on the other side, unity is and the americans came with the idea. yes, interaction incorporation is is fantastic. excellent. but before we start, let's, let's you should, uh, you should accept. that's our values. our set of, uh, no big sort of a set of perceptions is correct and do you need to adopt it? and then we can go up the events. so and this value base think, and i would say this is ideology was quoted, this is ideological approach that has the rail, the lots because puts himself to the opposite. let's start with interest. let's start with our know, 10 creeds. um the interconnection and then we will see a rush. i will slowly move towards a more or less same uh, same uh, kind of a political system on so long. but this is our way. this is our decision. the lesson position was not the 1st. you should change and then it. and 2nd,

2nd 3 is on which unfortunately turn to officer, the terminal and faithful for our, our corporation in a rush i believed and which is believed historically and contemporary that the russia, as a great power through additional, great power has the right to have a sphere of influence to have a c or what are its interests are being respected? the some would say they're mutually exclusive. those do, but uh and also catherine. the great isn't here to talk about the fact that she too, wanted to move for those of the at the westwards. give really. yeah, i can't speak about specifics then right now. so the position we're in, it's clear i'm putting your into aside when i return to them is i can add to the blinking against a ceasefire. i mean, did it surprise you, how far they're going to go to the end?

it was a bar, as johnson sent to destroy the chinese piece plan for ukraine being sent to the lens. again saying look, this is a fight to the end regardless of nuclear weapon use. politically. i think that unfortunately, i'm just now i have no chance for any kind of piece discussions, beat open discussions or even even discussions because we are in the middle of a, an extremely um cv or fierce battle. yes, indeed, both sides perceive it as a exist angel on the russian side, if you ask anybody in the ruling group or even very many else citizens, ordinary citizens, they would say that after what happens and after what is happening now. uh, the only goal of the west and ukraine is

a new samantha in western hines. the only goal is to destroy russia is a great state ridge bower, completely. so in a way that the dresser will never recover. and this is the believe here, on the other side, seeing for united states, this is a very, to actually really a month and maybe a correct assessment that the, if you grade will be defeated, or at least if russia will achieve significant goals there, that will be a very serious blow joe, us, i mean, nation in the world and process threats which we see already now that are the guns we start to look around and go on to accept to us. so the primacy anymore. this process will be kind of like like, uh, like a levine. so that's what i, what i uh think is the, uh, the situation now,

which means that there is no compromise. one side should when. and this is the situation right now. feel doing that kind of stuff to you that more from the editor in chief of rusher and global affairs, and chairman of the presidium of the russian council on foreign and defense policy . after this break, the it'd be really going to be in the water. you were the ones that are going to the country are, has this dental situation in front of the vehicle, the, the, the interior just that we will talk to to be a bulky but certainly be honest. 3500 of us in the

some nations may be able to turn a blind eyes to atrocities. another comes the united states of america is different wherever people long to be free. they will find a friend in the united states. the seem to be an automated body, bolts and a very, very easy to sort of city encourage all the look at what the in service of each skid 18 color revolutions is. one among several means to reach the goal of conquering foreign lands and bringing them on to the helm of of us the western economic interest people been cited. i do not see this when i go by, the democrats see a new training portal acted sol, suite of us

a little bit. so by way, i mean, he can see the final goal of these theme or of allusions to ensure that there are no independent players in the world anymore. the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the editor in chief of russia in global affairs for your daughter, the count of we'll, the speed of the multi polarity, of course, is a major issue. russia obviously wanted to quicker, sooner rather than later you were talking about what some might see is regions early in the even g. a, this is optimism, is russia and rationally to game making the same mistake because the other one is being re elected. what does he do send took his troops to kosovo, to reinforce nato in uh, against the population that we've seen. um, we've seen him presumably making

a difference to have sweden back in nato. serbia is alexander village. what? ready to say that? munitions is a lensky in the, in the bowl, from the balkans, lula neutral saudi arabia neutral, avowedly why not all these different powers? okay, then not supporting the west in your band. the united states. the minority of nations is on voice by population low to the un general assembly. but is there a not able to hear about the speed of bricks, hedge a monic power us? uh no, i wouldn't call it and i have it. yeah. and more than that, so you say, rick, send you money, power. you know, that's, that's the very western view that if one human is being uh, the, the, the post from that position, then another head jim on should come, multi posed a huge amount of power then. yeah, but multiple available as

