precision, these holes are very interesting and attractive for countries. the pole is not only a geographical concept, but a virtual one that unites countries swimming through this. there will soon be many of these polls. and all this is done with the practical benefits. they give countries a positive result. this is designed to overcome terrorism, financial, and economic challenges law and if any of the non so if it continues to be, who is it? well, let me know that little boy, just a small note on the loss or aspect of both of the financial side. far no way. one of the, the, the questions we, we gets on the program is one about a new currency. in breaks is about something substantive and being reach towards right now. i think this as you say, you could egypt another 100000000 people are very influential in north africa. we of course have got big swedes of asia with china, brazil in the knees. yes. saw south africa, how close are we seeing perhaps,

a bricks, permanency? it's a tomorrow to not, but i bought the taps. this topic is being actively dissected and discussed. you've probably already heard several world leaders and what they have to say about it. but i'd like to explain why the specific subject has even come up. emails like the world already had certain sense of world currencies allowed different countries and different regions to trade. so, payment systems were built for these exact currencies. unfortunately, now a problem has arisen where the united states through its policies, has simply undermined confidence in the dollar as one of the world's currencies. this happens because washington began to use the dollar as an instrument to wage hybrid wars. and what else could you see? what they're doing with all the frozen accounts, if we consider all dollar transactions go through the us treasury,

it's clear that they have the ability to use related information for intelligence purposes or for blackmail. so to speak, to broker backdoor deals. by doing this, they've been undermining confidence and the dollar for many years. and now the us national debt has reached $32.00 trillion dollars. it's clear to everyone, this is the one that the united states will never be able to pay off this debt. when a state cannot pay its debts and its level of domestic production is less than it's federal that, that countries bankrupt, meaning it's currency is not backed by anything but its own debt obligations. the dollar can no longer with stand the burden of being a world currency and being a financial guarantor. this is where we start talking about other countries attempts to switch to their national currencies, both to avoid the, unless surveillance by the us, which puts their transactions at risk. and to have a chance in forming regional associations like rex to develop its own currency.

this issue is currently being actively studied and discuss besides, these are all the prerequisites that have led to this new interest and national currencies. it doesn't stem from some desire to destroy global economic ties. of course, now, this is a problem that was created exclusively by the us administration through undermining the world's communities, confidence in the dollar as the world's view from your currency, the little government, our values. one of the big contingents of the 4 and this year are from africa. and when we have off for can guess on the program over talking about russia, they educate me. they know so much about soviet african relations and ties. their memory goes back a long time in terms of, of russia, africa. because the circle of ralph has gone there a number of times this year already. what, as the main goal of,

of must go on the confidence and where, where does that lead going forward? is always shooting it for us through our portal. us for that. this is a very simple question because the short answer is collaboration. you know, our main goal is to cooperate with the african continent within the context of our economic, financial and investment relations. we're also talking about the exploration of natural resources and exchange of experience in these fields, issues of security, countering terrorism, and cooperation on international platforms, humanitarian ties, tourism and education. when it comes to education, we have a long and very successful history of joint projects. there's also the exchange of information that we have cooperation in all stairs. yeah. control, but i want to draw your attention to the fact that just in a couple of weeks, the russia, africa summit will take place here in saint petersburg. but it is very important to

remember that this is the 2nd summit. this is not an answer to the questions and problems that the west has created over the past year. the 1st russia, africa summit was held in 2019. then the idea of the summit had appeared even long before that were simply developing cooperation with the african continent in spheres where there is a mutual benefit, we could why? well, we have historical ties. we have the potential, we're interested in each other. and the most important thing that guarantees the effectiveness of this cooperation is a common view of how this relationship needs to be implemented. you know, colonialism or colonial logic. no segregation of those were higher or lower, better or worse. no one wants to build relations between the metropolis and the colonies, relations of new colonialism or neo imperialism, and not thing like this,

even though. and we have never practiced such an approach either on the african continent or in our own country because in many ways this is now a guarantee of trust today and in the future such as he lets us, i will not get it in that nature that it at level the sure. just a few more questions because you've been very good with your time, but the are important ones. china, the african states you just mentioned as well. so the africa lead, they put forward initiatives for a piece resolution of the ukrainian conflict. so the african president this around the pose that he's sending a delegation to russia and ukraine at to provide assistance on that. what are the pre requisites for such an initiative for the chinese or african delegation to be acknowledged by the collective west? i'm for something substantive to come from. it wasn't just putting the law in total there now about 20 initiatives that have been put forward either by states or by

