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the methods, yes. these jets on capable of accommodating nuclear weapons. we only put in the state to data. expos, regularly meeting the security council format with 5 nuclear states are represented . we voice our concerns in the strongest terms. the americans tried to downplay the issue, saying, do you, where do you think we would surprise you? crime with jets that can carry nuclear weapons. we said that we are not going to think of systems on the front. these jacks will be able to detect the ones carrying nuclear weapons and we will react. this of course, is in the pub, you of a minute see, they know what to do. so, like you said, we will react with military technology. diplomatic relations are at the lowest point and the reaction is expected at sixteen's a product similar to technology. and so naturally, if we see these jets headed to ukraine and as a threat to us, we will react with military technology as well. mr. lever of, let's look at the bigger picture, the foreign ministry stated in the past that talks with key if can only happen if
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the new geo political reality is taken into account. what reality is that, and what is russia's play sentence of the war? that is why he's against this is a geo political was up eliminating rivals. that's how we see the situation. to resolve this situation, we need to keep in mind that we are dealing with a geo political conflict. that's a, it's an attempt to find the west to preserve its hedge. a monic position by all means stephen, through the death throes of the era in which it dominates, during the global arena. the attempt is futile. and we all know this, which is what will be the concrete realities on the ground to the giving you. these 1st realities are defined by the process is that take place on the ground by the full referendums held in the phone, you regions of russia, as well as by the decisions taken by the russian leadership russians federal assembly. this is number one, by the way, us for the realities on the ground. i'd like to remind you that back in late march already april 2022 president polluted was all safe for us. it was ready for tools
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and he made it very clear that we are not rejecting talks. but those who do need to understand is no longer they put all talks, the more difficult it will be for them to reach an agreement with us. as a general conceptual framework within which we exist today on an abroad, a geo political sense, this will warrant the need for addressing the issue of security guarantees. we wouldn't be prepared to let security guarantees be based on more pages and promises, or even documents of west mail for us. we must guarantee national security on our roads. and there was a 2nd to us geo political, a more comprehensive aspect to this. the global processes which the globalization that was imposed by the west, and primarily the us, including its instruments, which are still controlled by the u. s. and that causes allies like payment or shipping insurance mechanisms and so on and so forth. this globalization has ended today. there was an understanding that growth process is need to be regionalized
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and this vision prevails. this is what the shanghai cooperation organization and will generally the great to you ration partnership wrote about the president losing told about this several years ago. the russia is the on summit suggesting the old countries of this vast confident that i should use the golden nature given advantages to develop mutually beneficial logistics, financial transport, james, et cetera. and we already have stable contacts between the raising economic union and the shanghai corporation organization. i'm the association of south east asia nations, the level of secretary us and government delegations, so on some projects that becoming significant for the entire continent. one of them is based on the agreement signed between the youth on china, on the home and on his ation of our respective integration plans on the chinese belts and mode initiative. by the way, we have always stressed that we leave our doors open for all the countries of the region continent, including those states in europe. that may finally cross that it's more profitable
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to rely on natural processes. to be balance of all the visual schemes divided by the west to the detriment of its allies, false by washington to take part in these audiological and you political games. the world will be different and the process is we see unfolding today. well, wouldn't talk by the west response to rush of special minutes to operate actions when the extent to the challenges that they've frunner to. these process is clarity, show the autonomy and independence of any structures on the global arena. the of related to the west of becoming the main trend today. he's mister lever of the system of global mechanisms. defining the international set up is changing. you called this a new world order. let's talk about russia's relations with the arab states. could you please, 1st of all, comment on the rush, algeria summit, which was a very important event. and in particular, the meeting between president putin and president tony and also such highlights of
