the prospects are the see you friday and total offensive will fail and then it will fail dramatically. right. and with those staggering numbers, as you noted, why do you think that as long as get continues to down play, the ukrainian law says, does it all just come back to what his boss is in washington are essentially saying then yes, if you go back to the the 1st 2 months after, after russian troops across the border into ukraine, within 2 months, the government of ukraine, the government and, and moscow, had come to the peace table. and they had almost completely hammered out a peace agreement that i think would have been very satisfactory to both countries . at that point, a prime minister morris boris johnson of star and gwen

flew unexpectedly entered here and he ordered so landscape to break off the peace talks and get back to fighting. i think his message was lord, we've spent too much money building up this huge ukrainian offensive army. we're not going to just let you make peace at this point and bring all of this investment to not. so there could have been a very early pace if you brian and russia had been allowed to determine things for themselves. they would have had a satisfactory piece for both sides. and morris johnson never would have. sloan take care of. i've given the orders he did without white house approval. the white house is driving the war. this is

a pop it more. it is not a war that, that to you for any people want it. the frightening people wanted peace until the landscape turned around and started ordering them to battle because of the united states the united states has driven this war from the very outset. yeah, now when it comes to what is being said about the operation, publicly, many experts and politicians have praise this counter offensive and have previously described the germans apply bumper tanks as a game changer. now we even have the chief of nato saying the cranes losses were quote planned and that there's nothing to worry about. what do you make of statements like that? i think there is a very desperate attempt to make the best out of a out of a bad situation. we say to, to put lipstick on a pig it uh,

is it. what's happening in the battlefield is a great tragedy general for trade show has led most many of these, these wars that we've followed in the middle east. they predicted that the, the outcome of the battle would be decided which in 48 to 96 hours after the ukrainian counter attack began to predict that in that period the ukrainians would penetrate the 1st line of russian defences. well, we're going to see what's happened. it's now a week and a half, so it's long after that is 96 hour period. as your brain is still have not approached the 1st line of defense, the surface of the russian forces. all this was,

was plans by general sort of region who ship way i, magnificent palm, but later somewhat of the nature of the general zuka off of world war 2 thing in general. sort of beacon was given overall control by president clinton keyboard re organized a russian army early on worth of in and very powerful defensive positions. and i think when all of a sudden done, when this offensive completely falters and the ukrainians are forced to withdraw, i think the credit will go to general sort of beacon for bringing us about now when it comes to those heavy losses, they have seen ukraine toughened at some mobilization efforts and ask for even more

weapons that could lead to more ukrainians dying on the battlefield. why do you think that the west hasn't started to look at a piece process to end this ongoing blood shed? if you go back in time and people can select different times, but i think about 2014 in 2014 we over through the government of kia, we ousted the president of president john. a coverage was driven from office and the us state department had officials on the ground who literally selected who the ministers of the, of the new government would be. i believe at that point, the plan was that we would then build a huge ukrainian offensive army that could attack the russian speaking areas in the don boss in crimea. and

probably there were many people in the c, i a of the state department who believes that we would not stop there, that we would use that army and drive forward towards moscow. this house obviously turned out to be a fools errand. there is no way that we're going to penetrate the, the more russia. but, uh, i think there's, there's still all these people who hope that perhaps they'll be some new wonder what weapon we, we have had so many weapons we. we said, well, we never put in for the entire action you have we've, we've sent in modern times. now, leopard tyrants are burning all over the battlefield. the wonder weapons are not

for him to win the war. the problem, the real problem, the west continues flooding these weapons in to the war, but they're only so many young ukrainian man who can go out and buy it and they're dragging them off the streets. they're, it's almost like kidnapped they, they simply have patrols that go around if they see a man who is young enough to walk without a chain. they throwing in a paddy wagon and take him off. and within days he's in battle. they're running out of those people. if you look at the streets of the major ukrainian cities, they're all women. there are no man left. and so we're creating a nation of women, or of widows and orphans where it's

a trip. terrible tragedy. what is happening to the people of your crane or suffering ultimately, no matter how much nature wants more, your brain is going to run out of people to fight it. yeah, it truly is horrific watching what is happening there. now when it comes to those in washington dc who are actually asking questions, a lot of them have been republicans. so do you think that if the u. s. republicans when the next presidential election that we could see efforts for peace talk and maybe efforts for sending less weapons or scaling things down as it comes to us support for ukraine. i think the chances that a republican president would make page would be very good protection way if, if we end up with president trump, he's really made it clear. he has little respect for nato. he

