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more listens so that, but in the 1st was focused on the events themselves against focused on security forces to vote. sites like studies were doing well. so at least focused on the security forces on bearing as much share of the brunt of this type of tara doubt. nowadays, what's happening happening at to you because we thought that there was a imminent prospect of yours estimation. you've been shot your injured, i don't have your healing and now you had detained and can you leave your house right though? well look, since we last spoke a while, i have had one association with them. and then since we last spoke off of that on the 18th of march, i'd rather as i said they should that, that. and then there was another one, a few days later which i preempted because i was informed beforehand that there was going to be a false flag operation where they would be. but from that they had people inducted
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within the within on my own body members. and they would have, uh, they would have a shot, some police, the police would have come to me and why is my life? and they just because according to or open in boys, we will sweep elections. so this is the election. yeah. well, you know, the 7, but you know that mariam sharif, the daughter of the panama paperless prime minister, i give you know, as sharif who is protected in london. i don't know british authorities a protective ma'am claim getting your body could fit into one ritual. well, if that was the case, then they shouldn't be worried about it. like since already the government hung up, the supreme court has ordered and elections according to the constitution on the 15th of may open jobs, the biggest problems 60 percent of bikes, that the number of years i would have 37 by elections, a, b,
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g. i might probably use the same as the body, but it's the end of it. but it's one place why i just, you know, make sure you have it. on the other hand, you did get bail and surely sure. but as you're, you've is correct in that it's only the president progress on the government to change the bail remind period from 90 days, which it wasn't the your government to 15 days, which is why you are free to talk to me right now. no, that's not true. you only read it. i was on him on the supreme court, ordered the buying, the my arrest was all. that's why i got out. i think what the right minister was a getting at was things are pretty tough and the your appointment is you've been focused on for john list for the media for uh, well, for the economy. actually. this is the biggest loss of you know, 1st one is going to be all you have to do is not going to be can only silvio likes
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that published by the us government. our economy was booming a year ago. it was going to 6 percent and it is in the comics. so we'll find you stop by in the see i in the see what was going to go jump in the math. i'll shoot you my son's 70, and you're going to have the best economic performance plus the henry will go with me with adult 2 countries, which i'm just going by and doing the best. so that's nonsense. and secondly, how can anyone compare what happened and might see and off goes to the, to the a martian lord focused on, right? oh, there's complete media. my name is not allowed to be, i don't be a deal about affairs that the tradition duration part of it. but the doesn't listen. but we know becoming a been on or above the you're gonna compare what happened to be,
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what was happening my time on the slow, there's going on a former prime minister. i'll stop you more from the 22nd prime minister of august on in the chairman of the p. d. i. m run cotton after this. break the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with the throat, and by just only by minister and run gun, you see,
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even though your, that you've been detained, you've been shot at your face as, as a nation. the threats focus on seems to be on the global stage. while of course, i think the government itself recognizes the terrible economic hardship by increasing hardship of the population of august, then they're doing deals with china. with roger with bricks they're going to be focused on is going to be no doubt represented in south africa as a brick summit without you. presumably you'd wanted to join us on to join the bricks. would you or the obviously there's a certain element of no, one thing i guess on in breaks, because while china might clearly may reduce the power of bricks, because india would stop participating low and you know, international relationship. but my wife and it's very straightforward, focused on, became part of the lesson blog during the core war. and so, you know, we,
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we, we look up from russia and all the, all the, all, the, a soviet union brought in there on the other hand, at a non line of foreign policy. so they, they, uh they, the one lot of a lot right now in india is, is a part of the board, which is the special relationship with the us that is in that alliance. and yeah, and change most of our shop is trading with china. i mean, not, that's how god, you should have the foreign policy should be for the benefit of the people you spoke to the last time. i don't know whether you want to join the b j. b, but you did. the customer thinks it was about how you think it not a line far as policy like the one body is following. is that correct of it was, oh, it has been in the non line by the pharmacy has been since the section 775 years. and so i'm wondering basically for him that honestly,
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but my point is the country is sure the foreign policy should be for the benefit of their own people. when you become a barbara ross or when you become part of a conflict like by your son, begin part of the a one job. we had a heavy price with $5000000.00 refugees that we had addressed to go trustworthy. going to, i'm and minute and say it didn't, but it doesn't seem focused thought as a result, that 1st joining the mind, i've been doing the world, did it in 2000 and box studies book go. so my point is done cation focused on the product is to get people out of poverty. it should know you think, richard, the way for that bricks is the way forward for that. because obviously the united states has various issues with the brakes, bank loading chinese for an economic policy. the problem is we have the us joining our driver like that is a problem because, you know, it's,
