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to uh that claim uh trouble a is going to travel directly to south africa, but uh, the south african leader is here alongside his colleagues. and i believe they have already arrived to the constant and palace here in saint petersburg. and the meeting with the russian president is about to begin any time soon and seem to keep an eye on this one or 2. the locks on a board go. thank you so much for your continuing coverage and to discuss the obstacles. so the african delegation has had to navigate in key as, as well as the fate of the delegations piece plan. let's go live now to who's been that? have us ok. director of the graduate school of business, university of zambia. thank you so much for taking the time to join us on the program today. now, recently, top level international visits always seemed to end an alarm sounding and claims that the visitor is in danger of russian showing if these visits are of course,
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public knowledge. so what reason would russia have to target these foreign leaders? well, i think that there's, or there's been a lot of our mist information. uh, you know, and uh, you know, uh this war is this conflict sir, is much more about also the information on the side, trying to, you know, paint russia a bodily on front of the international community when the african lead does, for example, i lived in the you can in there was some missing information that i show was uh, you know, shedding uh, key of our really does where they are. and we saw that the, you know, uh, from that edition. uh, you know, members of, so africa mentioned that they never had any bombings and shootings on that. uh, the most fear in cuba was very peaceful and people having a nice time. so i think this is one way of trying to one discredits the whole of the guns is obvious. initiative and also a one way of trying to port on the config,
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because probably it's benefiting of the interests. right. and now when it comes to the south african delegations plane from poland, it was prevented from crossing hungry aerospace to russia. what do you see as a possible reason for that? well, you know, um, 1st of all, we need to understand where the background is coming. so i do have 2 plans, one cutting this off again president and the other one, the cutting uh, cutting his uh, you know, a uh, security team on a journalist. you know this off, it got an, uh, a president is, is quite the lead of a huge country, very important country in africa. and as such, a huge delegation is, is, don't mind if you want and, you know, he was going to give a country, which is, you know, you know, which as security concerns at the moment. also, uh, the few weeks ago, uh, the united states of america. unless that is
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a joins big accused us right off the gulf, stop lighting we phones uh to shut off the door to, to russia. which is, is quite a lot less credible. and uh, i think they have some, of course, with the speculation that they, they want to do sanctions on on. so i for gun probably we have waiting to see either of them starting. we say probably that means that uh, you know, industrial complex uh you saw 3 days ago. oh, let us, let me cuz asking uh, white house to put sanctions on file for you. so this stopping on this plan is the 1st stage i looked at. i don't think we think that this is the festive trying to for us to you know, solve because they're listening. she, we say we thought i saw needs spending in that global community to write the context is good to remember. now when it comes to africa is over all overall on the world stage, we really seen them play in more increasing geo political role. so what are the
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chances for south africa is room of those, those piece plan to really succeed? and to be something that is actually considered between russia and ukraine? is this the guy is like once then in this uh, you know, conflict that is uh, you know, a very neutral and um, free guy. things now. uh, because of all easy, uh, increasing. uh, when you look at, uh, you know, the, the, is it cutting in on the global in architecture? uh, we have sort of, you know, uni pullout and that's basically benefits the west where the united states of america udall. i did what i think i should do and you know, i'll african, uh, country should live. so we faced conflict. we have seen a strength in dies between. i saw on the off the conditions, you know, they have right increasing roll on breaks in the global trade global politics. so also got coming up with that initiative and them being independent,
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all of the different things. one is a slap in the face of the usa, europe, but you'll see we got you uh, you know, as and also uh, you know, part of these crisis, you are not independent or very dependent to actually the ones who are using it. so you will have no legitimacy to, you know, to, to have a database and take part in that piece. that was reasons, that's why the african lee does. when the on this, i'm sure has really upset that we have stuff. i've never going to see that. you know, africa has as a, you know, equal global fucking out. so that's why you're seeing that, the frustrations on, you know, just want to stick to the point onto them in which all of all 4 of these config. yeah. you know, that they won't be on behalf of ukraine and you know, they're not be the best that you can union. i mean, it's, it's, it's sort of an open secret on the outside. you know, that's why everybody went to portland's, this african buildings discussed with british officials there. but just the
