versus the, the edge and the ordinary. but if the ceiling power and the presidency, this would have never happened. say lines were prevail and they were right. but uh, that's not the situation. so role and so we think maybe and 60 days will be probably the right, the environments where association of possibilities. you know, and let's go back to our guest in cambridge and i've been thinking over the last few weeks of always going because i'm a trained historian myself, you know, and, and i always think of as a, how will future historians look at this? and then i, i caught myself thinking, i don't know if we're gonna need his story. and so i think we need psychologist because i don't understand the mindset. i mean, there's this, the, the rhetoric that it's coming out of to, of, it's just, it, it really is pathological, i mean, it's good, although you can't talk to these people, they want to kill as many russians as possible all over the world. i mean, they talk the language of genocide and their western backers are just saying,

you know, oh, that's with, that's who they are. i mean, this is a, so you have to, you know, one of the problems we have in this conflict is that the west is not see the other side. i'm a stephen cohen, the great steven cohen, always the say that try to understand from the other guys angle the west with uses to do that. go ahead. my friend in cambridge. yes. all right, thank you for that. it's, it's, it's true. you know, i think you until people resolution. yes. uh so we've gone too far. so i understand that the main problem here. yes, it is an agent expansion to a cease. but then there is this whole mass to buy a new nazis. this is not, it's not a smaller matter. yeah. they do something, something that has the that's on which russia actually cost assistance from the international bodies several times and nothing was done so, and it's being documented by western media as well. so site is very well documented, it's well very well, you know, demonstrated that the, this is the biggest issue you and today we are living at times may of 2007 skiing

sale. um are you move on uh, on other people they are calling colton. jen site so, so for the resolution, i think it's extremely important for the international community to recognize this at the central core of the problem. so, so, and once you've got people talking with regards to really evidence as to what has been happening from 2014 onwards. increasingly so in 2021 where, where the showing will show me most on the bus was increased by the year old. and they were targeting has to be crushing communities and that led to these special ministry of ration, one of the biggest reasons, support for the sample. so i think once the dial in the international community begins with this, there is no way to fight because you know, in the west we have to find the best we can get for them. you know, coming on from home from that was for to right. um, so people are really sensitive to that people do not. com and people do not want this, but they don't even know that there is

a problem. so i think that's true or all it has to be uh, you know, past because that has to disappear. and common people need to really understand what really has been happening in, in, in, in john, by seen in the eastern, called the mexican, you bring up a very good point. let me go to michael real quickly before we go to the break here . the new york times article that came out a few days ago is one of the most embarrassing, shameful things i've ever seen in my life. they started out by there's a few incidents of, of not see symbols and then the rest of the article makes it ubiquitous. 20 seconds before we go to the break, michael, go ahead. sure. yeah. that this has been long standing distance, right? the, the, the, this, this was brought on in fact, by neo nazi efforts and, and initiatives by the near kinds within the united states to actually oppose the crew in, in ukraine, in 2014. and now we're seeing their influence was extending all the way into the united states to this day. so it's not surprising. yeah, i called to you cleaning it is ation of the west. that's something that will be

a topic of a separate program. we're good to go to a short break right now and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the search for peace. stay with our team, the the the, the,

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you were discussing the search for piece the . okay, let's go back to the big 4th general. you know, the, i agree with you said earlier in the program that you know, all conflicts come to an end. yes, absolutely. there are different variations and we can go our call history. but in the way you look at this conflict in the way we, again, it's unclear how it will end, but it will. and how will the world have changed then? because i don't see the sanctions being dropped against russia at all. i, i, i think they'd be economic relationship the europe had with russia will not come back. and that will affect europe, an immensely higher cost of living, probably the industrialization, poor, sand of length living. i mean, this really big changes going on right now. and, and after the rushes had a 300 year of flirtation with the west,

