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now, it's built by lead to she was a politician of a european, or one might say, global scale. there are few such people in the international arena now. he was a great friend of our nation and did a lot to establish business and friendly relations between russia and the european states. he was an unusual person for a politician because he was very sincere and open. i want to express my sincere regret and condolences to the tale and people and all the relatives of mister berlusconi to insert them for the scone was admitted to the hospital last week over serious health concerns. he's the longest serving prime minister of italy since world war 2. let's take a look back at his legacy point and fascist. it's lee in 1936 silvio berlusconi said that he remembered the horrors of war from a young age. perhaps that is what serv. this is drive to become not only immediate ty coon, one of the richest men in italy,
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but also the longest serving its highland prime minister after world war 2. italy is the country i love here i have my roots, my hopes, my horizons here. i learned my job as an owner for premier or from my father and from life here i learned the passion for freedom. i tell you that we can. i tell you that we must build together for us and for our children, a new italian miracle, a multi billionaire, a heading, a european government. suppose also a 1st, but that's not all. he also owns one of the most famous football clubs in the world . ac milan for 30 years, he's of a passion was singing, and not many people know that he actually co rhodes the teams and some oddly enough, he named who's conservative party, for se talia, which means go instantly after trans used by ac, milan funds, a man of many talents who always left a lasting impression, writes charming,
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controversial humorous, and never afraid to speak his mind. as he said, lucy, don't see on a case it's yeah, mike, is he can like, is he gonna? that's paid, said one of the rooms out to back obama. movie supposed to be mean instead of using the, the man on the safe and his level of women was perhaps, as the tories as his law for vladimir putin much was written about their so called romance over the decades in western mainstream media. and he always hoped that he could bring washington into the mix when i was in government in 2001 i said publicly that i wanted to end the cold war, which had been going on for 50 years and was a terrible anguish. i was successful because here enrolled in 2002, i convinced george bush and vladimir putin using all my talents of friendly
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relations to ends of the cold war. that doesn't last long as we know, but the friendship between fruits and vegetables school need one from strength to strength. some said it was due to mutual business interests, but it seemed to go far beyond that. here there were and saw dania when they it's highly and liter hosted boots and that has villa in 2008. and this system in crime, mia and 2015. a controversial trip for western politician as it came after. local residents voted overwhelmingly to reunify with russia. 87 percent of crimean citizens voted 93 percent devoted to seed from ukraine, voted to b, and a ton of mr. public voted to become parts of the russian federation. you should see the love, the gratitude and the friendliness that welcome to pretend that didn't go down well with western politicians, of course, but silvio berlusconi was not a man who cared about what others thoughts. and he never shied away from telling it
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like it is. he understood russia's points of view and slammed the wes for promoting the conflict in ukraine. just this february, she was purch and washington to come to the senses and start threatening keith to cut off the weapon supplies in order to achieve an immediate cease fire. soon. i would never have gone talking to the landscape because we're witnessing the devastation of his country and the slaughter of its soldiers and civilians. so i judge very, very negatively the behavior of this gentleman. berlusconi is ridiculous accusations against the ukrainian president are in an attempt to kiss pollutants hands which are covered in blood up to the elbows. a portion was pushed by the russian population by his party, by his ministers to invent this special operation. the plan was for russian troops to enter in a week to replace the landscape government with a government of decent people. this is a man who entered politics in the early ninety's and managed to serve 3 terms,
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despite being constantly charged with something that seems mainly tax evasion of fraud. most charges were dismissed, but he was eventually convicted of the tax fraud in 2014 and was even banned from running for office. as soon as the band was lifted in 2018, however, he went to seats in the european parliament the following year. and he would turn to the country, senates federal school. he was never wants to give up or stay away. i am the jesus christ of politics. i am a patient to victim. i put up with everyone. i sacrificed myself for everyone. i have very good personal relations with mister butler. scary. i think that he's one of the great as european politicians of today, despite his stablished amount of with women as a politician, he is of course, one of the last mohicans of europe in politics. the passing of silvio berlusconi is a great loss not only for its sleep and european politics, but also for russia,
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as he was one of very few people in europe who not only respected rushes, points of view, but was also trying to get others to understand that it truly is the end of any era . earlier my calling peter scott discussed the legacy of silvio berlusconi with his former assistant daria over volta. who is the author of true breau, a scone, a man businessman, politician, a better one that has been a shop the here given people, even the buyer gets a beep one of the houses. i think that everybody who realizes that everybody realize that the he was a and a he is being a great part of the whole, the details you and you will be on the used as a man. he was a very pleasant person to, to remain with it. it was liking it to be maurice because he was a very sympathetic to every body and the ones that are expecting every body i have
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been working with. they meant for many of us, even before police and the i do not remember any moment in which it e aggress this i'm a quarter of or a dose of that uh was not doing well, your job. it was always trying to understand it to correct the it was very kind. is it but a dish and i could, he decides the many times a month for some respect to all the in chatham that 40 dixon. but i think that the in the what the external international politic is glosser and he has been a really perfect anytime he has been a bride. mean is that will be to, of course, no secrets. obviously that's uh, silvio. berlusconi was, was good friends with the russian president vladimir putin. they had a great personal friendship. why do you think that's so close? was it purely political or business, or was it something deeper between them? well i think that the most lead was really a human relationship. a human human,
