i think this makes a lot of sense and if we did have totally forces, well this waiting and forces in the you can bet your bottom dollar the british. so yes numbers would, would rock it would go, right. so because a british of probably being the most gun hope of old western nations, even more than america in terms of what actually doing on the ground and lead to so, so you know, we, we are getting into a very, very dangerous situation of escalation where we assume the person will not escalate if we escalate, but i don't think we can, we can, we can bank on that. i think now the, now it's, if it's turning now to, you know, there are many american mainstream journalists now who are actually bidding and submit that the russia is stuck now to is no longer relevant if ever was, you know, and that you kind of taking huge losses on the battlefield and if we all gonna make any difference in ukraine, you know, we, we need to do something much, much, much bigger on a much bigger scale. and i think that's really what nato is, is, is negotiating and working out. now when it's when it is um hawks on the eastern

side of europe and his stubs in terms of from germany who don't want escalation, they didn't want to. ready a real war with nature to, you know, the language just turn into tactical strikes. that's what i'm hearing a lot to go strike would probably be dangerous. you know, i mean, and where is that? what does that take binding leading out to, to the elections. you know, that was you going to explain this to to votes is when the, the, the economy in america is going to start the tunnel. the explosive pointing this out. the you know, binds, got quite good dates as to the 6 of them. i'm only flesh when inflation is just one aspect of an economy. there are many, many of the facts is where, you know, it's looking as though the americans cloud, financially around the world, is slowly in the end, in a demise. you know, and i'm going to, the election is bite and then i have to stand by these both bellicose groundwater statements that is people made at the beginning, you know, we need to teach the rest of the lessons. we need to get them so hard, but they'll never do this again in ukraine or other countries. you know how you get out the impacts that how you, but peddle out it's a very,

very difficult. so the rush that we will talk about on the show is turning in one direction only. and you know, as crazy as much as it sounds. you know, we are looking now attached to strikes. we are looking now. yeah, the, it's a choice of nato's to be judge about 45 seconds before we go to the right. but from the russian perspective, they are at war with nato. so, i mean, i don't know what nature, what kind of game they're playing in their head. they're not making, i mean, a leopard tags. ok, i mean, you know, they're, they're not, you claim in tags. ok. i mean, again, this is just kind of a discursive playground that the nato is playing 30 seconds is probably going to the body. exactly. i mean, if the terrance has failed to do the need, so from essentially getting involved in the war against russia using ukraine is a proxy to 5 russia then. by the same token, degeren's will fail to, to russia. in striking nato. i mean, a basic versus, and it's like, what do we have to lose? nato is already waging a war against us that, you know,

basically all bets are off. yeah, this is a neighborhood. i'm not sure we should. we should never get to the point. what do we have to lose? that is the place we cannot go. okay, gentlemen, that i think we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on nato status, r t. the in the, by the middle of the 19th century, practically, the whole of india had been under the rule of the british and by the colonial authorities, had imposed that heavy death, bringing the people into poverty ex, 40 natural resources. and moreover,

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the british empire never broke the free spirit of the indians and their will will resist the release of russian states. never z as one of the most sense, the dfcs ingles i'll send, send up the speed . the one else calls much about this. even though we will ben in the european union, the kremlin, the machine for states on the russians today and split the smooth neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services, which is the 15 stephen twist, which is the

welcome that's across stuff were all things are considered, i'm funeral. now this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real notes. the ok, let's go back to martin america's one of the interesting things. the dilemma is one of the dilemma is the nato, as it is always very stubborn. liam, proudly and arrogantly said, you know, we're going to go wherever we want to go. and, you know, they help with the russians. okay. well, they've had a brick wall. okay. of course you know sweden and bill and that's a is on the agenda course. they want to get in the pores, country and europe, moldova, god knows why whatever. okay, but you've hit a brick wall with, with ukraine and, and if anyone has been paying attention, this is a critical,