believes that we should be withdrawn from many of these overseas ventures. particularly ukraine it is very interesting if you go back to the, to the 1931, when you had stall and then your head, the soviet union, the, the democrats were very favorable toward style and they like the way they take off a rated and you go to today we're, we're now dealing with the russian federation, which was totally different than the soviet union was under land and under stolen. and now you have the opposite faction. you have the conservative republicans who are sympathetic towards russia. and you

have the most leftist of the democrats, who are the most zealous advocates of nato intervention, and conquering, conquering russia. so, and i know there are people on the right who have tried to draw. some of the democrats tried to draw some of the, the liberals into the opposition to war. but the desire for, for blood has been so enormous on the side of the democrats. that is simply, it seems to be almost impossible to get the democrats on board with, with the opposing the war will say, no. robert kennedy is. he is a democratic candidate for president,

and he is very much against the war and ukraine. there are people who, who have a high regard for robert f. kennedy junior. as a presidential candid if he should advance, that would be very good for or russia also and all, not just rush it, but for the cause of peace because he's not a french ukraine. just as much as it does russia. right. there's certainly a lot at stake here and we appreciate you joining us to lender insights. colonel richard black, former republican virginia state senators. thank you so much for your time and analysis. going to the and the 3rd day of the 26 annual st. petersburg international economic form is in full swing in russia's northern capital with lot and we are putting among the main speakers at the plenary session, archie is continuing its exclusive coverage of russia's biggest economic event.

the global economy is being driven forward by states which resist external pressure and are guided by their national interest deepening their ties with loss gap, despite attempts of isolation. that's the message coming from the russian president during a speech of the plenary session at the st. petersburg economic forum. despite all the difficulties last year, we did not switch to the path of self isolation. rather, we expanded contacts with reliable and responsible partners in those countries and regions that act as the drivers of the world economy. as of now, i would like to emphasize that these are the markets of the future, and everyone understands that full well meters of these countries do not given to external pressure, which is often very presumptuous. they are guided, not by someone else is,

but rather by the national interest and with the countries of this type. the volume of our bilateral trade has increased by dozens of percentage points and sometimes several files and they continue to grow. and this has, he has another test so many to the fact that common sense, the value of the business objective market in newest foss, strong guys on the economy, political climate, and that means, so the on site, the essentially new colonial international system has ceased to exist whereas the multi paula world who is getting have a strong this price is inevitable fema, among other topics, vladimir putin was asked what all reports the prince counter offensive as making headway. george cruising responded that the claims do not correspond with reality. what do we to judge best for the ukraine encounter offensive in some places we, ukrainians, were able to reach the 1st line of defense, but in all those they have not to recreate in. so i using the strategic reserves, and these reserves are incentive to overcome our defenses. and they want to use

this forces to solve holes in these territories to continue the offensive, but they haven't been successful in any area. and they're, in fact suffering have a loss, is much higher than the russian army fall in terms of military equipment every day . they are losing your equipment, how much are we talking about and or so now what's most important to us, but they haven't been successful in any area. i'm 60 percent of in use. as for the head of the ukranian state and branded zalinski, a disgrace to all jews, and declaim, but the neo nazi regime and key of life. no other choice for moscow. the via the you under which news they are in a here's accomplices. they are the ones who are considered to be heroes of ukraine . today. they are those who 2 days ukraine authorities are defending or protecting both individually and they are in the all the jersey. how can we not fight against

this? we have to fight against base russia country but suffered the most from this. we will never forgive this. how can we not fight against? they said this is not neo nazis. and then why that is, we have the right to consider that our target digging that suffice. crane is one of our key objectives and the zip codes plus cross live to our, to the union o'neill who is hosting our exclusive coverage at the forum. now union, we heard quite a lot from the russian president, ranging from the state of the russian economy to the state of the conflict, a new crane. what more can you tell us about what all has happened there in st. petersburg today of the following day here of the fort, i'm not coming at to a conclusion that part from the usual round table of discussions as has been happening all week. the events main event that is the plenary session with vladimir

putin took center stage. he was there along with the l julian president at feeling a host of questions after his speech. in his initial speech, how's be fits the st. petersburg international economic for and the economy was a focal point. early on that saying about sanctions have really triggered a host of solutions and tightened russians. ties with the, the, the rest of the world. the global starts in, at particular, what was open to partnerships with at all countries. if it's gone on an equal footing, they also spoke to the russian population of large in his speech at seeing that 18.5 percent minimum wage increase will happen from next year. i noticed that there was record on employment as well on said that the roubles being increased in its usage internationally in trade to but then the question and answer session after that. and that's where we bring in at ortiz,