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you have to navigate between that. but i mean, china is focused on state, but it is the fastest growing economy. so we have to have a good relationship with china. we all know that it had for 17 years. why didn't you borrow the money from the brakes bank instead of the washington? i am a, when you are a prime minister. well, you know, we didn't have that option. i'm afraid then we already and then i'm a program, but i came to a prime minister. and you know, we really had no choice but to go to the i am a okay, i know that there's so many opposition that might reject that any reaction that you know of from uh to the left to congressman brad sherman and the united states has won the us government, that the, there's a deteriorating situation in pakistan. every time the question is us of the state department briefings. they go, well, you know, it's an internal matter of what's happening to him or, and gun, and what's happening to the people of pockets done. then what's happening about the
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oil. the shipments are most go even any we did blinking reply to congressman bedroom and as far as you understand or is he ignored the lesser you might have to explain what the less really was. but i think you're drawing him by the us. us both spend yeah. all of the spent brad sherman has written to blink and at the state department saying, you know what is going on in pockets on as regards democracy as regards the imprisoning of your party members and leaders that alone. what's happening to you? well, you know, i don't care what this, you know, if they don't comment about what's happening me, and frankly, i think by just something doesn't match as eventually we will have to solve it sort of problems. but my only point is, you know, how on the west some countries talk about what is happening in dialogue was how big and in hong kong, a lot of the week is in china and about russian human rights issues. so is it only
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human rights only? but in democracy, in border, when it comes to rivals, shouldn't not be consistently across the board. then if you all profess ends of democracy and human rights, then shouldn't be whatever they are while agent then they should speak up with those boxes on right now. the was human rights, human rights violations that going on and focus on right now. what did you make of the cryptic comments coming from the present government in pakistan? and i mean, i don't know what you made of around the, the, the interior minister thing i, the rumor and con or us, we'll get murdered. what does that mean? because you know, he's using the killer, i mean his own body and i that is what he's doing, but he's motivated you people. and so you get a small type of quote. so he would deny that. what does it mean?
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does he mean that there is a possibility that you're going to get through these $150.00 corruption charges come out again in time for the election? what does he mean? what he means is that if i, if data elections that i, when there's someone like a group like him, going to be in trouble. i think that's what he means because i mean, bravo meant by his son right now is that we do not have rules and all. in other words, the people off the brakes are above the law. and the majority of the population has no access to justice. they don't have no one to protect the fundamental rights as i started by moving for justice 27 years ago. why did so many? i mean, you talk about media, which you, without a free media, they no country can cause of democratic. the numbers of john list that went missing when you are prime minister, why, where did they will go? i know at the moment him run, realize con is missing. since the 11th of may, i don't know if you have any update to him where he's going, but i have
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a list of journalists here. we went missing while you were, you were there, you know, whatever views they hold the drum, set, the news, read javits of him, something ledger and a gen ups or la mirror. so i can what happened to all these people? that'd be just a good. well, the joy, let's the, let's say, and nothing to do with my government. everything was the, was with the manager establish fund because we was coming out of the war on debt or, you know, and, and do a lot on debt or, you know, the military was very sensitive to goodness good besides that. so we had, you know, then they wouldn't pick up people, but believe me, my, don't, my never went off for a dentist. and right now, you've gone compare what happened then? one of the best investigative journalist eye surgery was 100 off of the country, unloaded. and you know, i mean see what, all jealous of the country of the country because it said for the life of every the
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media, is it sort of dram though? so you don't know what happened during our time and, and, and the story and fascism which is going on right now. all other perils with donald trump. then the people, the said, people think donald trump goodwin us selection he's being banned from different media is a reason to talk. he was, it was doing a rally, and it wasn't broke as on cnn in the m, as in b. c, another channel, just one fox news. you can't get your rally's broadcast. one normal focus on any channels. he of course, tried to negotiate with food and you were talking to boot and other power, those between you and trump, trump writing, i in the opinion, both in the united states and according to you, you are the favorite, the candidate at any future progress on the election, this is sort of going to be, is all the open in bulls in august on plus. i mean, if you want ever, it is a body that was 80 percent of the bi election. so it's obviously, you know,
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it is right. uh, probably the most popular, but do you know history now coming to this a comparison? it's something different besides best on this is i'm basing. i'm going to endorse cases, but if it does drive to a uh, one of those gets loaded on a truck and people were lost on the west. i mean, how could, how could i have submitted 9 criminal offenses when i was in jail for whole days? oh, good, i have coverage for the dentist of them. i am on for the job is up there as of what i mean, how could it be possible? imagine them to try to put it. there isn't, isn't done about people, you know, maybe wednesday the government is, uh, but that, that so you've got to compare what is out there to daughter and somebody for the support of the. yeah. i mean, i be judged for murder. do you know? i don't even know the guys those android good, who just getting in and and,
