the pose and the city indeed there, how a l i sought, but then the americans didn't follow it. what they wanted to do, although it was the american. so got to in that be great and creating a big mess in syria and all that. so basically, an indian he came down to where he should be in the right at the beginning. okay. coming up next, we'll explore turkey's vital role in the ongoing conflict in ukraine. we'll discuss it when we return with dr. hass on know. so type the m o will be right back the the there are leaves, then there are these,

this is how some nato countries approaching grains. membership in the alliance will be us like military alliance to attempt to invite to, to the club, to some kind of back door at the upcoming summit, the as a. how are they a cps? because they kept the scroll. so i'd be search and then use familiar email. you're just going to send them to the urls the not see theory of racial superiority, finish style for years of creating an ssl all the place and 14 concentration comes . so the full prisoner of war, labor comes 10 prisons really well, you know, think she's the media venue. so i'm assuming you need even the, the chest really to get over that cliff is gonna send me the law is going to be approximately 25000 people went through the occupied to go finish camps according

to official figures. these move stuff suddenly level if the ship did utility and i gave you an idea, i'm not sure it's just the size of the stuff. so the youngest that i me, i'm not sure what the firm in disease forced labor to achieve by the world is formulas. what was the last it also need you to do was to take it to you, but that it's a terrible human off with those who put in these 9, push these things up to give you what feeling do to recreate the thousands of testimonies of crimes and the impunity of criminals. when you look i hear you know, wanted to do to speak. it's not even a good idea. yeah. for the good i see it are released upon me. say that besides the good you can sort of please don't just do because you put it as being yet that was put in the word along the

the welcome back to the m o m l a chance turkey's position on the map puts this country on a tightrope with how to handle some of today's major issues like getting rushing rain out of the conflict zone in the black sea to reach parts of the world. who need it? most. doctor hass on you know is back with us professor. some of them are the ones political successes as of late have revolved around his careful handling of the conflict in ukraine, most notably brokering the blacks the grain deal and it's extension. now he's been merged as something of a deal broker in the region. how do you view, are the ones for and policies thus far? and what do you expect to see in his 3rd term in the way of foreign policy?

a. well 1st, and i should point out that i was a critique office at handling on foreign policy. some you know, until 3 years ago, because indeed i was probably the most boss affairs critic among the academia and a because for about 10 years or so, he turned almost everyone in the region to gaze tactic because the policy he being part student was some sort of um, uh, is la missed is hired. i deal logically draper and, um, uh too much is leaning on the united states and the europeans and, but to have your and all this basic back fired on his face. and i had been at predicting that this was going to be tied up the cost of the, for the tech,

and for him and the administration, he basically let and i was proven right some, but i would say it was about 3 years ago or the twin a hall prophecy, and basically he began to tie drop his house in terms of reconsidering his spot of policy and she did a wonderful job out of the mattress. so she basically add the, made up with this, how these with united up image rates and then egypt and israel, you know, i was so insistent on both agent and each of the country should actually, and the makeup would because the congo on like this, i said and then he focused on syria. meanwhile, on the great new crisis, i certainly, he's still clear and ready, you know, a wonderful mid way policy,

which is very much in line with doctors nationally tress. so basically you remain in the tall, you talk to over to natal partners, but you don't get and you don't basically bed, even if they get along with the onto the show sanctions or what have you. because there is no vote in nato, so you don't, you may express your criticism of sanctions and whatever you, but there's no vote. do you know the assumptions policy is not an institutionalized policy. okay. you'd say it's something like a legal volunteers. okay. of the collective west, if you like. and so what talked you did touch it even in 2014 when it will show our next cried. yeah, it said no sanctions and no sanchez policy protected it, which was a gain good old the iris, critical of turkey's overall foreign policy in those years. i backed that. so here

and without joining the entourage of sanctions and at the same time, keeping all the lines of communications opened to moscow, enter chips to what you do. basically, you calculate best possible ties to moscow and you keep your statute, your position with jab, or quite sort of hard, shall i say portable and it sucks. you have on the stands, how be important to keep tucked on board and in a den, then you are the deal break if you become a broker, basically. and he broke, he has broke. uh he's, he's done the green deal and he's also done several other deals. some of them went uh, without much publication. some something like exchange of water or the prisoners of war, for instance, between german most cool. um and

