tv Cross Talk RT June 19, 2023 2:30pm-3:00pm EDT
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it does not support taiwan independence and it does not see conflict with china. as opposed to live now to see dtn cars from the dong sway. thanks so much for joining us here today of tina. could you tell us a little the main highlights of the tools between present she and secondary blinking these as well. thanks for having me. um, i think the meeting between chinese president, she and the secretary of state and to me blinking is more of a meeting or protocol if, if you have to say, you know, i'm this afternoon when you know everybody is like waiting to see whether a president she will host a blink and the a in the end it'd be the meeting eventually happened. well, according to i to, to the chinese official read out that the, you know, the president, she said to a secretary blinking bad to both of a chinese senior. i'm the diplomat wong, he and the for a minister jingle had described their talks. we that blink and as candid in depth
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and constructive. and he also uh, be a presence. she also reiterated that the 2 sides that have to agree follow through the common understandings that are made between chinese president she and president bind and that the both of them reached to embody last november. and you know, the, the 2 sides also made progress and reached up raymond, on some specific issues are earlier. so, and that he said, and i quote on the state to state interactions should always be based on mutual respect and sincerity. and i hope that the secretary blinked him through this visit, could make positive contributions to stabilizing china us relations. so i think of the, the, the, the, most of the details and the concrete and movements between china in the us are discussed through the meetings by bloomington and wong e, as well as teaching dollars for president. she's meeting with the billing to is
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more of like a meeting for protocol. so he's a big presence. she has summarized all the highlights and of the main points that of the 2 sides need to moving forward. right, well we know that those are the chinese firm is i'm lincoln met that they talk about different things. so to say that again, sorry, we know the, the, the ties farm is to and as many things and meant also they talk about different things also. yeah. i think a, well the, the meeting between uh, the secretary blink and, and the chinese for a ministry and go has like the last 2 to 4 or most 8 hours that include a working day. not basically they have the boat, the 2 sides had agreed on some specific issues. for example, both sides all agreed to boost our to improve the, to have more direct a flight director, business wise between china in the us and also both sides. i had agreed to increase
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the numbers of international students to each of the countries and you know that and also the tie one, the evidence will the i talked to the agenda of the gene gum had to reiterated that tie. one question is the core issue over china's core interest is so you know, you, these are, these are the, the issues that has been raised and, and also some specific issues has been a breed of between the meeting, through the meeting between june gone and the blink and however, you know, i feel like the dominant to view here in china is more inclined to, to the usa as, as 6 for a company cation. however, on the other side, they are just like, you know, pushing, pushing to judge and to so for example, the, on the other side, the us has slapped sanctions on chinese companies are even pushed allies to restrict the semi conduct
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a tech and exports to china. and even rallied some advanced economies to come to what you sees as pages, economical, colors and, and, and also signed a new trade deal with the tie was. so all these actions that have been, promote in the badging to question the, by the end. mysteries is the 70 a long story here while i have you here. what do you make is the timing here with a breakdown? was supposed to come in february, but there was this weather balloons scandal. do you like any of the timing or is it just part of the course? well, i think the timing is also a interesting and go to look at this meeting. you know, china is obviously very much aware that the us is headed into a presidential election cycle ahead of the next years to vote, which may see more hawkish rhetoric a gives debating to intensified further. and that means, you know, the clock is striking. the, the basic of a political tolerance, asia in the united states appears to be so severe that as bad if secretary blankets
