and to deal with it. yeah, certainly there's plenty of people who have might have value reasons coming into the united states and, and who really might have a reason to fear for the lives. unfortunately, we're just not capable of processing all these people. we don't have enough resources, you don't have an affordable stroke. we don't have, and that's what i did you just as far as the judicial system, the process, all these people, it's incredibly difficult. actually. we do these folks and find out who has a, a viable claim and who does it. you know, down here in south florida, we see a lot of people coming in from latin america, even though the border now is getting a sort filled with people from all over the world. not just from the south of central america. we have all these folks down here in south florida and, and none of these people believe it and all these folks that are coming through cleaning asylum. how about that kind of asylum? we, we, we know people anecdotally, we've seen people who come here from venezuela escaping their, their assailants. people who buy their kidnapped them or, or their families or, or,

and 11 case, great them, they walk into an elevator who are human in software and who walks in, their a silent and you find out how to use your will to do some bogus claims that we just simply don't have the resources. and i think that's a very good point. that is that you have to make there, but i'm gonna stick with you on this gabrielle. because sure. do you think kind of 40 to have been made actually permit? because considering it was all of the other diseases and viruses which are not immunize again, so many of these countries, these migraines are coming from. and this was a title put into place to predict when to prevent future spread of disease. you know, and i'll tell you why, because i think it, i think it was a bad it, this is a failure of the federal government in dividing them restriction to solve a serious issue. type of 42 was always going to pay down to expire at some point or another whether you keep the count that down the road another 6 months, we need to fix this issue. yes, it's a humanitarian issue. yes, it's an economic issue for, for of people make that case with the problem. the problem lies with the federal

government and no matter what happens and it was title 42. now for down the road this, this was gonna pop up. and so the people up in dc, you need to get their stuff together. and finally, fix this big, big issue and have a professor probably this is an excellent point. this is one of the few issues that i think it a truly is by part of. so i'm because both parties deserve a lot of the blame because neither one of them have wanted to fix the issue when they've been in power. this was a title that started off under president trump. so at this stage, you know, it, could you look at what happened or need present treatment? is there any difference between the policy under president trump or president biden, or is it the exact same and they're just pointing fingers at each other? yeah, i mean, i think they're equally bad if anything, the policy under body moves worse because under title forwarding to which i want to point out has nothing whatsoever to do is public. because there was no career cdc scientist that ever publicly expressed support for that. it was roundly dismissed by public health excellence experts as actually being

a public health manager. it was, it was put in place by the white supremacy of steven miller, the a, to the truck so that at least where people were, were rapidly deported or just expelled from the united states. they didn't have a side of penalties following that. now with the returns of title 8, a people who attempt to were unable to use the quote unquote lawful pathways that are actually impossible for many, many asylum seekers. and they try to enter the united states bill, actually be criminalized and prevented from seeking asylum for another 5 years. so it's more harmful than title 42 was in addition to the other ways that by the other mechanisms that binding has that to prevent people from exercising their international right to um, suffolk asylum. and i want to add that i actually agree with your other guests that that'd be asylum system is under funded. and then and it be, we need to find out better. we need for people to be able to have access to assign

records and not have the back lots of years that we have now. well, and that's why i want to talk about funding too, because yes, obviously there's a lot of money being invested by the individual states and the federal government to this. when you talk about finding, you know, the 8, i think that when you look at gabriel, you 1st started say there's a lot of resources to handle. so where does this funding go? is the funding suppose to go to those that are processing, whether you're talking about the courts or the law enforcement that's on the border, or are you talking about the funding needs to go to taking care of them? and i think this could be a major debate on this issue for both sides, the part of gabriel. where does the money more money need to go? the definitely need to have to be able to find the border patrol. border patrol is stretched out way too soon. as it is already away, so many people coming in a to the southern border and you know, part of it needs to be a being able to process these people in their countries of lords, right? it's, it's not, it's also unfair to say, because of your proxy, geographical proximity, the united states,

