country the onto metacognition is measured, that's about 8 to 5 to 95 percent. and, and that for the, you know, the people that don't get carried away, but by what they see into west media. i see. so i guess that in recent years he's somewhat fallen out of favor with the u. s. authors grace, which is pulling out of grace. yes. because you know, what happened was she tongue and against the american plans of carving out courtesy stones. and particularly in the case of syria and that he fell out of step with the americans. he wanted to get you the upside down. sorry, he wanted to depos um the, the city and the the how a l. i saw it. but then the americans didn't follow it. what they wanted to do well though it was the american. so got to in that be great and creating

a big mess in syria and all that. so basically, an indian he came down to where he should be in the right at the beginning. okay. coming up next we'll explore turkey is vital role in the ongoing conflict in ukraine. we'll discuss it when we return with dr. hass on know. so type the m o will be right back the hi, i'm executive, and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously . why watch something that's so different. little opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please, or do the have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and

whatever you do. don't want marshall state main street because i'm probably going to make you, i'm comfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, you probably don't wanna watch it because it might just change the way you think. there are rules, then there are ways. this is how some nato countries approaching grains membership in the alliance will the us like military alliance for tim to invite to, to the club, to some kind of back door at the upcoming summit. the the welcome back to the m o. m l a chance. turkeys position on the map puts this country on a tightrope with how to handle some of today's major issues like getting rushing rain out of the conflict zone in the black sea to reach parts of the world. who need it? most. doctor hass on you know,

is back with us professor some of them are the ones political successes as of late have revolved around his careful handling of the conflict in ukraine. most notably brokering the black seen grain deal and it's extension. now he's a merge as something of a deal broker in the region. how do you view are the ones for and policies thus far? and what do you expect to see in his 3rd term in the way of foreign policy? right. well 1st and i should point out that i was a critique office at handling on foreign policy is some i you know, until 3 years ago. because indeed i was probably the most most affairs critic among the academia and a because for about 10 years or so, he turned almost everyone in the region to gaze tactic because the policy being part student was some sort of uh, is la missed is pyre,

ideal logically drape when um uh too much is leaning on the united states and the europeans and, but to have your and all those basic back fired on the space. and i had been at predicting that this was going to be tied up. the costs are for turk, and for him and the administration, he basically let and i was proven right some, but i would say it was about 3 years ago or twin a hall for us it. and basically he began to tie drop his house in terms of reconsidering his spot of policy, and she did a wonderful job out of the mattress. so she basically add the, made up with this, how these with united up image rates and then egypt and israel, you know,

i was so insistent on both agent and israel, that turkey should actually, and the makeup would because the congo on like this, i said, and then he focused on syria. meanwhile, on the great new crisis, i certainly, he's still clear a ready, you know, a wonderful mid way policy, which is very much in line with doctors nationally tress. so basically, you remain in the tall. you talk to all the natal partners, but you don't get and you don't basically bed, even if they a get along with the onto the show sanctions or what have you. because there is no vote in nato, so you don't. you may express your criticism of sanctions and whatever you, but there's no vote. do you know the sanctions policy is not an institutionalized policy. okay. you'd say it's something like

a legal volunteers. okay. of the collective west if you like. and so what talked you did touch it even in 2014, when it will show our next cried. yeah, it said no sanctions and no sanchez, policy protect it, you know, which was a gain good old the iris critical of turkey's overall foreign policy in those years . i backed that. so here and without joining it until i shall sanctions and at the same time, keeping all the lines of communications open to moscow, enter chips to what you do. basically, you calculate best possible ties to moscow and you keep your statute, your position with jab, or quite sort of hard, shall i say portable and it sucks. you have on the stands, how be important to keep tucked on board and in a den,

then you are the deal break if you become a broker, basically. and he broke, he has broke. uh he's, he's done the green deal and he's also done several other deals. some of them went uh, without much publication. some something like exchange of what or prisoners of war, for instance, between german most crow. um and a now the russians understand the importance of tech. it's just one point to add um, touchy m a. even at the height of the cold war, managed to cultivate good relations with the soviet union from $9.00 to $6.00, the full price up to $84.00 for about 2 decades. and, you know, earning the confidence of moscow and a unit is a flushing economy through nations between the 2 nations and then m a touch it basically, they made

