the information free for present julia massage is now in the hot seat. um, now there are some people who are really starting to speak out about this. some big names view. it's concerning the immune and possibility of the extradition of journalist julia and assigned. sancha has done an important job denouncing illegitimate actions by one state against another. his arrest goes against the defense of democracy and freedom of the press. it is important that we all mobilize in his defense. it's important to underscore that documents that we can weeks has revealed over the years relate to things that we never would've known about if it wasn't for wiki x, for example, the secret us tron strikes and young men attacks on civilians that were alternately hushed off in afghanistan and iraq, when they were executed by us military government, spying on their own citizens through mass collection, drag nets, namely western governments, the democratic party brass in the 2016 us selection, colluding in favor of then candidate hillary clinton to the detriment of bernie

sanders, who is a challenge at the time, we know all that because of what he likes. and also, it's important to note that the kind of activity that he's being attacked for are the kinds of things that are very useful for journalists and pretty close to the same activities the journalists do themselves. it's kind of a scary thing when you see that somebody who is just publishing information is, is a facing now extradition and many, many years in prison. just days earlier, a london court refused song is appeal against extradition. what more can you tell us about that? yeah, well this is a high court in london, they rejected his his appeal, he's now appealing it to a panel of 2 judges with this is going to happen very quickly. it's supposed to be heard next week. this is really the last stop on u. k. territory after that can go to the european level, but it's, it's really not looking good. now, as long as the legal team argued that the u. s. u k. extradition treaty does not allow extradition in cases that are political and turns out there are some members,

apartment in the u. k who are speaking out saying look, it just may be that very thing to put disappointing. the k high court has denied julie on the sand, the right appeal, his expedition to the us. more important than ever vs trillion. government continues their advocacy and push for an immediate end to this matter. does the role of law apply into u. k. guys, sir jonathan? swift rejection of julie in a sense, appeal against extradition is another unfavorable duty shall ruling and backs the question. whose interest is the judiciary serving? it's certainly not the public interest. it seems like this is a freight train on a one way track. it's going a 1000000 miles an hour, and it's very, very hard to do route for us on just legal team. and at this point they still have one last stop. before the end of line, we'll have to see what happens. well, most highly employment, silvio berlusconi has passed away in the middle on hospital at the age of 86. most

of the presidents, lots of a patient, expressed his condolences. no seem to be late. minister will be remembered as a friend of most guy will lead to he was a politician of the european, or one might say, global scale that were there few, such and people in the international arena now. she was a great friend of our nation and did a lot to establish business and friendly relations between russia and the european states you. he was an unusual person for a politician because he was very sincere and open. i want to express my sincere regret and condolences to the tale and people and all the relatives of mister berlusconi who insult them. but a scone has suffered from leukemia and was admitted to hospice all last week, following a lung infection as an ease long distance serving it's holly and premier, his posting has been moved into by political allies and why those at home leaders abroad. we take a closer look at his legacy, a corn and fascist. it's lee. in 1936 silver scone said that he

remembered the horrors of war from a young age. perhaps that is what serve this is drive to become not only immediate psycho one of the richest men in italy, but also the longest serving its highland prime minister after world war 2. italy is the country i love here i have my roots, my hopes, my horizons here. i learned my job as an end for premier or from my father and from life here i learned the passion for freedom. i tell you that we can. i tell you that we must build together for us and for our children. a new italian miracle multibillion their heading a european governments was also a 1st, but that's not all. he also owned one of the most famous football clubs in the world. ac milan for 30 years, his over passion was singing, and not many people know that he actually co rhodes the teams and some. oddly

enough, he named his conservative party for se talia, which means go actually after trans used by ac milan fence. a man of many talents who always left a lasting impression, writes charming, controversial humorous, and never afraid to speak his mind. as he said, lucy, don't see on a case it's yeah, mike is again like, is he gonna? that's paid said when i put on that too. but i have obama movie supposed to be mean and so it gives me the name on, on the says, his level of women was perhaps, as the tories as his law for vladimir putin much was written about their so called romance over the decades in western mainstream media and he always hoped that he could bring washington into the mix. when i was in government in 2001 i said publicly that i wanted to end the cold war,