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visit were to be delayed again or delayed further, it will be very difficult for the, by the administration to find another suitable opportunity this year. to improve the relations with china, x and downsize agency and cost one. and thank you so much for joining us today here . it's a pleasure to look and see if i was going to be a time. but who analysts, alex reports of, i believe's washington's movement, is in the china region make blinking different magic objectives in beijing redemptive. it's in a blink of an eye that so much attention. china is going to be put on it. i did not see any red carpet being rolled out for anthony in his, i guess a humiliation tour as i call it. i mean, where is joe biden in this, i mean, shouldn't he be visiting a china to try to work this out? uh, we put a, uh, a, you know,
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diplomatic person in charge here and the blinking and he's scared of an air balloon a few months ago. so i don't see much is gonna come from this at all. it would be like having a war ships off uh, you know, the west coast of california. uh, that would never happen. uh from, you know, chinese military or its navy would not to put its destroyers just off the shores of, you know, los angeles. it would be an absolute ludicrous move, but yet, here we see the americans being very provocative. tra trying to see how close and how productive they can get to china. and i don't know, we could see a mistake potentially happened in the future. you don't have arrows and guitar all the next path in a trend is shaping the middle east, west. the rising demo, mazda of relations between the 2 countries. duration of ties represents the will of both countries, leaders to strength and joint, our collaboration added see the aspirations of both brotherly peoples. saudi arabia,
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the you, a bottom right. i mean dip severed old times with the cuts are in 2017 of accusations it's supported, terrorism is, doha has denied and the tale n. u am disease. resume book this week. it has been a general soil in relation to the middle east states with i would that be an encore reason, the restoring time for 9 years of tensions syria has had the time to return to the arab league. i haven't seen the breakthrough in relation to here as well. i'm savvy, re better on i've also both a piece off of decades of hostilities. this is rivalry is that have government regional for years and have been up ended. i spoke to a senior research of the divide public policy research center who wasn't surprised by that. they just moved as a reasons being showing signs in that direction for some time. and i believe the genuine because it really falls in line with the was clear of, uh,
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the escalation and restoring relations between the countries that i the icon to the gulf countries on the asian countries, the past a year or so. uh, also a 2nd come monday site and see if the uh, the complex. so the uh, also trying to play a role on the nation. and i already know to add to this way. the the, and the part is, is the concept of the ukraine and the dresser, and the wisdom countries and to de escalate, also on the nice 11. so i think that the nations between the and the united i have, and i mean it's got to be seen from just that asians between 2 countries. it's uh, a and i was, you know, of the, and you strategic. i didn't the reason to play
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a bigger one item on the age of the nice and then add to disease stability and to see the economy. and a, one of the economy comes back on track because of the use of that complex and wars . and i, the wars or long this was between countries, i'm the, it, the, the, me get the going on, the, and the economy cube hasn't changed to the african states, propose piece fine buttons are the vacation is up to, in the own do, but who goals the the, the african delegation had no golf course. definitely the conflict is finding a solution. obviously it is not, they are tacitly, it's not on their level or their competency. do they just want to be on the formation agenda and resolve their own issues like increasing the amount of resources they receive primarily from russia, including foods you want. the most important thing that they have to do with the
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information task in favor of rush by saying they don't see in the me. so i own the air that it all was enough. attraction for fabricated piece was a primitive attempt to win at the information warfare that c o 3 months is. yeah. and then the asians visit the key was mon bikes and somebody creating the officials must go ahead targeted the capital with miss alden, drums. and the lesson media was quick to echo the accusations with the south african presidential spokes lives and said he had. and so nothing dismissing it as misinformation. i didn't see any explosion or hate an explosion. that's what we say . no, we are left in the morning, a technician today. yes, we went to put you at and in the time we arrived and the time we went to put you in fact, we did not witness any explosion. we did not have to ask and the sorry, no, we didn't hear it. but did you go to bump schultz or today?