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the friendship between digital i never had the opportunity of you're looking at them together, but the anytime aids happened to me too. so with the mode or with i, those are about to their relationships and i was aware that the data friendship was a really a human, a c c, a friendship. besides that, the for sure. also for the 40 degrees on they filed many things seen. we should, they were agreeing, it may be something good and we should, they were not the under present that green by the i think that the, the human aspect so was, are the most important in their relationship. even before to 46, the former president donald trump has existed the us should not buy oil from venezuela. and that was even suggested taking it by force instead of buying oil for venezuela. when i left that as well, it was ready to collapse. we would have take it over,
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we would have gotten all that away or would have been right next door. but now we're buying oil from venezuela, so we're making a dictator very rich. can you believe this? nobody could believe it. the back in 2019 venezuela was rocked by protests with the speaker of the parliament one guide to declaring himself in term president of the country. his candidacy was supported by then president trump, who claimed the venezuelan president nicholas monroe's position was illegitimate and insisted by this raylon's. we're demanding freedom. and the rule of law for the u. s. appeared to be more focused on the countries oil resources than the funding alleged democratic freedoms. the u. s. has been accused of seizing oil from countries where it conducts military operations. a former or rocky president said $150000000000.00 worth of oil money had been stolen from the middle eastern countries since the u. s. invaded 2 decades ago, syria and officials claimed last august that up to 80 percent of the country's oil
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production was being wondered on a daily basis. trump has admitted multiple times with the u. s. has been taking oil from syria. but we are leaving soldiers to secure the oil that we may have to fight for the oil. that's okay. but we keep in the oil. remember that i've always said that keep the oil. we want to keep the oil $45000000.00 a month. the, we're keeping the oil, we have the oil, the oil is secure. we left troops behind only for the oil. we did leave. so just because what do you think the oil said way, security oil, other than that there's no reason for it in our opinion. and we've secured the oil and therefore a small number of us troops will remain in the area where they have the oil. martin j editor of the grab, the dot org news outlet says the us has, it's the next target and it sites a reality of us foreign policy. you know enough to look back to the eighty's,
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even the seventy's. and if you look at just about every single intervention americans, don't you know where you mention syria, iraq, libya, most americans, presidents things that way they may not be quite safe because i'm clumsy. when talking about oil, i don't think we should. we should make the mistake that, that is under the republicans. i think a little presidents look at, look around the world and see where they can send troops and creates these security situations whereby they americans present themselves a saving the situation. and part of the deal is to cross go for the energy countries. you would just, there was a record report about in canada and uganda is now a real if you're present with mrs. a right now, you must be really worried that you are sitting on 12 trillion dollars worth of gold, and the americans are now starting to make the river in off the very aggressive comments. europe is increasing his efforts to prevent north african
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migration. the european union may loan tunisia more than 1000000 euro just supported struggling economy and deal with the migration prices. the 8 agreement could be finalized at the next meeting of the european council in late june. now they offer comes days after tying in prime minister georgia maloney, so that to me just financial stability must be safeguarded to prevent a new way of north african refugees arriving in europe. genuine authorities claimed that over $13000.00 people were stopped from crossing to europe and the coastal city as fast in the 1st 3 months of this year. maloney is also asking the i am after relax is wondering conditions for tunisia with the countries president refusing to agree to the terms of the am i fill out branding them. take tat. so for more on this was crosses live now to international relations research or this year, should we me, who joins we live here. thanks so much for joining us on the program today. so what
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you make of the financial promises that you has made to tunisia, which it says are aimed at containing this influx of migrants. i said, do i think that the deeper than the giving some money from the u. r. a maybe i think the program is more important and the problem, immigration problem of the economy and the problem made by wisdom that category vocalize it. all of these separately can category and i see mediation is one of the fact that the collective and the discount it was collected inc. but only by money we can solve this problem. even uh bye bye, a get a number of intervention by a daily basis by the you mean by the state? i think the problem is that the best to send us the,
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it's the just by money now on that topic of the people who created this problem. i mean, we know that colonialism is had a major impact on development in africa. now is you know that the former colonial countries are throwing money to fix the problem is they help cause, why do you think that they are taking that approach right now, even when they noticed that money is not going to solve the root of the problem? and they get just about the they that they get about this, they have a category and they don't get about $9.00 for it. yeah. i think i like that. uh no . do you need? yeah, i think they can just of course the people go to that category. i seen it up this way or something, but. busy is not working great they, they at work we this way, we've been on the move, get busy with our lease on the editing. but i assume they face and they, we say it again because the problem is not just changing the domain in
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this i haven't decided to invest money in the and jimmy, not even a net language, which is really the problem when some one. busy does not have the sort of the claimant's to uh to, to be in his country. it's the think we need to uh to move on to i think moving from one candidate to another. he's some something uh no my something that we should see the fema but the refund, the the you the especially if the i'm the finance and the dental and it can be included with the disney they uh they only does a care just for the i'm i'm you say the game that's the by the way, my just security of the money we can. so it's the problem.
