now, professor shank, as you pointed out in your articles and lectures historically, the russians and the chinese have had many, many disagreements under communism who actually support a war. and after the collapse of the soviet union, we had roughly $8000.00 boarded disputes. what has allowed these bilateral relationship not to be hampered by all these disagreements and ultimately get them to fuse? well, i think the pregnancy is, is the key here. um, i think both china and russia off the, in the cold war has done one important thing that is totally ignored spot outside or the west or that is the made almost 20 years as was, was through secret diplomacy of separately there large number of all the disputes are used to say we have 7700 opposed to just do stuff is

a ball. the dispute could be triggered for any kind of conflict between 2 countries . to share such a long coming frontier, i believe missed the coaching, actually corrected my data. of the one point i was attending while day love in the city. he said was a 1000, i believe because they thought nice was a patient diplomacy. we are dealing with real issues that are affecting peace cause nobody give us a piece, the price of cost. no bill noble piece faster than what never gives us. i can't resist sharing that with our audience because i learned it from, from the lecture that the china is language used to have a special term for the russians. which literally translated as the old harry man and metaphorically, man, worse than barbarians to the european barbarians or the christian barbarians. i suppose. i wonder if you have point any new term for us, the russians now it i don't have a new new orders. i think. well,

you, you cause a, uh, some, a brotherhood i would say, uh some, uh, yes, its not as i say, relationship improved based on the sincerity of both sides to resolve the real issues. and, but you also, you don't have to pay attention to the original organizations, china, and the russian issue, which is shanghai corporation organization. this is the only regional organization china, actually in the shape and a to participate, you know, in order for that to proceed. uh, the 2 sides had to believe in some sort of ecumenical a piece rather than the conditional democratic piece. i mean, maybe they know it's have side if your concept, but there, there should have been some idea that we are on the equal basis here and peace in is in our mutual interest. based on that, do you think it's fair to put the russia in the western county? because i think that all the russian history on, throughout many wars,

we have thought what we have always saw um, you know, fair piece with our adversaries rather than uh, you know, making advantage of them. but the russian has one historic problem. they have not been able to deal with, that's my view. the so called the you're asian complex. whenever they have a chance, they prefer to integrate with wisdom part of the, of the russian world cup. but so often used to say common your open house. it's a wonderful idea, but they all from the encounter rejections on the west and pardon for one reason or another at that time, russian seemed to be moving towards the east. this is a typical rushing behavior. now, my personal view is russian still have that complex with them. of now asian sites become far more important full then they are,

may seem to be able to overcome the complex. they begin to realize the rushing china relationship plus central asian countries together. a quote created a common community dock wilmont a peaceful euro, asian hostile as well as your point to asian part. we don't know about the euro part, but the professor shrank. we have to take a very short break right now, but we will be back to these fascinating discussion in just a few moments station. the the,

[000:00:00;00] the welcome back to wells, a ports with launching chang distinguished fellow of the students and center in washington dc. professor showing before the break a, we were discussing the so called the russian, your region complex, which i think would be more accurately termed as russian into your order to accomplish before that you repeat, because they always saw that everything you know,

most inspiring and enlightening is a, somewhere in the west, but i think this shift that you mentioned is happening not only because of rushes, newly discovered interest in the east, but also because of the russian realization that we ourselves may be a civilization in our own right. and that we don't need to, we can corporate with all nations on an equal basis, but we don't have to change ourselves to be lives or approved. i wonder and i, i would ask for an honest answer from you. do you believe that russia rises up to a level of civilization? it's hard to say, i'm sorry to say that because the russians baseball is scott, for a barrier between a tea button rose. from the very beginning, you will have an empire. you never have a russia meet in the strict sense as a nation state. so you are used to an employer,

but you don't know how the run the state basically. so this is, i think you only have a state of russian state in the very short periods of time, which is very different from china. the china has a state essentially states since the 221 b. c. there was a note dispute about the time likes. so russia probably still need to learn quite a long time how to make a russian state for a civil civil civilization. um, i do not see it for now, but the, i think the russians were striving for it. i think this 14 has a great edition. try to make it's a russian civilization of i have delta to believe. is it going to happen very so now, professor showing, regardless of whether russia is a state or civilization, it wants to leave its own national destiny. it wants to develop to,

