later and who are here in, in south florida, who? ok, since they were silent and do you find out how to do so and get your will to do some bogus claims that we just simply don't have the resources. and i think that's a very good point that is that you have to make there, but i'm gonna stick with you on this gabrielle because should you think kind of 40 to have been made actually permit? because considering it was all of the other diseases and viruses which are not immunize again, so many of these countries, these migrants are coming from. and this was a title put into place to predict when to prevent future spread of disease. no, and i'll tell you why, because i think it, i think it was a bad it. this is a failure of the federal government in dividing ministration to solve a serious issue. title 42 was always going to be bound to expire at some point or another, whether you could count that down the road another 6 months. we need to fix this issue. yes, since a few minutes already an issue? yes, it's an economic issue for, for of people make that case with the problem. the problem lies at the federal government and no matter what happens and it was title 42. now for down the road

this, this was going to pop up. and so the people up up in dc, you need to get their stuff together. and finally, fix this big, big issue. you have a professor find this is an excellent point. this is one of the few issues that i think it is a truly is by part of. so i'm because both parties deserve a lot of the blame because neither one of them have wanted to fix the issue when they've been in power. this was a title that started off under president trump. so at this stage, you know, it, could you look at what happened or need present treatment? is there any difference between the policy under president trump, our president biden, or is it the exact same? and they're just pointing fingers at each other. yeah, i mean, i think they're equally bad if anything, the policy under body moves worse because under title 42, which i want to point out has nothing whatsoever to do was published because there was no career ctc scientist that ever publicly expressed support for that. it was roundly dismissed by public health exodus experts as actually being a public health manager. it was, it was put in place by the weights of premises steven miller, the a,

to the truck so that at least when people were, were rapidly deported or just expelled from united states. they didn't have a side of penalties following that. now with the returns of title 8, a people who attempt to who are unable to use the quote unquote lawful pathways that are actually impossible for many, many asylum seekers. and they try to enter the united states bill, actually be criminalized and prevented from seeking asylum for another 5 years. so it's more harmful than title 42 was um, in addition to the other ways that by the other mechanisms that binding has that to prevent people from exercising their international right to seek asylum. and i want to add that i actually agree with your other guess the, the, the asylum system is under funded and it, and it the we need to find out better. we need for people to be able to have access to assign records and not have the back lots of years that we have now. well,

and that's why i wanna talk about funding too, because yes, obviously there's a lot of money being invested by the individual states and the federal government to this. when you talk about funding, you know, 8, i think that when you look at gabriel, you 1st started say that there's a lot of resources to handle. so where does this funding go? is the funding suppose to go to those that are processing, whether you're talking about the courts or the law enforcement that's on the border, or are you talking about the funding needs to go to taking care of them? and i think this could be a major debate on this issue for both sides. a part of gabrielle where does the money more money need to go? the definitely need to to, to be able to fund the border patrol. border patrol is stretched out way too thin as it is already away. so many people coming in a to the southern border and you know, a part of it needs to be i did being able to process these people in their countries of lords, right? it's, it's not, it's also unfair to say, because of your proxy, geographical proximity, united states, you're going to be able to come in when possibly some, some young man or,

or woman in india with a viable claim. who would be a great person to, to integrate into the united states is, you know, 2 or 3000 miles away. you're going to have to wait because these people are going to jump in the lot. and, and part of that is gonna have to be funding these processes where you can probably, or you can process these folks or assign them claims and otherwise in the original countries wars. but that does have to include components for the border patrol fuels, but the southern border is no longer pores and that people can't just come over here through mexico central america and just keep the line. but by coming into texas, nevada, arizona, etc, fessler pine and your thoughts, do you agree with him? it was a 3rd to say that people could fairly be processed in their countries of origin. if in fact they have a valid asylum claim. that means that they are facing, uh, you know, uh, a real danger to their life. and is that the keys been having to wait in the country of origin puts them at tremendous risk of losing their life. in my case,

