to adapt existing technologies they acquire from abroad, but also to develop their own technology. this is why you, ronnie and ballistic missiles today, have you extraordinarily accurate the warheads? and the other thing is that because the united states and its allies is real quick cetera, have subject to the ron to near continuous conflict. over the past several decades, iran has a perpetual laboratory of conflict of war upon which to test out operational concepts, including drone technology. and so what we've seen is the extraordinary theoretical capabilities that we run. you're joining up with the practical opportunities that he runs. situation affords and iran has been able to develop, you know, cost effective systems that accomplish the mission. the mission is an active one

against enemies such as is room united states that, that have tremendous counter drum capability. so the ronnie and jerome you know, dr. in combined with the iranian drone technology is a very effective one, especially when applied against the western target. has a new russia ukraine conflict brought about a revolution in terms of the way drones are used on the battlefield. if you're a military professional in the world today, and you are not studying how both ukraine and russia have used drones, then you're wrong. um, you know, we live in a day and age where drones are now going to become part of the concept of maneuver . you will no longer just talked about your air power, your fire support your maneuver elements. drones have become a uh, a technology that you know is involved in all 3. it provides long range recognizance. it provides target designation keep abilities it provides weapons

delivery platforms. it becomes a web in itself. it can be used for electronic warfare for jamming. and if you're not incorporating every aspect of drones into the total spectrum of warfare being waged and the enemy will have the advantage because i can guarantee this, they're looking at it. they're adapting to it. there won't be a modern army down the road. it isn't incorporating drone technology in a meaningful way into their overall concept of operations. and they will be looking at the rushing you training and conflict as the case study upon which they draw the lessons that they're being used to, to build their, their own capabilities. and how much more advanced control and technology get. well, most warfare conducted in the future be on man as well. what's interesting, we say unmanned vehicles, the key aspect of that is that we're not putting a pilot at risk, but we are

a that's the nature of drum warfare. one of the most dangerous jobs on the battlefield today is to be a driven operator because you, in order to operate that drone, you have to have connectivity to that jerome. that connectivity will at some point in time involving ariel link that can be detected and traced back in, targeted by the enemy. and so much of the advantages that are had by not putting a pilot in the plane directly into planes. so therefore you can take the drone into areas that you wouldn't risk a pilot. the pilot is still on the ground and the power is very much at risk, especially in the tac toe standpoint, where you have people near the ford edge of the battle area to who can be struck by artillery you know, but then the, the other thing is if you have a signal, the signal could be intercepted signal could be jammed. um, one only has to take a look at the, the american drawer that was called the beast of condo, har, i think it was the r q 179. 1 says, i don't have the number exactly,

but it was a self drone. iranians watched to take off and land from the american military installation and conduct our afghanistan, intercepting the, the satellite link because it was used to control the aircraft. and when the ground control that kind of hard passed it off to the, to the operational controller, who was based out of nevada. and you're the ronnie is detected that hand over figure it out intercepted. and when the drone of you did some covert recognizance over western, you're on the earth, eastern, you're on the iranians intercepted it to control the drone and landed it and got their own technology. i bring this up to point out, that is good as drone technology is, there's a counter, the enemies developing counters right now. the people who have the soldiers on the ground have drunk guns that are used to jam the signals disrupt this. it goes, take control the drones, capture the drones. so i think we need to be careful about saying that drones are

going to become, you know, that, that, that's the future of words like any weapon. if you know you, you have the weapon, you learn to use the weapon, you incorporate the weapon, but like every other weapon, it has a counter. there are pluses and minuses and using this weapon. and i think the drones will have a, a major see or the battle for, but nothing in the end changes the reality that you have to have a boot on the ground in order to claim the ground. a drone cannot capture territory of infantry captures, territory armor captures territory, but a drone doesn't capture territory. are there more or less casualties? and these drone proxy wars then in traditional warfare depends how you use the drugs. um, i mean, if you're, if you're a, if you're, if you're carrying out targeted assassination using a, a, a drone. i mean, what do you compare it to because it's a different kind of war. uh, it's not like uh, you know, the time size, the saltado heavily fortified complex. so there's going to be significant