according to its own, the vision, according to its own necessities, rather than serving somebody else as bidding. and the many, most people believe that this is the crux of the tensions or with the west and the current conflict in the ukraine. i wonder how do you see it, what's, how happening in your credit? is it a regional conflict, or is it part of the largest trundle, including a struggle for, for the meaning of peace? well, 1st of all, it's a regular tragedy businesses including the sign. it's a brother killing brother. it's no matter what. it's a sad story. this uh yes, but it's also on, as i explained before, i believe it's the west and blocks it could. it could nervous about recent history or refused to accept. recently hit street, dove is primarily uh, uh, responsible for leading to that's

a sad situation. having said that, i'm not to come down. anybody who evade and he bought the surgery. i mean, as a, as a scholar. i don't, i don't accept that. no matter what i'm thinking about that many a russian experts believe that the russian military intervention in the ukraine came out only when the kremlin calculated that a military confrontation with the west was inevitable. regardless of what we do. we cannot compel the west uh to retract uh, by goodwill. i one day of that conclusion about the never to bill it's he, off of a class with the west has already been reached with beijing because your red lines are also being actively pushed right now. well, yes, there is no question about dogs in china. of course a tie. one is the issue here. chinese actually says it's the core

of the core interest to china and the, even more about that one issue now. you, you, you obviously right, they did, it looks like united states in particular seem to be pursuing the same pattern of behavior. ignoring the core of the core interests of trying to ignore node or purposefully destroying more neglecting it. what the united states wants to do is they want to pursue a policy called one china, one tie, one policy, united states claim. they've never abandon one china policy. they're not pursuing to try and a policy, but they true something in between. that is a puppy to a sheet of one china, which is a legal one. but there's other one which is not really legal by international says, but if capitulate that taiwan independence. so it is a dfcs dual taiwan independence policy for china. this has already crossed the red

line you have written before that we are now living in the pre world war one situation. and obviously nobody uh, before. 1914 knew what couldn't become a fait accompli, but i still want to ask you what could possibly constitute the red line for china, the crossing of which may become the point of no return. well, in the case of china, it's the, the us for the alibi to tie one's international status. so you see you have a nice, a policies visit which already credit crisis. if you have anthony berlington, i'm sure china will start a military operation. there is, i haven't even have notes. i don't have even doubts about that. it depends on the level americans try to elevate to tie one's international status, now will be the red line. saudis cannot so by getting a colorist, besides, besides,

this is not your tray. probably one legally is part of the china, the, the, there were some tell the, even the dispute about that in some nash and international commands. and, but the, i'm in the really isn't in the, in the day and age when legality or international law is not a, uh, estimated as the highest value. just uh, as uh, for example, peace is now taking a as a highest value. so i wonder, uh, what kind of a responsive account measured do you think uh, china will be in uh, in the case of, uh, a 4 more open provocation from the united states. because nobody wants the water. right? nobody wants to an open conflict, but the american strategy seems to be cutting the dogs to the tail piece by piece. you know, this slow encroachments, so when enough will be enough for china. i think if i send the military a large number of military personnel to tie one either for training purposes for

other purposes or begin to supply a large number of at the balance of offensive weapons. so the same thing that happens in ukraine, you mean the same thing happened in your credit with the triggered the interaction? well, it's the same thing. i think it's unfortunate that disputing was taken in by means to me we, we now know, i mean on glen merkel and a long they all saves, you know, missed the crew is it's just fine time before re army ukraine. so chinese learn the lesson there. we will not, we will not accept another me, so now to speak. speaking about the turn is position in the ukranian conflict, then i know your claim on neutrality, but uh, in observing what's happening there. i wonder if china, at this point would be more interested in the defeat, not so much ukraine, but the western actions in ukraine. um,

do you think that would lead to some humbling on the part of the west or do you think on the contrary, the defeat in ukraine may from the west to look for, you know, some compensation elsewhere and for opening event of another worst theater. most of the i don't see these to a directory lease. i don't think so. i'm a chinese, what chinese really wanted is to somehow work out a cease fire. i don't believe with chinese have any capability to work out a peace treaty that that's not in the cards. but if they can work together, maybe with some back home or some other lead has to have a ceasefire. stop clearly basic that will be extremely important for china. but do you think the russians would, that would agree to that without the accomplishing there are a strategic goals? because as you mentioned, the misc uh piece deal was essentially