individual political figures to resolve these cranium crisis. they are all completely different with different aspects, with different nuances. they all have the same goal, which is to promote settlement twice, but each why? because everyone understands that this is not just local crisis and not even a regional one. we're talking about a global situation that affects food and security, strategic stability, and international security. all aspects of international relations has been effective. there is no part on our planet that would not, in one way or another, receive some sort of impact from this devastating crisis. directly or indirectly, therefore, many people want to invest their potential and their capabilities to settle it. i think these are not the last 20 projects. i think there will be more, we can say that the chinese proposals are closest to or coincide with our vision of

the situation because they contain basic concepts that are also extremely important for us. the talk is about association of founding, the fire of this conflict. there is a return to international legal foundations. this is an understanding of the, at i'm all a g that is the development of the crisis and so on. ease, therefore, it is indeed a comprehensive, documented for both the chinese proposals and the proposals of mr. rum, oppose on behalf of south africa and many others, unfortunately, faced the same obstacle. this is that the key of regime has forbidden itself to negotiate with russia. thus, unfortunately, all the most brilliant ideas are shattered by the strange, wild unwillingness of kids. to talk about peace in general. why does the key of regime not want to talk about peace? well, there's one simple reason, because they don't want peace. they don't need police, they need war,

but not the people of ukraine, but it's those who stand or who set up this key of regime on the territory of ukraine. and this is the collective west. it's the united states, which is now simply earning. let's see. i don't know, billions, maybe trillions already in this bloody tragedy and they keep earning earning and earning. it's the only thing they care about to is that i'm about to it. and therefore they them to the cube regime from conducting any negotiations with moscow at all. the keys regime has a law that bans any encounter between zelinski and his gang was to come up with anything that would generally reflect on the topic of piece. you've heard senator gramm statement, you've heard george w bush's statement. they've all said that their task is to kill as many russians as possible. thank it's the best investments they've ever made to. so when you this

isn't the logic of peace. it's the logic of destruction, destruction on a global scale. that's all you little shane your glove might know much the well the so the block see green deal of power light important to a lot of people here at the board foot where where people are represented from how long will will rush. am i supposed to stand by is one way to put it if the, if the agreement is being continually violated with a tax on those ships, leaving the green for the poor as parts of the world, such as africa and asia, were russia internally agreed to it or will it come to a head where something has to be done? like yeah, i wish it's a $2.00 financial the other day. you quoted the meeting of the president of russia with military officers. those are, he mentioned this topic to saying that we were thinking about the expediency participating in the steel experiences. all russian experts spoke about the city

our demands were made, but these are not our individual personal demands. vineyards. this is a requirement to comply with what is laid down in the very deals in the very agreement. these were 5 principles that we insisted on observing that firstly and blocking counts for the possibility of payment and locking assets. so on the now the key version has destroyed the ammonia pipeline. to do you think it's possible to implement the steel on all our terms? so the key, every gene answered for every one. no forget, it will not allow the steel to be carried out. therefore, this is a blow to the reputation to the authority of the secretary general of the united nations. it's unfortunately, a blow to food security and so on. new therefore, as the management is already said, we're considering whether we should participate wearables because no ballast and russ mother, i'm so surprised and suggestive in june is romania and knights. this plan suited to

drastically cut the staff of rushes, foreign ministry in the country. it's something of a theme that's happening. where does that leave russians by law for relations? garden, your style with me until we knew weaving. of course you see romania, lucy, germany. you see finland. now in my opinion, iceland have taken similar measures to close consulates, expelled diplomats place restrictions on the activities of our employees, our embassies, our conflicts in general. so why is this happening to? this is the position of washington which wants to completely separate relations between the european union and russia, and not just separate them, but make sure that these relations are not restored for many years. unfortunately, the european union has long lost the independence or decision making it once had. you can see how many leaders of the european countries were brought in by the

united states through election interference, or simply by directly appointing them to some positions. the same applies to european institutions, european commissions, and so on. many people are just direct henchmen of the united states. the task is very simple. to preserve this dividing line, which will not allow the european continent to remain united we're europe. russia is your, uh, that's good, so to speak. the west of russia should be called in western europe. we preserve the fundamental principles. the traditional european and culturally, were geographically in europe. and the united states is not satisfied with this. they want to see europe. pride meant they want to see europe weekend, they strike both at us and china through economic sanctions, through endless political pressure. but this low also falls in many ways and for

the most part it's on the european union. see i well, they did not get cheap energy, they get a huge number of problems due to the flow of refugees, migraines, displaced persons there. we can do to such an extent that many businesses are forced to move from the european union to the united states, which creates favorable ground for economic growth. in fact, for the united states, which is truly financially bankrupt. this is a real opportunity to restart itself, restarted to economy, get not just bonuses, but arrest spite from total collapse. they're increasing their energy sales. they dictate everything in the european union and may even, belittle be opponents of the european union. they eliminate the competition. and why? because the economy of the european union is based on the real production. the euro has been backed for many years by real industrial production with real goods. and