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frustration of the did a guessing hit, you know, presidency or i'm up. what's the, is the frustration of the, of, of the whole process and the people that are frustrating, don't process, don't want this conflict. and because i'm sure the mutual needs to ensure that i say is we can. and uh for them they think maybe that's how they're going to be good, but the offer got one to multiple out. now let's talk about zambia specifically and where they stand because they declared the position of neutrality on the training conflict. so has anything changed over the past few months? was i'm the means neutral when it comes to, to this conflict. but i would like to remind that each and every country in the world has been pretty shots do decide to uh with the with uh, justin this uh, small buick. you know, we saw when uh roughly, i mean uh uh for an a 1000 minutes. does it get a little sad to, to oh,
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started enough, we got this um the he, i lived in so africa we saw the i've over 6 pedals, theaters that us like basically says that a year and i am if i chief was also in zambia, just last week, very chic. uh you know, for the meanest always leaves i'm down, i'm going to, i'm in those countries close to the domain and the pro ration. so is that as i'm, that is quite it, being neutral in, in this conflict he's receiving huge, huge brezza from the west to, you know, to the tools to set. it's not active. uh, you know, i goodness, the i sounds i'm is, i'm good being in it's got into columbia, you know, a solution that sits in, well, we're trying to get his thoughts on what did we have wisdom did, chinese did, i would suddenly, and i know what the solution and i think funded able to to produce up. but of course, the, you know, because i'm in a government officials, i've made it very clear that the president, i've made it great be a lot to,
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as i'm getting men's neutral and is i'm get useful fees. and that's why others aren't getting president, is part of this delegation. now looking at the overall scale here, i mean, we work and we consider russia's historic ties of africa and the controversy around the african leaders visit to key. yeah. so who would you say is more likely to gain the confidence or support and do you see anything changing in the way that africa views this conflicts and russia and ukraine is individuals moving forward? i think uh, you know, when you look at to, off because this is, we've been living as, you know, and the nice vision software guys self on the off by site, you know, on, we all get an independence starting from the 60s. and the immediate to that happens when we develop strong ties with the events of it union after the fall of the soviet union and russia also to, to, towards europe. you know, started, you know, you know, engaging with everybody. and from up the lift off,
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we kind of beat by those ties us to the lots of to supports of because he'll sick the education to think that those students a lending for example, not funding visitors, but the width on that behind it has been funding uh, you know, uh the so called democracy and i forgot the silkwood transparency and we all know that all these foundations, george soros foundation and the foundation that, that nobody who was nobody the, nobody funds for zoom changes to enhance you know, you cannot make that, you know, pretty shown on, on domestic on countries and seems all about 50 is we have seen that there's nothing we, we are getting from bretton woods institutions. we are not the ones who does the, because on the outside. uh, even what is surprising that the younger generation wants to do it towards russia, thoughts, china, dogs. but as you in the to, you know, develop seen to do so. the voices can be, can be had. that's why i think everybody's always for multiple out of the we have
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for the vision because african countries want to be counted also on. this is a chance that they have seen that uh this time see if its on to the lifetime. so for the, for, for guns is uh, this offered tax id blessing in disguise because it gives off, it can come to the opportunity to, to take that a place in the global stage. if we move away from benton would restrict you on that . definitely off the ground countries are going to join breaks. we know the image that pops off the guys and breaks. we not zoom about with push towards, you know, uh you know, same thing ties with, with the dock side. global uh, both going was due out on the property close going what we, i'll send you that you've gotten the president speak also hide your production time district and ties. you know what his opinion can, you know, 10 years basically pro pro russia why? because african countries i'm just tired to be doing what's to do and uh, you know, um that was the one to take the right place in the global economic architecture and
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in global politics. yeah. now, when it comes to this baseline that was for ford, why do you think that ukraine is refused to even consider it as that plan was laid out by the african delegation in p as, as well. i think that it's even not quick to say you cannot do fuels because you can doesn't 5, it's on voice. you know, you can uh tons of i can start to do. so it's paul, i need to turn this off again. president clinton then pull on, stored, you'll put in what to do on the what the doors don't accept the deal on the, because uh, you know, your credit is not unfortunately independent at the moment. that's so much, heavily dependent on, you know, when on portland on noodle, you'll see that you know, your credit and proven, you know, taking, digging towards across the world, asking for weep, ones asking for on, uh, such uh,