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the space 2023 as the visit of you, a president mohammed bins. i ad to the upstairs or step, i would say that this is a reflection of natural processes unfolding between rusher and the arab oil. for decades. it's a long time cordial partnerships. they still remember very well the role rusher played in the liberation of the arab countries and colonial oppression. and they are mindful of russia's policy in assisting the arab countries on their way to was nation state building, helping them create the foundations of economy and defense systems. i don't know if summer rush is relations without jerry or vivid examples. we helped out during friends since the very 1st day of that fight for independence. so when the french pulled out about julia, off with a piece of gold was signed. yesterday i talked to my account about algeria as foreign minister during the meeting of our country's president. and he told me that the french had withdrawn from algeria, leaving behind lots of mine fields and refused to provide the maps share. the
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location of the landline service and soviet suffers cleared the mine fields full out. you being friends is free 8 and they cleared all these territories whisking that lives, and many come back to engine is last night and lives during that mission. so this won't be forgotten because office they also we are the summit yesterday. amount to my take on the statements made by president macro and who more than once in different situations. voice is concerned about russia developing economic, committed to corporation with africa, including the arrow buffer. can countries, as he said, this wasn't right. and i, because the french president publicly refused to apologize for his country's colonial abuse about jerry, around these people during his recent visit to this african country. sure. so you see these colonial habits? oh, interesting. so i'm very strong frustrated. you can remember, but i will set you up with a flower garden and the rest of the world, a jungle full of uncivilized people, as of which is how traditions have alone glorious history. and those who think that
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such things are forgotten. i'm mistaken. i'll gravely mistaken. the good the country has done to others is remember, that is appreciated. and they are prepared to build the edifice of a new partnership on this historical foundations with us. l. g area is one of our key economic partners in africa. and i said, most important partner on the continent. algeria is probably our leading partner in terms of minute to technical co operation. and it confirmed his interest in developing this co operation, further during president to buena is visit to moscow. so it's a natural process. as for the united arab emirates relations, do not go back that far. they were established when we already had advanced relations with other our countries. there were times when we had some ideological differences with saudi arabia. i'm with the united arab emirates, but that's no longer the case o ties with the gulf countries off based on pragmatism. it was clear understanding of mutual benefits, a willingness to reconcile interest and find solutions that are acceptable to buy
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partners. i think outside with the united arab emirates has grown a record right. there are many ponds in terms of investments. in particular, they are very keen on investing in the north south covered all which will provide an alternative to the cities canal shows and competitive rates in the baltic sea to the indian ocean states. so there are many concrete proposals, but there is also a geo political aspect, was noting to me as a multi point of world is taking shape the outcome to use a key me aware of that role in the new international the they have a claim to be a major, powerful, influential center within this feature systems. we have a history of relations with the league of arab states and the co operation council for the arab states of the gulf in india. we have had ministerial forums both with the league of arab states on the gulf coast ration council. by the way, russian was hosting a meeting with the co operation counseling a month. we'd be happy just so you cover that. so we did it seem to use it in this
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context since the i'm or it's in the gulf. countries in general, seem to attach great importance to the development of relations with russia. do you feel, do you see that the anglo saxons? first of all, all the usa and the united kingdom are pursuing their usual policy as in other regions where they put pressure on other countries that are friendly to russia and try to prevent them from establishing new contacts and partnerships, strengthening the existing ones. and you said to me, and these are not the only countries facing pressure on the anglo saxons in the allies are pressuring everyone they con, including our closest allies, such as the members of the collective secuity treaty organizations. and the arab states of the gulf and no exception with the methods used by the west, off, excuse the i say, the sippy route. i have no other to you see when they talk about these rules of which the international order must be based on what they really mean is that big time. colonial instincts live at the expense of others. nothing else. but they
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constantly claim that they are defending democracy and ukraine's defending the values of the western civilization. when you, 1st of all, if they really said that way, i cannot be convinced that they are holding on to nazi views. because saying that wisdom values are being protected in ukraine is the same a saying, no, it says a is your mode of existence. but when they speak about democracy or i've touched up on this many times because they only speak about democracy when they teach others how to live in your story, do you must hold elections. i say you must transfer a power from the minute to, to the civilians. or vice versa. but whenever there was any talk of democracy on the international arena, the west shuts down and doesn't want to discuss this. and that's very telling me, because i've said many times at the you and charles that clearly states that every country should respect. so when equality of, of the country is the west is not following this principle. so, so let's look at the specific geo political confrontation that is happening right