the dollar is based on a printing press is paid and, and let's talk about emissions inflation. an increase in government debt, stocks, bonds bubbles and so on. and as a matter fact, the world crisis mainly began which them that so therefore the issue of expelling diplomats is just the tip of the iceberg. that their task is to tear europe into different parts. and endlessly put countries against one another when it comes to the usa, neither romania nor germany, nor unfortunately, finland can say any. because otherwise they will suffer the fate of those politicians and the european union who defended their points of view and tried to be independent. they were simply demolished through scandals through some political conspiracies or intrigues, and so on each one. now the whole world has to say good bye to barely scone the prime minister, jurors italy who made the country a truly major,

polite rise. you will remember a man who created his own financial empire, a man who entered politics with his own party. you remember how the us dealt with him. how much effort was directed to ensure that the prime minister of italy was removed. and this is a nato ally, a nato countries, one of the closest allies of the united states. for now, how much effort did it cost to remove him from the political picture, to remove him from the political arena? got why? why did they need to do that? because he developed relations with both nato and russia because he advocated for the development of the ties with russia, including energy. he said that cheap energy resources from russia are beneficial to the european union because he was trying to really see this map of the united europe. that's why he largely got all of these problems from the us that were

organized in washington. the problem is, and there is no doubt that they were behind the persecution of girls scone in the many ways in middle school. yet european politicians is also understand this fate can become their own. therefore, they simply refused any actions to protect their own sovereignty. in favor of their own personal security, so that it was for the nation. if it's on my leg, this shows on final question just on what you're seeing there in the united states next to your presidential election. is there someone or some party i knew just i'm not on the ballot. is law school. would they prefer in terms of normalize 18 relations? normalizing relations is is there a hopeful like come from all school next year? no. but listen,

and i won't even try to answer this question because the normalization of relations and in general, even in theory with anyone from the western can, can be considered. and i say this again in theory, only one and after they stop supplying weapons with which they kill our citizens, my brothers and sisters, and our compatriot last year. only after that, someone will reflect on how relations can develop in principle in the futures. and in the meantime, they're killing us. well, they're supplying weapons in order as they say, to inflict at strategic to see they're in fact killing as many russians as possible . no one's even going to think about it for and so that as well. thanks for delving into all those topics with us today. you give so much of your time and re as a heart of the russian foreign ministry spokesman, enjoy the rest of the forum. i know you're going to be busy, but to we do appreciate your time. thank you. thank you. the.

the total is the aggressive today. i'm authorized is additional strong sanctions. today russian was the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that is constantly growing, but i think the pitch of the problem just a couple seniors is click on anything and we see more in the way we'll shift for banning all in portion of russian oil and gas in energy suffering the price for another country hope all's well with the rest of the fed service involved, the little joe biden in imposing these sanctions on russia. it still has destroyed

the american economy. so there's a boomerang, the the, the headlines of this, how the south african delegations, airplane is storms. why oppose security both is, had a presence of this visit throughout all the negotiations of these bonds in case it was an open capital of 26. i will be visible, international income for my case of it's the day the russian president expected to speak to and from the recession, nations a day will be bring you exclusive, probably chair. on opposite the international atomic energy agency called what is obstruction by you planning, selling the special mission to inspect the pros in nuclear power brought us as the

officials. we liberally report for the visit and said the still serious about was patients see the real good thing? i problem last go every hour of the day, this is on see i'm rosa. mommy, they've had 9 students this friday. we saw the program with breaking news, as of the south african delegations. airplane has been stopped by police authorities who reportedly not allowing the groups to attain to fly to russia ahead of civil realm of the upcoming visit. as in petersburg, is comes just off to the south african, the, the reps up piece told in the cleaning capital. go run with those one of the gentleness and other pay them right now says police police didn't give any reason for his actions, even slip searching official with a diplomatic possible. when there was the struggle to outside the cause of the

windows of the police police were using to allow our 3rd edition to december uh with us we have at least a 100 members of the security personnel. some of them special task force, others a members of the p p. s who was supposed to go ahead of the president into. busy and other center rushes for pay for the advocacy submission, the published direct them to confiscate the width instead of being carried by the subject. yeah, they also strip searched a member of the presidential protection services. someone who holds a different. busy if possible, that's a never happened before in all the years of several by the p. s. this is now a different method route. we'll see some of the other media contingent get into play and we'll try to show you some of the other seats just behind, you know, since some of the security forces were obviously not allowed to show their faces. they've agreed to, to cover that up. but this is where we've been stuck for the last 3 days. they can

