you've done, your precaution has been questioning the authority of the russian military come on for a long time. but he has always said that he is on the side of russia, and he answers to the russian people and to the russian president vladimir putin himself. this is the only authority that he agreed to admit and to accept. so now, well again, vladimir put and made it very clear. uh what he thinks about this. uh, gamble of you've given you precaution. yeah, i mean ball as a volume out of the box and cheaper. yeah, kevin. yeah. can you precaution, he's appeared in the video of hire to conducting talks with russia's deputy defense minister and military intelligence chief in rural cellphone. don't use that claim, but his troops have taken control of our local field and a military come on center as well. so we're at the headquarters at 7 30 am. rest of this military facilities, including its air fields, were taken under control, plains, leaving for combat as well as humanitarian flights are working. as usual,

there's been no problems with allowed to bloss has been heard in the southern military district in ross stuff. we understand. well, some of the pictures here of locals. uh well you can see right the running away from the scene its uh its after a heavy bog not military presence was established essentially around dropped off the military command center. the regions governor has been hosting people just a well state of correspondence is a roman cause of reference in the epicenter. he brings us this report that we just heard a loud back here at the headquarters of the headquarters here. we're just going to wait for this place as soon as possible or people are running, i guess. so we can slow down. right now we because we've got a way for you guys from what do you think about everything was

changed the 1st time i see this thing, we just heard a loud bang this way over to started running right. meanwhile the large file has broken off at the oil depot in the city of what all you know is right that you can see the smoke for yourself. the front us down to roughly a 1055 is the best thing the seeing as of now, no casualties reported. but we do have this local report of the district usage and it's about 1232 residents of the left bank of floor on the a sure the strong glass of the sirens was heard as far as the trucks and the nebulous threw down the streets. now even from the city center, you can see smoke rising from the entrance to the city. judging by the read the on social networks, the cause of the fire was

a helicopter crash. the governor confirmed the fire, the oil facility has been extinguished. more than 100 firefighters to attend to the sea, but what you, according to initial data are there are no victims, no video of the explosion, and for it begin to appear before any official conformation. and the same time authorities confirmed variational incumbent activities in the region of the entry of where i can have private military company formations. the counter terrorist operation has been implemented in the region. the russian authorities qualified this as an on to evaluate. all right, so a coming out of moscow right now, they are russian ministry of defense is, are calling the ongoing events, quote precautions, criminal adventure, saying that many wagner soldiers have apparently already laid down their weapons and their urging others to follow their eggs. we appeal to the friday, so the vote in the bmw csl squats. you have been series into precautions, criminal, adventure, and participation in the insurgency. many of your congress from several units have

already realized their mistake seeking help to ensure the safe return the replaces of permanent deployments. such assistance on l bought has already been provided to all the fighters and commanders who have requested it. we ask that you show discretion and get in touch with the representatives of the russian minister of defense or law enforcement agencies. as soon as possible. we guarantee everyone's safety. meanwhile, this being rather a lot of activity in a rush, who is of dennis of the north authorities have confirmed the pmc wagner offices in saint petersburg. they have been rated by law enforcement. we understand the other wagner. assets in the city have also been seized with security in st. petersburg also placed on a high unless we have the details right now. he was a onto correspond the shape of this morning in the city. we did a visit several of mister precautions, ad business premises,

and we can confirm that several of them have now being rated and taken under control of the f s b and here of partners. impressive corporate h q at just on the outskirts of st. petersburg, a significant military and security operation is underway and we believe the premises have been seized and are being searched at the moment. of course st. petersburg is a city of origin of, of, uh you have danny pedagogy and this elusive, an interesting entrepreneur of qualified as a pharmacist initially and then progressed into various businesses which culminated in 2015, which is foundation of the wagner, p. m. c. a private military contractor, which has grown into a very significant military force, of course, famous for it to work in back much fast. so in st. petersburg, the city is com a. there's a, there's a large ash, jude and celebration on somebody which hasn't been canceled. people are getting on with their business, but there is

a sense that at the kremlin and the government in moscow, particularly now that we've heard present improvements and set out, is still very clearly about the position in moscow. regarding mr. per goshen. and wagner, st. petersburg is quiet, but as we can see at the assets on the premises that belong to mister per goshen, we can tell you that we have seen a f s b specialist and to those areas. now of course i'll to you is based right, the headquarters in moscow. and we can tell you right now, the local authorities have announced a counter terror operation introduced here in the capital. the old mass public events in moscow have the council of a situation on the streets is come the most good man. it says there are no restrictions on entry or extra thing of the capital. although we can confirm there are a number of check points in effect. not as a police cortez was seen escorting military vehicles near the kremlin. the very

early hours of saturday morning and made reports of ongoing clashes in the south of russia. the russian president has held telephone calls with the the presidents with better roofs, which bancwest on and catholics on. and that size, the heads of multiple russian subjects and russian officials have been openly voicing best support to the russian president, have a, have a listen for yourself. the good thing about dina bocavicius has always been with the russian presidents and today every citizen of the republic expresses their full support through the president of the russian federation. legendary, put in, no one is allowed to trample into the mob the names of all the songs with guy defended no far. the ones who do i protect and future generations and them up. so let's see. sure that the situation will stabilize, the president will exercise his powers in full and companionable car, as always, will stand beside him. everything that is happening is a knife in the back and the real mutiny. i have repeatedly warned that war is no

