on the other side, unity is an american scheme with the idea. yes. interaction and cooperation is, is fantastic. excellent. but before we start, let's, let's you should, uh, you should accept. that's our values. our set though, for the beach or a set of perceptions is correct and do you need to adopt it? and then we can go up to date. and so, and this value base thinking, i would say this is ideology. of course, this is ideological approach that has the rail the lots because puts you on, stab to the opposite. let's start with interest. let's start with our no concrete um the interconnection and then we will see a rush. i will slowly move towards a more or less same uh, same uh, kind of uh, political system on so long. but this is our way. this is our decision. the lesson position was not the 1st you should change and then it. and 2nd, 2nd reason,

which unfortunately turn to officer the terminal and faithful for our uh, our uh, corporation. in a rush, i believed and which, and believed historically and the contemporary that the russia, as a great power through additional, great power has the right to have a sphere of influence. so have a c or whether it's interest are being respected. the some would say they're mutually exclusive. those do, but uh and also catherine. the great isn't here to talk about the fact that she too wanted to move it is also gonna be at westwards. give me. yeah. well it gets pretty good. the specifics then right now. so the position we're in, it's clear i'm putting your a to aside when i return to them as i can add to the blinking against us these 5. i mean, did it surprise you? how far they going to go to the end?

it was a bar, as johnson sent to destroy the chinese piece plan for ukraine being sent to the lens again saying, look, this is a fight to the end, regardless of nuclear weapon use. politically. i think that unfortunately, just now i have no chance for any kind of piece discussions, beat open discussions or even even discussions because we are in the middle of a, an extremely cv or fierce battle. yes, indeed, both sides perceive it as exist. angel and the russian society, if you ask anybody in the ruling group, or even very many else citizens, ordinary citizens, they would say that after what happens and after what is happening now. uh, the only goal of the west and ukraine is

a new samantha in western hines. the only goal is to destroy russia as a great state rates power, completely. so in a way that the dresser will never recover. and this is the believe here, on the other side, seeing for united states, this is a very, actually really a month and maybe a correct assessment that the, if you grade will be defeated, or at least if russia will achieve significant goals there. that will be a very serious blow, joe, us, i mean, nation in the world and process brands, which we see already now, that are the gone through start to look around and going to accept to us. so the primacy anymore. this process will be kind of like like, uh, like a levine. so that's what i, what i uh think is the, uh, the situation now,

which means that there is no compromise. one side should when. and this is the situation right now. feel doing that kind of stuff to you that more from the editor in chief of rusher and global affairs and chairman of the presidium of the russian council on foreign and defense policy after this break the, the yeah, it'd be really going to be in the water losers, nuclear lever will the ones that are going to be holding

the situation in front of the vehicle, the india, b, b we will talk in order to be a bulky, sturdy, fundamental us, the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the editor in chief of russia in global affairs, your door, the candle. will the speed of the multi polarity, of course, is a major issue. russia obviously wanted quicker, sooner rather than later. you were talking about what some might see is fusions early. and i even g, a, this is optimism, is russia in russian. they lead to game making the same mistake because the other

one is being re elected. what does he do send to like his troops to kosovo, to reinforce nato in against the population that we've seen? we've seen him presumably making efforts to have sweden back in nature savvy. is that inside the router, which, what ready to send out munition, to the lensky in the, in the bulk from the balkans, lula neutral saudi arabia neutral, avowedly why not all these different powers? okay. they're not supporting the western europe and the united states. the minority of nations is a envoys by population loaded at the un general assembly. but is there a not able to hear about the speed of uh, uh, brakes. uh, hedge a monic power or uh, no, i wouldn't call it and i have it. yeah. and more than that, to use a brick set demonic power. you know, that's, that's the very western view that if one human is being the, uh, the, the,

the post from that position, then another head dream on should come multiple the power then. yeah, but multiple a good a bullet has your money power is not a gym. and so you know that this, this is the question and more than that, it's my personal view. i don't really represent anybody here, but i think that even multiple are a to, in the sense which we saw it before. and that was a to, for the, to put it bluntly. how did we imagine multiple already to say that he has a goal 15 years ago when we expired that something, blanca european constitutes a for school pocahontas, with the powers in 19, essentially not 100 a month, but say 3 or 46 countries. i'm not sure that you had on our level that because of what followed. that was level one and we'll do a 2 exam. exactly, exactly. that's what i say. what the,

what i'm trying to say that we imagined multi polarity because we, we have, we have no other other power or low. so we imagines like this. but what we see now is actually a multi polano at the, in the sounds that he g, my, me or dummy nation is not available anymore. even the united states understand that . and then we have a more and more players, more and more countries which has something to see. some of them are very big, like china, like russia, like india. some of them are uh, less the middle sized countries like sort of key we should mention, like saudi arabia. some of them are very tiny countries, like, uh, for instance, cats are. but old, those countries, they have some influence on what is going on in the world. there's absolutely new situation we, we couldn't imagine say 2025 plus 2 or 3 years ago. that's,