you're going to be able to come in when possibly some, some young man or, or woman in india with a viable claim. who would be a great person to, to integrate into united states is, you know, 2 or 3000 miles away. you're going to have to wait because these people are going to jump in the lot. and part of that is gonna have to be funding these processes where you can probably, or you can process these folks or assign them claims and otherwise in the original countries wars. but that does have to include a component for the border patrol fuels, but the southern border is no longer pores. and that people can't just come over here through mex, core central america. and just keep the line of not by coming into texas, nevada, arizona, etc. fessler pine and your thoughts? do you agree with him as well as a 3rd to say that people could fairly be processed in their countries of origin? if in fact they have a valid asylum claim, that means that they are facing uh, you know, a real danger to their life. and if that's the case, then having to wait in the country of origin puts them at tremendous risk of losing

their life. in my case, i work as an asylum, as a country conditions expert for people from hunger as in, you know, in, in asylum chords. here in the united states, and i, my case is generally go, well, but there are so many examples of people who have been deported because they haven't had, you know, they haven't had fair representation as they've been deported and quite quickly after that killed and, and that's the thing the conditions people are we in are very dangerous. um if, if they didn't have a valid asylum, can't claim and having the processing center with work. but for those people who do have valid design and claim, it's because they're going to get killed. and they can't, they can't ask for asylum in their own country. okay, so i have to ask you the question. if there is a mass amounts, like you said, guatemala hunters were saying from restaurant from these countries where the world organizations that we, we do have these things called the united nations and other world health world

organizations. why are they looking at the government of the country that's allowing this that's pushing these sorts of policies that are making their people say, where is the account ability on those countries instead of putting the, all of the work and all of the pressure and all the bottling we say the word burden on countries like the united states and other surrounding to take these immigrants . yeah, um, i would go back to my earlier point, which is, but it's not those countries that are causing this. it is united states foreign policy, the united states for our policy is, is creating conditions in countries around the world. and i work specifically in latin america, so i could speak to many of those countries. but the wars that we have funded, the cruise that we have funded speak economic warfare that we're funding through sanctions. this is what is preventing countries from acting in ways that are sovereign in ways that are best for their own people. and it is what is expelling people from those countries. if we really wanted to, you know,

to do the right thing. we would stop intervening in other countries solver in affairs. and they would stop spending billions of dollars on wars and you know, and, and militarization of other countries that would give us more than it would spend the flow tremendously of asylum seekers. and it would give us more than enough money to pay for. as you mean border system, not to mention paper, healthcare and education and things like that, but we desperately need the most century for us are probably very enlightening. hold on panel, stay right there. i want to come right back to you after the break. because after the break, we're going to continue with this very good discussion and look at why the united states continues to have the largest amount of immigrants around the world. the

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course much of the world calling for an end to possibilities in ukraine. nato appears to have other ideas. is ukraine turning into washington's next forever ward? it certainly appears so that it has nothing to do with you crate. defeating russia is the goal you are watching at $360.00 view and i'm a scouting now hughes. we're discussing the end of the united states. public health immigration policy called title 42 and migration across the globe. so let's welcome back professor adrian pine, a visiting professor and department of anthropology and social change at the california institute of integral studies. and gabriel gunn is a acumen immigrant and executive director for the ready for ron political action committee. thank you both for joining me on this. i'm going to start with you professor pine on this. what are you?

i know you were with latin america, but are you concerned about the large amount of non hispanic citizens who are crossing the southern border? and um, am i concerned about it? i, you know, i'm, i'm concerned for their safety and concern that their human rights are respected. i'm concerned about the, the civilization that people have experienced in places all around the world. and much of which again, has to do with us for a policy. not all of that. of course, i mean, you can look at entities that are us allies like nato, that are creating tremendous how they're going. it's spelling people from their homes unconcerned, but people are not able to exercise their human rights to stay in their communities of origin to stay with their families. and that's something that people are being denied. so yes is, it's a concern for me. um, and i think we need to make sure that, that we are respecting international refugee law and in respecting their human rights and ensuring that they are not sitting greater danger than they have already