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for those of us that understand of the config from, you know, for manual perspective, we actually, unsuspected, but uh, you know, uh as an, as you like presents an if you was going to refuse this deal. and that is what you did. you mentioned it immediately. uh, you know, uh the, the president's waiving for us to a new can and you know, you mentioned that, that not going to go with a deal. and unfortunately, he showed up lin from the history of african countries that you kind of be used to fight was by country because you saw it just seems that it's not that bad. it's the you print and people that, that bang. you can people, you know, i'm going to or monday or whatever. i don't think that we've been on monday to repay uh for the items that are getting the munitions. so i think the lend from soft because this to is, i'm get this 3. i'm not for cause this 3, but you cannot be used to fight other people's was you need to put your, your interest in on the 5th will people's interest. fist on,
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we hope we want to see what you know the outcomes will be, but the restaurants outcomes we know nobody can, can leave the new territories about. so never leave. i think uh, pardon me, because as the what would we we missed over 8 years old for the bombing and kidding if they could i some of the population in the dumb bus. so i knew a lot of people died, then nobody would want to give up their brothers to, to, to, to a country that is going to point you to victimizing them. that is going to continue . you know, i, selecting them, you can speak and you're on the active language and outside of the free times, we believe that's where we were. we were given english names or given english traditions and things like that. so we've, we've done the position before. so we, we, we, we know that what i do and so we just will, but you know, you can understand then you are the too also, right? so come on board and we can see this conflict. and so you know, together we can develop in a peaceful world. yeah, certainly
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a lot at stake here and we really appreciate you joining us to share your insight lube and have us ok, director of the graduate school of business at the university of zambia. thank you so much for your time. thank you. the 26th annual st. petersburg international economic form wraps up today in russia's northern capital friday. so i've bought them here for in case of the stages the main speaker. archie continues is exclusive coverage of russia's biggest economic event. the, the russian president touched upon a wide range of issues from economic cooperation to the situation on the front lines. a new frame. here are some of the key points from his speech as his mother. and let's have to be super familiar with the despise of the difficulties last year. we did not switch to the positive self isolation involved,
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but we expanded contacts with all reliable and responsible partners. and those countries in the region that act as the drivers of the world economy as home now. and i would like to emphasize that these and the markets of the future. everyone understands that full well because he does have these countries did not give in to the counties external pressure or a guy didn't know why someone else is, but rather by the national interest of comes to find you. the issue is that you crazy and using cycled strategic reserves, which consist of several elements. however, they haven't been successful in any area. and i think they, they lost as acute around one to 10 in comparison to the russian army. in terms of military equipments, they losing more and more every day medium longer, i'm going to hear you what it was this childhood. i've always had many jewish friends with me. they say zalinski is not secure to the is a disgrace of yours that there and is a compass is for other ones, considered heroes of ukraine today. they are those who, today's, the crating,
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the authorities and finding both individually and now are the only thing that we, can we not fight against russia is the country to suffer the most on this from. it will never forgive this. you see if this is not in the of nazi is and then one is 6, and then we have the right to consider that all talking to be non spa. ukraine is one of our key objects. i don't know if it is for zone, you don't know what those are business loan for. sure with the use of nuclear weapons is theoretically possible. but 1st of all, we don't have such a neat and secondly, the very fact of raising this issue reduces the possibility of lowering the threshold for the use of weapons. at the same time, we have many more weapons and that's of nato countries. they know days and all the time they try to persuade us to stop negotiations on the reduction screwed up and say, it was slow before them in st. petersburg, gathered 17000 purchase of us from 130 delegations from asia, africa, and latin america. here's our cheese, you know, new in our studio at the forum, reporting on how the event contributes to growing multi polarity of the 26th and
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petersburg and vessel economic form is into it's final date at through the boss at doors here because it is a huge facility over the last number of days helps the diplomats, scientists, public figures on presidents as well. a total of some, $17000.00 participants from over a $130.00 countries where here and that is a figure that if you're looking at some of the headlines in the west leading up to the event should not have happened. russian was supposed to be isolated, not open for business. if anything, this event shows that is the complete opposite at because people have been here thinking business deals at trying to find where the world sits at currently rushes place in the, in the global economy as well. or coming in search of deepening ties and, and making those contacts at which key hubs like this bring together the,
