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tv   Cross Talk  RT  June 19, 2023 6:30pm-7:00pm EDT

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to democratic faction, the israeli government has taken everything up to the next level. yesterday they have given us all you to a racist radical smote rich to have free hand at expanding the luxury legitimate. the settlement activities in the occupied west bank was part of the international committee of this precision and the legality in terms of international law such an action. second, the daily incursions and the unprecedented number of palestinian casualties of is rarely thought the murders, extrajudicial executions. that is carried out by this is really government. and also there's another indication that this government will stop at nothing to keep itself in, di peoplesoft and government with no any more repercussions. no political repercussions, especially that the united states of america demand supporter of the occupation of
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the state of a 0 to our land or passing the land is pretty much quiet. and no matter what is where the boom does all the united states says, basically it's gonna dimension. and the worry, and some of that language that does not really mean anything on the ground. while the is raised by the us, the odds are still flowing into the state or is you have to commit to more more crimes against people. the city of janine is full of all the citizens. most of them are innocent. the civilians on north end of both in the terrorist attacks a but the, the use rarely army. the claims that these, the terrorist groups the say on militia as i use the, the civilians as human shields. and actually the i, the inside the houses, the inside the schools inside the mosque and the using the civilian display as a, as a shield as a human shield. this is what causes a,
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the injuries of innocence. caesar in the armies, very careful, especially on the way medical teams are involved. but you know, sometimes there were some incidents in the past that the medical of the teams, the inc ambulance is used to a high those level a d a. i'm the government eh, and have them escaped inside. the ambulance is, is so way, is the idea of steel does not sure that if a student ambulance is by, they are trying to it to check them and track a possible terrorist. heidi inside the ambulances. all right, to china now where president treating ping cold in the us, to refrain from humming badging. his rights and interests of the said during tolts with the us secretary of state. and the blinking says america is not seeking a confrontation with china. that is basically a statement that, but it does seem to contradict the pretty standard rhetoric coming out of
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washington these days in the u. s. stands by the commitments made by president biden, namely, the us does not seek a new cold war. it does not seem to change china system, it's alliances are not directed at china. it does not support taiwan independence and it does not exceed conflict with china. on the other side, the us has slapped sanctions on change. companies are even pushed allies to restrict the semi conductor tech exports to china and even rallied some advanced economies to come through what he sees as pages, economical, colors, and, and, and also signed a new trade deal with taiwan. so all these actions have promoted a badging to question the bite and ministrations. disparity president, she said to a secretary blinking bad to both of a chinese senior. i'm an employee at wong e and the for a minister shingle had described their talks. we the blinking as candid in depth and constructive and he also uh, be
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a presence. she also reiterated that the 2 sides that have to agree follow through the common understandings that are made between chinese president she and president bind and that the both of them reach the in bali last november. and you know, the, the 2 sides also made progress and reached up stream and all some specific issues are arlia. so, and that he said, and i quote on the state to state interactions should always be based on mutual respect and sincerity. and i hope that the secretary blinked him through this visit, can make positive contributions to stabilizing china us relations. so i think of the, the, the, the most of the details and the concrete and movements between china and the us are discussed to, of, through the meetings bible inc and, and wong e, as well as touching dollars for president. she's meeting with the billing to is more of like a meeting for protocol. so he's a big presence. she has summarized all the highlights and of the main points that
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of the 2 sides need to moving forward. my colleague, amount of time on the i spoke with a trend to show a political, i'm listening senior fellow with the pen go institution who pulls out what he says . all us publications aimed at china a yeah. speaking all of the nice words like the, you know, i, the us, eliza is and also targeting china. you i don't think ethically by that line by piece of the speaker life that i do pointed out this a oh we are not seeking confrontation with not speaking a new court ball in china. i assess a little uh the b. so i think you can look at, it wasn't be on to leave it and you know, many of the times you can describe that as a, you know, the, ah 16 in the, i see. can you email it to or in a new quote or, or containment policy example, the almost daily practice of the spice and the civilian, you know,