a ruse for allowing ukraine to we are, is it in russia's interest to, you know, allow for another cease far and the wait for a war a couple of years down the line. what? so my phone, the new building already got new territories, maybe the territory and the develop, you know, the professor is, wasn't develop into it, search results and with it, as he said, it was about natal encroachment constant encroachment. and the trouble is, i don't know if that's right, well, but, but if you already got the full uh territories, which means at least you'll have a buffer. so you created an impractical sense. i would see a missed the body should have interest with this, these 5 it is soleski. cool. may not be willing to do it because he is live on the west and a does not want these a plot line to be cut off. mm hm. uh, so the really hard part of the facility that's my i personally,

i think rushing should be able to do it now. perfect. perfect. so can i ask you about this? uh, a line uh issue because like a couple of europeans thinkers, including the prominent german sociologist, vulgar and streak express their concern. recent data, washington is now trying to your a p. a nice that's for that is to have that is to ship the burden alpha, financial responsibility, the burden of arming the burden of training onto uh, the european union. first and foremost onto germany. do you think that's possible? do you think the, the or teams have enough resources to fly that hor, for, for the americans and support? that's more for the americans or i don't think about how efficient uh, weapon system or resources. but they have money though you're being so not poor. the countries are rich countries. mr. trump is right to criticize european data men, but it's a pain to little for nato. um, so yes,

united states now support the ukraine. eventually, they will allocate the duty to european part of nato. that's the american plan. so and the simple i see it is, and finally, if i'm a mini investor to know the china of pointing its own algoy for dealing with the ukrainian crisis, do you think china can offer anything to ukraine? not to russia because service the russia, your good friend, the terms, but can you offer anything appealing enough to ukraine to make is interested in the so called ecumenical piece? well reconstruction help in reconstruction. remember, china isn't the think investor and maybe to a trade fund to with ukraine. they saw the war, the ukraine, it's 1415 percent to a trade would sign up. and we invested in not listening to the war. actually, you know what that mean? it's a lot of chinese investment,

so your cranes know that and they have interest for the future reconstruction. i think this is one called chinese will play. besides, chinese may be able to persuade semanski that's a ceasefire. it's not a bad idea ceasefire. think about the time and drone in korean peninsula, 9053. so used by a hold. it's for almost 70. yes. anyway, despite you don't have a peace treaty, it's a f and also so let's get this not to have to recognize the territory taken by russia. ok. if you have a ceasefire agreement, i truly hope the chinese can be the effect different that i'm sure it's real, a survey interest of, of the russians. they are craniums and pretty much the entire world if they succeed in doing that. right. i hope so too. i hope so too. well we have to leave in there, but thank you very much for joining us today. thank you. thank you very much,

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fixtures designed to simplify, it will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images present? it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground? can the solution that it can be stated with absolute certainty that this offensive has begun. furthermore, the ukrainian troops did not achieve the objectives assigned to them in any of the combat areas, right? because inside of the largest childhood you grinning counter offensive is underway . but is failing with both of west and supply vehicles, including then pumps gym and left. but the fact destroyed also in the story is the same. the link romania apologizes, ireland schools of it's, i'm 5 to the 10 year off of the different. let me just do that as monkey,

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russia's community, good region located to the south, west of most of the local authorities say a drone has crashed in to a wooden that this sunday mostly no one was injured in the incident, i made a log in class solving big losses on the battlefield, declined to rush to the funds, mostly with keys. troops forced to retreat during an attempt to the offensive for multiple directions this week. some of those intensive fighting happened in the upper rose, your region, which last you voted to become part of russia. we have a d ads, at least 30 by some science were destroyed, including advanced olympic tank supplied by jimmy. these images show one of the training columns taken out by mines artillery fi, andrew and eclipse. with adding tank rounds, several us supplied almond vehicles reported to be among the wreckage. ukraine had been keeping silence on his own places throughout the week until present was events

being finally admitted on saturday that it's counter offensive had begun. earlier this week, violent pleasant said keith. habit deployed it's west and find reserved troops, but have failed to meet its magic objectives. as an official which can be stated with absolute certainty that this offensive has begun, this is evidenced by the use of strategic reserves by the ukranian army. furthermore, the ukrainian troops did not achieve the objectives assigned to them in any of the combat areas. over these days, we have observed significant losses of the troops of the ukrainian regime. their losses had been substantially greater than the classic 3 to one ratio expected during offensive operations to this link a sewage slide. the site is the has on read off the key drive on the delivery of it was reached. most of us as key released in vast amounts of was up in plaza, the destroying the barrier to invest the rates. the flooding really is the most of