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the creatives, the entrepreneurs, to people who, who want to make a spark happen. and that's what we're seeing. it is an energy here, right? right. these days that going from one side of the spectrum, the other so many small and medium sized enterprises, russian businesses as finding an opening in the market. the props was there when the western problems were here, they've got a chance to show their worth and what they can bring to the market, as well as western currencies at we're losing their grip on russia. now that appears to be a global trend, as well, assuming the dollar eyes ation by loft ro trade from country the country. that being done with arch the global reserve currency out of the dollars saying that we can do a trade without the behemoth. and it will lead to bigger profits for all. well, just in terms of the audience here on,
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on the p to that are coming from the global size, asia, africa sites in central america. the, there is a crap thing. i, as i said, of energy. we also heard from the vice president of russia's chamber of commerce and industry who provided a picture of an investment prospects in russia for the bells ring and put it on both of you begin working on the introduction of a national raising of the investment attractiveness of russian greetings, the presentation of this reading took place at the forum yesterday. over the past you did, investment process has intensified. we now waking on the introduction of a mechanism which would eliminate all obstacles for the investment process when and to russian sanctions were introduced. we immediately realized that the sanctions were in a hindering, in normal operation of our fuel and that, and you, complex. now we know the huge interest of investors from a number of countries the night out of and rates you're in malaysia. we are
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creating a number of projects that will facilitate the search for baldness for companies previously, each company pool with a single or but now we're focused on the back can jointly during the st. petersburg for our 2 sat down with the russian foreign minister survey love rock. he said that western states continue refresher. other nations, in order to turn the against mosque out of the anglo saxons in the allies, are pressuring everyone they con, including our closest allies, such as the members of the collective security treaty organization. so using the arab states of the gulf and no exception to the methods used by the west, off, excuse the i say the sippy route. i've no of the to you see when they talk about these rules of which the international holding must be based a little slow. what they really mean is that take time to look at the colonial instincts, live at the expense of others. nothing house because they constantly claim that they are defending democracy and ukraine's defending the values of the western
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civilization. i've touched upon this many times because they only speak about democracy when they teach us how to live in your story. do you must hold elections . i say you must transfer a power from the ministry to the civilians or vice versa. it is that's. but whenever there is any talk of democracy on the international arena, the west shuts down just and doesn't want to discuss this anymore. and that's very telling. so you can watch the complete interview with our google abroad throughout the day here on our t as they turn to the channel as well. we continuing our coverage of the 26th annual st. petersburg, international economic for the ma, it's call for you on peacekeeping forces to leave the country without the delay, without, with the foreign minister saying they fell to deal with the current security challenges he was speaking during a you and session which was discussing prolonging the mission for another year my
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looters law. let me the government of molly calls for the withdrawal from a nice low without delay. when these most seems to have become part of the problem by fusing community tensions, excessive, baited by extremely serious allegations, which are highly did to man, it's also piece reconciliation and national confusion in molly. so the un mission was deployed to molly a decade ago to help the country and maintain security. following a cool in 2012 of the report shows the country's long been struggling with revel uprisings and attacks by terror groups. and the last 15 years, the ssl region that molly is a part of has seen a 2000 percent increase in terrorism and molly itself, the number of deaths as a result of terror attacks was up by 56 percent frustration i bought the declining security situation has seen protest on the streets, the situation is of change and money and including
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a population implementation agree on that. nothing has changed and money. and often they pushed a phrase to out of money. i see that they un knew that these would happen in terms of deadlines, because if it cannot change the situation, they would have to go. and this is low, surprising anyone about it. because uh, to be honest, the way to do the search see, believe the money in terms of 14, you had these out of money in the most of the cities i see people estimate. so what are they doing? the why they're not changing the situation. they say they're keeping peace. ok, it's a tipping fees. can you please remove those? you have these out of money that don't believe so like say i guess the maybe to
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have boots of the lease to have a web for people, but not really to keep my money seater as it was before they call. the president of iran is back on home soil following a tour of latin america. the troops, dozens of agreement signed with 3 allies who shared a wrong defiant span against western powers. as are to use use of drill only explains the president, raising his bag from his tore to 3000 in our great country. he's a historic tray that digits of as well, nicaragua and cuba. they want to do those countries definitely have a lot in common as on there you want to sanctions and all have been targeted by region change attempts. my washington services was it tries to build on this common ground to most of all sorts ties with like minded nations that are the same time are geographically close to the u. s. something which american officials have reacted to saying that grace is true demonstrates the failure of president july. it