that is over. ok. they the west through the united states, britain to rate expand. does not want russia part of the european architecture of security. that's a big, big change and it has implications for africa, latin america, china, india, etc. go ahead general. well, the transport is age. they're completely here just in the 2 to 3 years. and i remember, i don't know whether you will remember the 2017 lifeline. the foreign ministry set up the 1st meeting between the truck. uh now we have an election coming up next year. we're not sure what's going to happen though. we have many problems in the united states. the default just for looking. no new the new institutional connections and that were the, what i call you a ration for the eastern alliance. all these countries now are line maybe up to 40 bill control to 30 the gross national product to the next year. so we have to look

at this, we have a little bit of a weakening of the european nations of this value america. we have these alignments wireless. that's why we have to focus on. and that's what the summer coverage will do with our delegates and talk about that. talk about some future robots on saturday, and people that can really older countries can gather and be very, very important in the future of those countries. europe is looking at itself right now and the destruction going on in germany and france in italy and certainly within the united states in great britain. so it's just for what we have to focus on the future of the or. yeah, i, i agree. i mean them of the multi polar world that so many of us have during, for, is actually being dropped into our laps. unfortunately, at the great loss of life in, in ukraine. it's dr. rich and again, in cambridge here, we had in the last new cycle, the head of nato, spelt, and burg,

you're saying russia needs to be defeated because of china. i mean, this has something that there, once you claim, i mean this is extraordinary. what they're trying to do is we shuffle the chessboard and they keep losing pieces and went ahead to mon is valid on it's luck, it, it, the last is, and that's what i worry a lot about. you know, it's talking about taiwan right now. i mean, how many complex do they want to get going here? it's extraordinary to be honest. why is that? i think we need psychologists now, not historians go ahead and cambridge you are at the right when 11 began limits as to what's happening right now. it's actually a, it's, it's really important is the optic front. so one, yeah, you know, that's, that's one front, which is which not being discussed at the moment. but it's what it is, an adverb back with this conflict as well. so this is a conflict between east and west trying to get to bu, uh, you know, subtract supremacy essentially. so, and you create is just just

a proxy time site. it's just the, just a way to, to initiate these conflicts and the power out and, and, and, and in all honesty, i think the world today is in the hands of the units. so yeah, so no idea if i, i completely agree with you. i complete and then you have a president the united states, it's out to lunch. okay. i mean, i got i, michael, that would be good to you. i mean, it looks like you have a little problem there with your picture, but your backend that's good. um, i have a theory you worked in the belly of the beast or is it because the donal because joe biden is out to lunch that people liked victoria new and, and jake sullivan and anthony blake and have so much power. do you think that's true? that's the problem. oh yeah, absolutely. the in fact, if it weren't for their push and the us push on europeans, this problem with your crew would not be existing today as far as i personally

concerned. this does not, this what have never of happened. they have an agenda, as you pointed out, to isolate russia, contain it like a cold war or, and have regime change. that's our, that's our ultimate goal. excuse me, the, the, the other problem that i'm seeing here now is that where, where we're at the, the, the, the world has expanded over into a multi paula world. and that's probably for the good. but on the other hand, it's, it's, you're going to see a tremendous change, not only in europe, but in the united states. this, as i said, this war would never have happened now in recent days. and that's another development to get back into the how do we establish peace in this mess? the, the african nations now have come together some 7 of them, including egypt. and the general is personal friends with the pro egypt, sion president as easy. they are going to be talking in, in,

in coming days to zalesky, to put him. and while they're here in the leadership, our job through the patriots international alliance combine which includes unit from dr. beach is is to try to get a ground swell of popular support for toward a ceasefire to put pressure on our governments to achieve that. that goal. it's going to take time. yeah. like, well i'm the, i'm sorry michael button tucker carlson. did that any god silence. okay. and fox news is trying to muscle him. i mean, if you speak up against the, the war party, they punish you. so i, i, i think you're right. i, i think your endeavor is admirable. i really do. and that's why you know, we will advertise that on this program and on this channel, but it's an uphill struggle. let me go back to the general and big for it here it's, it's a, it's quite patently obvious. it'd be us administrative sion with me the u. k shamefully