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now on the topic of those interest, i mean western countries where it say that they want to prevent migraines from africa reaching europe. yet at the same time, there has been incredible support for you, crania, and refugees. so what kind of a message is that double standard sending to the world? the adjuster does the same thing, get done with this, cuz uh they will discuss stuff at the gm you mean when they did? and they might notice when the uh, they don't need to i, i, we use the people in d. b, i to yeah. in different, it's a place of, uh, our, i think and around the suffering and the, and the, you and the, that at least candy does not to speak about these a people on this having to go to the, you know, but, but basically just
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a. busy yeah, and yeah, and the internet, so you because it affects them, it's affect the internet. again, it's the this go to them. they see people in city, the septic, and even i made to, you know, for the guy know now what is you you don't the made this the this course. yeah, certainly a lot at stake here and we'll continue to follow this one international relations research or brochure to me. thank you so much for your time and insight. a ponderous has opened an embassy in china months after supper, in relation to taiwan in favor of ties with beijing. the hunger and foreign minister and this chinese counter part took part in the inaugural ration of the embassy on sunday morning was just days earlier. a 100 and president b on her 1st 6 day visits since re establishing diplomatic relations between the
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nations back in march fonder, as cot, diplomatic ties with taiwan and recognize the island as part of china. the switch brought the number of countries that officially recognized by one down to 1300 and president also met with the president of the brooks, new development bank and shanghai. according to an official statement, the country also filed an application to join the institution. the main task of the bank is to finance infrastructure and sustainable development projects and brooks and developing countries. asia, political risk analyst ross, find gold believe that the u. s. may 100 says it has other nations that are growing closer to china. a slightly more significant for china than for firewall entity of china, a presence in any additional country in central america, obviously for as part of the united states. so that's going to be a concern to united states policy makers, a to present some business opportunities for chinese companies typically. and i
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think we'll see this in the coming hours or days. so be some announcements about infrastructure deals with true a by china, and that's going to result in contracts for chinese companies. so probably be a lot of warnings. they'll say it's bad for you. hon doors, just like united states, warns african countries or other countries in the developing world about having to close a relationship with china. and another kind of battle ground for that in recent years has been in the pacific ocean. the pacific island countries for the solomon islands in the news a lot to this very reason. the unity is power. that's the message from the commonwealth of independent states. chief following fridays, the i s has of government meeting. russia says that sincerely interested in further strengthening the blog, as it directly affects the interest of all citizens and participating countries are 2, spoke with the organization. secretary general, who says the group is united,
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encountering western sanctions. based on when you are storing neither russia, belarus, nor any other c, i s country is enthusiastic about the pressure and sanctions which are being imposed upon us. the restrictions are clearly baseless and our being dictated by politics and the desire to undermine the foundations of our country's economies. lately, we have seen brazen attempts to tear our c. i s partners away from russia and destroy the affiliation. but unfortunately, those attempts have been few times, and our partnership understands that our strength is in our unity of the earlier forecasts that russia would collapse. the c i s countries would have banned, and russia have not come true. we will remain together as partners in economic allies and are working on plans to develop our economies mutual support and joining the overcoming the negative consequences of western sanctions. it's complicated for sure. and of course, there are problems, but we're glad that there is
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a desire to solve these problems together. it is not easy for our partners. you see have some try to convince them to join in on western sanctions and prevent russia from circumventing the restrictions. but the partners have taken a pragmatic position and are trying to maintain the traditional economical and financial ties with russia and billers, which have developed over many years. it is clear that r c i s partners will not abandon russia and billers, as we've seen today at the meeting. words of solidarity were heard about joint economic projects and the desire to further strengthen our interaction. as there are concrete facts back in this. namely, we have increased the volume of mutual trades and recent months are sharing technologies and they're building joint ventures. this proves that cooperation exists and will continue. and so that's all for now. we're here to check out our t dot com for all the latest breaking news and updates my colleague nicky. eric
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will be with you right back here at the top of the hour, the the the hello, i'm in l. a. chad. you're tuned into modus operandi in turkey, a close call for incumbent president rachel early, one narrowly beating out the opposition. today. we'll delve into what this means for turkey. it's nato partners, and the expansion of ties to the east. all right, let's get into the m. o