correspondent august down the board to at, to talk at more on this high ups on that. indeed, one of the main use lines from the, the q and a, i think was the issue of, of tactical nuclear weapons being deployed in our roofs. yeah, that's actually, yeah. sort of a news ball show. uh, because uh, we knew that the preparations for that were in going on. the pressure was building and facility in the bellows to place it's tactical nuclear weapons there, but they didn't put inside that the 1st batch has already been delivered on the formal installments will be completed by the end of summer. and now the whole story is by the session, the moderator rather than especially mature sancho is by the way, uh, in the past has to be an informal uh, advisor to present the richard nixon. and he is a, uh, well known conservative uh uh, lewis in the united states and he was sort of pushing put in towards, uh, uh,

saying that uh, sooner or later rusher. we'll have to do boy tactical nuclear weapons and food inside. know, for the time being we have all the means to accomplishing our military objectives. and we are very mindful all for not caring the world unnecessarily. he said the force of the russian state, which is directly expressing who will use all you know means at our disposal to protect ourselves. but for the time being, russia has conventional weapons. and after chief, it's uh, military objective at something else. the thing that caught the attention of the, of the audience was dots of talking about at loving your zelinski, things at quote, how he had become a shame to his religion. not again was prompted by the moderator. another question on that. it appeared a quite a motional loving we're putting up that stage. yeah. well uh, you know, there's a whole questionnaire, especially in the western media. if a rush res, uh,

using the new and not c d scores for performed in district purposes. and that is especially essentially invented yes and narrative in order to grab your print entire time. he said, absolutely not. it is an emotional issue for him because his family was here in saint petersburg personally, lying ride during the war. his father fought on the front lines, his older brother who was born and died before writing their porch and was born is buried here in london, driving and on him was grave. so he's somebody who is very attentive. i'm very much emotionally touched by the legacy of the of russia in the 2nd world more. but he also said that yesterday, as he was preparing for this panel, he asked his age to prepare a video and prepare this uh footage about the uh, the damage done by the uh, now to collaborate. there has been delta,

columbia writers during the 2nd world war, and it was pretty emotional, according to fulton, and according to a number of historians out of 6000000 jews that were exterminated during the holocaust. 1.5 were killed by the base uh, been data associated forces, so called a ukrainian liberation army, and they what, what is very special to them. and that was pretty clear other than the individual that was demonstrated during the form is this extreme cruelty said is pleasure that they took in naming it, not just killing they'll just killing for life face, you know, tactical purposes, but torturing killing, inventing new ways of bringing death to people and not just to combatants, most of the people that killed were, you know, children, the elderly women, etc. and he said the legend which inside that russian has to ride to being

defending itself and the world against the you know, people who claim the legacy, all over all of those tortures, he said the equity reverberate today, essentially as well. taking up to the current a, he talked about the you create conflict as well, what one of the things that caught my eye. a and i part of phrase that he was absolutely sure ukraine won't stand a chance in the latest buffalo or anywhere else. quite composite and direct language from the russian presidents. yeah, well, uh it all kind of ties. it all ties up to this. um, talk about of ukrainian counter offensive that we've been hearing for the last couple of months and apparently it's not going that uh, smoothly as of the why do i put it inside the pressure has all the capacities. it's watching it very closely. um, that regardless of how much weapons the west is going to supply russia, we'll take care of that. in fact,

he said that 30 percent of the military hardware that the west supplied to grant has already been destroyed. and he's, he believes that there was, may continue accelerating that process, sending weapons through brain. but he seems to be absolutely confident that the russia is also much of the winning side that the russian will accomplish its goals and storm this war. but for the time being the, the court is the goal is rather in the course of the west, because it still believes that it can prevail over russian militarily in ukraine, etc. thanks very much. not exactly. portico and there are 2 corresponding giving us a sense about 3 hours or so discussion on question and answer session. after that, it is the, the end really here up, day 3, office space, 2023 at lots happening all throughout the week as well. we'll be recapping not in the coming days too, but for not from russia's 2nd largest city,

said petersburg. good bye for now. that's a r t 's union o'neill, hosting our exclusive coverage for us unit. and thank you for that update and do stay with us and our exclusive coverage of the 26 annual st. petersburg international economic forum. that's all for now. but be sure to check out our t. com for all the latest breaking news and updates. we'll see you right back here at the top of the hour. the . the