having to show the intention of release of food volumes of water other than that for a hydro electric station. you can see oakland, so this gets forcing was a fund the into the river process security capital secondary says nature must accept parts of the blame for this officer is it gives with green lights. the key is actions, the serious damage done to the dive. all the costs costs cause cause costs glass. hydro electric font happened on monday night with surrounding areas downstream flooding soon after the russian defense of medicine called it a terrorist act by ukraine seizing the move was also aimed at depriving the bike 5 men of the fresh water it receives from the reservoir in terms of, of the human cost, local officials say at least 8. so it is of died in the flooding. the dozens whole by the injured. while some 7000 people have been evacuated from their homes. over

the course of the week was the levels and the different river have lowest significantly, especially north of the caf coast guard. and however, many areas still remain swamp estimated outlet so quick to pin the blame on russia. the damage tackle though is a pass and that's been consistently repeated throughout the conflict. a point fits up on by some of service. according to the main stream media, russia, one a tank the room pipelines to blew up the crime. a bridge 3 attacks or a nuclear power plant, full attack, the crime, a bridge. 5 blew up there. i am. damn 6, attack the kremlin with drones. what are you? premium presidents will escape and his allies in need a claim that moscow was launching some kind of work against nature. they neglect to admit the fact that russia is a side most affected by the latest active sabotage,

the same officials who continued to refuse peace talk suddenly seemed to care about the environmental impact of war. and they are once again accusing russia of sabotaging itself as reports. note that the destruction of the dam was going to plug it in residential areas on the east bank of the napa river. and will we pry me with less fresh water supply? meanwhile, the russian regional administration is opera. she is warning that the attack will make it easier for you crane to target the nuclear power plant there. i believe you do, but i'm was, it's, but at the shelving of the neighbor a can promote. does the landscape resumes desired to repeat its criminal plan to send a landing forest and their guitar just double should foothold and then attempt to take control of this upper ocean nuclear power plant, especially given the fact that they've tried to do so several times already. and before the destruction of the dam, ukrainian in western media works using russia of draining, make a hope for a reservoir earlier this year, which is not quite logical. it rushes a legit call is to cause as much flooding as possible. the narrative, the russia is waging war against itself is nothing new. and it has been used more

than a few times over the last year. that includes the attack on the north room pipelines last september. when the western media was equipped to claim that not only was russia responsible, but that it had the motor to destroy its own infrastructure, but we don't know who did it. but there's a question of who has the motive and who has the capability? and a lot of experts say russia, russia has the motivation, is it has the doctrine that is developed specifically for the situation. it has the capability. one of the few countries to do is call virtually, it's highly likely in my opinion, that is russia, of course. now that investigative journalist seymour hersh reported that the united states was behind the attack. the media had changed their to the new york times now, so that was carried out by a pro ukrainian group. and the washington post says, the u. s. was aware of the plans,

the same playbook was used when the crime in bridge was attacked last october, which was celebrated i both ukrainians in their own lives. then there was the response to the drone is how on the promotion in may. i think this is an attempt to generate public support at home, maybe abroad because it is this an effort by a pretty soon. so try to find some way to escalate oregon justifies more new credit . there is a, a sequence of events based on, on, on the videos that came out that suggest that this was a like a controlled release. at the very least, the new appears to be, to blame russia 1st, even if they have to quietly admit that it was really you crime later on with those media talking heads and politicians never seem to ask why russia would keep destroying its own infrastructure or one of the west music continue funding ukraine in a proxy where a guess russia, if russia is still committed to destroying itself,

romania has apologize. a re cooled is i'm boss of the, from kenya, off of the diplomat made races comments during a recent un gathering. and the african nations capital of the remaining in the ministry of foreign affairs deeply regrets this situation conveys its apologies to all those affected and strongly rejects and condemns old behaviors and attitudes incompatible with mutual respect. surely you are amazing in no. i robi romane m, y locating the said quote, the african group has joined us. when some monkeys appeared outside the window is all the 1st time either you are paying officials of may defensive comment. and so the thoughts with more on over his to his bug based reports a caribou looked at it will be the 21st century. but you know, we still,

we are still not seen as individuals as people and s equals the only when the issue is of course is, are they obviously these come in especially coming from a european diplomats are really disappointing at the. busy but stable as if someone would call it all several minutes as opposed to have sway and some post combined language which they use. and i suppose to be very careful around how they use us that way. but methods ego has made in these commons, which are not necessarily new in themselves that were made on the 26th of april in the u. n. building in my room, there was the operations department in attendance, but some of the attendees where they found it very important to report on the made by mr. t dot saying that they follow them in sensitive at the very least via freaking who would like to condemn in strongest terms possible,