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now. as a result of the war, the west waged against us. for many years following the coons president proved to them myself, willing to security need to guarantees including russian security. the rights of russian people living in ukraine needed guarantees of respect. nobody listen to us, those rights were violated. knows what policy we showed is which we call them everyone to abide by the men's grievance. the voice, the concerns of warnings, and other was we made opposition, clever known to the world. we explained our perspective in detail many times right before the special ministry, operations of the president delivered especially the address of re explain the reasons why we had no other choice, the west content directions. but everyone else who followed those processes was also entitled to their own opinion. and those opinions must be respected as well, because everyone has the right to develop that perspective use that. we keep explaining our approach motives and actions. the west doesn't bother to explain
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anything. it just sends is emissaries to capitals of all countries, saudi arabia, and this, do you know how to narrow band routes? central asian african, unlocked in american states, a dom loans that, that governments condemn russia, joined us on sions and vote the way they're told by the west. this is disrespect, disrespect towards countries that want to figure things out for themselves and assess the consequences of that decisions when they come. so the risk pressure, that's a big deal. but the fact that nobody just states from what we now call with a delay, without joining assumptions and most of the shows that these attempts to pressure them off. utah seduced, seduce difficult, sir, gave victoria of which on to african affairs. if i may, earlier, you stated quite clearly that russia is grateful to african countries for not joining the rest of the big campaign launched in the west. this question is very simple. in short, what is the rest of giving africans in return? and is there a clear strategy for establishing and developing new contacts?
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let's move off of the 1st rush to africa summit, which took place and sought to you. on october, the 19th, we created a special committee that he's engaged in implementing the agreements reached at that time, the service, the association of economic cooperation with african states. we have joined the african export import bank. there are a number of promising projects that will be implemented now. but here you see notes about what we're giving him a ton and is the formulation of the question is not quite correct from my point of view. by the way, when my friends here tell me and confidential conversations about how the west black males and twist their owns, demos, i stopped communicating with us and stopped trading with us. i awesome. i'm what does it west of you and what to precisely what we talking about here, should they say in return, they promise us that we won't be punished, likes nothing to do you understand what this is for them and our case, everything should be mutually beneficial and interesting, and we don't hardly in our relations with africans like our opponent as days. as
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i've already said, we look for projects that meet the interest of both sides looks of usually the companies to invite to a business proposal, areas and sectors of the economies that they would like to see as invest in. i can only kind of just get some stuff to that colleagues and agree on terms and conditions. look at your, i believe this process is very healthy as it shows a balance of interest of opens and participants. util. you've been always throw me mr. lever of my last question is going to be of our major events and major new players brakes. and with the air of aspect, if i may, as we know, several air of countries wants to join the group. sorry, ravia united of the merits, algeria, egypt. do you think it is possible for these countries to become bricks, members, and if it does happen, what will be their contribution to breaks? will strengthen the organization's position and open up new prospect. the contribution is obvious. you see the session of these new member states will mean
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the brick skits representatives of the world's major civilization. the arable is lumnick civilization in a broader sense. no doubt this will benefit the multi polar foundations of the block to involve naturally objectively. as for the candidate stair, all very strong countries, saudi arabia, united arab emirates, algeria are in egypt, all of them. and they only does to some extent in the arab and islamic world. this would undoubtedly enrich briggs on you see, we will be prepared to look for a solution quickly because there was nothing to argue about him in terms of each country's weight and the right to be represented at the global level. the can be no doubt's here. however, there is the rule of consensus and breaks on today, which is given all the a session requests you mentioned coming in from various continents breaks. as long as the procedure coordinating its members state's position on the groups expansion . it is expected that the latest will get expert reports and further actions in this matter of the upcoming brick,