pivotal point for russia, but no under no circumstances, whatever form ukraine and they will not be a member of nato. and then they just kind of dug itself into a, a trap right here because someone is saying no to nato and they're not used to it more. yeah. and um, yeah, i think it's what i worry that. so the knowledge of those tons to, to, to the, to this level now where we're actually discussing the possibility of any of these countries from eastern europe, i'm coming in, i'm, you know, let's, let's look at it from a different perspective. i see i'm in a quite negative way. i think the festival, you know, we're looking at a new data now which is divided. yes. it's like a can speak nature, you know, and we never done that before. like everything that night, just on a new kind before, you know you booked and said, you know, this is not libya, this is not syria, this is the russian. so we have 5. so you, there is a huge experiment and i think what's happening now with these meetings, you know,

with nights or leaders, i'm was so lensky, i'm becoming more, more aggressive. you know, i think we're reaching a point of admission that the project hasn't worked. and it's been muscle, be underfunded, probably, and when we talk about $12030000000000.00 of us money going into the. ready ukraine machine probably that was nowhere near enough. probably you'd have to look at a 345 times that to have the kind of impact of ukrainians and the ones because that told me about penetrating that line. and you know, no one has the secret. no one has the this of the spring offensive is become a summer offensive. you know, a, i don't, i don't know how you, you find 2 or 340-0000 soldiers with house. the only one that's just the point, georgia, me, you're in hungry. i mean, i how many, you know, 100 and you're not a government official. so i'm just going to ask your opinion, but i'm how many i'm just going to join up for that project going into it. right. i mean, i kind of remember history that, you know, last time you home,

gary and troops were in the part of the world. it didn't work out too well. so then george, well, that's a very good point. and i, so that's like a, the point that uh, you know, victor or bon emphasizes hungry, got sucked into world war 2 hungry, took part, been the invasion of the soviet union as an ally of hip list and got the club head of the world war 2 and i threw in your, you know, the, you, you 40 is the communism. and that's what you do. you know, if you start the war and you lose the war, you get club. and i mean, that's an inevitability and it is, it's something that's out. they do it all by the next clip of this big. it is an interesting issue though. that was what made. it was now done is gone. oil in was the last, they are going to make some kind of a commitment to zalinski. i mean, i don't think the billing is just go to the george or your keys and this i'm going to buy. what do you think it is going to be? well, i think that there's probably going to be something along the lines of the nuisance

bloodline for coalition of the willing. i mean, if you know people want to help your brand, go, go right ahead and try and help you save the problem. is that now the major has made an existing, shall map a for it, so it comp just back away because they've been backs away. it's essentially admitting we lost. yeah, we didn't just lose. i mean, we, we can lose and i've got, is non, okay, we're allowing, you know, a bunch of go to those. you know, that's fine. okay. we love this on the if the end of nato, which stays like i will also russia, this is the, i'll bet, no, wow, you know, this is the people that we've been hazing for years and years. it really no decade . we lost democracies, have lost them, and you know, the great divide do with democracy is the most offices that's gone. we'll talk, this is a one major kind of full to do that then that when they don't just have to escalate, i mean, there's just a, there's no way to back away because there isn't anyone in nato with it,

with his actual vicar, or about who suggests things like this is, this is not, nature just has to sit down, you know, forget all this, all the, and just work something, something pragmatic out with russia just as we used to work something pragmatic out with the soviet union. but there's no one of the major prepared to do it. so they all in. and i don't see any uh, you know, willingness on how nato's bought. do back down all the way back to the more the roses. i mean for democracy. i mean, i thought this was awful about security, okay. that has to discursive mistake. martin, the west is me, is to try to equate the to they have nothing to do with one another. and if you look at the russians past, here it is all about it's security, it is never about politics in that sense. more. yeah, i think it's just about the last couple of weeks i've been has been a very top here is for media and covering these events, you know, and i wonder how much media is played. i look kind of role is played in contributing to this, this capital moment, the way with this, you know, you know,

this night. so the summit is asking to produce some sort of in my view, it will, it will offers and let's get some sort of deal which was involved more met, she hardware, but a lot, lot more unintelligent, sharing the parts. and then i understand, i mean again, this is called the fog of war and media in propaganda. but i mean this, the, the, the warehouses are empty. okay. they're, they're ordering things to be the not to ship to the main issue is a big problem. yeah. and i mean, it may well be that there might be collect, cool around the world phones, america's friends, to look at the 2nd rates on search, 2nd, or 3rd generation equipment. and, you know, russian types of collection agencies in morocco for example. i'm that that may will be part of it. but i think, you know, what's worrying is, is it, although i am seeing very, very slight shift from the narrative in america. you know, american gentleman is starting to pointing the finger on us, you know, slightly as a big questions. you know, we still have very, very,