a morning power has no age limit. so you know that this, this is the question and more than that, it's my personal view. i don't represent anybody here, but i think that even multiple hour to, in the sense which we saw it before. and that was a to, for the to put it bluntly. how did we imagine multi polarity is a then you have a single, 15 years ago when we expired that something, blanca european costs to, to, for school pop onto the powers. imagine century, not the 100 among, but say, 3 or 46 countries. i'm not sure that you had on our well that because of what followed. that was will one and we'll do it to exist. exactly. exactly. that's what i say. what the, what i'm trying to say that we imagined multi polarity because we, we have, we have no other other power or low. so we imagines like this. but what do we see now is actually a multiple lot of the in the sounds that he g my, me or dummy nation is not available anymore. even the united states understand that

to. yeah, we have a more, a more players, more and more countries which has something to see. some of them are very big, like china, like russia, like india. some of them are less the middle sized countries like sort of key we should mention, like saudi arabia. some of them are very tiny countries, like, uh, for instance, kept are. but old, those countries, they have some influence on what is going on in the world. there's absolutely new situation. we could, we couldn't imagine say 2025 was 2 or 3 years ago that had gone 3 insides of copped are, would be, uh, should be, uh, should be regarded as a player. and then this is what is coming. and in this, in this, in a big picture, what do you said about serbia, about turkey, about other countries?

that's a new, that's a new normal. it's because every country is trying to survive. and every country is trying to pursue its own national interest. and this is normal, rationally, it's trying to do that, but everybody else as well, what we, what we is, what we are leaving. i mean this no rules based order. and so that this is a situation when everybody should do what is has being prescribed by somebody. now it's solar and this, this is in your situation. now, turkey, it is sending people to cool. so tomorrow to work it is a helping crush and to, to settle some very important issues the day after tomorrow. turkey works with, i don't know whom with the for arms about something that's, that's a normal thing. you know, and this is actually what we saw in the history of international relations for 4

centuries. so the theory, the after the 2nd world war was actually done exemption. not the room as well. uh grams. yeah, of course we invented that hedge a monic. i meant the global working class was the instrument, so that's kind of multi polar. but where is the well, your viewing, which it goes, ironically is a kind a world pronounced from, from the us state department. but clearly, i think anyone in the world will realize that that was a, that's a, that's a p r stunt that the, the us use. but the point is that why you want this lovely will do it much. the recess of nations in moscow in saint petersburg as a drone attack on the kremlin blink and talking about a strategic failure for russia. as i don't even know whether russia even understands that they certainly have a 1340 can on the board with finland to guard against at nato,

sheffield. and of course, as, as to nature, the other day, i mean, was rush or even guarding the know and stream from attack. that's why the single mainstream media in nature, nations talked about imminent demise of russia. you know, the, the period, the time when uh when, when we leave. now that's an absolutely exceptional moment in history. okay. not exceptional. such moments happen. but not so no, so frequently. so no, it's not each generation leaves through something like this. when the whole world system is drifting apart and changing, transforming into something completely different in this regard, changes to they are bigger then changes. so 2 plus years ago and community as a collapse because uh bipolar system disappeared. but is the additional framework

of international relations. the, the remainder of the time and the survive time to until recently now it is collapsing to and if we look through this lands thrilled 0 through the through to this prison. then of course, uh such kinds of changes cannot be easy, cannot be, uh quick as cannot be uh, painless. so why, why does the ross shops we prepare for such kind of scale? you know, uh, what do we uh, predicted imagine this kind of uh, uh, collapse. so the previous set up a relationship? no. oh uh once they told you it was disappointed with how things have gone. yes, put 14 is it pull edition how he can, how he can say to the whole public that he was disappointed. he is a, he's a leader of the nation. he has no rights to to be disappointed. thanks to that so

that i, i, it's easier for, for me i can, i can analyze the slightly more know, openly so, and you know what you, you ask and you, you quote, this assessment that the rushes in in decline and the mice at the end of the day again, we started with the saying that we are now at war, i mean, a big war, high breakthrough, or whatever, how you call it the proxy war. but this is a big war between the russia and the west. uh, and this war uh, fortunately is not yet is not the direct collision, but we are moving towards that unfortunately, and easily teasing more. why should we expect is to move a continuation of the things which we go to go to used to. of course it's impossible. so the problem with me, for example, and my colleagues a year and