casualties in that. you're going to suffer dozens, if not, you know, hundreds of casualties trying to take down to something of that nature. um, you know, targeted assassination by drone is only about killing one person, maybe a couple, but you're not, it's not large scale warfare. however, if in support of that battalion, the salt on a $45.00 position, you have a drone overhead that is designated targets for artillery fire and they're helping increase the accuracy. and therefore, the authority of artillery fire then um, you know, your use, you've done it. the drone is a tool and it depends how you use the tool and into what effect when it, you know, when you, when you're dealing with, with this uh, you know, the idea of, of the salary. so let me, let me just say that the modern battlefield is extraordinarily lee for a general can void the american commander of forces in europe. the supreme allied commander for nato in europe recently set in

a defense form and suite that the level of violence that's taking place in your trade was unimaginable by nato unimaginable by nato. that means that you know this, this military alliance and substantively preparing for large scale ground combat. europe had no clue what the reality of large they'll grow large scale ground combat you're looked like. and as a result of the, the can't wrap their heads around. the fact that you lose tens of thousands of men deal with in a very short period of time. so, you know, the reality of the motor battlefield is extraordinary, least. so i think drones make it even more leaf a thank you so much. god loves please stick around. scott ritter will be joining us right here after the break. and when we come back, nations have found a way to fight modern wars crafting cheaper, but more reliable drones will have more after the break. the

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welcome back to the cost of everything while the us dominates and refuses to export high end product or family of drones. other nations have found ways around the tv to which is a turkish aid. erica, from the bay car corporation, was a cheap, widely available drone that changed how smaller nations fight modern wars. bay car turn to technology is readily available on the commercial market to make the tv to from a mix of domestically made parts source from international commercial markets. there is a g p s, receiver made by trimble, a modem from bias, set of garments,

navigation, radio, etc. now while the us reaper drone costs $28000000.00, the tv to only cost about $5000000.00. and the tv too has shown up in complex in as or by john libya. if the up. yeah. and now ukraine. this is the 1st mass produced strong system that medium and smaller states can get a hold of and it is capable of coordinating long range attacks or releasing laser guided bombs on targets. the same d g. i'm not a quad copiers of videographers, and youtube is used for filming. have also now been deployed in conflicts and ukraine. the other d g. i drones have been spotted and serious since 2013. and they have been modified to drop grenades and bombs. and finally have the or rainy and maybe she had $136.00 trunk which are self detonating drones. that only cost around $20000.00 because

they're so cheap, intercepting them with a more expensive missile in cars, a cost to the defender. and these commie cause a drones had been used by russia and are difficult to shoot down when sent in large numbers. in response, u. s. has been sending the switch load con because they drowned tia crane to use and attacks. the drones have been used in afghanistan and iraq and are small enough to fit in a backpack and our launch from the to is wise the target area and usually is camera . the soldier can easily detect a lock on the target. while they're light in portable. they aren't exactly powerful basically the equivalent of a handful of 40 millimeter grenades that you can throw 10 miles away con, because they drones are becoming more popular and modern warfare replacing missiles and multiple missions. they're also used more than normal military drones firing one switch blade would cost around $4000.00 while firing one javelin anti tank

missile would cost around $78000.00. because these drones are so cheap, they're disposable. which means that the switch ways can carry a warhead and drop it, and not have to worry about making back a return flight. comparing this to the tv to or the re for drawing which costs over $30000000.00 losing a switchblade. it's not a big deal. and for more let's bring in again, scott rid, our former united states marine corps intelligence officer and officer to now scott or harry, a lot about hypersonic missiles being used by russia and that china has develop hypersonic technology as well. so what exactly is a hypersonic missile and how does it differ from the intercontinental ballistic missile, for example, or regular cruise missile? the key aspect to the hypersonic missile of survive ability um by traveling at the speeds that they do, they confound an enemy's ability to detect

a track and then put a weapon system on them to shoot them down. you know, so basically the russian hypersonic missiles that are being used in uh, in ukraine cannot be shut down. that means that a fresher fires one is going to hit its target. and this is a disconcerting for any potential enemy, how much especially disconcerting for the ukrainians who have to know that every time one of these kids or missiles has fired a targeted saving that is going to go up in smoke. the chinese have developed similar technology and it's a, has the ability to overwhelm us. air defense is both to enter in terms of on ships and on the ground in this means that the china wants to sink a us aircraft carrier, it's going to sink the us aircraft carrier who wants to hit an american air base. it's going to hit that air base and there's no defense system for it. so that's,