which had been going on for 50 years and was a terrible anguish. i was successful because here in rome, in 2002, i convinced george bush and vladimir putin using all my talents of friendly relations to ends of the cold war. that doesn't last long as we know, but the friendship between boots and the better school need went from strength to strength. some said it was due to mutual business interests, but it seemed to go far beyond that. here there were and saw dania when they it's highland leader hosted boots in the, at his villa in 2008. and this system and claim mia and 2015. a controversial trip for western politician. as it came after, local residents voted overwhelmingly to reunify with russia. 87 percent of crime means citizens voted 93 percent devoted to seed from ukraine voted to be an a ton. them is republic voted to become parts of the russian federation. you should see the love,

the gratitude and the friendliness that welcome to pretend that didn't go down well with western politicians, of course, but silvio berlusconi was not a man who cared about what other thoughts. and he never shied away from telling it like it is. he understood russia's points of view and slammed the wes for promoting the conflict and ukraine. just this february. she was purch and washington to come to the senses and start watching and keith to cut off the weapon supplies in order to achieve an immediate cease fire. soon i would never have gone talking to the landscape because we're witnessing the devastation of his country and the slaughter of its soldiers and civilians. so i judge a very, very negatively the behavior of this gentleman. berlusconi is ridiculous accusations against the ukrainian president are an attempt to kiss pollutants hands which are covered in blood up to the elbows. the portion was pushed by the russian population by his party, by his ministers to an event. this special operation plan was for russian troops to

enter in a week to replace the landscape of government with a government of decent people. this is a man who entered politics in the early ninety's and managed to serve 3 terms, despite being constantly charged with something that seems mainly tax evasion, of fraud tools. the most charges were dismissed, but he was eventually convicted of the tax fraud in 2014 and was even banned from running for office. as soon as the band was lifted in 2018, however, he went to seats in the european parliament the following year, and he returns to the country senate. federalist gun was never wants to give up or stay away. i am the jesus christ of politics. i m a patient, the victim. i put up with everyone. i sacrifice myself for everyone. i have very good personal relations with mister, but a skates. i think that he's one of the greatest european politicians of today,

despite his stablished man and with women as a politician, he is of course, one of the last mohicans of europe in politics. the passing of silvio berlusconi is a great loss not only for its sleep and european politics, but also for russia, as he was one of very few people in europe who not only respected drops his points of view, but was also trying to get others to understand it truly is the end of any era. so can you ever to ask, okay, now where e b o b, i headquarters, size the u. n. world food program and washington over that decision to suspend food a, to the country. i made accusations of widespread, i'm coming tonight to theory. and if you can, government spokesman has brought it in these political stating that it only causes little suffering for the population. and the 20000000 people are dependent on food aid in order to survive according to the un, mostly due to ongoing conflict on droughts in the region, local oppose,

the corolla, toddler has more of this decision not to cut off the much needed food. supply is true if your is really seen as a political. why did he say look, use of the federal government spokes person who says that this is a political decision. this must be taken on the basis of the conflict which had endorsed the country in the horn. of africa for 2 years of unrest, the civil strife between the federal government forces as well as the degree people's liberation front. now bent, hunting was reached a ceasefire. at least from the applicant was that which was located here in south africa in the capital city. pretoria, this was seen as the origin solutions with african problems and reading problems to

do for the moment on to some of the programs that had stopped as a result of the viking which led to many lives the. ready loss now the united states government that represented in this case by the us aid as well as the united nations, represented by the was pro, is saying that there was a lie that they have been providing to leave you over here was really cattail. that was, i brought it from the intended target and it went else way you'll be the government, the same dates of solely the the was to blame for we know this diversion mbm come visit to get with both agencies to a full investigation that would come off way this has been going and what has led to the kind of situation that we have but the to easy something but the general of food supply, which they have been providing woodstock but not the basic needs in terms of the