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no, no, no, i didn't go to for the present was taken this around. 100 people in good in gentleness were held in poland for 3 days. that was of the claims that a few south african officials, they're provided possible for strip searched by police meetings. so accusations of racism. buyer of offers is head of security also says those that remained on the painted suitable, entirely as it was only preventing people from leaving the ankle if they were carrying weapons. while right off of this is a security seat was detained in poland. the african peacekeeping delegation visited keven, then travel to russia's northern capital to meet with president puts him during the main scene present, puts in on valid train fee to ensure you crazy trying to enlist in russia. the u. s . u k. china i'm falls as guarantors. do you have agreed to the deal in the early stages of the conflict according to person, but then scraps it under pressure from is less than brackets. we did not agree with
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you quite inside that the steel would be confidential, but we also never disclosed it or commented on it. it will go away. the draft of this agreement was initialed by representative of the head of the negotiating group frontier. com. so he put his signature there. here it is when he is, it's called the treaty on permanent neutrality and guarantees for the security of ukraine. it contains 18 articles and there was also an appendix. this provisions concern the armed forces and many other things. everything is written there down to units of military equipment and personnel of the armed forces. here's the document, it is initial, but after we withdrew troops from t f, as promised with the key of authorities as their patrons usually do. through it all into the waste basket of history. were of the guarantees that they will not
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continue to abandon such agreements. as plus live allows this sunday times dennis of mind a cause who is as the trouble of only a thing that will stop divide publish authorities. thanks so much for joining us. so on that can tell us more about the incident and how the vents unfolded. um hi, how are you? thank you so much for having me. a new show. so i can tell you that the truth was, well, there was signs that the chip wasn't going to go well from the unsafe in that uh, the dates before we even list the dates, kept changing. um, so initially it was supposed to leave about 2 weeks ago, and on the sunday we were gonna leave who it was. suddenly we were told that its postponed, and then the presidency issued a sort of like a new program. and then the website and the president to attend an integration in the area, then he had to be in turkey pool and at the event that week,
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and then he was also going to host, i think, and single pull him into. so president that following week, and so i was like okay, well how, how were they able to reschedule all of this? it's such short notice, but i didn't think much of it. and then when we asked the president to can, we writes about the postponement. we were told, no, it's a highly sensitive trip, and we are not allowed to write about what was being done. okay, so they, we waited, we continued to get these as we're told that we needed to get the premium, the polish, and the russian visa. and so we went about that and stood read, and then we were told that we were going to be the monday of the 12th. and then that monday, the 12th, we will be in the morning on what time we're going to meet for the slides. we're told that we're going to be flying with the south african east service so that we'll be catching a lift with some of the presidents security that needed to go ahead. right. and so um, bit later we received the message that no the actually leaving the next day,
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which was the tuesday. we're told to be at the about the proof of a base interest for you in the morning. and then so we also did buy and then when we, in fact one of these proponents are happening, like you can leave home and, and you're going to the airport. so when you get a message, oh um our cool time has changed. so then you turn back home and you wait for the export time. so then um the tuesday morning we are right they, they were told no, the flights not in the east thing. and then at some point we thought actually this is not happening. we are not going the trip as well. anyways on um tuesday evening and i still think that it was still possible, but i think we officially list like midnight. yeah. at midnight. so like the hours of wednesday. so the flight leaves um and we told them about the 2 for going to goes or tumbled. so the international equity adrian is big fuel. then we fuel and then we leave in the 80 hours, so everything is green. well, it's just like
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a normal trip because i've done this a lot of times as a presidency, correspondence i'm traveling all over the world. i've done it many times, so everything's going fine. and so maybe 2 hours before we reach for so this really strange an incident happened. so i was monitoring the trip planned on my screen on the is the 8 flights. and um, the flight is going on route and then it looks like it's turning back. so as it got to the left, i'm to the around the intent in the lead for a space over like the mid it to rainy and see if it travels. and it turns back and then it stops by route in circles, garage, or else around had that this was weird um, but they don't like it. maybe there's some explanation. so then it goes back on quotes, and then the pilot then explained to us that, you know, we were playing around in circles. and that's this is because we didn't receive
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periods from the attendance. and so the chip goes on and then we end up and then it goes on, goes on, and we land as well. so it's at the airports, k, the know we excited our blended mission. you know, the big story really land. we noticed that the, the police arrive like on the tarmac, they come to the next, the police vehicles come to we pods or do we not talk next to the rest of the it costs we've talked very very far. um. like with a cargo it's so almost like we would like next door to that the date of airplane. right. of sphere. 5 and 8. i was like okay, cool. then i didn't think so much with, so we start to wait to, to be peeved on, on what's happening. and at this time, everybody then starts to get the local sim card so that we can get connected with our colleagues and all parents back home. and as soon as we are connected, we,
