operational concepts, including drone technology and so what we've seen is the extraordinary theoretical capabilities that we run you're joining up with the practical opportunities that he runs, situation affords and iran has been able to develop, you know, cost effective systems that accomplish the mission. the mission is an active warrant against enemies, such as is room united states that, that have tremendous, you know, counter drone capability. so the ron in drone, you know, doctrine combined with the iranian drone technology is a very effective one, especially when applied against the western target. has a new rational ukraine conflict brought about a revolution in terms of the way drones are used on the battlefield. if you're a military professional in the world today, and you are not studying how both ukraine and russia have used drones,

then you're wrong. you know, we live in a day and age where drones are now going to become part of the concept of maneuver . you will no longer just talk about your air power, your fire support your maneuver elements. drones have become a technology that you know is involved in all 3. it provides a long range recognizance. it provides target designation capabilities. it provides weapons delivery platforms. it becomes a weapon itself. it can be used for electronic warfare for jamming. and if you're not incorporating every aspect of drones into the total spectrum of warfare being waged and the enemy will have an advantage, because i can guarantee this, they're looking at it. they're adapting to it. there won't be a modern army down the road. it isn't incorporating drone technology in a meaningful way and to their overall concept of operations. and they will be

looking at the russian ukraine conflict as the case study upon which they draw the lessons that they're being used to, to build their, their own capabilities. and how much more advanced control and technology get. well, most warfare conducted in the future be and as well, what's interesting we say unmanned vehicles. the key aspect of that is that we're not putting a pilot at risk, but we are a that's the nature of jerome warfare. one of the most dangerous jobs on the battlefield today is to be a german operator because you, in order to operate that drone, you have to have connectivity to that jerome. that connectivity will at some point in time involving ariel link that can be detected and traced back in, targeted by the enemy. and so much of the advantages that are had by not putting a pilot in the plane directly into planes. so therefore you can take the drone into areas that you wouldn't risk a pilot. the pilot is still on the ground and the power is very much at risk,

especially in the tac toe standpoint, where you have people near the ford edge of the battle area to who can be struck by artillery you know, but then the, the other thing is if you have a signal, the signal could be intercept a signal to be jammed. um, one only has to take a look at the, the american drawer that was called the beast of condo, har, i think it was the r q 179. 1 says, i don't have the number exactly, but it was a still thrown iranians watch to take off and land from the american military installation in condo or afghanistan and intercepting the, the satellite link because it was used to control aircraft. and when the ground control that kind of hard passed it off to the, to the operational controller, who was based out of nevada. and you're the ronnie is detected that hand over figure it out intercepted. and when the drone of you did some covert recognizance

over western, you're on the earth eastern, you're on the iranians intercepted it to control the drone and landed it and got their own technology. i bring this up to point out, that is good as drone technology is, there's a counter, the enemies developing counters right now. the people who are the soldiers on the ground. i have drunk guns that are used to jam the signals to drop the signals. take control the drones capture the drones. so i think we need to be careful about saying that drones are going to become, you know, that, that, that's the future of words like any weapon. um, you know, you, you have the weapon, you learn to use the weapon, you incorporate the weapon, but like every other weapon, it has a counter. there are pluses and minuses and using this weapon. and i think the drones will have a, a major c on the battlefield, but nothing in the change is the reality that you have to have a boot on the ground in order to claim the ground. a drone cannot capture territory of infantry captures. territory armor captures territory, but a drone doesn't capture territory. are there more or less casualties?

and these drone proxy wars than in traditional warfare depends how you use the drugs. um, i mean, if you're, if you're a, if you're, if you're carrying out targeted assassination using a, a, a drug. i mean, what are you comparing the 2 because it's a different kind of war. it's not like, you know, the time size. the saltado heavily fortified complex, so there's going to be significant casualties and that you're going to suffer dozens, if not. um, you know, hundreds of casualties tried to take down to something of that nature. um, you know, targeted assassination by drone is only about killing one person, maybe a couple, but you're not, it's not large scale warfare. however, if in support of that battalion, the salt on a $4.00 to $5.00 position, you have a drone overhead that is designating targets for artillery fire and they're helping increase the accuracy and therefore the authority of artillery fire. then um,

you know, you're, you've, you've done it, the drum is a tool, it depends how you use the tool and into what effect when it, you know, when you, when you're dealing with, with this, uh, you know, the idea of the salary. so let me, let me just say that the modern battlefield was extraordinarily lethal. a general can void the american commander of forces in europe. the supreme allied commander for nato in europe. recently set in a defense form and sweep that the level of violence that's taking place in your trade was unimaginable by nato unimaginable by nato. that means that you know this, this military alliance and substantively preparing for large scale ground combat. europe had no clue what the reality of large they'll grow large kilogram combat your look like. and as a result of the, the can't wrap their heads around the fact that you lose tens of thousands of men deal with in a very short period of time. so you know,

the reality of the motor battlefield is extraordinary relief. so i think drones make it even more leaf. thank you so much sky, but please stick around to scott ritter will be joining us right here after the break. and when we come back, nations have found a way to fight modern wars crafting cheaper, but more reliable drones will have more after the break. the look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. we're such orders at conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. we should be very careful about our personal intelligence. the point obviously, is to makes a trust rather than to the various jobs with