a half ago, when basically when almost all of us failed to predict what was coming was very, very, very simple. we, we underestimate that the scale of changes would stop in the world, not just between the russian, ukraine, will russians, united states. this is a, was process we on the risk and method that, and that's why it'd be cool. no beginning of a special military operation, of course, as by surprise. now we're on the stand this scale, and unfortunately we need to, we need to accept this scale will be extremely traumatic for all of us. yeah, presumably it's not cold war by the rest of the government in special military operations, because if the russians really wanted to take your grand tomorrow, they'd use that croft and mass casualties and that would be a war. so let's get on to western europe then, because if i was standing, use it for drinking cool district. things are strategic for any of

a rush. it is the you from your vantage point and you told me to c o is. i've seen you and, well, the st. petersburg is coming up. you've spoken to all these sorts of people. as far as you can see, is that you bankrupting itself a germany now in recession. we don't know how much poverty. we'll kill people in western europe because you have these, the pow wow. so of the economy in europe, let alone, how many died because of node stream because of the cold and the higher energy prices in that fluctuating energy prices in your so i'm not qualified to, to assess the economic pool. is it a sofa germany or other european countries? so i thing that uh, actually we hear in the russia over as the made sense or um the rest of may, the resilience of your vehicle on them is in the same way as the west underestimate that the reserves are brush nickel and but what is important i think it's, it's not my view is the view of mr. bar l, for example. who said the in

a speech half a year ago or so, talking to the, to european diplomats, i the representative. so i'm going to be in union will wipe said very clearly that our, our prosperity, european for spare it to was based on 2 sources, cheap russian energy and cheap chinese labor. uh, and that was a very successful model for you or for the kids. the coming back to, to maybe 50 is or 60 simply 6 isn't seventy's. now, in solar, you said, and that means that europe will need a completely new economic model. and this economic model will not be based on all those advantages it had before. a russian european and the general relationship was fantastically good for both sides. unbelievably good. just very,

very briefly. what is the st. petersburg the international we cannot make for him because globally, i don't think joseph morals is invited this year. what is of starting from last year, it is more in, in the board little kink is more re entered towards domestic development. despite this fact uh, there are some, uh, relatively many for and guess a mostly from so called friendly countries. non europe known us. but of course, for russia, as for the you, for your opinions that's time to talk to, olivia says they cannot make model and model of economic development. and i know that in the, or you'll moderating some of the important discussions they have fewer. thank you. thank you. very much and that's it for the show will be back on saturday with a brand new episode with the deal. then you can keep in touch my role as social media, give it to not sense that in your country. and i do a general going underground tv on mobile dot com to watch new and old episodes of

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hospital in the the very will welcome this is all the international with the latest world news update is good to have you with us the top story ukrainian showing of the city of don. yes. cuz left a woman in death and at least 4 others wounded according to local officials, ukrainian forces. bon bonded an area near a railway station, killing the 20 year old mother and wounding for this. the ceiling came from a multiple launch walk in the system as fragments, and now being out of nice by rushes investigative committee, once he's with on cost or propose it from the scene minutes off of the incidents of the one woman. it was skills hands, the 3 people were wounded as the result of the ukrainian artillery attack. the woman's name was on this to see her mom's right now inside.

it's very hard to come and tone situations like these. the woman hand this to see how she was in the store. when are you crazy and shell? hit right next to the railway station. and now the 3 people were willing that they're not being treated at a hospital the can you remember how it all happened? did they kimball, there was some kind of showing behind the station and it was loud. then it was quiet in one second. everything was in smithereens. what's wrong with your attention wound? i've already been to hospital, they did an x ray, everything is fine. i just spoke with an associate as dads, and she said that he just buried his son who was fighting for the people's republic and that he was,

he was killed by ukrainian military defending the city of domestic. this is a shell from a multiple launch rockets systems wired here by ukrainian nationalist. now this is not the center of the city. this is a key. if kid district, it's a very popular place among the locals. as you can see, there are many shops there, and of course there is a railway station there as well. some toilet bus lines have been destroyed as well . as i understand electricity is now down in this area. it suits that it's not very safe to stay here. as this area is constantly under bombardment by ukrainian military. now you can see there's another guy showing us that he was the ones as by or by a shell. but of course, he didn't need treatments, had a hospital. but as i'm talking right now, we can still hear shutting, taking place on the outskirts of done that. now several districts of the city have