following along is or maybe good. we don't know what their intent is to keep this one going on as long as possible. they have no intention of ending this thing any time soon. i or the run out the focus on this other conference, peter, you know, any upright care like this stage of leadership is day structure takes funding. we want to support for this and uh we have a location picked out for the summer, but it's very important. and saying mind me sooner rather than later. and that's what we're focused on to get the best on the and that, and as of, of these governments want to continue to purge and try and take the office and to change the regime and rush, it just goes in solar. so the chessboard remark show that, but uh, that's why his stomach was going to be right back to graham yours on zillow. rules are there are say minds they're attempting to bring

a c far over there and stopped doing what that's fiction in, in, in cambridge, ohio. one of the things i really worry about is that, you know, when i think of, you know, i hear all these uh, conferences about rebuilding ukraine after the conflict and, you know, getting donors together and all of business, very reminisced like of afghanistan interact and we all know how that ended up. ok . but what, what is really troubling is that because they, their concern really is not the ukraine. i'm not sure much of ukraine is going to be left when this is all over and, and, and on top of that, it the ending of this conflict, the complet can in militarily, but politically, it may not. they will have her revenge. and this ukraine, full of nazi, supported by nature of the nato, b, e u, in the united states. i can think of a worse outcome than that, because these people will continue a guerrilla warfare the, you know, blowing up uh, pipelines, etc, etc. because i'm glad that you mentioned what you said earlier is because this is

also a huge political problem. go ahead. yes, it is done. and you know, you asked for a day to self interested in seeking any to pronounce a resolution to do thanks to and it's, it's pretty pat how you and it's like this. all right, any international party country existing is complete. the hope this once with investment isn't actually genuine property of recognition that there is, there's now these not you probably have enhanced the best who is really guessing international community coming together as good people not, not know the crazy if you want us, how good good people who are seriously interested in resolving this and it has to be done to it through recognition so, so you get these hosts of entities and, and they are very good and leaders around and, and what really seriously interested in resolving the match that they're there presently in united states and came in with the nato countries themselves. so you're going to get these really genuine guys together, you know, and, and get the dialog floyd of actually recognizing that there is this problem. there

has to be a resolution that has been a resolution for this. you know, we, history is that teacher. so a post world war 2, we know how, thanks for the results. and the biggest element is actually to be able to get the message out to the people. so once you have the support, you have to pay for it and the people in the rest would not support this. no right now we have a media plan. you need to back out in the west, so the common person here in bridge and i can tell you is not aware of the cold. yeah. so once, once they are aware of the problem, i can vouch for it, they would not stand for it. they would really take the government, take the defense department to task and, and, and really are simple answers so, so i think we've got to overcome this media black house and c, h and, and that's kind of only be done gradually, honeywell, okay, now we're rapidly running on time we have one minute left there, i'll give it to mike. oh, you know you and i are children of the cold war. i would imagine the general is to it was the other guys that blacked everything out,

they blocked everything. but now the west is that the west is now the land of censorship. i think you find that ironic. so do i last 50 seconds? go to you, my friend. a. yeah, let so much for democracy and, and that illusion that they try to perpetuate and it doesn't exist even a year. i mean, you have r t blacked out in, in, in the u. k. for example, what nonsense, throughout europe, this is not democracy. and, and, and americans, americans particularly have no clue on how 8 for 8 years. ukraine has been bombing, is showing the eastern part of ukraine that led to this crisis. they, they finally asked for help. and that's why rush, it had to take some initiative. because of us getting to be too much, especially then when they saw us and nato pylon coming, coming in 2 weeks after our disasters withdraw from the half gotta stand. well, i have you. all 3 of you have convinced me that the end of this conflict will come