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the, the made presidential elections for turkey went to a run off between the incumbent, reach of tire, or the one and opposition leader come all killed each. the roll loop, some 64000000 eligible voters took to the poles. first on may 18th in beacon compulsory general elections from the field of 3 at that time, the incumbent faced off with tillage, the roller of the c h p, and send on all on from the a t a party. now all on came in 3rd and then through his support behind earl one and his a k party. following his defeat in the general, however, neither are the one nor kill extra rollers walked away with 50 percent of the vote . so it went to a run off between the 2 men on may 28th. now a lot hung in the balance with the turkish elections that went well beyond their
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borders. the question and the countries participation in organizations like nato or the you all came into play with the countries ongoing economic was the burden of my rights flowing through the borders and conflicts in neighboring states. turkish citizens made their choice. in the end, rachel or the one defeated his challenger winning the seat by just under 5 percentage points. now that was 52.18 percent of the vote. joining us to discuss what this means for turkey, r n, the rest of the world. this is professor of political science and international relations at multi pay university doctor has on, you know, you can follow the professor on his twitter at the house on, you know, 1920 professor. thank you for joining us. now. dr. now president rachel type, 31 has won his 3rd term in office recently, but only by a narrow margin through a run off between him and come out to extra roll. first,
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did this come as a surprise to turkish citizens? and why was that votes so close? well, the, the turkish elections are bit tied because the contest it's uh, the fact that the election this time was so close, indeed, neck and neck wasn't necessarily terribly surprising to close up joggers for instance, i never felt coverage start all over when in actual fact, last year this time i shared the thread on my twitter site um, you know, a binding why she could when i'm and so the results uh simply confirmed what i had said earlier. um uh you know, on one day that there may be several ways of looking at it. you know, if you look at it from monday and go by and say, well the, you know,
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the color start on the page, click, i almost have to watch. so does that mean uh, some of the light came is kind of when the next elections. well, then that may be one way of looking at it, but that may be another way of looking at it. far as those um yeah, i would say that this was the time the most property. shes time for any other position later to when the elections basically, you know, a, you know, let's, let's light because of tool. you'll have a situation in which you have a incumbent president who's been running the country for over 2 decades, a type a or you know, tired and people show signs awareness of him the way he does things, the way she talks to me about certain things in both of you, but m a and on top of all that you have an extreme economic crisis.
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now you have skyrocketing their food prices, your have the problems about the brands in particularly in natural poles and, and despite old at date, he managed to win. so that these i think what we need to look at in depth now or want it has been described at least by western media as something of a strong man leader or sometimes an extremist or even authoritarian. are those fair characterizations of him? and is that how he is viewed at home a well, according to their opponents? yes. and uh, but um, you know, a large section of the population is, doesn't subscribe to that few. i'm eh, view the west and media and sort of, uh, you know, put, say crush. uh, needs to be looked at at the various sign gums,
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photo since he was the darling of the west and was until some years ago. and when he was doing the american bait in syria, when he was acting hand in glove with the matter, cuz um about uh, coming out a quarter, the son of the middle east and about, you know, turning the country into some sore throat, some sort of federal state and both have you in those years and don't forget to you as the one who ordered the bringing down or the russian fight to reject in 2015 in those years, she was starting to the uh, the darling or the west. what happened? and as a result of which, basically the western media began to them. and i said, i think that is uh where the uh, where we should look at to understand what the problem is about. first is that were
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in this country for several years. and, you know, costs produces as a result of which people being present through dr. documents and what have you, people suffered, you know, what we have talking about large numbers of intellectuals and generals officers. and so many people have basically i languished in prisons, they were west the media despite told that there and. and despite the fact that there were signs that the, the sort of dr months and evidence were all concoct up against these people. and the west, the media was still sticking to add on and saying he was doing the right thing. because at the time he was imprisoning what we call in this country, the nation with this and the regime s. okay, so what the meat west, the media says about someone like came and should not be taken so seriously.
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so the good thing is, and in this country, the onto metacognition is measured that's about 8 to 5 to 95 percent. and, and that for the, you know, the people don't get carried away, but by what they see in the west, the media. i see. so i guess then in recent years, he's somewhat fallen out of favor with the us. also grace. i think he's fallen out of grace. yes, because you know what happened was she done an against the american plans of carving out the code at least on and particularly in the case of syria and that he fell out of step with the americans. he wanted to get you to upside down, sorry, he wanted to depos um the, the city and the the how a l i saw.

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