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south african summit to be held in august. you suggest it's a very sensitive issue, of course, because the country is reputation is that state k to if a state the price of joy and it gets no wrong. so this was a good portion, but it says we can understand this very well. and as i said, we do support briggs expansion, so that'd be the mr. lab rolls. thank you so much for this interview and for your insight. let's thank you. the, the hi. i'm accepted and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department to see i a weapons bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and
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wave of nato's eastwood expansion. none of the sailors cuz of this. the main longest fence is deal i am. i felt that i see like that by now as a country, it's a as the so me that me it if so we get back. i saw zap, i did do my i just bought the pre show the name. yeah. it's the lawyers, now beach, but i see, but i see us play up by choice. some of which is strongly in the early ninety's hungry was a country with the west view of russia to day star of disagreements left over from the soviet union. and the why if you know, and you some of them that you or somebody, i don't want to see if you look at somebody in the compare the police report more than those. what i see is great. and i did as a, it's a police degree. those months with the,
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[000:00:00;00] the, after we withdrew troops from g f, as promised, the key of authorities as their patrons usually do, through it all into the waste basket of history. were of the guarantees that they will not continue to abandon such agreements. glad to be put in displaying a key piece feel that he says he have signed and then spread under pressure from his western patron. small russian meantime, posts an african peacekeeping delegation after it's returned from ukraine. at least 40 people, mostly children are killed and dozens of others, abducted and named sojourn to attack on a school. in uganda. everyone's president wraps up
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a tour of latin america signing dozens of deals with what he calls like minded nations. laying the groundwork for a new promotion, what the always working hard to give you old side of today's top stories and with signed here to talk about on this program, let's go straight into it right now. so the russian president vladimir putin basically showing proof of a crucial piece deal that he says he have signed and then scrapped up on pressure from his western sponsors. he made those comments while hosting an african peacekeeping delegation. in some cases we did not agree with you quite inside that this deal would be confidential, but we also never disclosed it or commented on it. the draft of this agreement was initialed by representative of the head of the negotiating group from
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t of he put his signature there. here it is when he used it's called the treaty on permanent neutrality and guarantees for the security of ukraine. it contains 18 articles and there was also an appendix. this provisions confirmed the armed forces and many other things. everything is written there down to units of military equipment and personnel of the armed forces. here's the document, it is initial, but after we withdrew troops from t of as promised, the key of authorities, as their patrons usually do, through it all into the waste basket of history. some were of the guarantees that they will not continue to abandon such agreements. i think it's quite remarkable that lodging there put in, felt the need to bring this agreement to his meeting with the african leaders. in my opinion, it shows the significance. he attaches to these mediation efforts as well as rushes reputation because uh,
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i think what he's trying to do is to counter west the narrative that the russian military alteration in ukraine came absolutely on per bolt on the western media and western officials like to present it as a, this cruel attempt to grab your print, the entire true, where in fact uh, in the view of the russian president, what russia does is defending its own legitimate security concerns in, in ukraine. and he was very straightforward in describing russian perspectives in front of the african leaders. he said that the, uh, that agreement that he actually demonstrates it to them had this title on permanent neutrality and security guarantees it to ukraine. and that it was essentially the status was a secure distribution in europe, off to the end of the cold war. now uh, according to the rest of the president, uh, the kremlin remains open to o. uh,
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peace facilitation initiatives. as long as they are on, on the principle of fairness and recognition, of legitimate security interest of all sides. um, he's saying the african leaders for understanding the context, all of that conflict um not submitting to western pressure. now the african guess on the side side that they also have a practical, uh, national uh, security uh, interest in solving the ukrainian conflict because africa happens to be one of the most affected by uh, the uh, food crisis. um the uh, the rising inflation when it comes to commodities when it comes to fertilizers when it comes to brains. here is uh, what the african leaders had to say during his meeting with the russian president. it has provoked problems in the field defendants and food security and