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welcome back to the cost of everything. while the us dominates and refuses to export high and predator a family of draw, those other nations have found ways around the tv to which is a turkish made erica, from the bay car corporation, with a cheap widely available drone that changed how smaller nations fight modern wars, a car turn to technology is readily available on the commercial market to make the tv to, from a mix of domestically made parts source from international commercial markets. there is a g p s, receiver made by trimble, a modem from bias that a garmin navigation radio, etc. now while the us reaper drone costs $28000000.00, the tv to only cost about $5000000.00. and the tv too, has shown up in conflicts in azerbaijan, nivia, ethiopia,

and now ukraine. this is the 1st mass produced strong system that medium in smaller states can get a hold of. and it is capable of coordinating long range attacks or releasing laser guided bombs on target. the same d g. i'm not a quad copiers of videographers, and youtube is used for filming. have also now been deployed in conflicts and ukraine. other d g, i drones have been spotted and serious since 2013 and they have been modified to drop grenades and bombs. and finally, you have the or rainy and maybe she had $136.00 trunk which are cells that needing drones, that only cost around $20000.00 because they're so cheap, intercepting them with a more expensive missile in cars, a cost to the defender. and these commie cause a drones has been used by russia and are difficult to shoot down when sent in large numbers. that in response us has been sending the switch lead time because they drowned

t a crane to use and attacks. the drones have been used in afghanistan and iraq and are small enough to fit in a backpack and our launch from the tube is wise. the target area and usually is camera. the soldier can easily detect a lock on the target. while they're light in portable. they aren't exactly powerful basically the equivalent of a handful of 40 millimeter grenades that you can throw 10 miles away con, because they drones are becoming more popular and modern warfare replacing missiles and multiple missions. they're also used more than normal military drones firing one switch blade would cost around $4000.00 while firing one javelin anti tank missile would cost around $78000.00. because these drones are so cheap, they're disposable. which means that the switch ways can carry a warhead and drop it and not have to worry about making back a return flight. comparing this to the tv to or the reaper drone,

which costs over $30000000.00 losing a switchblade. it's not a big deal. and for more, let's bring in again, scott ritter, former united states, marine corps intelligence officer and officer. now scott or harry, a lot about hypersonic missiles being used by russia and that china has develop hypersonic technology as well. so what exactly is a hypersonic missile and how does it differ from the intercontinental ballistic missile, for example, or regular cruise missile? the key aspect to the hypersonic missile of survive ability by traveling at the speeds that they do, they confound, and the enemies ability to detect a track and then put a weapon system on them to shoot them down. um, you know, so basically the russian hypersonic missiles that are being used in the, in ukraine cannot be shut down. that means that a fresher fires one is going to hit its target. and this is

a disconcerting for any potential enemy. how much especially disconcerting for the ukrainians who have to know that every time one of these kids are missiles has fired the targeted saving that is going to go up in smoke. the chinese have developed similar technology and it's a has the ability to overwhelm us. air defense is both to enter in terms of on ships and on the ground in this means that the china wants to sink and us aircraft, carrier is going to sink the us aircraft carrier. if it wants to hit an american air base, it's going to hit that air base and there's no defense system for it. so that's, that's the advantages for that. it's a double edged sword though, because of the united states is busy, tried to develop its own hypersonic, a weapons, and we've had some success on some systems with wrench insert version of the kids or air delivered. a system has not been working. we just did

a test recently and it failed. so it's difficult technology and sometimes the united states seeks to squeeze too much of a push too much into a given design in the when the, at the end of the day, the less is better. i mean, the russian design is very simple, very elegant, very effective, and it's being unemployed. the united states seeks to put too many bells and whistles on its toys, and they don't work but tight. you know, hypersonic a capability, especially when you add maneuvering that the and so coming at high speed, but now it's maneuvering. so there's no predictability and it's track, makes it impossible for the air defenses, at least at this point in time, to, to attract him to target them and to shoot them down. well, hypersonic missiles become like this type of suicide drone technology we're seeing on the battlefield in the sense that they will become cheap for even poor nations to develop and use the most weapon systems is

