which is what you're trying to make, is that yes, they're gonna, they're going to exaggerate everything possible against the russians, including anything that happens nuclear. anything will be built up into some sensational event, although there is in fact no actual trip. the see the com is full of so many interesting. so as you go to take this out, i will be back at the top of the out the acceptance. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show . search like why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do i have the state department to see i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and
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take a fresh look around, there's a life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground can what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy from foundation, let it be an arms race based on authenticity. very dramatic. the only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk
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case of china. it's the, the us elevate to tie ones, international status. you see you have no say pollute, sees visits, which already created crisis. anthony clinton, on short, china wilson thoughts a military operation. there was, i haven't even have notes. i don't have even doubts about the we have speculation mainly from the west start south africa on china, may swap as hosts of the upcoming brick summit, the background to the, the international criminal court. at one thing vladimir put in to be arrested noise
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. so it's off for a can ministers have said that's at not going to happen. they mean remain focused on having august summit in johannesburg. what is the situation as far as we know on that? look, i agree with the position of the ministers all systems go as far as the guys can send the summit, the big summit. will it be in south africa? but the question of switching, i do not know how that could have happened. because number one, the pro says for the preparation for the, for the assignment, says only gone in as far as the medium of the meanest as the 5 brakes ministers that took place in cape town last week. now, there would have been no decision that would have been taken because the minis size
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can only take the commendations to the summit and of cause one would expect that there would be into action even between the summit, between the precedents. but as far as this decision to switch the saw me to a 2nd country, we are not to way off. but also i can also share with you that they have even been the speculations that we picked up, that it might even be switched to another side. the country was i may but but to have the meanest, as i say you, the position still remains as far as the guys concerned, the summit would be held in john has. but that also is, it was talked about that that legislation might be implemented and said that, forget the south african law above. and that's all of the instructional criminal
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court as well. so that would be interesting to on the wrong vacations for south africa in that regard. it typically, typically, no knowns, the minister of foreign affairs, the kind of lady upon the minister of international relations has already instituted a mckinney is a web i, there would be diplomatic immunity for or how to use individuals and organizations that will be attending the big summit now again, remember, this is again, part of the framework of the i c c itself. so, so the guy's not doing anything unknown. so i would of the framework of the i c, c. and it is that engagement the laptop bought that so definitely got talked about
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that we really engage with the pod to use and really engage with the process. is we really setting to the processes within the framework of the of the i c. c. perhaps related to the, to present sort of around the post that has said south africa would be quote, at not drawn into a contest between global powers. could you perhaps expand on, on which international forces are trying to perhaps pressure your country into, into confrontation? why would that be? look at 5, that would confrontation we, i'm not that way. so that's the gulf in the country that is pushing us to a confrontation, confrontation for what goodness on the bible. so that's what the question of south africa does not aligned position on the conflict that these existing. now that i just thought it kind of reasons,
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they started color fits long before this conflict start to you think that non into the non aligned position of so i'll see that emanates from the time when. so i think i became a member of the non aligned government if you would remember due to shooting the conflict between the west and the then if so the guy as always, taken a non aligned position it's, it's a continuation of the position of south africa and by the way, so it does because foreign policy is and cut on non alignment, especially with the military conflict all over the world. there has been no time without also the guy has taken sides in any conflict. just expanding on that recently various lists of express the opinion that south africa is neutrality with
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regard to the cleaning, conflicts has been compromised by perhaps strengthening of ties between moscow in south africa. some argue that a, that a situation could squared away for an investors just looking at some of the figures here, south africa, could lose $30000000000.00 some of us to, for the export revenue. how does your confuse neutrality being compromised? it says the guys confidence, so i'll say because non aligned position, i do not see of the how we can be confront wise. because the relationship between south africa and any other country in the world has always been. so it's not something new. and we have had trade relations with every body in the world. and i know a sniff no stage. have we ever compromise the position of our trade with any ad the country?
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now the other point about this trade is a 2 way code by it's very nature, it's not like here. we're talking about those enough funding that. so definitely guys getting no, it is trade. any country that invest in south africa, it is a, by luck to the issue because between that country and south africa and so has played been going on between south after the game, any other country in the world. so what trade we've actually had that we had developing should not hear the as far as i'm concerned today is split and it has a reality. we've seen just to change that topic a little bit. here. we've seen a number of countries step off to offer at peace resolution initiatives in the last
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number of months to the ukranian conflict at no, it's quite an exciting time because african nations have come together on our being . so i'd have for can lead at, for their proposal, which will be brought in the next couple of weeks next week. maybe as well. what's your thoughts and not because other piece proposals have either being rejected out of hand by one side or the other. what come so that for kept bringing to this that perhaps others haven't. okay, look for 1st and foremost, let me made you did a point to the, to the of the top piece initiative for the diplomatic resolution of the conflict. it's different in the sense that we have seen for the 1st time, a group of nations. 6. no, i've tried it, it's 7. now,
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7, all 3 can states have come together to id. they up part even attempt to resolve the conflict. that's number one. number 2, as my president was saying, the other day the division of the 7 lead does not come in with any proposal. we are not come in. we offer the guy's not coming with any of the road map africa as my president, who is the spokesperson of the group as a teacher related in the past 2 days that we are coming, as us pretty got to listen. we went to understand what type of issues that led to this conflict, you know, so they, i know proposed as,