solar programs which we have seen receiving solving from supply as well as those of friedman's as left teasing women as well as pet story obama's. please continue to read care and provide the assistance that he has been providing one soul, but for molar tales view of the issue here. the use of mrs. mccain who is the executive director of the program for diversion is absolutely unacceptable. and we welcome to governmental review of his commitment to investigate and hold accountable those responsible while we will temporarily hold food 8 assistance in ethiopia nutritionist assess the children the pregnant and breast feeding women school meals, programs and activities for building the resilience of farmers and foster list will continue on, interrupt was retained there, be emphasizing what they are willing to do in the meantime. before solution is reached by only 11, this how long it will take for this investigation to be the earliest to be on the

way and how quickly it could be done with considering the millions of life as they continue to depend on that. this appropriate part to discuss the most or in depth less cost live tape his wife melissa, senior producer and nissan can face and easy a few many thanks for joining us of the program this evening. a script to see. so do you want us to the world food program on the us of significantly cuts that same day to be 0 period k comes in with that because ations that it was being diverted from those who need it most. what's your reaction to the decision? uh, thank you for helping me out or do you know of the time of the 8 you number 32, g, 50 person. so your guess i'll be a i don't really meet your need for from the, for an organization. all the 8 organization, you know, these types of problem, the workforce program and us is as update. they can see

creation off. you know, there's also these off or drove off for the past 2 years, the, to a festival. the situation more x is that makes it a bind that this shooting by use a good one to providence. so what do you make of the ip and government is claimed that the suspension of the food data is politically motivated, as you know, the water qualities. now a week, the magazine a is the main part of the politics, you know, the width paid bc crazy with amazing, a big jump. this far past all of the political agenda for the policies and also the west to take these different countries and different one of these countries become a joint mode you saw due to the beach today at the

end of day to day integration process p, p. m, it at that time, the order he's been me, arkansas, museum formation informations, partial lies and you know, the party to a policy. and i didn't know that with that, especially when you are looking at the time, the 8 organization, the part of decision make up the media in the, the excuse you follow the all the data. can you be the americans working together for an average in order to maybe not keep all the ways to e. paul's time sheet and they're all gone back and just like that. so mostly the way the waste is usually with $9080.00 east for the apartment. so they just been government just waiting based on the size, talking to the what the waste is usually we nice the age,

all the services in order to in order to have to be to can government all the more baskets out. we can see this is the creation industry night. let's talk about the people to really go into stuff. and now, because according to the u. n. around 20000000 e therapies, all dependence on those 2 days in order to survive. what does this decision mean for them? what other options do they have if they don't have the. busy option that, you know, the droll is high and you do it for the past the, to use any sort of pop into solemn. you got, they don't have the rate end of the 2 in uh, because her system is too much right on the front of me on soc, is, i am in, you know, is all this mode. you saw the concrete is dependent on the culture, the end of the page, or re, the rejection scale is very low. so now at the present time,

a t at the ciocca need aid from the organization. the 8 organization probably different cultures. the decision x of b, b, it codes pression, who are paid to buy the roll will need be bit that the services from the other countries are the 8 organization. the other thing is off the bottle off because each quantity piece arrives eating. for example, you can see the suit in these, into the searching subject, telling us to lead from the so the to the, to a guy policy done. and, you know, is sumani a conflict with all these people, a concert from different countries from the natalie country to the queue? yes. so they have these items that they need from a set of resource pro,

meet your housing needs. a 40 something nice. you know, i hate team all these people including us any immediate easier. yeah. so that position is fine for uh the. busy guy in the home. thank you so much for speaking to us this evening. really appreciate your time been. so i've really senior producer and he's on to it. i a see a this and i'm in i a see a dire this is about a therapy. i thank you. thank you. this is how this a message from the commonwealth of independent states chief following fridays, the heads of government missing rushes. it's sincerely interested in further strengthening the blog because it directly affects the interest civil citizens and participates in countries without the spoke with the organization. secretary general, whose face the group is united encountering west and sanctions, are based on when you a story. neither russia, belarus, nor any other c i s country is enthusiastic about the pressure and sanctions which