a lot of heavy industrial investments at the time with 12 yet no haul. and we'd solve yet supple dental that so it worked wonderful. well, we'll do each remain in nature. so if we can do it, if it could do it at the time, we can do it in a much better rate this time. why not? because it is often rolled in turkey's interest. so the nato countries, some of them is sort of mumble about it. you know, they may not like it, but this is life i've told. and this is what multiply or do brings about and talk to is out to benefit alta, auto multiple are now more broadly, as you alluded to, turkey out has walked a delicate line between balancing the east and the west. by most accounts where turkey sits on the map,

the country is the gateway to europe on one side and to asia on the other. now as blocks such as bricks plus or the c s t o, the seo or even be your agent, economic union continue to grow. how will truck in navigate those while there's pressure from nato partners to turn away? and i think at those pressures from nate to could well be counted by tack, a polite d m, and through diplomatic ways means and the western world. in general, we'd have to understand that turkey a is going to be one of the one in terms of its foreign policy formulation. and it's for them policy to exist sizes and is going to be a unique country, or one of the unique countries in the world. you know, multiple the world door to the, you know, as a unit, a unit plotted to is gone and multiply or it has the most. um,

now we are in a new situation in which i'm that tuck it. as it's joe graphic dictates is going to remain in nato and you know, quite uh, friendly with nato partners and allies and what have you. but at the same time, i would think it is getting to the resort to each need, talk power more for the content, then not okay. as we've seen it, which is sweet and lately. and so it is getting to, because after all, it is the, it has the 2nd largest armed forces of the united states with the nato. so i'd say it's a powerful country in military times, within nato and joe graphic. it makes it more powerful. the more important because it is a country, a medium size, medium sized country, which can project poverty more than one regions. so,

i'm old. that combined means that turkey is going to remain in the top, but at the same time, it is going to cultivate best possible ties. talk to other centers of world china, for instance, the belton wrote, and any shift, if the topic will a late date, the talk you talk, you will, is it has evolved into a, the national organization. so they enjoy turkey. and, you know, they get together. and a country like hazard by john, who has leaned over to catch it over the 2 decades. has anybody to it's at or to $530.00 tory so it's a sign of strength. and at the same time and is a, is into katya for what they should be doing. i'm are i shot again has become a very good partner. it is not only economy and trade, but we have and very good and uh,

deals with the russians over the nuclear power plant and a side to mol, tell, can russia have setup some sort of a, how shall i say? i'm the consultation mechanism over political matters. at region wide, which is, which has been working quite well over syria, over libya, over other problems. and at the same time, there is being above joining military relationship between talk in russia and in, in, in future. i won't take long perhaps, eh, for talk and russia to co produce modern technology weapons because turkey has become, has, has, and actually say, turkey has eh, talk to a defense industry. he's also coming up. it has come up to produce cutting edge

technology weapons and things, and the russians do appreciate that. now i've got to have one more thing about nato . what trove are the one to the accession of finland into nato? and where does that leave sweet? and will it ever happen for sweden? well, it is difficult to say yes or no. with the in the case of feeling that sweeten the, the, and the, and they did the hawks, vito poverty targeting sorta was because of the large numbers of, of p k, k and sympathizers and terrorist. and they're affiliated institutions and organizations freely operating in both in both countries initially. and that was old for swedish deals with the empty tray case, offshore of syria. that is why p g is

a p y d and all that, you know, and or, or all those groups and, and then it transpired that there is very few of them in sentiment, but most data, most dual painting in sweden and then the previous swedish government promised to cut off all that ties to the p k j and the city and its city an offshoot p y d and all that it had been financially backing that. but that are quite a number of the p k. k a. m a p k, a unit, p j j. sometimes there's one to kentucky by to talk to each low and get our opinions to also settle groups. you know, dates had to like to learn organization who carried out about that at cool in 2016 and, and at a touch of finland. and sweden signed up to him ma'am. are on the by which sweden