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the very most detective baldor view, no aircraft that we're mentally a fan of disability since, i mean china will not tolerate that kind of behavior, and of course, the, obviously over taiwan, you know, the political support high level, was it mike and that's fine. that's it. you're lucky there. co opted and that at the supplies that the relationship between the 2 countries that there were tons of the story now in the south african airplane that was recently grounded in poland. the president of that, i'm opposed to a security team being stranded as he was in k o proposing a peace initiative. and then he travelled on to rupture. well, as we understand about a 100 people, including john list were held for 3 days, it would claims that a few south african officials with diplomatic tossed bolts were even strip searched . it's tough to understand exactly what happened, but we did manage to speak with amanda hall is the one of the journalists who wants to time. and we, we land. we noticed that the, the police arrive,
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like on the tarmac, the come to the elect, the police vehicles come to we, we will talk was starting to hear that the kids in scott did really like, this is look very strange. so we still on the flights at this point. so we were told while we were being detained, and one of our colleagues was supposed to come of a dick. he was told that he's going to miss it. can't make the quiz the piece of indeed the a port in made his way to restore, to catch a train, to keep the other. he's a states, everything we're seeing a photo presidents true. when seen through social media at around midnight, somebody came to call us from our seats. and when we looked outside was the heat of the prison security major general while you're rude. and he said he wants to show us that the police government and is threatening to confiscate with him. and he accused this government of sabotaging into around
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a poor says if can industry to piece mission after that we called call call. and then we had run out of food by this time. so then i'm not sure when it was nice of them, but us like meals from food. and so then we step in the morning. we was full way too much much later on. and i think it was like off at about 1 o'clock, the negotiations that had had succeeded and we were told that we couldn't get off the pain and we're going to spend the night and also in a hotel. and then we're going to leave the next day, which is sunday, used to day. so at the end of the day, i kept it dismiss the africa piece. and if and introduce the timing of the delegations, leaders are simply that to well pursue their own political interest. the most important things that they have to do was the, the information test in favor of russia by saying they don't see in the me. so i on
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the air that it was enough to attraction fabrication, this was a primitive attempt to win at information warfare of all the african delegations visit the key was mind by claims from ukraine and officials at moscow was all of a sudden targeting the capital with miss austin, drones with the media. when was up with those accusations as well, but strangely enough, the south african presidential spokes person who was there on the ground said that he heard and saw nothing. he dismissed all of it as much information. i didn't see any explosion or had an explosion. that's what do we say? no, we have that in the morning. a decision today? yes, we went to put you in in the time we arrived and the time we went to put you in fact, we did not witness any exclusive. we did not have to ask and look. sorry. no, we didn't hear it. but did you go to bump shelter today? no, no, no,
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i didn't go to the present. it was taken dead. and when it comes to the south, african, the airplane being grounded in poland. a john with amanda, who is a, again, suspects that was perhaps a, some scholars dugger re behind the c that we would be assigned to cover this the mission. and as we was back in the plate. so everybody that was covering things by us and the vision and the minutes to get more than one week or so i just put, i put the specter to assist this disastrous. i definitely think this was part of a big deal political issue. and also south africa continues to find itself in a predicament because of it's not the lines, thoughts on the i'm a do think that i don't know how much the waste is involved. but i do think that within one to 2, i don't know what i think we've seen tennis will advocate, but it did feel like pull it obviously was not happy to do this and it was it,
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it seems that we were we were being stopped or do we will be prevented from going ahead with the vision that we went to, going to be that we would be at the airport to change life and take a slice. so we're going to take this to the results so we wouldn't going to spend the night. we would stadium food for the men in which they treated us. when we raise suspicions that this would be bigger than just, you know, the countries stopping us for a related issue. the presentations was 16 that we didn't have the correct image. political piece of the dramatic cost boards and tenants instead of a rich. but i mean, i certainly think it'd be good and just, and you know, a bunch of generous, be stuck in the same as safety. meanwhile, the nato secretary general has dismissed a ceasefire as an option to address the ukrainian conflict. we all want this war to ends, but