hello and welcome to the cross top or all things are considered. i'm peter level. can there ever be a lasting peace in ukraine and europe as long as keeps backers only want continued conflict? the west has the wrong priorities. it is looking to inflict a strategic defeat on russia. instead, peace will return when security is guaranteed for all the cross talking the search for peace. i'm joined by my guest general lee in big board . he's chairman of the stand up america, us foundation and rest. and we have, mike, i'm a lucy is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst. and in cambridge we cross the doctor. the big pg is the founder of unit, which is a defense intelligence organization based in the u. k. all right, across lock roles. and in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want me, and i always appreciate it. let's go to the general paul and big 4th. yeah, you're

a military man. you know how wars start? you know how they're font, and i'm sure you would agree with me more should never be fought if you can avoid it. but here we are. and where, what 1516 months into the conflict with no possible outcome on the horizon in your professional experience general. where do we go from here as well? theater, same lines out to prevail. this is getting beyond ridiculous to give it to you this and saying we're over there in ukraine. last year. reformed in international alliance solar patriots international alliance. there really was a focus on go with the boosters and the vaccines and all that. but then we transitioned as we got to other uh, members uh throughout the basically your van down to australia. and so we decided to re focus on the password, and we are now set in motion

a piece of software to be held in the mediterranean in august with some 30 delegates. so we want to pull the, the people in influencers that embrace insanity in this conflict. in las vegas in the best centers modeling your brain and roger, but also the other countries that are involved. now, even in china, when you look around the entire world, destruct, flicked is really upset the entire move of the so to speak. so it's got it. and it's got to be assessed a, okay, well let's, let's go to the doctor in cambridge, dr. the, the, the biggest problem i suppose in conflict resolution is the elements of trust. so obviously there is no trust here. you know, the history of the complex. if you have the look at decision makers in the kremlin, they're going to say, well, we already tried negotiating with these people to minutes process. and apparently they were deceitful and they lied and it was a cover. okay, how do we over to overcome that barrier?

and on top of that, when you have the president of the united states, you have the secretary of defense, basically saying it's was name change in russia that were interested in that as a copy hop that it's very difficult to get around as well. please doctor in, in the cambridge, i think you mentioned about you, right? i think it's a very just post position 4 or 4 these options because it has to be um, you know, open date stay to 7 minutes. the quote was not in good faith, and that's for that time who's being used to actually be on top as most against russia. and then we are seeing currently you know, the, the escalade just close for uh, for janice light on the ukrainians side. this is all pending on the, on the social media and on and on behalf of the of the leading people within ukraine site. there's a very different bridge to cross, yet it can be done. you know, if you get the right people to gather and you get

a dial going with the media and we do initiation of recognition of what the actual problem is. and then of course, they can be your, they can be a resolution, but you've got to get the right people together. and that's the 1st pair. and, and, and it has to be done from, you know, as we do it or, or any other entity does it, you're going to get the right people to, can i suppose to, you know, michael, in my introduction, you know, the, i said that the west nato has the wrong priorities and the priority ought to be and we knew this the december before the complex started is security guarantees for all be in the visibility of security. it's not a for an idea by the way we that was enshrined in helsinki in the 19 seventy's. what happened? how we gotten so far away from that because rushes proposals or demands or ultimate or whatever you want to call december before. that is a point of departure. so. well peter, thanks for having a d n a and on this topic,

particularly of that, what you, what you outlined is absolutely correct. there wasn't just one agreement. there were half a dozen agreements on indivisibility overtime in the 9th, from the 19 nineties and into the 2 thousands that talked about indivisibility, which defined means you do not arm the west at the expense of the east. and when the cold war ended, nato actually grew. it has in large 7 times, the warsaw pact, however, went away. now, as they, as you point out at mr. potent ward, the united states in december of 21, to 2021. that this was a threats to national security. this encroachments and he was ignored. he was poor food. in fact, he was down. he was spoken down to which the russians field american, since the notoriously done for years rather than treat them as an equal power and,

and with and with respect that went away. and we saw that also with the nato. and you saw stolen bird groping around looking for a new identity for nato itself. where is the very existence until this episode happened. they had to create this episode in order for nato to continue. and i think it's, it's an institution that what at all costs must survive no matter what the, the, the cost is. yeah. well that's what we're seeing. yeah. been michael, the, the failure of european security a you, you put it at the door step of nato. this is make those fault, okay, that's it. and, and, and, and, and this, and this organization has to be the spanned, okay, we need to start all over again. i'm getting ahead of myself. let's go back to big for the, the way i look at it general is that there's only going to be a military solution to this. okay. russia, it has incorporated regions of ukraine that it calls its own sovereignty right now . obviously cry me a is a the red as a red line.