been in to travel such tremendous amount of a tremendous distance to try to seek refuge, gabrielle though, we're talking about people that are flying to mexico city from india. so our own producer software and i, they're fine from other countries. they obviously have the money. why are they, why are they seeing folks not trying to do it legally? do you feel like because it's so much easier to come into this other more and do it legally to get it, do it legally. it takes a lot of time, you know, sometimes to get an appointment and with the united states. obviously you want to or depending on where you live, to take up to 34 years just just to get seen by an immigration official. it's much easier with, with forrest board just come geographically, fly to mexico. the mexicans aren't doing anything because we, we, we no longer have state of the state of mexico policy. we have no, we're, we're not just putting a lot of pressure on the mexican government. so they're not doing a whole lot to stop anything coming through the water and all of them get in, they get paid the payoff, these coyotes who are quite frankly, a do horrendous thing. so a lot of these poor people and,

and promising on things that are just simply not true if you're just going to walk in here and everything is going to be rosy. so i think that's unfortunately a situation that we find ourselves and then there's no change of seemingly insight . so gabrielle, i have to ask you at your own florida gover ronda sands as well as governor abbot. how you feel about them sitting migrates into the back yards of the democrats, who they perceive are the reason for this problem and the policy that they're putting in place. it was a game of chicken for years. the democrats have been saying that republican is southern states and need to open up their borders and, and take care of these immigrants. well, fair enough it's, it's a, it's a country of 50 states. and so therefore, because of our proximity to the border, shouldn't mean that the people up north should have to bear some of this burden. and the 2nd that they started to send in regards to some of these non border states up north, they immediately started school. we have at eric adams and in new york talking

about now getting rid of the sanctuary city side us at least on a, on a, on a, on a temporary basis. and in new york city and other places doing the same. i think it's a little bit of a box if, if, if, if the southern states are being overwhelmed and you think that it's a in humane not to allow everyone in, well, then you should open up your own doors and welcome these folks in professor pine. i mean, is this fair for those southern state, especially the local budgets to handle all of the migraines that are coming across the border illegally. and what is your response? when you said these buses were bus to 2 places like the hamptons, which within 24 hours, the national guard was activated and they cleared them out. you see eric adams saying, tell, we might not be a sanctuary city anymore. how do you feel when these more northern democrats, their response, and how they're handling the migrant crisis in their own backyard? just, well, i live in washington dc where, you know, we've been getting huge numbers of buses coming up to here and people been working very hard to ensure that these people are welcomed and that they're getting,

you know, they're, they're receiving the sites for as we are essentially are city um, air guns is no friends to my friends as the most democrats are no friends to migrate. so let's be clear about that. however, he got new york under kathy hoko recently made a really important point which is that there need to be better, better federal and funding and solutions for um, for this sort of z. a phobic, fostering of how can, who can like out out via phobia who the states are really going to suffer the most of these anti migrant policies are worth it. and texas, they're already losing millions of dollars. are beginning to experience dramatic workers shortages. this is really a sort of competition for who can be the most beautiful, the nationalistic, and what we need is, is indeed a federal solution. and so that there's not, you know, too much of a burden for the, the,

the states that are off the border. um and you know, solutions like the ones that adams and, and who cool were calling for, which is expediting a work permit process. it's tremendously difficult for people who are seeking asylum, who are fleeing or risk situations to establish themselves and you know and be safe and to, you know, how sort of the lifestyle that they would like to have and avoid crime. avoid being victims of crime. and so whatever we can do at the federal level to facilitate that, i think that's what we need to. so professor, since we're considering your talk to all the foreign aid that are currently given advert or to other countries, why do you think there's not more of a call to have that money remain at home to take care of this crisis? and what's your answer? when you look at there, we have a major homeless problem here in united states. we have is a major challenge to a paying for education. we are of a challenge to our health care system. we don't have money right now currently in the united states,