come under fire on this day to remind call for emergency donuts republic. the western russian region of belgrade was also targeted by hundreds of on celery shells. find find ukrainian forces over the weekend, according to local officials. a residential building of a time or so back in any of the boulder was among those hits, leaving the structure in flames. on this window, shots it, on a 60000 people are being evacuated to shelters across the area, to shape those reports from one of the refugees from. from here in belgrade, one of the assistance points for the displaced people who have come from the surrounding villages that were recently attacked by ukrainian artillery and incursions by infiltration groups. as you can see, there are literally hundreds of people, thousands of salt refuge here in belgrade. it's a huge humanitarian operation. people are getting psychological health, food, and the absolutely necessities for human existence that it's only what something

like this occurs and you see the scale of the impact of these attacks by the ukrainian ministry on water essentially civilian targets. we've spoken to the mirror and he's outlined the size and the scale of the assistance that people are getting almost to. there were 3 large centers for the initial placement to residents from cubic and during the 1st day alone we received accommodated and provided with food and medicine around 3 and a half 1000 people. however, many of them had obviously left the residential area without packing their personal belongings. so they were also in need of clothes and some hygiene essentials for that. for similar distribution points have been set up in the city, which you mandatory and aid supplied from all over the country. and on behalf of the governor, we had been preparing in advance for various emergency scenarios. so we were able to deploy everything very quickly. while i'm here at the, at belgrade sports center, one of several that is currently housing displaced people from the ship back in

a region, a region recently attacked by ukraine. we've seen an immense effort here to provide care and assistance to a huge range of people from very elderly, sick to young babies, children, pregnant women, an entire families. there's about 200 people here in the center. some people have decided that they will not return to shit back, you know, and are getting re house in other regions in areas this. the cynical assault on civilians targeted civilians on this led to huge displacement of 10000 people. at least we know here in the belgrade region, i'm joined by devali square of belgrade region, who's very kindly agreed to talk to us about the situation in the city right now. they've received a lot of displaced people from, from the surrounding regions which have suffered attacks. there's a 200 people in this center alone. alexander,

thanks very much for talking to us. how many people altogether has belgrade received us displays people? what's the total speed you need you to over the past week about 10 thousands of all fellow countryman from cubic you know, has the boss with temporary accommodation facilities. this indeed, a unique situation in belgrade with a large role into movement and which medical students, including foreign ones, are actively participating. so we're here at the university of belgrade, where the students, local doctors and doctors from the region have come to assist the people who have been displaced from should beck and on the surrounding villages. it's an incredible effort their mobile clinics, and it must be said that the work of the students here who are even spending their own money, their own time to come and help their fellow citizens and the people that they've never met before. it's really a remarkable thing to witness. the situation is horrible. it's true about how

students are very kind and they always like here to help people and it's not true or somebody say that they are evil or lazy. some of those we have a shower, refrigerator, t, v, iron, kettle, everything. the food is great. i think there is no panic here. everything has been organized very well in such a short space of time. volunteers bring food to the rooms. the girls, the students collect money for aid. they ask what people need and then buy the products. there's also still a bright side to the story if you like. when facilities like these mobile units are brought into play. all the medical care is being met and new to these are small vendors that people have been evacuated here are clearly in need of help. long conversations and consolation so many doctors are here working also as psychotherapists about the human side of this conflict showing it's true that

people want peace. they want to see people left in peace and truly that's what we should be talking about. but unfortunately, the western media piece is not even mentioned anymore. i suppose it's the mosque slips now as we see towns like sure back, you know, in belgrade be indiscriminately attacked with nato supplied weapons. specifically targeting civilians. the same behavior that has been denied by ukrainian military and their nato sponsors for 10 years and, and don't ask in, in the east of ukraine. the russians have been celebrating the national holiday for the 1st time rush, the day was celebrated in the don't. yes, click downloads care so and answer for those regions that were incorporated into the russian federation. following the referendum, lost in the main festivities, took place in the house of moscow red square as culminated with a fine. what display of the correspondent le reported from the celebrations and

accomplish so. we are right now in the very heart of the russian capital, celebrating russia, they say 99 meters upside. that that's the ration of russ as they saw for in the points. basically as the report, one of the very 1st step of the dissolution of the new was to start 1994 at this day became a public holiday. but it was not really windy, celebrated until the early 2000. when the russian president had put a lot of effort to promote the holiday and celebrated, you may ask, what do or their new russians do on this day? well, right now, we are at one of the many concerts that are happening for the race. and not only that, but their own festivals during the day, not only the ordinary people celebrate, but they also celebrate a prominent a permanent russian writers or.