that's the advantages for that. it's a double edged sword though, because of the united states is busy, tried to develop its own hypersonic, a weapons, and we've had some success on some systems with wrench. insert version of the kids or air delivered system has not been working. we just did a test recently and it failed. so it's difficult technology and sometimes the united states seeks to squeeze too much to push too much into. ringback a given design, and when the, at the end of the day, the less is better, i mean, the russian design is very simple, very elegant, very effective, and it's being employed. the united states seeks to put too many bells and whistles on its toys. and they don't work, but type, you know, hypersonic a capability, especially when you add maneuvering that the and so coming at high speed, but now it's maneuvering. so there's no predictability and it's track makes it impossible for the air defenses, at least at this point in time. to,

to attract him to target them and to shoot them down. well, hypersonic missiles become like this type of suicide drone technology we're seeing on the battlefield in the sense that they will become cheap for even poor nations to develop and use the think about most weapon systems is a pretty expensive when they 1st come out. but eventually, you know, once use especially you start mass producing them, you can get the cost down and as we become more experienced in this technology, you know, things that are cutting edge just become 2nd nature. and yes, at some point in time, this technology will make it down to nations and otherwise could not afford this technology. right now, it's a cutting it to cutting edge technology that i think those nations possess and it what to retain the advantage of the cruise by having that weapon system, especially if your opponent doesn't have it. but at some point in time is this world starts to, you know, break up into various ideologically based factions,

the us versus them mentality. we'll see that there might be, there might be pressure to push the hypersonic technology down to proxy forces to use because of the risk. that's a crude when, for instance, the united states and russia fight directly, we don't want that. so we can't have a situation where us hypersonic, the russian hyper sonics are being fired each other from, from, from, from the other side. but if russia is able to push hypersonic technology down to a proxy, and that technology is used against the united states with united states does the same and uses the technology against russia. you know that, that makes the consequences of this less. so i do think in the future that there will be a trend towards getting at least some aspects of hypersonic technology down to proxy forces that can then use that against principles. like i said,

either russian proxy against america, or an american proxy against russia, will arise and cheaper technologies to level the playing field when it comes to the us military dominance. we see in the 20th century, after world war 2 and even the earlier part of the 21st century wars extraordinarily complex business. but at the end of the day it's about killing people straight up. and so the question of whether or not the playing field is level it depends on answering to questions. what is your capacity to kill people? what's your capacity to absorb casual this? it doesn't matter what the about the specific technology on the bottom line is. if you can kill more people than they're willing to accept on the hill at the end of the day you, when, if they kill more of your people than you're willing to accept, they went and drone technology be part of the killing factor. but uh no there's, there's just no way of a smaller nation at the end of the day will be able to be on

a level playing field. even if you ron in the united states went to war while you run has certain, you know, things that, that enhanced their immediacy of their defense. and the fact is that the united states was to mobilize its total capability, non nuclear. we would be the wrong because it becomes, it's a war of attrition. all work comes down to attrition. so you know, the question is, what is the political cost? can you run, make the political cost of war such that the united states would never seek to fully mobilize because there would be detrimental political price to pay at home? and i think that's, that's what we're looking at. but it's the end of the day the, the bigger nations can always have the advantage. thank you so much, scott. read or for joining us today. unfortunately, military conflicts spring about the extremes and winners and losers. countries are faced with heavy casualties on both sides destruction of land,

city and infrastructures, and losing all the progress that was made. now for decades high and precision strike american aircraft some dominated warfare. however, the conflict and ukraine has changed everything, showing that low bunch of models made in china a ron or turkey are just as devastating their widespread usage has changed, how drone combat is waged and who can wage it. and while the tactical advantages are clear, what is also sadly clear is that these weapons will take and increasingly for both whole on civilian populations around the world. i'm christy, i. thanks for watching. i will see you right back here next time on the cost of everything the the

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which are all presented at the various bands of attendees. archie spoke exclusively to russia's foreign ministry spokeswoman on moscow's cooperation with african nations. it was a big contingent of the 4 and this year are from africa. and when we have african guess on the program, over talking about russia, they educate me the, the, the, they know so much about soviet african relations and ties. their memory goes back a long time in terms of, of russia, africa. because the circle of ralph has gone their number of times this year already. what's the main goal? and all of must go on the confidence and where, where does that lead going forward? and this is a very simple question because the answer to it is very short. they'll authoration, i'm not partnership. that is our main goal. that is the goal of our country facing

and partnering with africa because i need you to climb in partnership to non financing water rates on the investment, part of the, of the source of the natural resources in developing natural resources and exchange and experience that you're quite unclear is working on international instructional performance. torres is a national educate sending because we have a long history of it. jason project passed through this and what cooperation in the information has to be on your end or any other rebecca sputtering thing is also don't forget i'm still that. he said to let you know m street. we can find out are going to lives in the whole time, whole world, because all these, you know, organizations, all these organizations outside. and they told me that this multi word is pull or world news happening right now in cities and the other san charges are also