very unusual and would like to put you on the ground, which is really not helping. i mean, it's absolutely incredible the protocol since 1st video on twitter. let's take a blue. absolutely. why is exploding? i'm no offense of causing the why does explode because yeah, unless i'm not asking those really, really basic questions that this guy is asking you. we talked about the coup with them, you know, i mean, well, i would rather do it himself. you know, is there somebody else that did the trans actually take pot shots of the time a couple of months earlier? yes. what's your 1st reported on this? why is that being ever us as a narrative now where, you know, every media outlet in britain, america, especially when the thing that it, russian says don't you, we're not going to look at anything else. the russians did it, you know, but what i think is happening is that with the nice of summit with the time attack, i think, and james cleverly statement a couple weeks ago that the cranes have every right to hit russia within russia. i think what's happening is we aren't being softened up well being prepared for

a new way of a new policy to allow us to. ready or in ukraine, and i think um, and of course of course people are going to vote on this george, right. this is, this is a popular war in, in the past. or is it a leak driven? explain what's going well as a very good web because of cause any time when the war implicitly is an issue of the voters vote against that. there is no popular mandate anywhere full this wall. and there is a reason why the out there not to through deutschland potty is doing well and jeremy right of, you know, the germans of very, very, very wary of voting for any ranking. bought me this probably is obviously nothing to do with knots isn't more any relevant at the moment. is that, oh, this is a fall, right? bob. there is a nationalized body germans, a very wary of this. nonetheless, essentially the interesting georgia that it takes russia, it was before the soviet union, you know, to make people, you know, they would,

that they would, um, would it be injected into german politics? and now we, you know, it's fighting russia and now the right is being, you know, they're seeming, you know, these people are going to be, are, say, it's interesting how it's kind of ships around. but always, it's the point, russia, yes that's, i've tried so many of the ones who of the most family goes about russia in germany . it is in the bed bug. i mean it's, it's, it's the left. i mean it's that the, the greens are absolutely insane as all greens generally throughout your body. this is all very much of, you know, the, a project, all the left. i mean, the ones who somehow, i've identified russia as the enemy and that, that can be no backing now is all but just not prevent just like a rush as the enemy. but you know, we don't want to destroy the world. i because if you're already yeah, russians the enemy and we're ready to go all the way when we were, you know, it's like um, police trust. yes. i'm ready to press the button out loud. even idea, you know,

it was specify what are the conditions under which you're the press the button and you have an, a lead a band box, a pass that changes position 360 bucks the people were dealing with. you're smart and be honest with more seriously, very interesting use. you said, you know, there might be a call for american allies with this. what, 800 bases around the world, you know, maybe pony. uh, some uh, additional equipment besides a very interesting message to the global south, particularly china is that, oh, you know, they, you know, it's a country like ukraine that can stop the west, you know, and it's keels. i mean, that's a very interesting message. you're gonna have to sort of scrounging around. so the, the, that with the nato is it is not what we were told. okay. and it's, 1st of all, it's divided and it's pretty short on supplies because i have always said, if russia was such a danger to nature countries, why didn't they spend more money on defense? they didn't martin because they never had much of spinning in

a conflict like that which was which was true or else the result is over such a long period. you know, the miscalculation at the beginning of this conflict was absolutely breathtaking. i think we're seeing that again now. i think this idea that now we think about troops into the country is, is, uh these westlakes have got together and the kids themselves are, if we do this next on, if she goes up for could that be then the, the calculus which jump starts a new series of diplomacy from russia or for china that could well possibly be part of it. the other thing about backing out which george mentioned is that there is a timeline to this, and the timeline is 2020 for us selections. so that can be a point where the west can back out, because if america says, if the, if bible says 2 months before ols that some, okay, we're going to pull out of your pride. and i'm going to spend a $120000000000.00 now. and policy, which i think is what trump or a trump like, couch it will probably do that would be the stump of the pool. you know,