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as far as far as i'm concerned. but we can, we felt funny to hear say that to the meeting is actually going to take place in saint petersburg. or the 1st part of the meeting is going to take place on the 16th in keels with president of the landscape. yes, it's actually to be specific on the 16th. and then on the 17 validation, then of the 7 herds of state, we've been meeting with president, put you those are the advertisements now for, for, but it is to come and listen to what type of issues and it would be expected of cause i'm, i think the precedents would also be sitting guidance as to how can africa assist in this process. so that's a great in particular since last year. so i'll think i has always maintain the
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position that in order to attempt to resolve this conflict, south africa, we joined a group of countries that, that you've got to assist in resolving this, this conflict. they want to see peace, the bottom line of this f for ease peace, because there's number one, the conflict in the between the russia and ukraine is impacting on africa. yeah, hunger. uh not, not the main just hung down. here you see of a so i mean africa have go down the road, a road map for its development. we've got to plan, which is the agenda. 2063, the arthritic. how we want by twin do 63. where do we want to
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see? after the got to be 50 percent, 50 to 60 percent of the words mean that already saw see if they come from africa, the continental then don't with the, with the, with the resources and for us in order for us to get to progress would development is need that and this is what agenda 2063 maps out. 10 years to also on the agenda 2063 is the, the african free continental fade area. that is of that. now which 6 to in color kate, in from african trades. you know, so as to stimulate development. now those are the 2 key focus
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areas. but seriously, the challenge is i'm probably was then we are afraid that that agenda 2063 might be late as a result of that. because remember, as i said earlier, we are looking at the trade with everybody. that is why we had a meeting last december, the, the u. s. africa leadership summit. very successful. we are going to have the last year off because i mean, in st. petersburg now. and i can better use the, the, the key thing that after the car is gonna be putting as top of the agenda is going
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to be the support for agenda 20. 63. the support for of that is what i'll for the guide because it's our developmental road map cannot it just touched up on another aspect of that, you mentioned the african concept of free trade area. there's increasing pun african payments going on, is up because you need a focus on, on african integration is about the key as you see, that roadmap for 2063. how to deepen ties on the confidence so that i'd side. and so what's the interference? others would say trade, depending on how you look at it, that it has to be african 1st african that, that is specifically for us to drive the trait. the interest of the country off top is developing the african payment system. how
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successful as up being the look, it's steve at its engine, say, intensive page. it's steve at its infancy stage. it has not been fully implemented. it's a process. and something else with potentially huge relevant cations. the brazilian president is pushing for the creation of a common currency for bricks. countries is ops are a, is it a realistic proposal? is it something south africa would like to see on what could be the main stumbling blocks to, to that's coming in to be a number one in the meeting, or for the next 40 minutes. those that took place in taped down last week, attended by lead by all the breaks. 40 minutes does the shep pause and the sous shep has who are assisting the ministers in terms of the
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big program. so i think i, as the chair of picks this year, we are aware that this issue was one of the agenda points that we've discussed in the midst of discussion. it's not being driven by one, but due to la country, it's something that brooks has said, let us look at this as a possibility. and so i'm going to accept that. now that would have been no conclusion on that particular one. because again, as i said earlier, the pro says is from the source, strep of, i mean the shape of the sleuth shape of, of the 5 brakes countries having to take them to the menu. spousal 40 no says now of cause from the mean is does
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a 40 know save it. you to go to saw me to know where a decision it would be taken or not to be taken in relation or it might say there are certain things that stephen needs to be looked into in relation to just because i have personality. i do not believe it's going to be a once of the light switching on an electric switch to say it has got to happen. now. it really have to be a product of stages. it was definitely pretty to that stages because i'm not sure not a legislation's not sure. now the process is will stay and have to play it spot in resolving the issues. but it's a fascinating topic, isn't it? because we're increasing seeing countries attempt to trade in their own currencies by law for trade away from perhaps the us dollar, that the trend of the dollarization has seemingly been well, it started you,
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you had china, you had. so saudi arabia use other nations attempting to do that, cut out the middleman, is that something south africa wants to see. it's a process. it's a process one south africa, in principle to take supposition that we really have to engage with this process. then south africa will have to go into its own domestic policy, has its own domestic laws and take the public to gather in resolving the eastern. so it's, it's not going to again, it's not going to be something that the, with the i don't believe that is something that would take place in august. it might, are shot a process to discuss the issue of the western. so hara then, and that's being of course, a big issue between morocco, a large area and they that the status of that,
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of that large area in western western africa. what steps does victoria take on that? we see that problem as a colonial appropriate. hence, we are saying that the last remaining colony in africa would be that as a lucian of that problem of the west and so hot. that is why we have always been supporting you. and as a lucian's that the we have been passed in the relation to the heart of the most data for them to resolve the problem of the west. and so how do i have been and i'm by so that in the twitter to the west. and so how to between $20.00 oh $7.00. up until the 2012. i've usually tested that after the 7, but if you just skim inside with them out of jerry. yeah. i've met
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owner to people today. we have grown up in the web born in the refugee camps. they know of no other life but that f u g life. and they are still there. close to about what close to about the last time when the spain withdrawal from that to and clave it should be about close to 50 years now and it's still continuing up to today. so. so of it goes, position is that is always the problem of the western. so how to do you color nice. the d v v v v v v v v vi enclave. and let's the people of wisdom. so how do i decide whether they want to be incorporated into a motorcycle or whether they want to be independent because this is what the
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supposed to be all about. but unfortunately, the up to today we have nothing is all of the, the, the, the, the, the of the, the, the western. so how do i conflict? but the positive thing is, as you would know, the policy side of your friends that represents the interest of the people. also the thought always. he's a former member of the a you and we always advocate this. so definitely got the participation of very present a to of, of this started out with people in all of the photos of the what that is why they've bought a representative at the u. n. the
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other way, lot right across the border brother push for me to put when it was are up and one of the so some of this so basically of course
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