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we see tweets that el presidente had arrived to pull it away or just like so confused at what is happening because the prison isn't cooling. we are here, but we are not this coverage. we have still in the flight, right? and then we lost the pieces, what's going on and they like, you know, you can report that piece arrive, but don't write about the mission. and so we're like, okay, everybody starts finding that the prism is right. it's just the which you visit with the foolish government and it is you be heating to to result while to take a train to keep you right. right. right. and then the left side it was yeah. but the kids in scott, literally like this is look very strange. the honda way is we're still on the plane at this stage. i mean you send people, you got the same cards. did you get? yeah, take those with you. i did this involved from the plane or are you still on the plane? we still on the plane, so we this time we didn't, somebody came up with the really clear everything. oh, oh,
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discovered the eastern. so like electronics. so you don't need to, you can do it by your using your phone and the internet. and so we all got the e sims and this allowed us to be uh, reachable by phone. or you can reach back home where you can file and what. so we spent on the slides and all of this information is filtering through our phones on the sites um and then, but all of it is just to straight to keep the prism causes any leaves of it. and then on the side, it will also see like the coolest media is outside taking pictures. and i'm wondering to myself, what is happening? it's good or mine is a no telling you why you are being detained at this point. so we were told why we were being detained. we just, we just sat on the plane, the presidency wasn't saying much. oh, the one person is the person that was responsible, as from the presidency, not the spokes present that went with the prison. this, the person that was the official that was responsible for us,
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was it explaining what was the problem? but while we was sitting in the plane, interestingly, we sold that. i don't know if you saw the pictures of the carriages that were were carried out. i mean, it was like over the news. so we noticed that while we was sitting there, they opened the claim and they removed about it's about 12 been 12 or 15, and they took that. but we didn't think, i don't know. i don't know what it was, i thought maybe maybe this is our luggage or why with a removing the carriages or the containments from the it across. okay. anyways, then we continue. then it starts like to get a late and we sitting there was sitting there and um, one of our colleagues was supposed to cover the keys like um was told that he's going to miss it can't make the cruise the prism in the live, the a port and made his way to restore, to catch a train to keep the other heads of states. and so we told that his the trainings at
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about 6 o'clock in the evening and daily it's 6 o'clock strides and the clinic realizes, oh my goodness, his extra, we not going to, he's not going to make it in all mind the crude or the hosp, the team that was i had been all have chosen to cover the, which is majority 2 of us had chosen to cover the russian league. are we thinking? no, we're still fine. we're going to make it to st. petersburg on time. and the mission we at least we're going to be able to cover that late of the trip anyways. everything with being a photo presidents. true. we're seeing through social media, so the presidency continues to treat that the president is on the train. we see the videos of payment as a, if the states and then even to the point where he arrives and change. we also receive as doing the, the social media, which is always sitting there and it starts to get like really hot. and we were told that, oh wait. so before like it got too late. that date we see the pilots and the crew
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go to the back. and they talking, talking, talking, and we not really sure what they talking about in groups. i didn't, there's an announcement that was made after the discussion and then the pilot announces that um, because of aviation regulations, he needs to go to a gates, the required amount of grace. and so we're like, okay, this is strange. so he's gonna leave us in the plane and uh was okay, we're not an evasion experts. i don't, i didn't know that they have to get a specific out an amount of hours of race before it can fly. so we told the dependent, clinical and raised some of the crew members are going to go. i'm going to stay with us from the slides and the going to continue with the service and the live in the pony. and i finally decided for the ad side, move on out, but we're going to the view on our interview and the 2nd. so thanks for joining me today on my, on the news i'll, i will see you again say know that thanks again for that. but just around so
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this news i'll do check, i'll see dot com for more news stories. also the just the ones that i will be back on this over there is aspect of the draft and on and it will come. my name is a fancy way to the full name will be k now, and i'm glad to have the addition of by some that okay, now she's exhilarating. so you didn't meet the much some youtube. well, you're going to have a candidate conversation concerning the various visuals and you don't want to come talk. thank you very much, francis. thank you very much. and i am very delighted to be here with you because i have a i should say profound designation for the rest of the tunnel. and i might have to go to work and i'm very pleased to be here and i will try to answer your questions as can you please post?