at some point, you know, everything's off all bets are off. so i think they, these are certain factors that we have to look at, but, you know, there's so much risk, so much experimentation, you know, don't bring less trust. and so if a go say, please, you know, i think there's enough markets already sitting around the peak table of trying to work out the future careers and the next moves. you know, i'm times on the chart that says in all martin, this is all about careers. you know, i mean i was going to be the next head of natal. i may be from the u. k. know, with the we need a woman from scandinavia. so what does this have to do with security? i keep asking that unfortunately, gentleman, this is not a pod gas, this is a program, and we run out of time on a thing, my guess. in budapest and america, shall we think of us. we're watching us here. at our d. c. next time, remember across that games the,

when i would show, they just don't have to shape out the application and engagement because the trails when so many find themselves worlds of parts, we choose to look for common ground, the the,

the fun here in belgrade, on one of the assistance points for the displace people who have come from the surrounding villages that were recently attacked. while ukrainian artillery is over . 60000 people are evacuated from western russian territories and the relentless ukrainian artillery fire. i'll tell you visits of refuge account and to be all good region, the china slums, us media allegations, the beijing has struck a deal with cuba to setup spice stations on the island. also ahead when i left that as well, it was ready to collapse. we would have taken it over. we would have got doing that oil. it would have it right next door. donald trump both and the claims the us should have taken venezuelan oil by false fucking 2019 is us claimed it stood for,

but his reading freedom and democracy for the time on washington's losing his position and credibility on the political arena. darcy, of the world's population, supporting russia, where that's at least as, according to the author of the report on the notes, the stream of pipelines, the crew must go to the world. you are watching oxy internationally is just on 10 am on monday morning here, and the rest and capital on is be discussed there with all the latest. but this weekend, so at least 12 tillery shells 5 by ukrainian forces, the build region in west and russia. that's according to the local mazda one, residential building was heads and it's on a ship back now, which sits in the border. it caught fire with windows being shafted by the strike. currently, over 60000 people have been evacuated to sensors all across the bell. good region, all these shape, both reports from one of the refugees of the children's. she'll be me, it's,

i'm here in belgrade on one of the assistance points for the displace people who have come from the surrounding village. is that where we is the attack, while ukrainian artillery and incursions by infiltration groups. as you can see, there are literally hundreds of people, thousands have sought refuge here in belgrade. it's a huge amount of terry in operation. people are getting psychological health, food and the absolutely necessities for human existence. and it's only about something like this occurs and you see the scale of the impact of these attacks by the plane and ministry on what are essentially civilian targets. we've spoken to the mirror and he's outlined the size and the scale of the assistance that people are getting almost i'm, although there were 3 large centers for the initial placement to residents from should be can. during the 1st day alone, we received accommodated and provided with food and medicine around 3 and a half 1000 people. however, many of them had obviously left the residential area without packing their personal

belongings. so they were also in need of clothes and some hygiene essentials for that. for similar distribution points have been set up in the city, which to mandatory and aid supplied from all over the country. on behalf of the governor, we had been preparing in advance for various emergency scenarios. so we were able to deploy everything very quickly. while i'm here at the, at belgrade sports center, one of several that is currently housing displaced people from the ship back in a region, a region recently attacked by ukraine. we've seen an immense effort here to provide care and assistance to a huge range of people from very elderly, sick to young babies, children, pregnant women, and entire families. there's about 200 people here in the center. some people have decided that they will not return to shit back, you know,

and are getting re house in other regions in areas is the cynical assault on civilians targeted that civilians honest led to huge displacement of 10000 people. at least we know here in the belgrade region, i'm joined by the vice mayor of belgrade region, who's very kindly agreed to talk to us about the situation in the city right now. they've received a lot of displaced people from, from the surrounding regions which are separate attacks. there's a 200 people in this center alone. the alexander, thanks very much for talking to us. how many people altogether has fail, garage received as displays people? what's the total of the speed you need you to a total of the past week about 10 thousands of also comes from in from cubic you know, have bus route, temporary accommodation facilities. this indeed, a unique situation in belgrade with a large, rolled into your movements and which medical students, including foreign ones, are actively participating that. so we're here at the university of belgrade,