a now the russians understand the importance of tech. it's just one point to add um, touchy m a. even at the height of the cold war, managed to cultivate good relations with the soviet union from $9.00 to $6.00, the full price up to $84.00 for about 2 decades. and, you know, earning the confidence of moscow and a unit is a flushing economy through nations between the 2 nations and then m a touch it basically, they made a lot of heavy industrial investments at the time with 12 yet no haul. and which soviet softball general that so it worked wonderful. well, we'll do each remain in nature. so if we can do it, if it could do it at the time, we can do it in a much better rate this time. why not?

because it is often rolled in turkey's interest. so the nato countries, some of them is sort of mumble about it. you know, they may not like it, but this is life i've told. and this is what multiply or do brings about and talk is out to benefit alta, auto multiple are now more broadly, as you alluded to, turkey out has walked a delicate line between balancing the east and the west. by most accounts where turkey sits on the map, the country is the gateway to europe on one side and to asia on the other. now as blocks such as bricks plus or the c s t o, the seo or even be your agent, economic union continue to grow. how will truck can navigate those while there's pressure from nato partners to turn away? and i think at those pressures from nate to could well be

counted by tact, a polite d m. and through a diploma to waste means and the western world. in general, we'd have to understand that turkey a is going to be one of the one in terms of its foreign policy formulation and it's for them. policy exist sizes, m is going to be a unique country or one of the unique countries in the world. you know, multiple the world door to the, you know, as a unit you mean you plotted to is gone and multiply or it has the most now we are in a new you have a situation in which a bad tuck it as it's joe graphic dictates is going to remain in nato and you know, quite uh, friendly with nato partners and allies and what have you. but at the same time,

i would think it is getting to the resort to each need talk power more for that content, then not. okay. as we've seen it, which is sweet and lately, and so it is getting to because after all, it is the, it has the 2nd largest armed forces of the united states with the nato. so it's a, it's a powerful country in military times within me to and jo graphic. it makes it more powerful. the more important because it is a country, a medium size, medium sized country, which can project poverty more than one regions. so i'm old. that combined means that turkey is going to remain in the top, but at the same time, it is going to cultivate best possible ties. talk to other centers of world china, for instance, the belton wrote, and any shift, if the topic will late date, the talk you talk, you will, is it has evolved into

a to national organization. so they enjoy turkey. and you know, they get together. and a country like hazard by john who has leaned over to talk j over the 2 decades has anybody to it's at or to 530 tory so it's a sign of strength. and at the same time and is a, is indicated for what they should be doing. i'm or i shot again has become a very good partner. it is not only economy and trade, but we have and very good and uh, deals with directions over the new cap power plant. and a photo mol, tell, can russia have setup some sort of a, how shall i say? i'm the consultation mechanism over political matters at region wide, which is, which has been working quite well over syria,

over libya or other problems. and at the same time, there is being at both joining military relationship between talk in russia and in, in, in future. i won't take long perhaps, eh, for talk and russia to co produce modern technology weapons because turkey has become, has, has, and actually say, tucked a has eh, talk to a defense industry. he's also coming up. it has come up to produce cutting edge technology weapons and things, and the russians do appreciate that. now, i gotta add one more thing about nato. what trove are the one to the accession of finland into nato and, and where does that leave suite? and will it ever happen for sweden as well? it is difficult to say yes or no, with the, in the case of fiddler den sweet and the, the, and the, uh,

they did the hawks a veto poverty targeting sorta was because of the large numbers of p k, k and sympathizers and terrorist and they're affiliated institutions and organizations freely operating in both in both countries initially. and that was old for swedish deals with the empty tray cuz of short of syria. that is why p g is a p y d animal that you know and all those groups. i'm and then it transpired that there is very few of them in finland, but most data, most dual painting in sweden. and then the previous swedish government promised to cut off all dead ties to the p j j. and the city and its city an offshoot