and finland promised to, to, to, to cut off all day relations with them. and they also promised to somehow eliminate that is not the eliminate may not be the right word, but you know, to, to do something proper to satisfy turkey. about those living in about those 10 or suspects living in a suite. but they are not taking the proper steps that tech has been asking for. um, so that is why i took is cleared funeral and uh, out of the deal. and then said, okay, pin number can come a can go in, but not sweden onto they basically a 2 day at home, okay. and then at the level those 10, our suspects to talk to should be good system. they haven't done so and we wait to,

we'll have to wait and see what happens. um, there is also the american side to do whole story because the americans had not been selling it at the latest uh, model of it succeeds to talking. it's a complicated story, they fight and administration by the name subs h edible on he's a, he's the guy that in the country out here as an ink cartridge about to call follow up. and, you know, the story is quite complicated in the us congress. the was a domain, it play games it talk jeep is to so it a type required. so on to talk to you, she told over the years because i've talked to the category 2 times between talk and israel. and now things are a bit better because of multiply it even by the sense that there's through the us congress and says, you know, we have to sell them to the doctor because the 30 said important need to ally and

all that. i'm a, we'd have to gain weight and wait and see, but meanwhile touchy is making each on tight to play. it is going to be on a par with s $35.00 technology. so that is also a something interesting because on the one hand they're not selling us the sort of a military accurate when we bond. but at the same time we meet at beckett abortion or what they. ready want to sell us and if this is being distorted over the last 40 years or so, dr. hass on you know, thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. you can follow doctor, you know, on his twitter at the house on, you know, 1920, thank you so much. thank you. thank you. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi. the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila. chad,

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a hard to imply it the controversial figure. who transformed a tale in politics. we are going to go to die. so the age of 86 form economy and plumbing us to cost wayne hospital. the a very when welcome, this is the international with the latest world news, updating very well. welcome to, you know, top story this all ukrainian shelling of the city of don't. yes. cuz left a woman dead ends at least 4 others wounded. according to local officials. according to reports, care forces phone bod, as an area and the railway station, killing the 20 year old mother and wounding. for others. the southern came from a multiple launch locate system and as rockland, and now being analyzed by russians. investigative committee sees ramon calls that were reported from the scene minutes off the incident one woman was skills hands,

the 3 people were wounded as the result of the ukrainian artillery attack. the woman's name was on this to see her mom's right now inside. it's very hard to come and tell them situations like these uh, the woman, honda says yeah, she was in the store when you crate in shell, hit right next to the railway station and now the 3 people were really good. they're not being treated at a hospital so can you remember how it all happened? did they didn't, will. there was some kind of showing behind the station and it was loud. then it was quiet and in one second to everything was in smithereens. what's wrong with your attention wound? i've already been to hospital, they did an x rays,

everything is fine. i just spoke with an associate as dad and she said that she just buried his son, who was fighting for the people's republic. and as she was, he was killed by ukrainian military and defending the city of domestic. this is a shell from a multiple launch rockets systems fired here by ukranian nationalist. now this is not the center of the city. this is a key. if kid district, it's a very popular place among the locals, as you can see, there are many shops there. and of course there is the railway station there as well. some of the bus lines have been destroyed as well. as i understand electricity is now down in this area to it's not very safe to stay here as this area is constantly under bombardment by ukrainian military. now you can see there's another guy showing us that he was the ones as by, by a show. but of course,

he didn't need treatments had a hospital, but as i'm talking right now, we can still hear shutting, taking place on the outskirts of done that. now several districts of the city have come under fire on this day to remind call for a marty the an extra public of the west. and russian region of belgrade was also targeted by hundreds of artillery shells supplied by ukrainians. forces over the weekend, according to local officials, a residential building of a ton of should be i can any of the pool that was among those hits, leaving this truck to in flames on his window, shots it on a 60000 people. it being evacuated to show to us across the area. i'll tease that shape those reports from one of the refugee centers. from here in belgrade, on one of the assistance points for the displays, people who have come from the surrounding villages that were recently attacked while ukrainian artillery and incursions by infiltration groups. as you can see, there are literally hundreds of people,