but didn't even pay for the citizens that we have homeless veterans were actually kicked out of hotels. what do you say to those that say we don't even have enough money to take care of american citizens right now, or sending billions overseas to other countries? why didn't the more of a call to take care of americans 1st, then take care of other countries as i mean, she might be having american speaking asylum and other countries soon if we keep this up. yeah, i mean i, i think actually we need to look at the global budget. we need to look at the global federal budget. we're spending billions and billions of dollars on a proxy or with russia. it is already killed over a $100000.00 ukrainians and displaced millions more. we don't need to be spending that money, but on unaware that could be any fees fully through negotiation. and with regard to for me, i'm actually in agreement that a lot, a lot of it should be caught specifically specifically the huge for portion of it that is possibly called a. it is actually going towards the militarization of foreign countries and fix huge corporate extracted projects that are displacing people from their homes and

communities and preventing other countries to exercise their right to star energy. this would solve the migration crisis, and it would give us billions of dollars back that we would then be able to spend on taking care of our needs as a nation. well, i want to thank you and gabrielle yana is an adrian pined for your discussion here today. this is been scale here 0360 view of the news you can use thanks for watching the summer to attend. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. whitelisted opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to planes or do they have the state department c i a weapons, bankers, multi $1000000000.00 corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. i changed and

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[000:00:00;00] the, the deadlines on off the international as ukrainian forces are planning to strike rushes non complex owns with west student made store shadow of miss aisles in the high mas rockets. according to the russian defense ministry that says the move wouldn't possibly escalate from nato's involvement. in ukraine, but actually the fossil praises molly for demonically you any, remove the troops from its country. all western states are apparently pending the blame for molly's decision on most of the people are killed and other full wounded in a shooting outside even as riley settlement in the west. suffice, it is a made an escalation intentions and resumed back

the your news around the clock here, one off the international. it's so good to have you been and well continues to attack various russian border territories. rushers, defense minister is wanting of an enormous escalation. he says, attacks continue to be repelled, however, cautions that ukraine is planning a massive strike on crimea and other areas using advanced western weapons. a really serious go for those guys, for the current in forces continue to attempt to carry out defenses in the south. the next step are rosure and the next regions in doing so in the cat version, uses a large number of western weapons and the unit is personnel with trade by nature. specialists, thanks during the 40 ukrainian forces. everyone is 263 insects against russian positions. thanks to the company and then sell for his actions of all unit. 4 of

them were repulsed and the enemy didn't not reach his target. certainly, university russian defense minister survey shall go, has warrant, i guess, or craney and military leadership planning to use western weapons to attack certain parts of russia that are not in the active zone of facilities, including cry me. and now they're planning to do this by using high mars rockets as well as thorn shadoan air launch cruise missiles that are delivered by the united states and united kingdom, respectively, only accelerating nato's involvement into this conflicts. now, according to the defense minister, an over ration to strike, pry me up, for instance, will result in immediate strikes against the decision making centers in ukraine, nursing government, according to the information that come on to the ukranian forces is planning to launch strikes on the territory the russian federation, including crime, if with high mazda and storm shadow missiles, the use of these missiles outside of the area of the special ministry operation. when indicate the full fledged involvement of the us and u. k. and the conflict and with the amount of media strikes on the decision making

scientist on the territory of ukraine. ukrainian, the tax on the done yes, question has been successfully repulsed by russian military. but despite all of that, ukraine is still at 10 continues to carry out. it's offensive in that same region using not only western weapons, but also a military that was trained by nato. now, this fight, the very long awaited ukrainian encounter offensive that started earlier this month . it really seems like ukraine has failed to achieve any significant advances on the ground of the un has reported extensive damage to energy infrastructure all across ukraine, including an active combat zones. it also disclose the number of civilian casualties. i should say the number of casualties since the calls later up that last year, just over 24000 people. the u. n. had conflicting reports about where those civilian casualties wearing could. the un development program set the number was only and ukrainian government controlled areas. whereas another statement by the