b y d and all that it had been financially backing that. but that are quite a number of the p k. k. a. m a p k, a unit, p j j. sometimes there's one to kentucky by to talk to low and that are up and to also talk groups, you know, dates had to like to learn organization who jedi dot the aborted at cool in 2016 and, and at a touch of finland and eh, we done signed up to him ma'am, are on the by which sweden and finland promised to, to, to, to cut off all day relations with them. and they also promised to somehow eliminate that. it's not, eliminate may not be that i would, but you know, to, to do something proper to satisfy turkey, about those living in about those 10 or suspects,

living in sweden. but they are not taking the proper steps that tech has been asking for. um, so that is why i took is cleared funeral and uh, out of the deal and then said okay, fair enough to can come a can go in, but not sweden onto they basically a 2 day at home. okay. and then at deliver those 10 or suspects to talk to you should be good system. they haven't done so and we wait to, we'd have to wait and see what happens. there is also the american side to do whole story because the americans had not been selling that at the latest. and most of it succeeds to talking. it's a complicated story. they bite in administration by the name subs h edible. i'm, he's a, he's the guy that in the country out here as an ink cartridge. you both took off up

and, you know, the story is quite complicated in the us congress. uh, was it domina, play games at tod, cheapest to. so i eat a tech required, so on to talk to you, she told me over the years because of turkish territory, to ties between tucked and israel. and now things are a bit better because all multiply, even by the sense that there's through the us congress and says, you know, we have to sell them to the doctor because the doctor you said, important need to ally and all that. i'm a would have to again wait and wait and see. but meanwhile touchy is making each on tight to play. it is going to be on a par with s $35.00 technology. so that is also a something interesting because on the one hand, they're not selling us the sort of

a military accurate when we bond. but at the same time, we made it back to the russian or what they don't want to sell us. and if this is being distorted over the last 40 years or so, dr. hass on you know, thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. you can follow dr. no on his twitter at the house on you know, 1920. thank you so much. thank you. thank you. all right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that digs deep into foreign policy and current affairs. i'm your host manila. chad, thanks for tuning in. we'll see you again next time to figure out the m o the

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the very will welcome this is on the international with the latest world news update is good to have you with us the top story ukrainian showing of the city of don yes, cuz left a woman in debt and at least 4 others wounded according to local officials, ukrainian forces. bon bonded an area near a railway station killing the 20 year old mother and wounding for us as the showing came from a multiple launch walk it system as fragments. and now being analyzed by russia's investigative committee, sees with long calls to report it from the scene. minutes of the incident. one woman was skills hands, the 3 people were wounded as the result of the ukrainian artillery attack. the woman's name was on this to see her mom's right now inside

it's very hard to come and tone situations like these. uh, the woman. honda says yeah, she was in the store when you create young shell. hit right next to the railway station and now the 3 people were wounded. they're not being treated at a hospital. so can you remember how it all happened? they did, they didn't, will. there was some kind of showing behind the station and it was loud. then it was quiet and in one second, everything was in smithereens. what's wrong with your attention wound? i've already been to the hospital, they did an x rays. everything is fine. i just spoke with an associate as dads, and he said that he just buried his son who was fighting for the people's republic. and as he was,

he was killed by ukrainian military defending the city of domestic. this is a shell from a multiple launch rockets systems fired here by ukranian nationalist. now this is not the center of the city. this is a key. if kid district, it's a very popular place among the locals. as you can see, there are many shops there, and of course there is the railway station there as well. some trolley bus lines have been destroyed as well as i understand electricity is now down in this area. so it's not very safe to stay here as this area is constantly under bombardment by ukrainian military. now you can see there's another guy showing us that he was the ones as by, by a shell. but of course, he didn't need treatments, had a hospital. but as i'm talking right now, we can still hear shutting, taking place on the outskirts of done that. now several districts of the city have

come under fire on this day to remind call for a marty the next republic, the west and the russian region of belgrade. was also targeted by hundreds of on tele, re, shows, find fi, ukrainian forces over the weekend according to local officials, a residential building of a time or so back in, in the, the folder was among those hits leaving the structure in flames on this window shots, it with a 60000 people, it being evacuated to shelters across the area. i'll teach shape those reports from one of the refugees. i'm from here in belgrade on one of the assistance points for the displays. people who have come from the surrounding villages that were recently attacked while ukrainian artillery and incursions by infiltration groups. as you can see, there are literally hundreds of people, thousands of salt refuge here in belgrade. it's a huge humanitarian operation. people are getting psychological health, food, and the absolutely necessities for human existence. and it's only about something

