i come from those types of women that say they've always been very strong. and they've been my example. i think there's a lot of commonalities here between africa and russia. would actually say that africa, like russia is a she, it has and you know, vast resources and norms for technology in all areas. uh, lots of ginia are also to use, you know, huge expansive potential. but i think in both cases that potential remains ida not fully realized or sometimes exploited by the outside or what can possibly change that in your view. yeah, actually you as soon as you caught it, probably the reason why i have this is this. hey, ashley, it's recognition and feel at home in the issue is because in the same way, like i say it's my own, but bush go knows about the ship because of me. she passed away

a month of they came back from russia and she knew of our it's true. so where are you going? this time must be russian. then i'm sure him. and when i came says bring me those suites of different have life suites. i recently do teaching women, for instance when, cuz when they say, oh, no one mainstream media about russia, which is just conflict with ukraine. um, then we come and say this is and then the like, new new new shows and say google the, the, the, the 1st is that like which is like, wow, so this type goes to bed. you know, female pilots had about them in china with heads about what's in africa in a difference in kenya, there were women that recall the way older women during conflicts that where have they minors to defeats the british because these women are the ones

that somebody think oh, some great news at home. these are the good news that are actually able to hire a point in since that we've been blanket and nobody suspect and they conduct at the serious because they defended. uh oh wow. you literally started doing the only the explanation and the condition of the storms that makes that which is women don't, is that it is. this is what we tried to highlight and saying, hey, you know, there's a thing that's in that you come to the table and nobody else left the chair for you . you bring your own cheque and you have a right to get as a woman where you are sitting in the bedroom and you're on the clothes the board members have headed to do something in terms of just don't and can get us coffee. i don't jump and i'm like, i'm, well i don't i unless if i'm in a more where i'm thinking it is the way it is off and then when it's out of compliance rather than virtually no, no, no, i don't i, i'm like okay, i also need coffee kind of things anyway. now we have to take a short break,

another customer break with a short break for an advertising broke. he'll be back in just a few moments, stay to the so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy, even foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. the only personally, i'm going to resist, i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very unclear to get a time time to sit down and talk the

the welcome back to one's a 4 inch mr. how's the miami founder and chief executive officer of the latest in the front lines? let him know how many you just before the break we were talking about this basic dignity. and i think this is, this is very present in the one in danger politics because 1st of all, we've been under several decades or some would even say century's alpha very exploded as capitalism that treated the land and treated people around the world in this very sort of male dominating fashion. you know, you do what i say, i get all the benefits and you say why? and if you don't stay quiet, you will face um, you know,

pretty aggressive consequences. and i'm tying that at least in my uh, perceptions you not only to rushes entanglement than your print, but to many of the conflicts around the world where you know, the, the powerful, the powers that be, come and try to dictate the terms. julie, people leave on that plan. how do you see these process going? do you think there's any change and how the receiving side is responding to that? women have always been they, as i said, and in terms of the land, it is most the women since the beginning of time. but what the land to fits the families. it is the women when there's any disposition the dictatorship of any thoughts. it is only the women that have to bring out it is the women that have to bring up men that'd be strong enough to to, to,

to handle whatever the precious of all of the was. so ladies in the front line, literally like there is nothing wrong in being in the front line and in a lot of issues like same business and every country is do all right, sometimes the numbers in my country for instance, i've always been taught effects that's we've had administered of defense i remember travelling with her overseas, someone and somebody in the ask is did you send me the minutes? the difference is the minister of defense is it moves the friends that you face. and in that veteran made all sort of the question becomes a you can she handle where sometimes you say, even if these are made of general motors in minnesota, if i say i suggest that they should be going this way. but i guess there's

sometimes, as, as, as women you miss this is just need to just take all the advice from lives because this is a male dominated area. but this is a very interesting subject. i mean, it's like a logical in progress. if you look at the some of the, let's say west and the female leaders, therefore more aggressive than the male counterparts. some of them are the champions of supplying weapons and whining the warranty, old. and i remember, i mean, my, uh, biggest draw pricing. i feel this day it was hillary clinton, last thing and her cnn interview. i've been use of walmart a good out as a humane murder. so i wonder if these uh, female, or women empowerment discourse can sometimes be used and explored is warranty or political purposes. because we value women because they bring something, you know, and another aspect of human psychology or of human experience. but they become just

like man, or even worse than man was benefits. this is really what i said, but the whole thing of women in strains does not have to come. so i don't want to be muscular as, as a strong woman. i still enjoyed the privilege of a man opening the door for reasons for me or standing on a chair for me. i, it's not about the competition of either. you know, must, can i do? like i said before it see if i have we work together in this situation with respect one another. we both bring value met to be i remember that a clinton thing, it's still hence me like actually it was like one is this has to have children and grandchildren after this 1020 years from now. when she finds out that she jo, double from human beings, life like you're just,