are being imposed upon us. the restrictions are clearly baseless and our being dictated by politics and the desire to undermine the foundations of our country's economies. lately, we have seen brazen attempts to tear our c. i s partners away from russia and destroy the affiliation. but unfortunately, those attempts have been few times. and our partnership understands that our strength is in our unity of the earlier forecasts that russia would collapse. the c i s countries would have banned and russia have not come true. we will remain together as partners in economic allies and are working on plants to develop our economies mutual support and joining the, overcoming the negative consequences of western sanctions. it's complicated for sure, and of course there are problems, but we're glad that there is a desire to solve these problems together. it is not easy for our partners. you see have some try to convince them to join in on western sanctions and prevent russia

from circumventing the restrictions. but the partners have taken a pragmatic position and are trying to maintain the traditional economical and financial ties with russia and bellows, which have developed over many years. it is clear that our c, i s partners will not abandon russia and billers, as we've seen today at the meeting. words of solidarity were heard about joint economic projects and the desire to further strengthen our interaction. as there are concrete facts back in this. namely, we have increased the volume of mutual trades in recent months, are sharing technologies and they're building joint venture. so this proves that cooperation exists and will continue. and so as always, we appreciate your company, hey, on, on the international plans, the more updates 3 sounds on our website. talk to you dot com and we'll be back at the top of the as the

the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered on peter level. there are rules, then there are rules. this is how some nato countries approach who greens

membership in the alliance will the us slide military alliance attempt to invite kids into the club to some kind of back door at the upcoming summit. in building this the discuss this issue and more and joined by my guest, martin j in marrow cash. he's an award winning journalist and commentator in budapest we cross the george semi while he's a pod cast. read the gospel which can be found on youtube and the locals are a gentleman, cross that rules in effect. that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it, sir. i with georgia in budapest, we have the upcoming nato summit in, in bill us, and there's a flurry of reports about you know what to do for ukraine because in 2018 there was a promise that one day will happen. well, that seems like a distant memory, considering what's happened,

particularly over the last 16 months. and we have to always be cautious as a well natal by it. so rules does not allow members to join if they have territorial disputes. well, i think you ukraine is in kind of that category right now, george. but it's something you and i've talked about for a very long time, is that the rules don't mean much to this lines to break their own rules and it sits their own purposes. george yeah, you're absolutely right. the, the, they will break their own rules, the rubber that they have is are, they are poised by their own, the top. i mean, simmons is saying to them, they don't need no stinking nathan membership, you know, and 5 is fine by which time ukraine will have been completely defeated by russia. i need major membership. now i need nato to be fighting on my side now. and maybe it doesn't quite know what to do with this arguments, so they're coming up with all of these so convoluted ideas. or maybe we can uh, go through have some bilateral agreements,

so maybe from so poland can guarantee ukraine. but what's the advantage of fronds to guarantee you know, security, but ukraine, that means fonts will be just on the hook, the fights on behalf of the ukraine. well, george bush, a, we do have the president, you know, the, the, the u. k and friends made security data entry is the poll when did the 900? why didn't it didn't help the balls and now we have um on this for breast moose in the foam and nato secretary general. well, now says as a advisor to the ukraine government, he says, well, maybe we can create something called the coalition of the willing. so colon of the voltage stage, you know, they go in and fight on the ukraine's behalf. and of course, what happens then is that if, in the sense that fighting 8 in ukraine, russia targets, poland, unable to explain to them, they will scream all the go, 5 optical, 5 we're under. it's are made the one for old. i know for one, nathan,

most ends of the war. well, universe, most of the things that little girls are these stupid because we don't realize what, what he's proposing. so essentially, but i think that they can sneak ukraine through the back door, but there isn't the whole invitation. but in effect, major was still managed to get into this war on your grades. but i thought, well, we have to all remember estimates of the former head of nato. you have to propose something to get that fat paycheck that he's getting from the ukraine, which the americans are subsidizing. okay. mark the, the, they're trying to square a circle right here. again, you know, they have their rules. but, you know, there was some kind of expeditionary force from poland. well, that's in nato country, but as far as russia is concerned, i mean, and there's one thing that i think is very important that is almost never ever mentioned in the discourse, is that, you know, we always hear about article 5, but there is an article one of business, they go treaty and basically,