i work as an asylum, as a country conditions expert for people from hunger as in, you know, in, in asylum courts here in the united states. and i, my case is generally go, well, but there are so many examples of people who have been deported because they haven't had, you know, they haven't had fair representation as they've been deported and quite quickly after that killed and, and that's the thing, the conditions people are we in are very dangerous. um if, if they didn't have a valid asylum, can't claim and having a processing center with work. but for those people who do have valid design and claim, it's because they're going to get killed and they can't, they can't ask for asylum in their own country. okay, so i have to ask you the question. if there is a mass amounts, like you said, guatemala hunters were saying from restaurant from these countries where the world organizations that we, we do have these things called the united nations and other world health world organizations. why are they looking at the government of the country that's

allowing this that's pushing these sorts of policies that are making there. people say, where is the account ability on those countries instead of putting the, all of the work and all of the pressure and all the bottom right. we say the word burden on countries like united states and other surrounding to take these immigrants. yeah. um, i would go back to my earlier point, which is, but it's not those countries that are causing this. it is united states foreign policy. united states for our policy is, is creating conditions in countries around the world. and i work specifically in latin america. so i could speak to many of those countries, but the wars that we have funded, the cruise that we have funded be economic warfare that we're funding through sanctions. this is what is preventing countries from acting in ways that are software in ways that are best for their own people. and it is what is expelling people from those countries. if we really wanted to, you know, to do the right thing, we would stop intervening in other countries solver in affairs and they would stop

spending billions of dollars on wars and you know, and, and militarization and other countries that would give us more than it would spend the flow tremendously of asylum seekers, and it would give us some more than enough money to pay for as you mean. border system not to mention paper, healthcare and education and things like that. but we desperately need the most country for us. the primary and lighting hold on panel, stay right there. i want to come right back to you after the break. because after the break, we're going to continue with this very good discussion and look at why the united states continues to have the largest amount of immigrants around the world. the let me alone as an engineer. and we deal low exposure for you guys to start

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the, you are watching a 360 view and i'm getting now hughes. we're discussing the end of the united states, public health immigration policy called title $42.00 and migration across the globe . so let's welcome back professor adrian, at pine, a visiting professor and department of anthropology and social change of the california institute of integral studies. and, and gabriel again is a acumen immigrant and executive director for the ready for ron political action committee. thank you both for joining me on this. i'm going to start with you professor pine on this. what are you? i know you were with latin america, but are you concerned about the large amount of non hispanic citizens who are crossing the southern border? and i'm not concerned about it, i, you know, i'm, i'm concerned for their safety and concern that their human rights are respected.

i'm concerned about the, the stabilisation that people have experienced in places all around the world. and much of which again, has to do with us for a policy. not all of that. of course, i mean, you can look at entities that are us allies like nato, that are creating tremendous how they're going. it's spelling people from their homes are concerned that people are not able to exercise their human rights to stay in their communities of origin to stay with their families. and that's something that people are being denied. so yes is, it's a concern for me, and i think we need to make sure that, that we are respecting international refugee law and in respecting their human rights and ensuring that they are not sitting in greater danger than they have already been in to travel such tremendous amount of a tremendous distance to try to seek refuge gabriel though we're talking about people that are flying to mexico city from india. so our own producer software and

either buying from other countries, they obviously have the money. why are they? why are they seeing folks not trying to do it legally? do you feel like because it's so much easier to come into this other more intuitively, really to get into it legally. it takes a lot of time, you know, sometimes to get an appointment and with the united states. obviously you want to or depending on where you live, can take up to 34 years just uh, just to get seen by an immigration official. it's much easier with, with forrest board just come geographically, fly to mexico, the mexicans aren't doing anything because we, we, we no longer have say, the state of mexico policy. we have no, we're, we're not just putting a lot of pressure on the mexican government. so they're not doing a whole lot to stop anything. they come through the water and all of them get in, they get paid the payoff, these coyotes who are quite frankly, a do horrendous thing. so a lot of these poor people and, and promising them things that are just simply not true, they're just going to walk in here and everything is going to be rosy. so i think that's unfortunately a situation that we find ourselves in new and then there's no change of seemingly

