spots and therefore the domestic us politics have not caught up with that reality. but the rest of the world is, even when you look at me krohn going to china and show going to china. and they're understanding who they are, who they are to trading partners are in china, is divesting of it's us investments. so the world is going to bring this to a different result than united states has had intended. even if tony blanking and samantha power and the rest of that crew, don't get it, the rest of the world is going to force them to. yeah, but on that i, these people in power, they don't care what the rest of the world say, the cares. i mean, look at burrell, you know, right, burrell says a year, you know, the west as a garden and everyone else has the jungle. these people don't get it on the right. you've got 30 seconds before we go to the break. i mean,

i'm on the record for many years, those people argue phone buttons and you guys can resolve. you're going to send you a rough job 2 days ago. and you cannot get hired them this month. so basically your goals there. i have you as blogs and says, you know, watch, start fighting, defining your offices. if you want to flight comedy, flight boss, i said she go, you know, so, so basically matters goosgo being fault. you're going to in the world around those that repeats ational losses are 5 best off for the united states that have so you, if you want to fight, fight it. so it's perfectly pulling. okay, gentlemen, we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the nature of nato state with our to the russian states. never one of the most sense community,

best of all sense and up in the system must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians putting s r t, spoke back keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say you requested the

the new love seeing the board of the most schools? if you look on the initial do one of course, significant dealer post on zillow, while the deal was, can use the put body. what do you do or to anybody else as the was done the newest frame on the belief systems to good you do what i see these the buses, the little cute little dyson says, do some uh, tutorials on both of the welcome x across stock were all things are considered computer level true manual discussing the nature of nato, the

okay. belatedly were joined by our exist in new york. he is an investigative historian, whose latest book is america's empire of evil and walter of the program. eric, i started off with you, you know, in the 1st part of the program, wilbur well pointed out very clearly and i agree with them completely. is that america's cache around the world when it comes to ukraine is fading in very quickly . which brings up the issue is that we've had a number of countries. we've had china, we've had an african delegation lula in brazil, is coming up with his ideas. a lot of people talking about negotiation ceasefire. pros and cons like, oh, i'm sorry, it's all nonsense because russia is not going to get to negotiate with anyone in the west. why should they, eric? you know, of course not, but you know, i really disagree with the general crushed of what i heard earlier on the show ahead. go ahead. yes. said world public opinion is driving this matter or could

prevent a world war from occurring. i look at the bills that are being considered in congress and oh, i'm talking about bills, but you are coming out of the senate foreign relations committee in the house with foreign affairs committee and so forth and so on. and bills that are generally considered to be virtually sure to pass probably with overwhelming majorities. and what i'm seeing is that the congress person's e mail in the united states are dead set on demanding that the president released all but limitations that now exist on the supply of weaponry to ukraine. and i'm not talking about the quantitative limitations which are basically, you know, financial,

which are at this stage of the game, relatively unimportant. i'm talking about the, the, the, the, the introduction of extra exchange, the kind of kind of weapons that would change the military calculus. okay. well, let, let's, let's hold that, thought there on today. you know something about the military, the f sixteens. all this is that going to change the middle of the calculation on the battlefield, in your opinion, go ahead andre. uh, you know, that he's there. he says no weapons be, give them full if you want to do which can make any significant change in the outcome, including the press going to basic myself like every existing o blaine, you know the us air force there. so no, we're talking about at 2 different dikes or weapon systems. and we're talking about generation, because most what the united states supplies do,

the same goes for make up to your brain. it turned out to be what it actually, you know, i wrote 3 weeks about that. yes. a doc basically it's not design white's more than more. yeah, it will make no difference. what's right, any of the skin which will be delivered, it will be the draft the draft and shut down. so you're just not mike's name. okay, eric, go ahead. go ahead reply. there's not my point. my point is that the objective of the overwhelming majority of the congress person is for the united stage, immediately discharge applying missiles that are sufficient to be able to reach while scale and to be launched by the ukrainians against whatever they want. and in other words, against the kremlin and to release all of the other bite and administration

announced limitations on what america will and will not supply to ukraine and the kinds of issues each other will and will not supply to you. great, there is also legislation to introduce us troops to ukraine to join in the war. again. structure. ok, well here, but eric, you know, you can tell the difference. you can talk all you want about congressional bills, but i mean there is the executive, but it still does exist here. i'm not really sure the buy administration wants to do that. if they were going in that direction, they would probably be a lot more gung ho about getting the ukraine in today to in the 1st place. since the binding ministration is backing up because they realize the mess that they have created for themselves, the make it, you know, the congress can double down on stupid all with wants. so they couldn't waste all the money. it was, i don't say well and then if this kind of weaponry,