and i'm just going to use common parlance here. don't start be ours. okay? and this is essentially, it's some are proposing again to break their own rules, which, you know, i wouldn't be surprised when they do because they do it all the time. yeah. but what is the price for breaking those rules? i mean, you have something now which is obviously completely unprecedented on a much very much a tony point now in ukraine. more we, what we're seeing now is a group of countries in this, in europe combat recent and the grist goal, banging f is on the table to say, we need know to membership for your client. let's not talk about it in months, or whenever less actually talk about it as a reality. that could happen right now because they see the any way for the, for any development, positive on the west and the side for any progress. they see the self check, but to boost subjects best talked about. so basically you never talked about the, to this subject all ukraine shortage of soldiers. and this is really in my view,

what's central to this whole and they to debate, you know, so let's keep things on and on about minutes, equipment. they wouldn't never touch the subject of the numbers of soldiers that the needs. now, you know, we're side us colonels, i'll be interviewed on the internet. a new, a very well informed because of getting the information on the ground rules and from the pentagon bass saying that the savanski hasn't lost undersized soldiers. that thing is lost. plus the 250000, they're talking about press gains, rounding up men over the age of 48 years old, who go to 3 out lifestyle on the, on the battlefront. so the real issue is man sold is on the ground. we still reports recently in the u. k. of 50 s s o, which is already operating in the system, operates, i'm behind enemy lines, and i see what we're seeing. inmates of now is a double bout admission from night. so and from this group of more gun, her members, one, what nature was done, what was the police done in the last 15 months? is nowhere near enough. they really haven't received anything. and they've

underestimated every single 100 and underestimate about the money. the number of bits of them up, the amount of kids and they've underestimates as a result of russians know. and, and to the 2nd point really is the, um, let me talk about military kit and searches, you know, the estimation, i think is so under estimated the we could be looking at now i'm tripling or quadrupling the actual ministry support. so these countries are saying they're talking about the possibility of going into ukraine and some of the soldiers into crime. but along with the nature mondays with them, with a month, it's simply from their own governments. and the russians will just simply accept, obviously, but that jump, this is not, nature is no the west by to just jump. right. these are not nato troops up to this is just the business which really absurd. because george, i mean, this is the kind of big beside is that number one, with some, miraculously you,

with the nato, except, you know, you propane into the alliance, the rule that would determine the russians know why, what is called, in what way. and then is kind of this, you know, wave the magic wand and say the 12 components are part of nature. but these troops are not part of neutral, but they're both listed. i mean, this is kind of the, that this is a circle jerk here george the best. right? and, and the thing is that they are also convinced that russia is afraid of made so. so i think we'll look at, let's see, is sneak in poland, and the voltage states and whoever wants to join this coalition of willing and russell say hey, we don't want to hit bolen because if we go on bones going to scream all the go. 5, then more and more with nato, and we are afraid of nato, because nato is much bigger, much stronger than we are. and, you know, went already to go. nuclear nato, however, is ready to go on euclid. so that is,

that's the argument that we can essentially bring in additional uh, manpower and rusher will simply not there to hit the samantha and would just simply slink away in defeat. that's the argument. but of course, you know, why should russia except this, i mean, and, you know, once, once you're in and you're fighting the other deal grades be hop in ukraine, russia will hit you and will extend the war. i mean, you know, it was a fed target. well, publish and basis, bullish, logistics, the supply lines, everything will be if the game and, you know, then it will be up to later what the are usually better to escalate using their argument is that, you know, this is a bi lateral, this is a by law so much it can say, well we're going to buy laterally bomb q and they the argument tables in on itself martin jump it because they're making a huge assumption which is the boots and went through that. and the reason why is