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and i remarked on and i enjoyed for murder. whereas why it says that the family to his son has normally had some other people come with us, talked before his mother. so there's water is happening here, has been taken as well. do you want, do you want to be prime minister again? i know you said recently that you wouldn't to tell anyone who inspires the politics to go into politics in vegas. then again, you want to be prime minister again as i was, you know, i was asked the question, i mean about why don't make such a good that. i said i wouldn't bother you wouldn't wish it on my enemies. i mean, a bunch side of that was that the ones grand part of this? i looked at it as the was good, especially with people who can do other things. i guess people know, gone. do anything one, go to the politics. but why don't take such a question? you know, like the founding father, a general,
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like most of my dental or like a gun the in india. i mean when it is a mission that is completely different. for me, someone or whatever it is, i was the biggest them in the country. i didn't need to be in politics, but i realize that unless we a brutal role, which we did because we have other at least got got to in this country a small and he does is above all, it's got to the resources. so unless you have to roll a level playing field, i've always felt up country. i don't john's yes, but when you were in how when you were in, but when you were in power, i mean this what the estimated man is able to is the son below? well now uh, the foreign minister of buck is land said that you're only too happy with those ends. you democratic imply the democratic lead capture as you're describing voices were supporting you, you're fine. with that, it's only when they don't like you that you are now criticizing them. these are
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lead cable talk e as dog can absolute rubbish. it was the 1st time that we started role because the big mafia was like the sugar mafia like the petroleum. i've got, it's never happened in my country before. the problem was the lead on a g. u joy, anything you can do it is against a daughter law. we didn't get to the other them off years under the role because he was connected with that. i mean, he was friendly with the, the loved us. so he and he had to be doing this because he was on the ball. so, so what i to connect you to bring the ball for under the rule of law, you need a strong government. my government was a collection government we which did not have the majority. so when i, when i went to the doctor mafia, i would have a problem keeping my majority. and so therefore, my conclusion is that you can only if you want to have balls and you want to bring
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people under the overall, you cannot do it unless you come up with a prop, a majority, you know, a problem. my daughter, what do you think you're think you would get one right now? so just very briefly, when you be running, if all of this quote actually managed to wrap up before the next election, the bug is fun. we run for 5 minutes to as well as cost of this is the election. yeah. i mean my part is or, or what is for the election. but what the, what is happening is the, the other, the most so scared of losing that they want to either text it to me logo. so be going to not be on 12 minutes because there's a similar called scanner, you know, because it is on folders. so normally once it goes to actually uh, disqualify it or would it be present uh which again would it be? would it be a big fos, whatever. because my apologies was do with the election when i was there because
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it's just the companion never has the public stood with any one body as it stands today, we does all the parties together are scared off by competing against us for 5 minutes during run contact you and that's it for the show will be back on monday with abraham, how she had a major global fellow at the age of global institutions on the future of multiple of ours and strengthening arab trying their relations. meanwhile, you can keep in touch by role social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to have channel going on, going to be able to come to watch new and old episodes of going underground see monday, the the,
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the russian states never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best, most all sense and up the, in the system has to be the one else calls question about this. even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin mission, the state on russia to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services. for the question,
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did you say a request, which is the, the, the we are in august on one of the most ethnically and culturally diverse regions on the entire planet. in fact, this city there been states all the way back to 8th century b. c. and was an important cultural stop on the great, so which, which means it's a perfect place for us to jump right in and get a feel for everything. the
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what does ally means though, is a local historian, musician, and guide with a special passion and connection to douglas dining culture the as well thanks for meeting me here in talks. it's a beautiful, beautiful area. um, so let's get right into the darkest on a 30 different ethnic groups. 14 different languages about 200 different dialects. how can you have so much diversity in such a small, small space? a little boy, 2 of the arabs and other travelers who came here. i used to say that i guess done was not just a land of mountains, but also a mountain of languages that i'm a good people living on each mountain spoke to own language. but most of the cars that go to move for you. i think the roads were barely possible that'll get through the settlements had little contact with each other. so different places had their own different languages,
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different customs and different cultures that instead of the other kids as me, which it doesn't include to to, even today when you literally go past the next hill. you'll hear a different language come through, boys. they come speak, doug, and that gives other speak luck and a lot of those speak lives getting go to a sudden publish that on them. so impossible. mountains go to it and it's the nature of people i knew they liked to be different from everyone else at the. traditionally, they're attached to what they say is their own language croft and so on. the rest of the 2 languages and doug is done today because it goes to unfortunately $25.00 a likely to go extinct in the near future because language is a disappearing. uh, they're just like in the rest of the world because okay, and that's very sad. is this a regression? we'll do some scary. so on the issue of how much the calculus to meet a was an issue with so much diversity. it's still incredible that there isn't any in fighting. in fact, there's a word that i believe you have. it's called go to see meaning. highlander. what