interest theater, or russian will react. ok, haven't we realize that after what 15 months of complex wilbur, go ahead and washington react. it's wilmer, but there's always, there's a, there's a difference between selling weapons and using weapons. and that's why i keep referring to this as a money laundering scheme and a ponzi scheme. dave calhoun, the see, the former c o, a boeing said back in 2020. i don't care who wins the election because we're going to get paid any way the, the, the, and we also have to look at the difference between the mindset and the pentagon. versus the mindset in the, in the white house. and one thing, the generals know, they do not want to get, you know, full blown conflict with, with russia. because that will also bring china into the equation. and they, so they can't be russia, they can't be china,

and they damn sure. can't be russia and china. so yes, the, the congress is authorizing the sale of weaponry because that's what the interest of boeing and lockheed martin in all of those lobbyist are filling the pockets, surprisingly of democrats for championing this foolishness. but there is a big difference between selling weapons and using weapons on today. there's a, there's been a lot of talk in the media about the use of nuclear weapons and the conditions in which they would be use. and it's very interesting if we're talking about what we, we used to think was on topical, unspeakable, about going up the escalation ladder. i mean, in, in the, in the talk of it in the west is because, well, there's the perception if you want to live yourself or not admitted, but new crane is losing. and this is a, and this is what that would be the russians watch because the russians have been watching the escalation lighter and they have reacted to it. they have not gone

over what the west has not been. they've matched it. your thoughts on that? andre? oh such that this nuclear weapons directory in the west east, but i thought i knew from brian is spelled bodies, the murphy show because our actually a russian has a very streeves. all right? you're for use and then you know where, awesome, why would you use any of the work on them? you can do it by conventional needs. yeah, that is primarily the are each but i mean, i get for money if you're leaving the property of at the end. of course, nobody will actually give your brain give you credit on the american warehouse. and roger is not going to use nuclear weapons. it is all dogs loving keeping their public opinion, even shape for ground floor. all those be that, you know, russians like you all have the week drink. and yes, i agree with you. it's all evolved, basically trying to do a shape then that or the of which completely go lobster me again, i believe you are in moscow your and you, you see yourself, the russians,

bill you where, you know, just don't give them a ball drop anything. well, there's him, i made you can all of days out from washington. and again, it's going to go annual one out and the annual, nor show long if you wish that a few days ago. again, i roll back it off levels. what's the problem for? gosh, this is the, i mean it's so verbatim, old, you know. and so they know, and they, so already brought to the old russian law, but basically they speak about the, you know, finding their mind direction, their business, calling united be a chicken. that's what it is. well eric, i would take, i would take just a little issue with that. this is p r, because i think there's a practical deterrent effect here as well. it's my dad used to say, you know, when you're in a negotiation, sometimes you've got to put the pistol on the table just to let him know you have one. so this i think is yes, there is

a p r effect intended here. but i also think there's a practical deterrent effect here as well. this is russia saying, i'm letting you guys know. we aren't joking, we are playing and you push this too far and we have something for you. it's got an arrow back to erica, new york. eric, i mean they, the, it seems to me that nato cannot accept the defeat here. i mean, it's all predicated down where the good guys, the russians are, the bad guys. you can't negotiate with bad people. it's a more morality play. it's a, it's a purity test. here, i mean, how does nato get out of this quagmire that it's uh, gotten itself into the only way it can happen to ship nato breaks up. because of nato holds together appear stage with united stage all the way up to a nuclear war. and i can see several possible ways that we can get to nuclear or nato holds together. busy throughout that entire pathway,

any of the routes, and there are several, we've got to recognize that why she is going to have to change its policies. it's an ounce policies. that is to say, it's really not going to be having a conversions on the other side. the collective west is right now determined to defeat russian. well, what? okay, well, what? but on the andre rug rushes to turn or russia is determined not to be defeated. we have the, you have the last minute on the right. go ahead. that means what large or so involved there are political team with the jump on the whole house if you wish, of being properly planned for. ya know, now that you wish out basically are awfully our strategy and need a new strategy offer after each component is what we're going to get the on the goal strategy. but he goes to yourself on a little bit bureau where to start putting the comment to me and, and again our staff to vote. and most of us, me the people into the internal,