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a just peace cannot mean freezing the conflict and accepting a deal dictated by russia. well, that's was basically echoing the words of the ukrainian presidents the landscape who shrugged off the 10 point plan proposed by several run my focus on the african nations. well basically sticking to end the conflict policies, shape bows. now it takes to look at why keeps keeps rejecting any number of peace initiatives, whether from china or africa, or even from the pope. so if it comes to the law to the african delegation, had no goal for settling the conflict or finding a solution. obviously it is not, their task is not on their level or their competency. they just want to be on the information agenda and resolve their own issues like increasing the amount of resources they receive primarily from russia, included food supplies. so what is the african piece delegation winds up? it's a visit the key evan st. petersburg. it seems you crying in the leg of the tour was probably due to failure. long before it even started,
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would follow the mirrors. the last confirming the key of the parent war addiction continues to dominate the agenda. i clearly said several times at our meeting the new allow any negotiations on russia now when the occupier is on our land, a reasonable doubt of to freeze the pain and suffering. we need reopen the model and there's no real withdrawal and russian troops from our entire land and 2 of the predictable war hawks, the big names instrumental in stoking this conflict in a lining up behind the on p piece. move it, peddling a false narrative that any settlement the ends, the fighting will be bad for ukraine. ignoring the grim reality that the alternative is probably ukraine's complete an order the fees. we believe the prerequisites a meaningful diplomacy and real peace is a stronger ukraine, capable of detouring and defending against any future aggression. those calling for peace. that is really a ceasefire. i should recognize, but it's not to justin doable peace. no one wants peace more than president zalinski and the people of ukraine. of course, the reality remains,
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that is not african companies weeping. vast prophets from the conflict in ukraine. is it? no, it's nato's vass military industrial complex. that's on to a winner with the grimy nexus between american politics and profit, ensuring that this terrible piece word is kept firmly out of the landscape briefing notes. let's face it the last time he was allowed to negotiate. he needed the single sign a piece deal. we did not agree with you quite inside that this deal would be confidential, but we also never disclosed it or commented on it. the draft of this agreement was initialed by representative of the head of the negotiating group from ts. he put his signature there. here it is when he is, it's called the treaty on permanent neutrality and guarantees for the security of ukraine. it contains 18 articles and there was also an appendix. this provisions
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confirmed the armed forces and many other things. everything is written there down to units of military equipment and personnel of the armed forces. here's the document, it is initial, but after we withdrew troops from t f, as promised. the key of authorities, as their patrons usually do, through it all into the waste basket of history. some were of the guarantees that they will not continue to abandon such agreements the door considering the limits the deal would have put on the size of the ukrainian army. it's hardly surprising that your claims to biggest arm suppliers, the americans, and the brits both kept the deal and want him to fight on. after all, it's only you praise and russians dying while london and washington speaking weapons majors cash in commentary means that you green is using its own weapons less and less often what else? it is increasingly using weapons that western countries are providing. while this conflict began with the ukranian army being supported by nato,
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it's now nato being supported by what's left of ukrainian military and savvy for your client. it seems the perpetual war cold in washington and london have bondage proxy and from even mentioning a peace deal with russia. and why is not surprising? well, that's easy, as i say in washington, it's their blood an arrow bullets. we spoke with a journalist, mike jones, who says that as a conflict shows no signs of slowing down, it does seem there are certain policies, apparently wedding to drag it out. this is for the same reasons, the, they'll say that and also the policy to the conflicts. and yet suddenly we have the said parties dictating to ukraine whether or not they can accept these deals. it's old speaking from one side of the mouth and the actions not matching with woods. they are huge play shoes and monetary interests. there is no off ramp, as we've seen politically. there's also no upfront financially for these invest in investments that they've made, which is being paid for in the blood of ukrainians. i honestly don't believe that
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is any motivation to resolve the conflict other than i'm repeating ridiculous claims. as they have been saying, it's unknown, the end a wing crime years are tend to ukraine. things that really delusional dreams stolen back again, talking on the same lines of trying to dictate peace to russia somehow. unfortunately, these people don't seem to understand how games are played, or even who can dictate terms of these points. it's very clear in the latest days from there for us, we see that it's very much a rush or the is in control. and the sooner they realize it, the better for everyone involved in my opinion, a top indian official in charge of renewable resources as a choose the us and e u. of if paul chrissy in the green agendas. he says that the west is an acting protectionist policies that undermine emerging economies, and that by hitting the global efforts to transition to clean our energy. this protectionism,