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does this word mean to you? what does it mean to be good? see here, and i guess don't go to the people who are free, so free like an eagle or the highlander is self sufficient. some of the stuff actually, as we say, new people in the mountains entre rich that are great. all self sufficient of purpose and would you say have enough focus on put some of highlanders and guardians of land a bit. it goes into the little settlements were built and how to reach spots where agriculture was impossible, was miserable. and the name dug as done itself means a land of mountains. so that makes the old guest dani people who go to the phone. if a boat you have a good when someone does a good job, people praise him, but we don't get are a real gun. it's being called a gun. it's weird because a sign of recognition from the local people you're talking about relationships between people. everyone here is open their friendly and they help each other. in fact i've, i've seen this with my own eyes. people can walk into someone's house and there's so much hospitality. but i've also heard that the mountain people are tough. it
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seems like a paradox. can you explain this paradox to me? no. well, you can walk into any highlanders home and be there on a guest on more than that, not just on big holidays and most are going to go. so you can do that at any time for us, for product, as we say, a guest is a messenger from, i'll probably just send it with us and doesn't just show up in a mountain village for no reason the the time is if he's here because he must need something that's one of the end. the highlanders who hosts job is to help that person is the best way he can so that the visitor is comfortable enough quotes the gas to get to the best room, the best food, the best treatment. and i put it when you get the money. at the same time, a harsh conditions with temperature is dropping sharply. a nice product must have influenced the local character as well. we saw people can easily get relaxed, but that tempers rise just as quickly as we do. there's like a muscle of contracts and relax is going on with it. but maybe that explains the
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paradox item that it's one that that's what i think, at least as someone who lives here, we go to look at the resources, steve, and getting you here today. it is not that easy living in the mountains as hard. why do people choose this life to live up here, away from all technology away from all civilization? what pick them? well, as i said before, and then go to the highlanders. main treasury is freedom and then you with a football, do you what they give him is he felt free in places like this. there's no walls surrounding him to believe nothing. blocking is vision there so you can see an enemy more, a friend approaching from a long way away. boy is so if you have a special climate, so people found their roots here, okay. and once they settled for whatever reason, they go to the us, i lands on mountain terraces and they was self sufficient in bush and they had everything they needed. yes, i think the right alpine meadows above who is terrace farming below there was some gardens where you can at least grow apples, impassable cables. and that was enough to sustain life here in the mountains. just
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go home cuz we have a little of the furniture is fast moving. i have to ask uh because you look amazing . um. tell me about which way. lovely in uh, between uh this is traditional highland dress. so when you start out at 1st they will white, but during the caucasian will they will mostly read so that wounds wouldn't be so visible. that's why we have this joke and august on the red is the have a color with a jetta cask special breast pocket for rifle judges. the very next in flint deluxe we used at the board. where can, would you be to see that in the front desk doing the pockets helped to reload quickly or the it was easy to remove cartridges when lying down, which is much easier than from a cartridge belt. and look prepared to get a cartridge out to a belt, you have to raise the upper part of your body. even though the a little cut up, the more and become a target was that we students that puckett allowed you to reload and shoot on the well staying press to the ground. good. it's what it is to do this. here is just an element of the cost to him, but also a reminder is the highlander is always ready to help. and if the need arises for
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someone from which you're not supposed to pull your diag a alphabet scabbard without a good reason. and it took them according to all saying, probably in order to wear a dagger around your bells, you need not just have a pass code on your head vision, but also a head under your deposit. and that means that you're supposed to think twice before using a dagger. what you're gonna tell me what the even when got. so you would get into a fight, stepping your opponent with a duncan like this was considered the calendars and made you a target of a blood feud on the list to you was supposed to slash in order to stop your opponent, to cushion without even caught his wrist, but stabbing meant killing you to kinda know religion. can somebody from pointing out the person like this is perceived as a threat, but you're not supposed to do it most part of it. even if i just do this, i'll have to answer for this threat to the almighty. if it needs it, so a dagger is just a deterrent google. it push it, that's what it was. the budget was april because i'm new parents solution for just that to show up. and i see i have so many more questions for you. and i also know that you are a musician, so i'm fascinated to care on this conversation someplace else already.
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the so i have to say this is a beautiful, incredibly interesting instrument. tell me the story. what do we have here? what did they submit to any of our language? we call this instrument on time or more pandora in russian. elizabeth, a, it's the oldest musical instrument in the mountains. got off, a young guy fell in love with a girl, but failed to win a hand in marriage. so he killed his only go to come and shop down his own detroit, the beautiful because he was the owner of the only one.

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