my brother or john, some of the boys we share a are how long is done? well, you'll get to the process of marble or professional people maker isn't that man walking along the additional way? what's your house there? a must guarantee now. issue of donkey joining. briggs at some point of time. get a little read yourself. yeah. basically the cracks in may not get solved. okay. well i, i liked i live a lot of time, but i like i did, man walking. i think that kind of puts a ball on it here. it's all the time we have gentlemen and want to thank my guest in washington state, new york and, and washington. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. so you next time, remember across the, the, the, the,

with the discovery of the new world, at the end of the 15 century, there appeared atlantics, slave grey. the slave traders from european countries started building fords on the western coast of the african continent to transport the african inhabitants to america to be forced into hard labor. until the middle of the 17th century. portugal had played the main role in this atrocious business. then great britain, france and the netherlands took the leadership for this fan of 400 years of legal and illegal slave trade. about 17000000 people were forcefully shipped across the atlantic. not including those who died on the way due to unbearable living conditions. modern historians estimate that for each slave ship to america,

there were 5 who died while captured during transportation and cruel obliteration of rebellion. this route, because the whole tre practiced by the leading european countries took away tens of millions of african lives. the organization of united nations classifies the trans atlantics laved rate as one of the greatest human rights abuses in the history of humanity. this is the biggest act of deportation of people ever seen by mankind. who is the aggressor today i'm authorized with additional strong sanctions? are today russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it, a number that is constantly growing. but i think the pitch of the senior as we

speak on the leasing, and we see more in the way we'll shift for banning all in portion of russian oil and gas is suffering the price for another country. hope all's well with the rest of the fed. service involved, the little jo, by in imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there is a boomerang the the late one? no, no, no, no, no, not the most of the location of the unit 731 was a unique organization in the history of the world. what they were trying to do was to simply do nothing short and build the most powerful and most deadly

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on the put the ticket bucket together. the russian forces were pell ukrainian tanks on the front line while kids names, it's all life bridge. said fox, who has cancer has sent this thing. they would supply provides its national output as well. thing lines gratitute, so strong as anti french sentiments rose up from sacramento. the westbound 50 often, and have suffered from heavy civilian casualties. off the re fi is waiting for was to do on the list and did find all the people around me with joe list. little full of us together over in the press office. i'm it for us low. this will clear this. not a just me tell you that and we can point on the side of the vast. so head must have been pretty short. that battalion was it joined

the system 10 pm. hey, in the russian capital. and you're watching all the international with the latest 12 news updates. i'm sorry, one welcome to you. russia has repelled 7 attacks by ukrainian forces over the pulse 24 hours. that's according to russia's defense ministry. meanwhile, k f, as pointed the finger at its west and the allies for set fox on the battlefield with an adviser to president zalinski, st. ukraine's allies took too long to supply military aid of the time. last in convincing our partners to provide the necessary weapons is reflected in the specific russian for the vacations built to you and the spirits the deeply dr. defense line and the system of mine fields, things happen to be looking bright folder. ukrainian me here in the don't bass and in the south then. well, it's not because we haven't been trying during the past 24 hours,

the russian army has repelled at least 7 attacks on several sections on the front and holding to what we're getting from the front lines right now. another large scale attack is happening in the south and these upper rogia region, as the crate and forces are advancing on the russian positions on ma. so, but so far, ukraine has failed to show any results into any feasible progress over its counter offensive. and really g of has been struggling with explaining as to why that is, this is really reflects in the western headlines and the headlines of the main stream media, se, well, i'm jealous here on this pa, so the front we get almost unlimited access to pretty much pretty much all the regions and dual sections of the front cave is very, very careful about to who and where it slips. john lists and what sorts of reports in comes out. so western journalists, they really have to rely on teams,

official position, and that well, it has being quite inconsistent. at 1st, they have been all about, we haven't really started anything for real. but then presidents, a lensky himself, reluctantly admitted that the long teased counter offensive is indeed in full swing . so then the june change that may be, that have been suggestions that tv is really careful about the lives of. it's meant that it is preserving the process and no, but well, fax, the bed to defend. this is not something that we've heard from wells sold is on the front line. in fact, the initial tactics of david that involved sending tanks and west and almost vehicles fast on the infantry followed by the office on very hard hitting images of burning left. but tanks and bradley's does that change you to because apparently it's easier to see dead ukrainian bodies and to look at the dead ukrainian bodies that is for the key of combined of course. so now we're being told by the soldiers