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i saw that in the inflation reduction act in the united states. i see that in this green hydrogen auction in europe. so we've had the developed world lecturing the rest of the world on how important free trade is. and here they themselves are directing barriers. so his criticism came just days off their 5 minutes on their end dro modi's visit to washington. this week. we also took issue with western leaders quoting for coal to be completely phased out because coal is india is primary source of electric power. nevertheless, india, the world's most populous country, has i'm precious plans to reduce the share of colon power generation by about 20 percent in the not too distant future, what it's cost, lifestyle, to retire, and indian career diplomats over that you've secret. joining us here on the, on the international very well welcome. so in a very good evening to you as well. i know you'll be monitoring the story in the is renewable energy minister saying that america and the you of basically practicing protectionist measures and essentially are hidden during the global efforts to
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transition to clean up green energy is. is there any truth behind those claims that have you read into it? where, you know, energy is a critical for any country without a cheap and affordable energy no country can grow. and the development of the west has benefited from this. over the decades. you see russia is, is prospering because because access to cheap energy and you will see the oil producing countries that so well the, so any country which has access to cheap energy can grow. if you don't have it, you won't grow and learn. yeah. it is. because we are looking at developing our economy, it's a question of inflation. it's the question of a foreign exchange or comic growth. so we have to, why are being conscious of the need to uh,
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to move to let's green the energy. and this is what prime minister has said that we'd like to get to the next 0 by 2070. but we can all sort of compromise agreement simply because the west is using these energy arguments as a kind of a red heading. is it kind of a protectionist measure? and we have the same thing. we're having the same thing with this degree. i apologize for jumping in, but you know, after africa, the delegation from africa into saint petersburg, we used to leave us in petersburg, economic for, and we had some guys complaining about this whole green agenda. 2030. that like guys, you know, in africa over there are still places where we don't even have electricity, we don't have the ability to, you know, right now, in many parts of the continent to move to this whole green agenda. but let's just say 60, what do you think about the timing here? you know this, this top indian official accusing america in the us double standards or hit proceed when it comes to this green agenda, this green initiative. but um, and the thing about the timing of this, i mean moody right now, is arriving. and washington, and why did you lose a while as the us administration is trying to get closer to india on us for digit
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lever? there are a lot of a vested interest in the united states in the west, in general. uh which uh, which do not want uh, uh, which offers want to have some pressure point against india and uh, these lobbies will keep looking. ringback you know, it's also a question of protecting the market because there is the w t o n. all kinds of, of caveats have been introduced to your bill, say, well, you know, you conduct spoke to us unless you meet certain energy default uh, emission standards. this is just a way of imposing a duty on a product. so of course they don't uh, fulfill their obligations, which they have undertaken to give finance to the developing countries to help them to make the transition. and they're all the take you order, for example,
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why is europe the reopening solve the nuclear plants and going back to cool and. ringback for to make a big who, how about the green energy you but the greens and file are in germany, but when it comes to the interest they will do whatever they can to ensure that they can amik closest thought affected. and they want to uh, yeah. like, yeah, should, should pick up the, but also obviously it's on the part of taking involved is also a protectionist policies, as i think you're also alluding to that, that, that's involved here as well. i mean, you know, you go back to the kyoto protocol, for example, the go to protocol, will these countries signing on to reduce that greenhouse gas emissions and all that. but you're going to get these special tokens, or special points or credits with a cuter protocol. but some countries was selling credits and buying credit, so people could it bit more. no, he gas is so, you know, it's, as you see, i think was an awful lot of part of taking involved here as well. interesting. you told me sounds of mr. security on nuclear energy, it's nuclear energy,