about when people of good will come together and you certainly all 3 are. thank you very much. i want to thank my guess and big for the rest in and in cambridge. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t. so you next time and remember across the top of the hi, i'm acceptable and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please. i do have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi $1000000000.00 corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead,

change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time. but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you as a, how are they a cps? because they kept the scroll for ideas and then use their email futures. great if in to the rules, the nazi theory of racial superiority finished style for years of creating an ssl all the place and 14 concentration comes. so the full prisoner of war, labor comes to in prisons. city well, you know, thing to do list. she's going to be in your venue. so i'm assuming you need even the, the chest, the leading enrollment i could have looked into the beatles going to be approximately 25000 people went through the occupied of go to finish camps

according to official figures. these move stuff dumbly level if the ship did utility and i give you an idea, i'm not sure it's just the snider stuff. so the youngest that i me, i'm not sure what the firm in disease forced labor to achieve by the world. and so for me as well as giving up on the lot that it also need you to do was to take that to you that, that it's, it's even almost human off with those who put in his name, push these things up to give you what feeling that you do it because he doesn't do those thousands of test a massive crimes and the impunity of criminals. so when you look on here, you know, wanted to do this be a good idea. yeah. for the good i see it or really supplement, they decided to do it. you got to do, please don't keep it. but this being, your thought was put in the word along the it's

the the we have many more with it. and so the nato countries, they know this on all the time, they're trying to persuade us to start negotiations. reduction screw that attends by k of the allies to provoke russia is using nuclear rhetoric only wiping the gap between the west and most of those. that was the plasma putin 0, to speak to this in petersburg for him. but he touched upon the wide range of issues. russia will look at how to head back if have 16 jacks to using hostilities, a base outside ukraine. repeating boards that the 5 digits will be destroyed to start the german supplies left with tanks expelled, use the games west of 16 and a clock from ramstein to attack into into russia. isn't russia almost applied to attack ramstein air force base?

in the time we arrived at the time, we went to the porch and we did not witness did not last look into legation visiting kia, refutes ukrainian teams of a russian attack which were act towed by the western media thing that most like actually took place. the a very welcome. this is on the international with the very latest world news update is good to happy with us. of the day on the 26, the annual st. petersburg international economic form as drawing to a close in russia's northern capital president vladimir presume was the main speaker at the forms plan of recession. honestly, continues is exclusive coverage of russia's biggest economic event. the

russian president touched upon the wide range of issues from economic cooperation to the situation on the front lines in ukraine. let's take a look at some of the highlights from his speech. is what the through just fine to with the difficulties last year. we did not switch to the parts of self isolation, while the we expanded contact with we're liable and responsible partners in those countries and regions, the actors, the drivers of the world economy. and i would like to emphasize that these are the market to the future. everyone understands that full well leaders of these countries do not given to external pressure, which is often very presumptuous. they are gone, did not by someone else is interest, but their own national interest comes from when you a member of the stuff. the issue is that ukrainians are using circle strategic reserves, which consist of several elements, some to break through the defense, others to gain a foothold, however they haven't been successful in any area. indeed. and also these are huge

around $1.00 to $10.00 in comparison to the russian army in terms of military equipment. they're losing more or more every day for stores. media mogul, since childhood. i've always had many jewish friends. they say zalinski is not a jew. he's a disgrace of jews, but under his accomplice there's other ones considered hay rows of ukraine today. wouldn't they are those who, today's ukraine, you know, forward ease of defending both individually and in their audiology. how can we not fight against this? russian was the country that some of the most on this we will never forgive this. if this is not in the are not system, then what is it we have the right to consider. that's how tall get to do. you know, it's, if i ukraine, is one of our key objective samantha, where you kind of thing is i suppose the, when you don't know, i usually business loan for sure. the use of nuclear weapons the see are basically possible. but 1st of all, we don't have such a need. and secondly,