i'm not even an animal. but i think the, the reason for that, i mean, psychologically speaking is a total sort of dissociation from your own feelings from your own emotions, from your own body. and this is what being on the front side sometimes does women because we do have this amazing, important talent for related. and this integration supporting live connecting to each other, even irrationally with whom russian women come south. things that the man sometimes do not pick up, but i think the world is in huge needle fetch values. how do you think it could be a broad back instead of um, you know, this hierarchical structure, all one told him down commands the bylaws has to be that women should always their lives. and why? even when a male child has from the fest, preston, they think it's my mom and the treasure mom, because your mom brings that which is about

a been strong without necessarily 13 and based on what still nothing. there's just one. i don't know exactly north of the because that gets explored to, to a point where it even makes enemies amongst one another because it's about who's going to be, you know, a fight to for this space. non strong stress does not have to be something that is i don't know how it like i was making an example that i don't have to put me in a board richie with me and i'm expecting because i'm the woman i must go make to with the terms that's coming, especially those of the african continent. amazing women. absolutely. and not just women. i think some man as well because uh, we are recording this interview on the eve of uh, a big african delegation expected here in st. petersburg and russia to hopefully meet the, the,

your cram conflict from what i know on the do details. i still scarce there today, they're in care of so they, they want to reach to, you know, at least 2 sides of this conflict. i'm not sure they are going to travel to the west, which perhaps would be necessary as well. but in your view, what do you think? how do you, seeing the african perspective can help us deal with this style made um, actually in saying the today in my country is what you call in june 16. it is the uprising of the young people one day the took to the streets and said enough is enough because of um the f r state system. and as, as we speak today, we still refer to people like myself as the class of 76. cuz i was like young person, those years and it was a team we, we had the young man that will stand in the front and be the ones that throw that

rocks, the better of a gun and the women we were right, but as young girls be and we went all the way the women when, when things go to the west, you know the women equally good church. the women were the ones also had left the country like for instance, and got assistance from like the former soviet union for training. they train many tally as well, and so it was in 2 weeks when men and women can work together without this is leticia or anybody using that's true and, and the advantage of those someone else. i mean, it is the women that go out to said you go out there, we're here for years. so it's always been a 2 more thing. it's just one way i come from. so today it is a very special david. so i remember, i mean i know that somebody was born on this, the poor guy when i went out due to as well. and he was from that country,

eagles on you can, you celebrate the day of a physical jihad, we've been cost for movement from the, from this it has the memories of, of, of, of defiance from young students. so it is a very complex, but it has to be phased because things as, as the stands i can check, we need one another things that i mean in 5 to, for somebody to of africa and, and, and all of a countries before residency is a, is going to be have to have to be about 2 weeks now. so new to, and i think one of the african advantages is that many african people in african leaders have had a close brush with reality. they know what hardship is. they know what the war is. they know what the reconciliation is and how hard it is and the, you know, the practical work that if you need to invest into that, then my hope was this for now, is that the, the africans can bring some, a practical experience. since that of let's say some abstract ideas about how the

world is supposed to be. but this is my question uh many uh, less than it is once you make the world a better place. but it's often times leads to worse outcomes that we have before. for example, libby, i mean if used to be a relatively prosperous country, now it's an open the air market. i mean, there are people traded in some areas there. is there any hold for embracing this team spirit and internationally in your view or is it just the pipe id on my part is what we really hope for us. but a because honestly conflict by nature. i look pleasant on all sides as never really and we're not as and the flame of that comes in. but we hope especially the ladies, the front line chapel,

the women bring is to say that can be conflict resolutions. without this thing of you know, without maybe you don't mean, but like you said, women bring a different flavor when men sometimes bring, let me see who's got the lowest christmas time. but then in the middle may, who is it still going to be the women and the children that pay the prize of function. but they told me you don't even understand. i mean a few years ago and was here with the same issue with your price. my on since the been grew up and i very point is kind of in life environment. me ask the question. i was in the square beautiful flowers and she says, where are you? because i had trouble so much they could never keep up for me. and she said, we're a 7 bullshit. she says really bad places like mother. and i realized and i said, why is this? when i think of course as the last year you pay. so sometimes what and then i made