thousands of salt refuge here in belgrade. it's a huge humanitarian operation. people are getting psychological health, food, and the absolutely necessities for human existence. and it's only about something like this occurs and you see the scale of the impact of these attacks by the ukrainian ministry on what are essentially civilian targets. we've spoken to the mirror and he's outlined the size and the scale of the assistance that people are getting almost to. there were 3 large centers for the initial placement to residents from should be can. during the 1st day alone, we received accommodated and provided with food and medicine around 3 and a half 1000 people. however, many of them had obviously left the residential area without packing their personal belongings. so they were also in need of clothes and some hygiene essentials for that. for similar distribution points have been set up in the city, which you mandatory and aid supplied from all over the country. on behalf of the governor,

we had been preparing in advance for various emergency scenarios. so we were able to deploy everything very quickly. while i'm here at the, at belgrade sports center, one of several that is currently housing displaced people from the ship back in a region, a region recently attacked for i ukraine. we've seen an immense effort here to provide care and assistance to a huge range of people from very elderly, sick to young babies, children, pregnant women, an entire families. there's about 200 people here in the center. some people have decided that they will not return to shit back, you know, and are getting we house in other regions in areas. this is a cynical assault on civilians. targeted civilians misled to huge displacement of 10000 people. at least we know here in the belgrade region, i'm joined by devali square of belgrade region,

who's very kindly agreed to talk to us about the situation in the city right now. they've received a lot of displaced people from, from the surrounding regions which is separate attacks. there's a 200 people in this center alone. alexander, thanks very much for talking to us. how many people altogether has fail, garage received as displays people? what's the total prostate need you to a total of the past week about 10 thousands of all fellow countrymen from cubic, you know, have boss with temporary accommodation facilities. this indeed, a unique situation in belgrade with a large bowl into you movement and which medical students, including for and ones are actively participating. so we're here at the university of belgrade, where the students, local doctors and doctors from the region have come to assist the people who've been displaced from should back in on the surrounding villages. it's an incredible effort their mobile clinics, and it must be said that the work of the students here who are even spending their own money,

their own time to come and help their fellow citizens and the people that they've never met before. it's really a remarkable thing to witness. the situation is horrible. it's true about how our students are very kind. and they always like here to help people. and it's not to say that the 1st step, evil or lazy. some of those we have a shower, refrigerator, t, v, iron, kettle, everything, the food is great. i think there is no panic here. everything has been organized very well in such a short space of time. volunteers bring food to the rooms of the girls. the students collect money for a true, they ask what people need and then buy the products. there's also still a bright side to the story if you like. when facilities like these mobile units are brought into play. all the medical care is being met and you can use

a small one is that people have been evacuated here are clearly in need of how long conversations and consolation so many doctors are here working also as psychotherapists about the human side of this conflict showing is true that people want peace, they want to see people left in peace and truly that's what we should be talking about. but unfortunately, the western media piece is not even mentioned anymore. i suppose it's the mosque slips. now, as we see, towns like your back, you know, in belgrade b indiscriminately attacked with nato supplied weapons, specifically targeting civilians. the same behavior that has been denied by ukrainian military and their nato sponsors for 10 years. and, and don't ask in, in the east of ukraine. the russian president, vladimir peyton, has avoided metals to serve as many woods in military operations. during his visit to the vision, the epsky central military hospital, the president spoke to

a number of russian soldiers to undergoing medical treatment. it was much on science by russian defense when association were due on the head of the hospital. alexander, yes, a cold blooded my face in praise, the military personnel, so that braver, the really does need to tell you how important it is for the country in order for it to be independent to strengthen it in order to protect the people in these territories. these are our people, they feel positive people, and it's on duty to protect them, which we're doing, which you are doing risk in your lives, the lives of your come rates. risk in your health. russians have been celebrating that national holiday for the 1st time rushed to day was celebrates and the don't yes. click downs test on that. for those who have regents that were incorporated into the russian federation following a referendum last year,

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