the very fact of raising this issue itself reduces the possibility of lowering the threshold for the use of weapons. at the same time, we have many more weapons in the nato countries. they know this and all the time they're trying to persuade us to start negotiations on a reduction screws them all say is, you know, neil on docs on a boy co discuss the move to the side of recession as well as the questions which go on as the crowds, attention one of the main use lines from the, the q and a, i think was the issue of, of tactical nuclear at weapons being deployed in feller roost. yeah, that's actually a sort of news ball shown because we knew that the preparations for that were in going on. the pressure was building and facility in the bellows to place it's tactical nuclear weapons there, but they didn't put inside the 1st batch has already been delivered on the formal installments will be completed by the they'll somewhere in now the host of, by the sessions,

the moderator rather than the session to meet your son who is by the way, in the past who used to be an informed well uh, adviser to president richard nixon. and he is a well known conservative. uh uh, i know, as in the united states and he was sort of pushing put in towards the uh, saying that the sooner or later rush or we'll have to do boy tactical nuclear weapons and food inside. no, for the time being, we have all the means to accomplishing our own military objectives. we are very mindful all, far north, tearing the world unnecessarily. he said, all the force of the russian state, which is directly expressing who will use all you know means at our disposal to protect ourselves. but for the time being, russia has conventional weapons. and after chief, it's uh, military objective at something else. the thing that caught the attention of the, of the audience was that all of talking about at loving your zalinski,

things at quote, how he had become a shame to his religion. not again was prompted by the moderator. another question on that. it appeared a quite a motional let him are putting up that stage. yeah. well, you know, there's a whole question that especially in the what's the media, if a rush res, uh, using the new nazi d scores for a proof of getting to stick purpose says that it's such an essentially invented. yes. the narrative in order to grab your print entire time. he said, absolutely not. he also said that yesterday, as he was preparing for this panel, he asked his age to prepare a video prepare. this is about the, the damage done by the nasa. collaborators bundled the columbia writers during the 2nd world war, and it was pretty emotional, roger with what's inside that russia has to ride to being defending itself and the

world against the you know, people who claim the legacy, all over all of those tortures. he said the equity reverberate today, essentially, as well. taking up to the current a, he talked about the ukraine conflict as well. what one of the things that caught my eye, i part of phrase that he was absolutely sure ukraine won't stand a chance in the latest buffalo or anywhere else. white composite event, direct language from the russian president. yeah, well uh it alls time time it all ties up to the so talk about of ukrainian counter offensive that we've been hearing for the last couple of months. and apparently it's not going that uh, smoothly and why do you wanna put inside the pressure has all the capacities. it's watching it very closely. um that regardless of how much weapons the west is going to supply russia, we'll take care of that. in fact, he said that 30 percent of the military hardware that the west supply to grant has

already been destroyed. and he's, and he believes that the west may continue accelerating that process, sending weapons through brain. but he seems to be absolute, the confidence that the russia is also much of the winning side that the russia will accomplish its goals and storm this war. but for the time being the, the court is the goal is rather in the course of the west because it's still believes that if can prevail over russia militarily in ukraine, a chinese on boss of this a, russia, john, one way stays most going. badging has not only trade in economic ties, but also cultural as educational links to china and russia are friendly neighbors, linked by a common border. and the 2 countries have a long history of cooperation and friendship against the backdrop of growing trade . in economic partnership, we must not fail to highlight the hand in hand sharing of culture which has been quite

a success. one examples from just this year when russian orchestra staged several concerts in china selling out the venue is to chinese film premier as were also held in rush this year. and we're very well received by the russian public cooperation between the 2 parties in the fields of education is also developing rapidly, with both sides, showing inactive willingness to strengthen partnerships for a long time after the founding of the people's republic of china, warm relations that existed between china and soviet union and we grew up reading soviet works and watching soviet films today. chinese printed materials and films can easily be found in russia. and i think this is all great. and we hope that this momentum will continue so soon as we continue our exclusive coverage, all of the 26 and pages back into national economic for the president, vladimir putin has sent a strong warning to the west saying that if at 165 to jigsaw said to ukraine they