a pretty expensive when they 1st come out. but eventually, you know, once use especially we start mass producing them, you can get the cost down and as we become more experienced in this technology, you know, things that are cutting edge just become 2nd nature. and yes, at some point in time, this technology will make it down to nations that otherwise could not afford this technology. right now, it's a cutting it to cutting edge technology that i think those nations possess and it what to retain the advantage of the cruise by having that weapon system, especially if your opponent doesn't have it. but at some point time is this world starts to, you know, break up into various ideologically based factions, the us versus them mentality. we'll see that there might be, there might be pressure to push the hypersonic technology down to proxy forces to use because of the risk that's a, a crude when, for instance,

the united states and russia fight directly, we don't want that. so we can't have a situation where us hypersonic and russian hypersonic are being fired each other from, from, from, from the other side. but if russia is able to push hypersonic technology down to a proxy, and that technology is used against united states with the united states does the same and uses the technology against russia. you know, that, that makes the consequences of this less. so i, i do think in the future that there will be a trend towards getting at least some aspects of hypersonic technology down to proxy forces that can then use that against principles. like i said, either russian proxy against america, or an american proxy against russia, will arise and cheaper technologies level the playing field when it comes to the u . s. military dominance. we seen the 20th century after world war 2. and even the earlier parts of the 21st century wars extraordinarily complex business. but at the

end of the day, it's about killing people straight up. and so the question of whether or not to the playing field is level it depends on answering to questions. what is your capacity to kill people? what's your capacity to absorb casual? this? it doesn't matter what the about the specific technology on the bottom line is. if you can kill more people than they're willing to accept on the hill at the end of the day you went. if they killed more of your people than you're willing to accept, they went and drone technology be part of the killing factor. but um, no there's, there's just no way of a smaller nation at the end of the day will be able to be on a level playing field. even if you ron and the united states went. the more while we run has certain, you know, things that, that enhance their immediacy of their defense. and the fact is that the united states was to mobilize, its total capability, non nuclear. we would be the ron because it becomes its war of attrition. all work

comes down to attrition. so you know, the question is, what is the little cost? can you run, make the political cost of war such that the united states would never seek to fully mobilize because there would be detrimental political price to pay at home. and i think that's, that's what we're looking at. but at the end of the day, the, the bigger nations can always have the advantage. thank you so much, scott ritter for joining us today. unfortunately, military conflicts spring about the extremes, and winners and losers. countries are faced with heavy casualties on both sides destruction of land, city and infrastructures, and losing all the progress that was made. now for decades, high end precision strike american aircraft, some dominated warfare. however, the conflict and ukraine has changed everything, showing that low bunch of models made in china a ron or turkey are just as devastating their widespread usage has changed,

how drone combat is waged and who can wage it. and while the tactical advantages are clear, what is also sadly clear is that these weapons will take and increasingly horrible toll on civilian populations around the world. i'm christy, i. thanks for watching. i will see you right back here next time on the cost of everything the can there ever be a lasting peace and ukraine and europe as long as keeps backers only want continued conflict? the west has the wrong priorities, is looking to inflict a strategic defeat on russia. instead, peace will return when security is guaranteed for all the

the, the system with breaking news rational for a case of examples you a nuclear power plant, say ukraine has show that teen returning from inspections at the sides. low tunnel single. please do not forget the we are beginning to live in the air of most people in our seats. but the shanghai corporation organization and briggs of visit examples of proof that most people are keeps coming on. he speaks with russians for ministry spokeswoman regarding the new weld, older data on the rise ation on the conflicting use train during the 2nd day of his in petersburg, international economics for the on the european cobalt online. in facility in the democratic republic of the congo. we supposed to

suspend operations with the local governments accusing it of causing significance. environmental damage also speaks with some of the need to try to do that. happen to us. we haven't received any come from the section today. i'm homeless foss mining must help the population by improving environmental conditions the population doesn't know how to protect themselves from the river that flows through the whole city. the may very well welcome. this is all the international with the very latest wealth. nissan. thank is good to happy with us. we start with breaking news, rational authorities of bizarre for those you a nuclear power plant, say you friday, and soldiers open fire on the international atomic energy agency emission led by rafael grosse. while the team was returning to ukraine control territory, a basel broke out between boston on 220 and forces and the casualties have been

reported. the emission inspect to the site for potentially damage following the ongoing hostilities and selling, as well as the collapse of the nevada whole for them. the reservoir provides the was a close the nuclear power plants. we access inspectors said there was no risk at this stage. all tease ramon costs or if a company emission during this visit incentives, this report must know if i need a pass or 2 days delay ref ill. go see the general director of the i a as finally arrived here at the supper road. shit, nuclear power plants here, he will inspect the consequences of the flooding. i'll make a whole exam and of course, evaluate how it's fixed as a for or your nuclear power plants. and we are not here talking about a treaty or a convention or a legal agreement. or do we have is say 5 basic principles. don't attack the plant