insight. so gabrielle, i have to ask you at your own florida gover. rhonda sandra as well as governor abbot, how you feel about them sitting migrates into the back yards of the democrats, who de for c r. the reason for this problem and the policy that they're putting in place. it was a game of chicken for years. the democrats have been saying that republican, a southern states and need to open up their borders and, and take care of these immigrants. well, fair enough, where it's, it's a, it's a country of 50 states. and so therefore, because of our proximity to the border, shouldn't mean that the people up north shouldn't have to bear some of those burden . and the 2nd that they started to send in regards to some of these non border states up north, they immediately started school. we have at eric adams and in new york talking about now getting rid of the st. curious the status of the summer on a, on a, on a temporary basis and in new york city and other places doing the same. i think it's a little bit of a box if, if, if, if the southern states are being overwhelmed and you think that it's

a in humane not to allow everyone in, well, then you should open up your own doors and welcome these folks in professor pine. i mean, is this fair for those southern stay, especially the local budgets to handle, all of the migrants are coming across the border illegally. and what is your response? when you said these buses were bus to 2 places like the hamptons, which within 24 hours, the national guard was activated and they cleared them out. you see eric adams saying, tell, we might not be a sanctuary city anymore. how do you feel when these more northern democrats, their response, and how they're handling the migrant crisis in their own backyard is, well, i live in washington dc where, you know, we've been getting huge numbers of buses coming up to here and people been working very hard to ensure that these people are welcomed and that they're getting, you know, they're, they're receiving the site for as we are essentially city. um, air guns is no friends to him. i think as most democrats are no friends to migrate . so let's be clear about that. however, he got new york under kathy oh,

go recently made a really important point which is that there need to be better, better federal and funding and solutions for um, for it disorder. xena phobic, fostering of how can, who can like out out via phobia, who the states are really going to suffer the most from these anti migrant policies are florida in texas. they're already losing millions of dollars are beginning to experience dramatic work or shortages. this is really a sort of competition for who can be the most beautiful, the nationalistic, and what we need is, is indeed a federal solution. and so that there's not, you know, too much of a burden for the, the, the states that are off the border. um and you know, solutions like the ones that adams and, and who were calling for which is expediting the work permit process. it's tremendously difficult for people who are seeking asylum, who are fleeing or risk situations to establish themselves and you know and be safe

and to, you know, how sort of the lifestyle that they would like to have and avoid crime. avoid being victims of crime. and so whatever we can do at the federal level to facilitate that, i think that's what we need to do. so professor, since we're considering your talk to all the foreign aid that are currently be given out, there are 2 other countries. why do you think there's not more of a call to have that money remain at home to take care of this crisis? and what's your answer? when you look at there, we have a major homeless problem here in the united states. we have is a major challenge to a paying for education wherever challenges to our health care system. we don't have money right now currently in the united states, but i didn't even pay for the citizens that we have homeless veterans. we're, we're actually kicked out of hotels. what do you say to those say, we don't even have enough money to take care of american citizens right now, or sending billions overseas to other countries. why didn't the more of

a call to take care of americans 1st then take care of other countries us? i mean, she might be having american seeking asylum and other countries soon if we keep this up. yeah, i mean i, i think actually we need to look at the global budget. we need to look at the global federal budget. we're spending billions and billions of dollars on a proxy or with russia that is already killed over a $100000.00 ukrainians and displace millions more. we don't need to be spending that money, but on, on a word it could be as peacefully through negotiation. and with regard to for me, i'm actually in agreement that a lot a lot of it should be confiscated. specifically, the huge for portion of it that is falsely called 8 is actually going towards the militarization of foreign countries and big, huge corporate extracted projects that are displacing people from their homes and communities and preventing other countries to exercise their right to star into. this would solve the migration crisis, and it would give us billions of dollars back that we would then be able to spend on taking care of our needs as a nation. well,