look up the window. we'll see that the, we're actually in the cargo section of the airport terminal. this is where we've been stuck in the clint. if we wrote this in bucket, we made this in bar, stay over here or we made the find a way to rush. i didn't do so in a commercial flight perhaps. but as things stand right now, we're waiting to hear from our government about whether they'll be consequences or what's happened overnight. and so the fact that was not spend 3 days on board display the, one of the representatives of the 50 s of the strip search they, they took 4 hours to actually reach the place because of the bureaucracy that was in full force really by default. and the cost of cost carry over a 100 security personnel about 20 journalist, the american way stuff which has been which i've been working since the part in south africa 3 days ago. still try, take care of us,

have not opened the doors to allow some fresh air in the course. we've been stuck inside this metal to for so long, many people getting close to probably days. a view of the points here in folding. and this is really all that we can see. busy and this is all that we've been able to see. you'll see that we're flying on an official. so that's a ways this the consequences for what happened head on the presidential protection services. a major general was telling us that his representative was a member of the for the presidential protection services, who carries diplomatic passports was stripped. search by the phone is the news. she's a woman with strip searched by before this please. she tells you to select the passport that has never happened before to the presidential protection service. that appears to be one of the most serious incidents on this trip, which is really become a nightmare. the number of people that are stuck from this place. and what is

interesting is that you have is the presidential protection services. i said the components of parties are trying to sabotage. the security of the south african president is also described descript, searching of his representative, who holds a different message possible, as laces 5, because this is all the black women with such yeah. the 4th invoice of scripts that despite being able to show that she's the representative of this, you could impose this information possible. and at this point we are waiting for. i'm coming to you from our president and all minute stuff. international relations was the presidential folks would have reacted to the saying his country is just the by the actions of this police of knowledge. the great simple nature of the incident officials are engaging with the portage. come to us to resolve

the impass so that the p p. s team is always the media can proceed to get you as planned, as well as be able to cover at least the ship legs off the piece tools, as well as both both of the trip. we do be deeply disturbed by the experience they've gone through. and we, i engage in of what is called applies to see to each, to that situation. the keys are the 3rd day of the things i also in petersburg inside. so these are the form has been done in a rush as an old and capital. today's a pleasant recession will be attended by russian present by them and put them on c has been providing exclusive coverage of a rush as the biggest event the the,

the, the, the, is working in the think of the action of, of 4 of them for us as close a live down to him to see how things are in other russian nolan capital union. the russian president is expected to sleep late to the day i believe. and i believe you've also got somebody with you a very special guess. good afternoon, indeed, wrapped us from russia's northern capital as that house being for the last number of days per particularly today, a hive all back to the up space. 2023 at all. the big issues of the world and russia's economy, in particular, being discussed, debated, routing, tables, plumbing discussions. i'm one very particular problem discussion. as you mentioned there, the plenary session expect the start in less than an hour with lot of me were approved . and then also at the i'll, julian, president ob delma g to boone will be there as well. of course, he'll be breaking down the russian leader the, the, the state really of rushes economy for 2023 better than expected or otherwise. at

the main issues, the key themes rounding at going forward as well. he is just held talks, we believe with the u. e presidents as well, who flew in earlier a ship that hadn't been xy at all new young, the u. e. by the way, the, the special guest participant this year, each year there's a special guest who comes and now these degree at huge amounts of pavilions dedicated to russia. you a relations as well as the rest of it. india today is a focus to so a lot happening allows you mentioned that we've been very special guests to speak on the let's bring in our to the program umbrella solutions. soft who is the program director of the balls. i top thing tech. i'm discussion for him, an international relations expert as well. you're very welcome at to in the archie studio here in the st. petersburg. you hear your thoughts on very 1st of all, day 3, not the 4 and

a lot of deals. i imagine being done. and discussions happening right now, i'm reading into gear before the close of it really tomorrow. your sense of, of how successful the forums being the theater for them is very energetic. we see a lot of things. he was the some a little for legation from different parts of the world. what the cold kind of playing the russia and global majority to a little fan of the entities, people from africa. we see a significant increase in delegations from asian countries. and from what i observed in the sessions that took place and see a lot of enthusiasm and very constructive fund that people are looking for opportunities. and i don't sense here, you know, a feeling that russia is, you know, under pressure on the sanctions. it's very, you know, economy, common sense, a global thinking about the future,

understanding what the opportunities of life in the 21st century for us and the economy in combination with global economies. and generally, i can say that it's a one of the most intellectually, you know, curious discussions that i have been witnessing here session that the was held by the, of all the clubs here might be more university of what i, having a school for international relations, sol, so on friends, in the global affairs, in education, in international affairs. absolutely intellectually fascinating and i sense very, you know, deep sense of all of commitments for a better future here. and thanks for giving us not in the run, just to dell, been into that breaking news. this our we were speaking about on the program that the south african delegations plane at stopping in warsaw on the way to ukraine for the 1st of peace talks there. and in russia and.