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nope, your exam and see you am bussey's speech up to the page. sees the width of 8 us time. is it hoping for my color? nice. can you give it specific examples of this kind of whole body that are not well known today? maybe international community? i think it is a scientifically stablish fact that with the keep sort of helping the developing countries, i'm africa specifically because there are several factors that we should look at. first, it is, i should say, despite a deal of prices, because the commodities produced by the developing countries and the buy africa out of price, much low than the end product, which is often made in the width from the commodities imported from the developing world. and there are
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a deliberate efforts to keep the situation to the situation because there are barriers on trades for the commodities or for the developing countries to reach a well with markets and uh, with these, with this disparity. if this i should say, a truly zation of under development because the developing countries have very little chance to accumulate enough capital to invest their level wise and the to develop apart from that if you look i just mentioned create uh the w tools and fuels as he seems to be quite so fair, i should say, because it's a trade with nobody, it isn't a song. but if you think of a, it's like a functional mode ring, a super heavy weights professional books. and the say ok,
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you are on equal footing with the small to. i'm the not issues and the sometimes sick guy who has no fighting experience. because on the surface it may look fair, but of course, the, the, the economies of the most are much stronger and they are much more q for when treat and that these way uh, it's still, again, uh if these, um, an example of, uh, unfair exchange of and unfair to the distribution of wills globally. if you look also at the cutter to the existing, which uh, the actual property or did you see, again, it did say the biased towards the each other,
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the poor because not on the lease. uh uh, the developing countries have enough access to modern technologies and the developments of science science, but sometimes they have given them difficulties using commercially they are on that additional mortgage. and the just on top of which is money is finance because well, the money is being painted by the west and these are much more expensive to the developing countries and to isaac. that means that the quote uh, the producers of economic operators in the global north have access to much cheaper money and much cheaper to create them loans of to develop to the enterprise. yeah, you have to pay double people, the price again. it, these, it is unfair and it also is,
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if it is an example of the late, it'll be hit save in your walk. most of the time you talk me that if these entities are from various african countries, now how do they feel about their waste current policies? well, i would actually physically to speak on behalf of the countries because i haven't been everywhere but or for your right. i some i speak to them and, and they're also very different. uh, the epic epic. these very diverse con, to man. uh, so uh and the culture of the for them, the calling them is that a different uh, the traditions of the for them. and also the differences within societies, because if you speak to government officials, that's one thing. then you'll speak to uh, uh,
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through intellectual university professors. it's another thing when you speak to the coma mom before 9 she, it's a, it's a sort of the being. so i will visit the, however, i should say that my impression, if i may generalize a little bit, is that the africans, uh, a few uh, quite a bit short changed by the west and the that's why you have the debate on the do you do a lot as a shipment gain, you know, for example, and the many other countries and the old. so i use floating around or for on how to make this world. and it's kind of economic set up for better for the benefit of the facts. and do they believe that they would keep them as they qualify? maybe according to you, to probe remotes, the prevailing prevailing opinion or prevailing impression that i get from my
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very exciting conversations with ethic guns. is that these, do you feel that the, with these not treating them as equals and the, it's a, it is just the fact of life. you excellent. see what the contrast. yeah. or far african countries that the waste can not, in terms of the uh, economy, economy corporation we can offer as a highly developed a very well very diversified economy. we've advanced technologies. we can offer everything that the developing world needs. uh and we can offer its on the much better terms than.
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