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unprecedented crisis in its nature. and he showed you already to support task in removing the obstacle solve this conflict. thanks to you and all the actors like to t a. m p u and we managed to pause the grain deal. i am confident that russia, one of the foremost nations of the un and permanent manville the security council, will observe the you and child to as a continent we are being negatively affected in terms of why economies. the prices of commodities have gone up, particularly grain and fertilizer in the process of fuel have also gone off. and this is a consequence of the war that is ongoing. we would like to see further engagements with regards to the processes that will lead to
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the end of this will. still, we decided to come to your country at this moment as a delegation that represents the african continent. and thus, who'd like to demonstrate to you our friendship, which has always existed between russia and africa. furthermore, we came to listen to you as who used to hear the voice of the russian people. today we're facing these crisis. not only does it have an impact on 2 friendly brotherly neighboring countries, but it also has repercussions for the whole world. and the particular it has an impact on our african continent for the time being uh, the so called black sea deal, which uh, foresees the uninhibited expert. the few crania and wade and russian greens and fertilizers to the global markets uh is working on paper. but the russian side of the deal is being actively sabotaged by western countries out there was one other important subject to that one and mentioned that came out as
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a result in this meeting and at it was on the subject of refugees, especially children that were removed from your brain or that change that location . as you may know, the international criminal court earlier issued an arrest war on for the russian president during the charges of forcefully removing the children from your praying . and one of the points of the peace proposal that was brought by the african delegation here to st. petersburg concluded the return of those children uh to their families, to which i didn't put inside the russian never objected to that. and many of the children that were moved to russia from the conflict area were our friends, a boy has with the children, they are sacred. we were taking them out of the complex zone, saving their lives and their health. no one intended to separate children from their families. we were transferring entire orphanages. this was done as usually legally,
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as they were officially represented by the heads of those establishments. we've never been against children, reuniting with their families in case their relatives appear. there are no obstacles to that. there have been none, and there will never be any. so, so you machine, as the russian leader reiterated, russian remains open to amy piece per foot pulse when it comes to ukraine or when it comes to the way international system should be around here. uh, stress that uh, every country has a key interest in being solver and in having its territorial integrity protected. but the principles of the un charter should apply equally to old. they should not be cherry pick um that if all countries subscribe to the same standard or, or the same international, las rather than cherry picked rules selected by certain group of countries,
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them and only them security and peace could be insurance for all what russia is far i mean it's so so good allow for off he got involved, he's welcome. they 10 point piece proposal from the south africa's latest saying it reflects principles that must go support please don't put them up for that. which though this present from a fully announced 10 closest, our colleagues identify and among the well known 12 points of the chinese proposal, those parts that are close to their position. they include guaranteeing that there are no double standards. that all human principles are respected. that there are no unilateral sanctions or attempts to ensure one's own security at the expense of the security of others. those are the fundamental approaches that we share. our partners from the african union have shown an understanding of the true causes of the crisis created by the west. it is necessary to get out of the situation by address some of these causes through the development of concrete actions to
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eliminate them. these are what has been undermining justifiable security on the european continent for many years. what as we were talking on and see why they've been the hubble calling the university of zambia, who, who says that the geo political importance of the african continent is growing. and african countries, independence me coming up with their own piece initiative for ukraine might have come, was a bit of a surprise to southern west in pounds. i think now if it goes to what you are increasing, when you look at, you know, the, the, the kind of, you know, create a global architecture. we have sort of, you know, uni, pull our world. and that's basically benefits the west where the united states of america udall i but could dictate what i forgot to do and you know, our african countries would live. so we faced conflict. we often strengthened ties between ad i saw on the often conditions where, you know, they have right increasing roll of brakes in the global trade,
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