office of the un human rights commission to study with them both ukrainian and russian areas. but discussed this with independent journalist as sonya vanden and that you said western countries need to account for festival. the thousands of casualties inflicted by t, as in the dong bass since 2014. and they then say, officially everything it is in the ukraine because they their figures. another part of the board is saying that this is from the 1st of january 2022. so before the start of the vin ration, so they are not accurate, they say, and they do not take into account anything them is 45, they say by the russian. they don't even recognize that it was, it was actually the civil war in uh, in the no less than 2040 to the cool cool data. ignore the whole thing already for now. 9 years. and they don't, maybe they have since it is, we don't know that of course,

but they never mention it never because according to them it's you create a new credit is ukraine and like try me and also it's all ukraine. so they soon start thinking about the people in the little box that, you know, a lot of casualties have been there. this is what they should do, but we know the west, they won't, they will never do it or to africa. now where molly is looking to kick un troops out of the country, it's neva booking and fast, always supporting the move and even calling on other states to show respect of the government. the working of fossil, hales discourages decision taken by malice, transitional authorities, and congratulate smell it for this choice, which is in line with the strategic region of the mountain state and the fight against terrorism. and for the restoration of peace and security in the socket, encourages the government and the brother of the people of male in this information of the silver and the male in state and expression of the will of mountains inform allianz to be the sole masters of their destiny, the government of booking

a fossil invites the international community district, the respect the choices made by malware. however, so the western countries are actually putting the blame from molly's decision on most of the drum, and he says, russia has been stoking and c western sentiment in the african nation. now saying it's german troops will stay in body for at least another here. means i motion has done what comes naturally, it's condemned. molly's decision to kick out un troops. the united states regrets the transition government of miles as decision to revoke it's constant for me. newest my newest, most draw down must be orderly and responsible. prioritizing the safety and security of peacekeepers and millions. we are not surprised that the molly and transitional government in russia will use the forthcoming extension of the un mandate to make political capital out of it. our interest is still in orderly withdrawal. but he went in a peacekeeping mission that has been embodied for

a good decade. the job is supposed to be combating terrorism and the national government is fed up with foreign true. so officials say, have done very little to crowds of violence and therefore they should just go home . it does come a bit, escalating anti western sentiment in the region directed in particular because the former colonial power from the government of molly calls for the withdrawal admin, newsome, it without delay. the news to me it seems to have become part of the problem by fuel and community tensions exacerbated by extremely serious allegations, which are highly detrimental to piece reconciliation and national cohesion. and molly, a layer we spoke to a local john list to explain why molly considers the un troops to be a part of the problem concerning the situated situation. un stop the fight scene between the uh, do you, how do you see him a 1000000? so that's what's happening in molly. so for the need for the populations, you and he's almost a big part of the problem because they never responded. wind is on a type of plans when they get some targets into by you. how do you improve this

image or it's just after when the problems happen that you can see us coming and to a point to make a report of probably 2 people with uh, uh, fluids or any kind of for these guys. any kind of seclusion? was any of the communications or whatever and that was the predictions what aspect to you from the you when? so say that's a really small, i don't truth as, as the money and i was thinking we can foresee that the main thing is i the situation of the system free. but this is, do you think it's very, it's not real. it's all totally it's, i mean it's, they work a lot, they work. we can just give this a dispatcher to to do money for it. so not to the not so the union forces, the appraisals needs the money and government seem to be assigned for many's months ago. i think they know what they doing because they i didn't want to invite them here. it's to the point 80 budget. so which media and reduce the list we see by

himself. the eu has a snob, the arab league over its re admission of war torn syria. one member of the leak is described the use cancellation of an upcoming meeting with us officials as quote regrettable or is it necessary re admission of syria was the decision taken unanimously by all the members of arab league? the legal decision had to be appreciated by the european union, but cancelling its meeting with the arab league, which had not been held for 4 years. was a regrettable decision. while the arab league lifted the suspension of serial last month, following more than a decade of the tensions between one of the bullets on nation, none his neighbors. the syrian, the president bush auto sat attendant of reasoned arab league meeting and saudi arabia that he described as an historical but unity for peace in the region. western powers, however, including the e. u. of stuff against any negotiations with the mask us as they have long