i wanna thank you and gabrielle ayana's and adrian pine for your discussion. here today a this has been straight out here, 0360 view of the news you can use. thanks for watching the best of both. no issue, but for the mobile, when you go annual g d, p per capita is about $4000.00 euros. the color in a mobile watch here, the sleep of man, i may have found that across the seal from where this really into totally new such as the mobile number to come out. please make your lives or stop the. the single thought of unemployment is off the charts. most of us territorial integrity and

sovereignty. we respect the country which enjoys financial support from the us. envy is constantly ross by political and corruption scandals. but all the students don't know the training in candidate status in 2022. the sanctions are like weapons of mass destruction who has demonstrated a pause that it does q people chose more people on the battlefields actually. and in this case, i think, potentially, you know, the casual is maybe more than just people in english showing ukraine might be people in north africa in the middle east. log suffering from starvation. the,

[000:00:00;00] the headlines all change the national as you training and forces are planning to strike russia's known and complex others with the western maid stone, the shadow of marseilles in the high mas rockets that's according to the russian defense ministry that says the move wouldn't vastly escalate nato's involved. but can you show that so far that the even had the sellers where we were hiding? it feels like they were on the hunt for before a rise the neighboring houses were burning in the program. we also hear from one of the many families lies, which is being well constructed by years of ukrainian shock. fucking a positive praise. as molly, according to remove the un troops from its country by western states are apparently

pending the blame for molly decision. on most of the what is good to have you with us for this i was program with all the international an awful lot to talk about tonight live from and while the key of continues to attack various russian border territories, rushers, defense minister as warning of a massive escalation, he says, attacks continue to be repelled, however, cautions that ukraine is planning a massive strike. one, crimea, and other areas using western weapons. a very serious couple of those red ukrainian forces continued to attempt to carry out defences in the south. the next step of rosure and the next regions in doing so in the cab regime use is a large number of western weapons. and then the unit is personnel would train by nature specialists, $16.00 to $40.00 ukrainian forces. everyone is 263 insects against russian positions. thanks to the company and then sell for his actions of all units,

ordered them the results and the enemy didn't not reach his target. certainly, university russian defense minister survey shall go, has warrant against a crazy and military leadership planning to use western weapons to attack certain parts of russia that are not in the active zone of facilities including crimea. now they're planning to do this by using high mars rockets as well as thorn shadoan air launch cruise missiles that are delivered by the united states and united kingdom, respectively, only accelerating nato's involvement into this conflicts. now, according to the defense minister, an over ration to like, uh, probably me, a, for instance will result in immediate strikes against the decision making centers in ukraine. nursing done according to the information that come on to the ukranian forces is planning to launch strikes on the territory, the russian federation, including crime in with high mazda and storm shadow missiles. the use of these missiles outside the area of the special ministry operation when indicate the full fledged involvement of the us. and you can the conflict and with the amount of

media strikes on the decision making scientist on the territory of ukraine. ukrainian, the tax on the done yes, question has been a successfully repulsed by a russian military. but this title of that ukraine is still the case continues to carry out. it's offensive in the same region using not only western weapons, but also a military that was trained by nato. now, this side, the very long awaited ukrainian and counter offensive that started earlier this month. it really seems like ukraine has failed to achieve any significant advances on the ground to the calculation. and you kind of course continues to take a daily told on civilians court happen. it. people are often faced with a very sad option of either staying or fleeing. some have chosen to find children of russia as he goes down orthodontics, my kid has made a colossal push to brand the ongoing war as the nation wide uprising against

russian invaders. uncomfortable images of young men going out of their way to escape and resist mobilization, swept under the rug, as well as the fact that amid the refugee crisis, millions ran into the embrace of the supposed abuse cling to russia. this is one of such families, alexander and marie, mary used to live at quite reclusive life. deep in the local forestry. everything changed when there alone cabin became a target for ukraine's troops. denial slowly made way for acceptance, and the couple made a heart wrenching decision to flee to the nearest town of cream and naya. they left behind their old life, but not ukrainian bones. the we do this try ship because we would call sleeping shells. they struck a neighborhood, landed here. if there was no such barrier here, the fragments would have house us. recently they showed us my wife even went to the