a if i was that i would bring my children, my grandchildren to visit georgia. so it's never always about what your friends they and women need to be. are. the ones that fits is that are conflict cs that we would need to be part of the solution. yeah. and the human to connect. sure. and you don't even think about using one connection here. what my last question and i also hoping to bring my son to uh, south africa and uh, broadly, uh, more uh more why more widely around the continent. and i just came from a trip there. and i was struck by how of nelson mandela is still quoted then the same as the remark in an interview, when an american, the analysts ask, why would south africa supports fidel castro and warm? i've been asking, and he said that, you know, we don't assume that you are and him is the, our enemies. and there was a lot of dignity and a lot of sort of silver in speaking. so in spirit, in,

in that phrase, do you think it's a, it's having a rainy sensor across the continent. it is because i came with the delegation of women who as well i'm in the files around is the right. yeah. you pray. like i said with my system that i have and they i hear and they're like, wait a minute. there's one, there's this to me, these that people are 0 as you're the funding this picture to was so low. we've told you in the middle of a was or we can kind of see it's a process like thinking and you know that it pushed on the people around the world that somehow some people are not really no. i'm telling you guys when you, when is the thing russian and somebody i've, i've, i've been both those kind of emotions sometimes just out of inches by fits in the plane. i'm coming from job or connecting into bias business to somebody who's going somewhere else because you buy a car next the world and this person. oh,

by the way, within my space plan, just as the where are you going to rush you and then the face changes. so what are you doing there? i mean, when i came for the energy at forum, you know, to but it's show me ages that's owned by women that i, i live turned in. smart. not with my tickets go says you would have to find an indemnity video into a was. and then i phones, this person who knows at the airport and i said, i'm actually about to put a flight most school. and, but i, i, i'm the student. and as i was taking pictures i would sense that it is okay. yeah, i am in the last year, so it to love which is woman, but have to try. and i'm hoping that the, this a n for that you're talking about a few kids have been coming here, like i say, especially in africa because of the guy has been through for hundreds of years. and i am liking the idea that there were 40 african countries for the do more recently

. and they won't be and probably more than 40 coming for the applicant, russia. but anyway, i'm hoping there be enough leading ladies that would work in partnership and then bring that which is not okay. let's see who's got more muscles than who into thing . let's see. who has ran to be the bigger and oldest. my goodness. i know something like that. oh, it's been great pleasure talking to you. thank you very much so much i come in on. i've been here and thank you for watching hope to share again and was a part of the, [000:00:00;00]

the adult after we withdrew truth from keith as promised, the key of authorities as their patrons usually do, through it all into the waste basket of history. where of the guarantee that they will not continue to abandon such agreements, showing it off of the whole world to see climate opposing and reviewing a treaty that ensure ukraine's neutrality to didn't saying key of signed it and then scrapped it under pressure from southern and western brackets, and that all happens as rusher is hosting an african peacekeeping delegation. fresh back from the pre molly holds a vote to revise is called the ocean in favor of civilian room,

off the use of military governance on political upon the part of the multi polar wells continues to flourish. india is prime minister, proposes the entire african union to be given full membership to the g. 20. the answer with all of your top stories corralled and ready to go. it's all to you. it's a natural and most go. we are pushing back against the main stream, the vladimir putin on veiling a treaty that ensured ukraine's neutrality, which he says key have agreed to last year in the early stages of the conflict. but then for some reason, it scrapped it under pressure from certain western sponsors of the russian president's comments came while hosting an african peacekeeping delegation in st. petersburg. i did not agree with you quite inside that this deal would be confidential, but we also never disclosed it or commented on it. the draft of this agreement was

initialed by representative of the head of the negotiating group, from ts comes on. he put his signature there. here it is on here. it's called the treaty on permanent neutrality and guarantees for the security of ukraine. it contains 18 articles and there was also an appendix. this provisions confirmed the armed forces and many other things. everything is written there down to units of military equipment and personnel of the armed forces. here's the document, it is initial, but after we withdrew troops from t f, as promised. the key of authorities, as their patrons usually do, through it all into the waste basket of history. some were of the guarantees that they will not continue to abandon such agreements. so the treaty document, or excuse me, revealed by president prudent, basically showed that ukraine had agreed to reduce its ami it's military equipment

and confirm its permanent neutrality with russia, america, the u. k. china and france o listed as guarantors. but of course, as long as the new guys bars johnson and the bite and white house that deliberately scuffled those peaceful. and we start talking with international consulting early rozmini's. and he agrees that washington island london did have a hand in the neutrality deal being rejected. as, according to him, he says they want to defeat russia by using ukraine. as we see from the, the draft agreement that president clinton showed in the african leaders. there was agreement going on early on in the defense like the early stages. it was a settlement that basically was approved that just had to be finalized the wording and final signature. but uh, but then again we had uh the un unannounced surprises inside mr. johnson. and i'm