that it comes to the insides of. copped are, would be, uh, should be, uh, should be regarded as a player. and then this is what is coming. and in this, in this big picture, what do you said about survey about therapy, about other countries? that's a new, that's a new normal. it's because every country is trying to survive and every country is trying to pursue its own national interest. and this is normal. rationally, it's trying to do that. but everybody else as well, what we, what we is, what we are leaving. i mean this, the rules based order and so that this is a situation when everybody should do what is, has being prescribed by somebody. now it's solar and this, this is in your situation. now, turkey, it is sending people to cost or tomorrow to get is a help inc. russia to,

to settle some very important issues the day after tomorrow. turkey works with, i don't know whom with the for arms about something that's, that's a normal thing. you know, and this is actually what we saw in the history of international relations for 4 centuries. so the period after the 2nd world war was actually an exemption, not the room as well. graham, she of course, who invented that hedge a monic. god meant the global working class was the instrument. so that's kind of multi polar. but where is the well, your viewing would you cause ironically, is the kind a world pronounced from, from the us state department. but clearly, i think anyone in the world will realize that that was a, that's a, that's a p r stunt that the, the us use. but the point is that why you want this lovely will do it much. there assassinations in moscow in saint petersburg as a drone attack on the kremlin,

blinking, talking about a strategic failure for russia is i don't even know whether russia even understands that they certainly have a 1340 can on the board with finland to guard against at nato, sheffield, and of course, as, as to nature, the other day, i mean, was rush or even guarding the know and stream from attack. that's why the single mainstream media in nature, nations talked about imminent demise of russia. you know, the, the period, the time when uh when, when we leave. now that's an absolute to exceptional moment in history. okay. not exceptional. such moments happen to but not so no, so frequently, so no, it's not each generation leaves through something like this. when the whole world system is drifting to parts and changing, transforming into something completely different in this regard,

changes to they are bigger then changes 30 plus years ago and community as a collapse because uh bipolar system disappeared. but easy to show a framework of international relations div remain at that time and survived on to until recently. now it is collapsing. and if we look through this lance through the, through, through, through this prison, then of course, uh, such kinds of changes cannot be easy, cannot be, uh, quick as cannot be uh, painless. so why, why does the russia sleep prepared for such kind of scale? no to uh, what do we, uh, predict and imagine this kind of uh, uh, collapse. so the previous set up a relationship? no. oh uh, once they told you it was disappointed without things have gone. yes. put 14. is it

pull edition how okay can, how he can say to the whole public that he was disappointed. he is a, he's a leader of the nation. he has no rights to, to be disappoint. that's excellent. so that i, i, it's easier for, for me, i can, i can analyze so slightly more openly. so, and you're not, well, you, you ask and you, you quote, this assessment that the russia isn't in decline. and the mice at the end of the day, again, we started with the saying that we are now at war. i mean, big war, high bridge or whatever, how you call it the proxy war. but this is a big war between the russia and the west. uh, and this war uh, fortunately is not yet is not the direct collision, but we are moving towards that unfortunately,

and easily teasing more. why should we expect is to move a continuation of the things which we go to go to used to. of course it's impossible. so the problem with me, for example, and the my colleagues a year and a half ago when basically when almost all of us failed to predict what was coming was very, very, very simple. we, we underestimate that the scale of changes would stop in the world, not just between the russian, ukraine, will russians, united states. this is, it was process. we underestimate that, that, and that's why it'd be cool. no beginning of a special military operation. cost as by surprise. now we understand this scale, and unfortunately we need to, we need to accept this scale will be extremely traumatic for all of us. yeah, presumably it's not cold war by the rest of the government in special military

operations. because if the russians really wanted to take your grand tomorrow, they'd use that croft and mass casualties, and that would be a war. let's get onto west and your ever then. because if i was telling you, is it blinking, the whole district things are strategic. that even roger is the you from your vantage point and you talk to ceo's, i've seen you and, well, the st. petersburg is coming up. you've spoken to all these sorts of people as far as you can see, usually you bankrupting itself a germany now in recession. we don't know how much poverty we'll kill people in western europe because jeremy is the powerhouse all of the economy in europe let alone how many died because of node stream because of the cold and the higher energy prices in the fluctuate energy prices in your so i'm not qualified to, to assess the economic pool. this is of germany or other european countries. so i thing that uh, actually we hear in the russia overestimated or underestimate that the

resilience of european nickel on them is in the same way as the west underestimate that the reserves are brush nickel and, but what is important that i think it's, it's not my view is the view of mr. burrell, for example, who said the in a speech half a year ago, or so, talking to the, to europe and diplomats, i the representative. so if you going to be in union will wipe, you said very clearly that our, our prosperity, european prosperity was based on 2 sources, cheap russian energy and cheap chinese labor. and that was a very successful model for you, or for the case of the coming back to, to maybe 50 is or 60 simply 6 isn't seventies. now it's solar, you said. and that means that europe will need a completely new economic model. and this economic model will not be based on all

those advantages i've had before. a russian european energy relationship was fantastically good for both sides. unbelievably good. just very, very briefly. what is the st. petersburg the international? because i'll make for them because at globally, i don't think joseph morals is invited this year. what is of to starting from last year? it is more in, lord low kink is more re entered on towards domestic development despite this fact uh, there are some, uh, relatively many for and guess a mostly from so called friendly countries in europe known us. but of course, for russia, as for the you, for your opinions that's time to talk to, olivia says they cannot make model and model of economic development. and i know that either you or your moderating some of the important discussions they have here

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