like this occurs and you see the scale of the impact of these attacks by the ukrainian ministry on what are essentially civilian targets. we've spoken to the mirror and he's outlined the size and the scale of the assistance that people are getting almost to. there were 3 large centers for the initial placement to residents from cubic and during the 1st day alone we received accommodated and provided with food and medicine around 3 and a half 1000 people. however, many of them had obviously left the residential area without packing their personal belongings. so they were also in need of clothes and some hygiene essentials for that. for similar distribution points have been set up in the city, which you mandatory and aid supplied from all over the country. on behalf of the governor, we had been preparing in advance for various emergency scenarios. so we were able to deploy everything very quickly. while i'm here at the, at belgrade sports center, one of several that is currently housing displaced people as from the ship,

back in a region at a region recently attacked by ukraine. we've seen an immense effort here to provide care and assistance to a huge range of people from very elderly, sick to young babies, children, pregnant women and to hire families. there's about 200 people here in the center. some people have decided that they will not return to shit back, you know, and are getting we house in other regions in areas this. the cynical assault on civilians targeted civilians misled to huge displacement of 10000 people. at least we know here in the belgrade region, i'm joined by the voice mer of belgrade region is very kindly agreed to talk to us about the situation in the city right now. they've received a lot of displaced people from, from the surrounding regions which are separate attacks. there's a 200 people in this center alone. alexander,

thanks very much for talking to us. how many people altogether has fail, garage received as displays? people? what's the total of the prostate need you to over the past week about 10 thousands of all fellow countryman from cubic you know, his boss with temporary accommodation facilities. this indeed, a unique situation in belgrade with a large role into your movement and which medical students, including 4 and ones, are actively participating. so we're here at the university of belgrade, where the students, local doctors and doctors from the region have come to assist the people who've been displaced from should back in on the surrounding villages. it's an incredible effort their mobile clinics, and it must be said that the work of the students here who are even spending their own money, their own time to come and help their fellow citizens and the people that they've never met before. it's really a remarkable thing to witness. the situation is horrible. it's about how our

students are very kind and they always like here to help people and it's not true or somebody say that even we're lazy. those we have a shower, refrigerator, t, v, iron, kettle, everything. the food is great. i think there is no panic here ever. everything has been organized very well in such a short space of time volunteers bring food to the rooms. the girls, the students collect money for aid. they ask what people need and then buy the products. there's also still a bright side to the story if you like. when facilities like these mobile units are brought into play. all the medical care is being met and you can use a small one is that people have been evacuated here are clearly in need of help. long conversations and consolation so many doctors are here working. also a psycho therapist. it's about the human side of this conflict showing through the

people one piece. they want to see people left in peace and truly that's what we should be talking about. but unfortunately, the western media piece is not even mentioned anymore. i suppose it's the mosque slips. now, as we see, towns like your back, you know, in belgrade b indiscriminately attacked with nato supplied weapons, specifically targeting civilians. the same behavior that has been denied by ukrainian military and their nato, a sponsors for 10 years and, and don't ask in, in the east of ukraine. the russians have been celebrating that national holiday for the 1st time rush, the day was celebrated in the don't. yes, clear downs care. some of that for those, the regions that were incorporated into the russian federation following a referendum lost in the main festivities, took place in the house of moscow red square and culminated to the fine. what display of the corresponded le reported from the celebrations and accomplished as

we are right now in the very heart of the russians capital celebrated russia, 1699. the leaders upside a declaration of process they saw for in the points basically as the report in russia, it was one of the very 1st step of the dissolution of being you was to sar 1994 at this day became a public holiday, but it was not really why the celebrated until the early 2000, when the russian president put in put a lot of effort to promote the holiday and celebrated you may have to order new russian new on this day. well, right now we are at one of the many concerts that are happening and well fed their rates, and not only that, but their own festivals during the day. not only the ordinary people celebrate, but they also celebrate a prominent a permanent russian writers or sciences. and on this day the russian president