. so that back from the plant and to make the plant and military bases don't it because the extend the power supply, etc, etc. so these things are things that must be done or sometimes, let's much of hasn't showed at the power station, not from the station, nor has anyone turned the station into a military base. we've already been complying with such principles without any prior agreement and without any direction from the un. these a basic principles from which there can be no deviation. it is impossible to argue with the idea of the voice by mister grosse. so the cleaning of representatives have remained silent again. we hear the same old song about me with the rise in the station. however, they refuse to understand that we are the pots are responsible for the sick. you were to add the facility, and we are obliged to defend themselves against the cost of the attacks from ukraine. the exactly as many russian forces as our need is to protect the nuclear

power plant, along with the rough l grossey, another team alpha i a, a monitors have arrived here at discovery ocean nuclear power plants, or they will spend some time here as well. and a role to age of with the team has been here for 3 months already. rough l draw see had arrived here under the u. n. flag. and of course he was escorted by the church and fighters of russia by the box one uh battalion. and so that made sure that he was safe and sound while traveling here to a supper or your nuclear power plant, where your 6th street really extremely difficult. the lining of the nation was not gaining the necessary agreements. we're down here until a few hours. i go, i was not sure whether i was gonna be able to, to come here and visit, but honestly, this is the cutoff reserve, or as you can see,

the water level has dropped significantly. hands of this was the main concern for the safety, oldest upper ocean nuclear power plant. however, this reserve, or behind me, the water level level here, is absolutely fine if that's a normal level. and this is the actual cooling pond that supplies water for the for this up or, or is you nuclear power plants. so i was able to see the quoting phones. i was able to see the contention. and the retention dates, root canals and the list. we check posted to the system which is indispensable for the according function. so we can see, i would say there are 2 elements. basically, on the one hand, we can see that the visitation is serious because the quizzes are there and they are real at the same time that i'm majors that have been taken

to stabilize the situation. now this facility is another part of this f r origin. nuclear power plant, but it's a little bit away from the plan itself. now this is a pumping station for a cooling on. so that is used for the spends a few of the nuclear power station. as you can see, it is also constantly under setting by the current in military. see it's full of shrapnel holes. nevertheless, it is still in operation and according to officials, the latest attack did not affect the work of this pumping station. now this is just the, one of the flights inside of this sprinkling basing. here this opera is unique to their power plant that was damaged by the american maids. and triple 7. uh, hold it sir. now russell draw. so you just inspected uh,

this pipe. and he was assured that at the moment, uh uh, all of the equipment that was damaged inside of these a sprinkling basins were changed. and now there's absolutely no threat to the functioning of this particular basin. behind me are the 6 energy blocks of this up are always you nuclear power plant. however, the plant itself and the moment is not fully operational due to constant bombardment of the ukrainian nationalist. according to real southam, the officials these upper origin nuclear power plants is now functioning at sets wency, so 30 percent capacity. moreover, the employees of this plans are under constant psychological pressure from the ukranian authorities. also, as i've heard from the real side, some officials, the art cyber threats constantly here as upper ocean nuclear power plants, apart from this cost and draw on

a tax and artillery shipping take place all the time. so there's always a threat of a nuclear disaster, vermont cost for a marty supper origin, nuclear power plant. it's a $26.00, the annual sum. petersburg into a national economic form has wrapped up in the 2nd day in boxes, northern capital and whatnot. so you were bringing to your special coverage of russia's biggest economic event throughout the week. the, the tv's email, this is forum is full warranty. that includes tech, culture and national traditions, which will presents that the various stands of attendees. also spoke exclusively to buses for a ministry spokeswoman on most goes cooperation with african nations. it was a big contingent of the 4 and this year are from africa. and when we have african guests on the program, over talking about russia, they educate me the, the, the,

they know so much about soviet african relations and ties. their memory goes back a long time in terms of, of russia, africa. because sergio of ross has gone there a number of times this year already. what's the main goal and all of must go on the confidence and where, where does that lead going forward at the ocean. but i suppose i'll put all of us for that. this is a very simple question that for the answer is simple as well. what corporation. this is all countries, main task cooperation with the african continent, economic, financial and investments, exploration of natural resources, and exchange of knowledge in the space of security, counter terrorism, interaction on international platforms, humanitarian ties, tourism education and information. essentially what we're simply developing

cooperation with the african continent where there is mutual benefit. why? because we have historical ties and there's potential where interesting to each other. and the most important thing that guarantees the effectiveness of all corporation is a common view on how corporation should be implemented without colonialism, colonial logic, and among other things, please do not forget the we're beginning to live in the area of most people are see both the shanghai corporation, organization, and briggs of david examples of proof, the multi polarities coming. these polls are very interesting and attractive for countries. the poll is not a geographical concept, but of such a one. the unites countries that will seem to be many of these polls. they're being developed to overcome terrorism, financial and economics challenges and nothing is around 70.