don't set because of the poisoning. apparently they find some kind of mock. as on the, on the 26, they showed us. so how did they even hit the seller wherever hiding it feels like they were on the hunt for us before our eyes, the neighboring houses were banding. my husband and i tried to put out defies. the neighbors says, well leave shillings actually sewage to displace as many people as possible, even though apparently what it was, the ukrainian smooth attack. you know, so even before the russian center, the city on the crane brought the soul, this trouble rush, i did not fly a single shot to the city russians. soldiers were greeted as the real liberators. and now we have the same good attitude towards them. they share the rations with us . we also the craniums. why are you heating us? they say to create more refugees. so they leave their homes and had to the west, the authorities to make good money out of that. in a way that worked to date,

russia has shows that the more ukranian refugees than any of the country. and these people regret nothing too much of some kind of application for a passport. for a quite to an application, for vacation, it will have to be in ukrainian, the stalls we are forced to speak ukrainian to greet the main ukrainian because the 7 ukrainian i don't understand how so that all seem government offices. my children will forced to speak ukrainian 1000 from kindergarten russians, the 2nd largest ethnic group in ukraine. following the 2014 revolution, keith went on the mission to make the life of every single one of them miserable. not see groups were nourished as they hovered above the little. probably see if that of who in 2014, when now self invited sect to appease the give books to schools on how to teach the killing of russian people. those are all the she was at the right site to it was

crazy and it seems that you can do whatever you want. just call your cell for right . so like to member, they came to us to the hunt. this cabin when we were still gathering the area they broke deluxe for was, i say, tell me, but i'll open it to you. they onto the right site to members, and they do what they want those boss to it's they beat the elderly women, that's fine for them. but as the fighting began, they mediately screwed out since last year, ukraine, most huge swings of its land. as for the people here though with every policy, every step of the way key of lost them long before that i guess done over poor thing from the don't bass oxy. oh, of course of various western countries continue to supply ukraine with weapons, but the stock piles really are running low. well, p. s continues to ask for more of the foreign minister says that until the conflict is one, they will never be enough military support to this,

i will say there were enough weapons on the day of victory when we, when i will say thank you. the weapons were enough, but until then everything will never be enough for me. no matter how much you give, everything will not be enough. because while there were still no victory, it means there was not enough help. it is very simple. you want to get all that was actually feeling the button, the night or chief saying weapons and ammo stopped to severely depleted. it's also according to papers published in the spiegel reports. germany support for ukraine has left bolan's armed forces with roughly 20000 or 10 ratios left. we discussed this with a geo political analyst as different guys. she says, nato was not and is not prepared for this. this is, let's say a structural problem that the west has, in general ways comes to, uh, the approach to where is the industry that they were paying for. really a large scale wars because they thought it turned into some kind of

a t serial police force that was imposing. it's well on different the parts of the blog. but it's the 1st time that it is in a major conflict with another power that is a similar to, to leave. now they have a problem because the stop files with the western countries are already critical. we hear those from right. the reason we hear this from germany from other countries graham. busy as is which are, which is basically natal force of all it's not that. busy the name to quits, completely by native gear and they to soldiers are, are, are he legally fighting on the planning side of this army is surviving a huge defeat as we speak. there is a lot of corruption within the training of the army that some officers are actually selling, find you weapons and the, they don't know where these weapons are going. obviously there is there a lot of corruption happening around this way. busy efforts from the western side.

and i think that the we only see the tip of the iceberg to africa. now where molly has decided to withdrawal un troops from the country. so in a bucket of facet, we're supporting the move and is invoking others to respect the actions or the government. the working of fossil, hales discourages decision taken by malice, transitional authorities, and congratulate smell it for this choice, which is in line with the strategic vision of the mountain state and the fight against terrorism. and for the restoration of peace and security in the socket, encourages the government and the brother of the people of male in this information of the silver and the male in state and expression of the will of mountains inform allianz to be the sole masters of their destiny, the government of booking a fast so invited the international community to strictly respect the choices made by malley. well, in the wake of all the best southern western countries are actually putting the blame on moscow. germany says russia has been stoking anti western sentiment to the