on the front line, infantry is going fast and west, and ahmed vehicles of a all well providing cover from a safer distance. so uh, and in fact, according to the russian ministry of defense, ukraine, over the course of this month, has lost some $13000.00 men. that's a co law. so truly kolosso figure for this conflicts on now. well, uh, at least the cnn is reporting and citing officials in washington dc saying that, well, they are really impressed. and that this is not something that they expected and anticipated that they really wanted to see a move, fast paced, at least a fast paced offensive with some feasible results which ukraine has so far, completely failed to show. there's plenty of versions floating around. some european officials have been saying that while they simply do not want to follow this conflict to escalate further. but this doesn't really look plausible because

sofa, the e u has provided ukraine with pretty much everything that they wanted. and now they are thinking of supplying them with the f. 16 fighter jets as the actual reason could lie in the was of the is really prime minister who has said that the biggest problem today is that there is no control over the flow of arms. and there's no guarantees on behalf of kids that the weapons supplied by you for the fed bodies that they will not be smuggled and used by somebody else for malicious purposes. and according to these ready prime minister, this is over the happening outside the boat is of his own country. i think he's really is in a peculiar situation, different from st. bowlens, or germany, or france, or any of the western countries that are assisting ukraine. first of all, we have a close military border with russia. we also have concerns that, and the systems that we give to ukraine would be used against us because they could

fall into iranian hands and be used against us. and by the way, that's not it. so you already called possibility it actually happens with the western end to tank weapons that we now find at our borders. so we have to be very careful here. this is far from the 1st time that such concerns imagined the public domain. we have seen previous reports that western supply, the small items that they end up on the black markets of europe. and that, of course, significantly undermines the security situation on the continent. and well, if there's one thing, the 2 is very consistent about. it's uh, is there a demand for more weapons, for more supplies and for more support to the spiral? see the boy enough weapons on the day of sick truth when we, when i will say thank you, the weapons were enough to to but until then ever seen will never be enough for me . no matter how much you're new, everything will not be another one because while there is still no victory, so it means there was no, no,

it is very signs of what you want to get there. you haven't heard. crane is completely on the phase by the lack of progress, and there again, long teased counter offensive at depth. so far it has been an absolute slope. their message is very clear. if they need a deaf stella to destroy the russian forces, have a very will go on emission to europe and they will have here a pay for it, build it and supply to ukraine. speculation either russian is possible use of tactical nuclear weapons, is it because that's the response for russians on boston to washington of the republican senator lindsey graham said, in a press conference, russia's use of nuclear weapons in ukraine would become a citizen attack on may. so american university, nuclear studies institute director pizza cruz makes those in without reality is the pens ago that is pushing for a limited nuclear war. this is the closest we've been to nuclear war in 61 years. that's pretty sad that our civilization, ours,

humanity has been reduced to that level again. and we because even during the cuban missile crisis, we didn't really understand how dangerous nuclear was a good just a nuclear winter. since 19 eighties, research by american and russian, scientists has made clear that even a limited nuclear war could said tens of millions of tons of smoke, so that debris into 8 stratosphere, locked to the circle of low within 2 weeks. lock, 70 percent of the sun's rays from hitting the earth. even a limited loosely where with 200 here she is sized nuclear weapons with india and pakistan to kill up to 2000000000 people. us in russia have close to $13000.00 nuclear weapons and they're much, much bigger. and it was there you ever see him in august saki technical lucas, definitely still a nuclear bomb. some of them may very,

very small right now. and others of them can be made 10 times the size of the terrace human volume. so the difference is they're not long term long range, strategic weapons, as by then said recently. and one of those moments of lucidity. he said that that even the use of attacks of a nuclear bombs can as quickly lead to full scale armageddon. have gone off in game plans for a limited nuclear war. and what we find invariably is that you'd never stop no size. and it's not like russia with launch one in the united states with launch to rush with large one. and we say it's over. they almost always escalate right up the ladder to full scale nuclear war. no need to be considered to be use madness. civilians have been killed during a ukrainian strikes on a residential building in a small town and the chemist on region. a warning to

a v was some i find the following images of assessing. as you can see in this for tips. the missile destroyed a private house, lots of windows and roles, local officials, that'd be a talk was tired out with a u. k supplied store shut of pits and the 2 as in the instance as a whole lot the allow to another ukraine. you know, it's not going to residential area in don't boswell and civilian has been killed and another wounded in t as late as strike on the don't. yes. for public policies. women cause the repairs on the scene. maria problem that was sleeping in her bed. when that ukrainian shelf struck her house, this is where she was sleeping right at this place. this try took place that around 4 pm. you can see bullet holes right here or rather shrapnel holes from multiple launch for all kids system.