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a russia is building a lot of nuclear power plants and many different parts of the world these days. but also russia exports a lot of coal. what do you think is the future maybe nuclear energy is perhaps safer? some say than cold, clean around you know, we've had a few accidents including the, in the former soviet union and then we had in japan. and i think a new seeing what's going on around is up the roads. you a nuclear, prolonged. obviously there's a lot of public concern about nuclear energy. i don't think there is. uh, any easy way out of my own view is that to be sure to look more at gas, which is a much clean up fuel. and we should look clean, cool. cold technologies, countries like india and those were trying to warm up times to should look at wind and solar energy. we on the introduction to the solar lines. so we need to work on all of these, but i'm afraid that for the next few decades there will be no getting away from the
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tradition of fuels. you raised your site and you say the next few decades for the agenda or as opposed to be in the next few years, or actually particularly, i wish we have more time. we're tied indian korea different about joining us here. we're knology international, a real pleasure. i hope to see you soon. thank you. thank you for joining us. ro, analogy international. we all backed up at the top of the a very good afternoon and welcome my name is a fancy way to the full name will be k now, and i'm glad to have a day and i should know by some that okay, now she's exhilarating. if you do me the much, some youtube, well, you're going to have a kind of difficult to buy, say, shown concerning the various visuals and you don't want her to come talk. thank you very much. frances, thank you very much. and i am very delighted to be here with you because i have a and i should say the following designation for the rest of the tunnel
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and my at your work. and i'm very pleased to be here and i will try to answer your questions as can you please post your exam and see you may in bussey's speech up to the page sees the width of 8 us time. is it hoping for my niece? can you give it specific examples of these kind of pro buddy that are not well known to the maybe international community? i think it is a scientifically established fact that the width for keeps scrubbing the developing countries in africa specifically because there are several factors that we should look at. first, it is uh, i should say, despite a deal of prices. because the commodities produced by developing countries and the buy africa are priced much low. uh then the end product,
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which is often made in the width from the commodities imported from the developing world. and there are a deliberate efforts to keep the situation to the situation because there are barriers on trade for the commodities or for the developing countries to reach a well with markets. and with this, with these disparities, if this i should say a big shortly zation of funds have developed because the developing countries have very little chance to accumulate enough capital to invest the wise and the to develop. apart from that, if you look, i just mentioned trade of the w tools and fuels
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as he seems to be quite so fair, i should say because it's a trade with nobody, it isn't a song. but if you think of a, it's like a punch in on that ring. a super heavy weights professional books and say ok, you are on equal footing with the small to the not issues. and the sometimes 6 guy who has more fighting experience. because on the surface it may look fair, but of course the, the economies of the north are much stronger and they are much more skillful in trade. and that these way of it's still, again, if these um, an example of, uh, unfair exchange of and unfair to the distribution of wills globally. if you look also at the cut of the existing
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intellectual property or the g. again, if these heavy biased towards each other, the poor, because not on the lease of the developing countries have enough access to modern technologies and the developments of science science. but sometimes they have given them difficulties using commercially, the phones that additional motor and the just on top of which is money is finance. because, well, the money is being painted by the west and it is much more expensive to the developing countries and to isaac. that means that the quote, the producers, the economic operators in the global north have access so much cheaper money and
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much cheaper, could i get them loans of to develop to the enterprise. she a, you have to pay double people, the price. again, it, these is fair and he also is, is an example of the late toby say with projects in your walk. most of the time you talk, we did it, please enter the of the, from various african countries. now how do they feel about their waste current policies? well, i would actually physically to speak on behalf of the countries because i haven't deem everywhere, but of course your right, i some i speak to them and they're also very different. uh, the advocates very diverse going to man. uh so uh and the culture is of do for them . so the calling them is that a different uh, the traditions of the for them. and also the differences within society is because
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if you speak to government officials, that's one thing. and you'll speak to uh uh, through intellectual university professors. and so now the, when you speak to the coma for 9 sheet, it's a, it's a sort of the being. so i will see the, however, i should say that my impression, if i may generalize a little bit, is that the actually comes uh a few uh, quite a bit short changed by the west and the that's why you have the debate on the do you do that as a shipment gain, you know, for example, and the many other countries. and there are also, uh, ideas floating around all 4 on how to make this world and its kind of.

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