where the students, local doctors and doctors from the region have come to assist the people who've been displaced from should back in on the surrounding villages. it's an incredible effort. there are mobile clinics and it must be said that the work of the students here who are even spending their own money, their own time to come and help their fellow citizens and the people that they've never met before. it's really a remarkable thing to witness. the situation is horrible. it's through our students are very kind and they always like here to help people and it's not true or somebody say that even for lazy it's not true. there's also still a bright side to the story if you like. when facilities like these mobile units are brought into play. all the medical care is being met and you can use a small one is that people who have been evacuated here are clearly in need of help . long conversations and consolation so many doctors are here working also as

psychotherapists about the human side of this conflict showing is true that people want peace. they want to see people left in peace. and surely that's what we should be talking about. but unfortunately, the western media piece is not even mentioned anymore. i suppose it's the mosque slips now as we see towns like sure back, you know, in belgrade b indiscriminately attacked with nato supplied weapons specifically targeting civilians. the same behavior that has been denied by ukrainian military and their nato, a sponsors for 10 years and, and don't ask in, in the east of ukraine, the, the most powerful 2nd empire. that's how beijing has labeled washington accusing us of slander and the latest wall of woods following western media posts. it's a legit trying to plan that you sign a secret deal with cuba? settled a spice station on the, on the, on

a $3.00 remote mongering and sloan to is it come and trick for the united states. it only wants in interference in the internal affairs of other countries, is it paid on to the united states. the united states is also the most powerful have to empire in the world and a veritable surveillance power. united states is a legally okey party. one kind of move by naval base in cuba for a long time engaged to initiate the activities and imposed a blockade against cuba to more than 60 years. the news outlets quotes the anonymous us officials for the new york times claimant. china has their own intelligence operations in cuba since 2019 signed as a global times through social media to accuse the western media spreading this information. so we some mysteries and known official spreading rumors that can be verified. there is no need for china to spend billions of dollars on this, and it seems more reasonable to use the money to investigate u. s. military bases in the asia pacific region. ages,

shopping worldwide builds and military base just now trying to 3rd tray and conducting close reconnaissance of china coast. that's what you asked has been doing to try now. us always have on a same us allegations could lead to a tightening of sanctions against cuba. that's a long list of blogger links for both fame of us is seeking to damage the chinese parts, etc. they come up with these, the allegations, they throw it out there the see if it's going to work, they see if it will damage business. i mean, they did a lot of damage to the huawei and i think, you know, once again, they might be using this for an alternative mode of here that to me we may see something, maybe a of sanctions come down on some more high tech companies. uh, from china, for sure. if you look at the americans, they have a yearly budget of $300000000.00 to offset china and they use it with, you know, a lot of anti rhetoric uh pieces that continually go out. we can never, uh, you know, pinpoint who is getting

a part of that fund. now that money flows into the system. how many of these media outlets are putting their hands in the pie and taking it and coming up with, you know, such, you know, slanderous allegations. it's incredible. but, you know, diplomacy usually is the one that com, everything down in this situation. but unfortunately, um the us credits for diplomacy of run out. will there be any backlash against the media? probably not. absolutely not because they are on to their next story already. what that will be? i'm sure it will be something outland dish just like this one. the, the former us president donald trump has insisted us should not buy oil from venezuela, even suggesting taking it by force about with buying oil from venezuela. when i left that as well, it was ready to collapse. we would have take it over, we would have got doing matter. well it would have been right next door. but now we're buying oil from venezuela, so we're making

a dictator very rich. can you believe this? nobody could believe it as well back in 2019, but as whether it was overwhelmed by protests or the speaker, the problem, it's one guy though, declared himself incident, presidents of the country is kind of the state was supported by then president, trump, you claims present madeau rose position was illegitimate and then his relatives were demanding freedom and the role of law let's the us a bit to be more focused on the countries or results is and defending a legit democratic freedoms. us has been accused of seizing oil from countries where it conducts mich operations for my rocky president said that $150000000000.00 of oil money had been stolen from the leasing country since the us invaded 2 decades ago. soon, officials claimed last organisms 80 percent of the countries all production was be implemented on a daily basis from has overly said on a number of occasions. the us has been taken off from syria. but we are leaving soldiers to secure the oil. now we may have to fight for the oil, that's okay, but we keep in the oil.