becoming important, not just because the graphic is always pulled, but it could be some virtual is a concept that unites content in one way or another, the around $17000.00 attendees are expected at russia's biggest economic event, including leading economists, company heads of state ministers, finance years and scientists are out of a $130.00 countries from around the globe are participating, including those from the asia pacific africa and latin america, some highlights, included the u. a delegation, which is the guest of honor at this years for russia's deputy prime minister, also gave a speech with the head of the error of delegation, stating that the parties have discussed bilateral economic development and trade. are states are bound by good ties, a rich history of cooperation, based on the principles of mutual trust. we will continue to adhere to these

principles despite the global risks and the revision of the entire system of international relations. today we are witnessing the restructuring of all logistics and international payment systems between countries. we will create optimal solutions. over the past few years, the u. a has become our strongest trading partner in the middle east and north africa. last year, our trade turnover amounts to to 9000000000 and continues to grow. i'm sure that we will continue to interact with the u. a, in a wide range of areas that will ensure stability and confidence in our further joint development, including trade, industrial, and cultural relations, and additional inputs. this will be the beginning of an active negotiation process on the inclusion of a free trade agreement between the u. a e and the 5 member states of the ration economic union. russia's newest regions are all set well represented at the forum

was stands dedicated, everything from price local produce to green energy. there's all costs. as many western companies left the russian market after the conflict, a new crank started last year. russia's foreign ministry spokesman also highlighted the west manipulation of the men's agreement of the on the issue of perhaps a disconnect between the people and their leaders. can we turn to germany on the issue of ukraine? because therapy, many reports that say the chancellor will up shows is willing to maintain contact with the russian leader. and i shall said he was going to talk to him or put in by phone again soon. but i put it to you, does it make sense to maintain the dialogue with the german chancellor when german leopards are fighting are being used in the conflict against russian troops. but when you might say how spin is there is none. yeah. about the revelation is

that mirth when made on a well, that's what these her testimony a few months ago, she said that the, even when they signed the misc agreements, they didn't like these agreements to be followed by 40 minutes to live real fast. when you said on numerous occasions and even published an article, so this menu place in the west and regina say one thing and we'll do something completely different. all of this menu, police and all kinds of this. um, oxide. yeah. oh, those are these lives that we get from them. everything was applied right in this situation surrounding you pray and now the world and saying good bye. sort of the times prime minister berlusconi. you mean italy and make your 2 i've yeah, of course, and it's up to is why or you're not somebody to create it. oh,

my financial empire. and it's built his own political party. and remember with the united day, and i try to set these all the way here, how much is the into it use? it's not that use it for a full not the size. it generally is split the american ally inmates so, but they put so much energy, so much effort into trying to remove him. but the problems of the a why? because he was developing relation the new side and they told us the and with rush hour, you want to bundle with relations in the ties with russia. he said that getting the jeep energy from russia actually would benefit to europe, where you wanted to move the united uh on the map. and that's why you experience a so many problems. and i, that's why he got in trouble with the united states probably. but it was, and he were the uh, initially what i usually united states was behind my so his hours to get everybody

understand that they can call into the same tribe of people. that's why because they don't want to take any active actions. we don't want it, they don't want to do, so i'm not saying there's 70 so that they are protected personally on final question, just on what you're seeing there in the united states next to your presidential election. is there someone or some party i'm not running is most school. would they prefer in terms of normalize 18 relations? normalizing relations is, is there a hopeful like come from all school next during the yeah, that's a new will to put that 500 guys working by the square. and then what is that? because the normalizing relations you theory was up on anyone and that's why the

western cam, but it's something that we can then a bit of some of start considering it to uh, once the last at least i use dobs to store their arms delivering to you free watch yeah, stars that i use to is that still why can petri is so if, if these is bobby, how does it then maybe we can start talking about, since i'm not sure really a shuttle while they're killing us and why they are supplying you, paid with arms to and will kill as many russians. nobody's going to think about resuming normal relations and is really soldier who was involved in the killing of a 3 year old palestinian boy has received a reprimand for byron, his weapon into the air, and direct violation of orders or recent statement from the israeli defense forces passes judgment on the soldiers actions while he was allegedly trying to stop.