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is not an american policy. so now he was trying to create a unified funds comprised of the sanctions, his nations, to define washington as pressures doing his work. a lot of the american trade appraisal. assign dozens of economic capital agreements in different fields from energy to id and mining to power plants to pay for future cooperation with that as well. the fuel pines, we signed 35 agreements and member on zip suff understandings with these 3 countries in the fields of energy, industry, mining, power plants and the subject. the have good capabilities in latin america like biotechnology. to want to warn you just in general, guess this besides voucher boost by that'll trade off from the car to $3000000.00 to $20000000000.00 and we're also $86.00 major corporation deals with him on several other agreements with maggie with the one the president said to confront
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the west side, there's no way to resist. if sometimes it's want to be our enemy, naturally we will conduct to resistance stones through goal and such an adversary have declared that in our ends, nation has acted on it. and now this resistance has been taken for by more countries was interest are completely aligned when he was a c, y, c. so that's why don't have i haven't comedy was viewed including their struggle for independence. they want to present. i said that he was a so called maxima, pressure campaign, against the wrong, has failed in the face of resistance. he said that this is thanks to constructive relations with the independent property, such as that as well. do you are and nature i us are really believes that it was times were those lot of american countries are not normal by the strategic census election as it was, president bracy said that it was
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a nice time gets economy to the 2015 deal with it was sent back to wash it fine destinations to interact with our partner with to neutralize the sanctions. and this seems to be perfectly matching the multiple order. it was looking to break it down to the house of its partners like russia and china, latin america under ron or not, they only global actors trying to shift away from western who gemini, is area in finance minister. so damascus is planning to apply to join booth and burke's group, along with the shanghai cooperation organization, syria and authorities have long referred to versus a just for us as an organization that brings mutual prosperity, especially to those comforts targeted by western sanctions. amenities expert we heard from believes that both syria and the berks countries would benefit from damascus joining the group. if it puts the test part of the global geopolitics, we see that the natural position of syria is on the side of the developing
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economies, especially to breaks countries. now that syria is coming out of the work and trying to liberate it's a gas pipelines, for example, or gas pills on the eastern shore of the euphrates that the americans are okay buying. if there's an opportunity for us to, we have to present itself on the ground to support of, of the words that it can play a role in, in changing the balance of power from a ton, which is in favor of the united states still into the other side that can bring into good can bring the bus to a month to pull the words i think the priorities would be from the brakes, countryside to invest in syria and stabilize the country. and hopes here to get rid of the american occupational forces for us that are ok. buying the gas fields, as i mentioned on the eastern shore of the faith is so that both syria and the greeks countries kind of mutual benefits from the candidacy or the syrian attempt or wish to join to fix congress june 16th known as youth day and
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south africa, to memorize a 1976 student uprising. the started as a simple protest and the township of so what up and later spread country, right. the so uprising has symbolized a fight of the black people against the system of a part hired for more than 4 decades. south african reporter got like, i'm assuming has more on this history to 1619 savings to 6 months. a significant sending points in the history of south africa. on this day when thousands of students comes to wait till the streets to protest against the educational he's been a part of the problem is not the so it's uprising, also known as you said, not only ignited wind speed resistance against racial segregation, but also highlights of the main top and let's say today in june, thousands of students decided to risk their lives and march peacefully to the state
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of georgia to express the satisfaction, educational injustices. however, the peaceful protest wants me to so forth from the i guess, rather put it in line and munitions that instead of 176 children killed. the total number of the tenants is ranging $600.00. now the seemed innocent young life in english ignited a fury of resistance. again, we are now living in different in a different time of 2023. when you realize in 1976, that particular that you need to have any drive and they did not want you wanted them to go in and that was the what did you find it to the freedoms were enjoying back to because of the increments from the past all the challenges that they had came to a.

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