sure we had phone calls coming from washington. and lo and behold, overnight, the agreement with withdrawn. and there's a no real, real serious discuss that. so i think uh, unless you have the us, uh, maybe lender to some degree unless those 2 are in agreement with the settlement. and nothing's going to happen or, and if you listen to nestor, blinking, whatever they're proposing is unrealistic. it's a nonstarter. it provides too many recei conditions. it basically is a laying out a plan. the rest of it has to surrender, and it does not provide any type of, uh, address any of russia's needs. and that's why it's got us into this to begin with. well meanwhile, on saturday, our african leaders express the positions on ukraine. in fact, the south african president called on both sides to de escalate. and the peace plan put forward by the south african president. it was given a warm reception, for example, by russia's foreign minister. please enter my for the president from

a photos and now and then close. this article makes identified among the well known 12 points of the chinese proposal. those bars that are close to their position. they include guaranteeing that there are no double standards that all un principal, so i respected that there are no unilateral sanctions or attempts to ensure one's own security at the expense of the security of others. those are the fundamental approaches that we share. our partners from the african union have shown an understanding of the true causes of the crisis created by the west. it is necessary to get out of this situation by dressing these causes through the development of concrete actions to eliminate them. these are what has been undermining justifiable security on the european counts and for many years ukraine in contrast, says african states don't even have the power. okay, ability to resolve the conflict. i say that the visa of this african delegation is basically using this way to visit to a well as

a say to pursue their own geo political goals. have a listen for yourself. if it comes from the law to the african delegation, had no goal for settling the conflict or finding the solution. obviously it is not, their task is not on their level or their competency. they just want to be on the information agenda and resolve their own issues. like increasing the amount of resources they receive primarily from russia, including food supplies. the most important thing that they had to do was that the information task in favor of russia by saying they don't see any me. so i on the air that it was enough to traction a fabrication. this was a primitive attempt to win at information warfare. so, you know, earlier we was speaking to audrey, a political analyst at john mulanda. we suggested why kids continue to reject various plans of whether or not they come from africa, china or you from the pope, a. jonathan beacon printer, glenn said, um, well,

i'm not in favor of peace. why not in favor of a ceasefire? that shouldn't be happening with euclid. so that should be, that is a senior sports person. for principal. you don't want to do anything that is good to do. we've a piece as far as i said, this concept, the west was a, this is what we've been waiting for. will be putting money. we've been popping the military hardwick to benefit the military industrial complex. so it's worth nothing to do with you. great. everything is good to do with what washington, london, brussels, whatever that they want to achieve. but it's mostly suddenly healthy. the actual city is that it's a few click. that's the unfortunate part of this country. from the g 20 to the g 21. india is prime minister mode. it has moved to include the african union in the group of 20 in this continued transition to a more multi polar p, a moody has written to his counterparts and the g 20 proposing for the african

union to be given full membership of the grouping. edit september somebody, it's a new deputy overall to of course one or enjoying a sharma with the towns a tremendous in the range and more of these, taking a significant step enhance the effort goes voice on the global stage use which ended was g 20 gone to about that african union to be given full membership at the upcoming g 20 summit, which will be will switch by and you'll jenny in september and i'll ask you in the middle who you did, you can always or 50 countries in india for you that their voice little soul should be hard on the g 20 platform. remember india? oh yeah, this your head also hosted the voice of the global south summit in january, but india research to old 120 con fees to your bumper baby shoes so that india can cool laces. and bring it on the g 20. so that fall off the south, which is largely the developing was the under develop load also the one which is

largely under the presented on file for the global platforms. where is through the g 20? uh, india wants to be the voice in the being the developing countries you've sofa know also last week. and y'all had posted an indian african box to ship summit, where the florida for administrative india is ation guards highlighted of the goal of africa in the shaping of the global dot india. and it's important that our african partners appreciate this. for india, the rise of africa is key to global pre abundance of india engagement with africa as we go one of the last few years at this move by farming to sort of the country not being more di to include the african union and the g. 20 block is one you to select to bring the c 20 policy. remember, india has reached out to more than $120.00 countries that the global solves to

confuse that. vast strong being we saw several issues, issues in the a wants to highlight on and the g to indeed that song issues that are leading the developing in the developed world. for example, the old price is the fuel prices, and now she prices, india wants to bring all. what do you this on the platform later in september when the a will be hosting the war lead to us in new delhi or so this proposal is by the time industry of the country a really a step forward in equilibrium and includes the global pro oh, yeah, my colleague, and by that time i me, i spoke with a pair of guests and they said that including african states and the g. 20 is not any fair. it's also in line with today's new global reality of multi polarity.