design for voicing personal grievances and resolving disputes behind our lines. it's about stability, about the gauging of the state, about the security of citizens. there is no justification of such actions. i fully support every wood of light to move our marriage boots in the fighters of the municipal defense. and the russian national guard in the church of republic have already said of the areas facing intentions will do everything to preserve the unity of russia and protect it statehood. the senate, the timber regions, supports the president fully the guarantor of the constitution and has a clear understanding of how important it is to have responsible and consolidated position from the whole of society, residents and leadership of all subjects of the federation. without exception in this current situation. well the, i was, the media picked up the story pretty quickly. headlines that talking about a to,

but also quoting some unverified information that they know they, they did add some fuel to the media fi on a royce. as for one post an article, the citing a source, and for me, the agency that wagner had taken over the city of what all you edge information that had been officially denied by those of tardies in the city. that's what we are the, the host of the silk and steel pod costs a college job wasn't a studio audio talking to my colleague peter scott. he gave his thoughts on the latest developments of the pmc wagner group. and this rebellion. oh, or what? some people to coordinate that of a military noose in a, a precaution that has always been working outside the system. you know, we seen at the bottom of mood operation that he was already a boy, seeing his discontent, old quite openly. and i think it's only a natural conclusion, because at the, at the end of the day, p mc, wagner cannot exist outside. i said, as a military force outside of the russian defense for long. i mean that's,

that's not normal i use or they will be absorbed or they'll be disbanded. and apparently he doesn't like that prospect and he's making almost a desperate a bid, too. i don't think you would change, make up much of a difference. how could he expect anything else? i did. the fact is that it's not the way i would do it. if i you don't, you don't go on august. your intention to change to voice your, your different opinions with the russian establishment in russ stuff on the down, which is 13 hours drive from moscow. right? you do it when your tanks already moscow, you are sitting and kremlin as you announced the change, the management. but now, 1st of all, we already know he doesn't have the support of the russian military because precautions 1st said his reason is because his troops have been shout by the russian, margery, okay, great. you don't have the support of the russian military. you have 25000 troops. that's great. do you have air support?

no, i mean, what are you going to do with the armor columns on the open flattering of russia without air support? you're sitting ducks, and you're still searching the hours away from moscow. he is not in a good, very good position right now, given this is present a situation that means the russians, i probably will not launch a major country office if by the same time the, the so called training office, if i so we have seen is, has be a total, yes go, they came out and they got demolished. i those things are in any shape or form to long show another one and you say, do i say, you know us? i don't, i don't think they will, can expect different results on the last time, you know, last time they came out with armor columns, white in the open space without air support was minimal. artillery support and predictable way. they got demolished, they submit to it again. you what just happened 2nd time, there's a presidency often results to historical comparisons. really the end is the

description of current events and in his address to the rest of nation. today that we had just over an hour ago, he did, he decides part of those with the, the 1917 revolution and the chaos that was created in rush reducing. that's a fact a lot, a comparison of the similar similarities with today's events. it's interesting, mister putting made a reference to the 1917. the bolshevik revolution and the fact is pre goshen. what does he have? well, you know, he's not living in it, doesn't. he doesn't have a coherent etiology behind him. what he has his money, he's pain, group of mercenaries who can straight from prison. they are under his command because he's paying for the bills and the, you know, you can, you can expect mercenaries to be loyal. they will not be loyal, as long as they're getting paid. right. and they're, they're not going to be charging the criminal in for some 80 hours for hire etiology. illogical goes. so, you know, this, i, this is, it's, you know,

it's often said history repeats, you know, uh 1st those tragic events as far as we're at the farce level right now. yeah. as i said, she's actually not in a great situation right now because right now is there's a open break between him and the russian government, and especially with mr. putting his speech or you know, on a certain no, no, i'll a certain times, put an extra point out. this is a rebellion. this is against the russian state and we will put a stop to that. and i don't, i just don't see what kind of support precaution would have, you know, behind his little little whatever, what he calls it. and, and he is right now if he claims to control raw stuff on the don. great. what, what he's going to do is going to venture out and send his armor calm to moscow, where they can easily be slaughtered by the, by the russian air force. i mean,

the search is his trapped is trapped. all right, so what do we know so far? it seems the private military company, bob. no, this being so successful in the ukraine conflict, particularly in recent weeks. this staging an apparent, military newton, the demonic major changes in russia's upper echelons of the ministry of defense. the group chief, you have any precautions leading must go for all of this present uprooting. closer to a stop is the we have unconfirmed reports of sculptures and dropped off on going outbreaks and violence with helicopters and board all judge old huntington funds for now your minutes, 5 minute updates ready for you to be done the so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy from foundation. let it be an arms race is on all sides. very dramatic. the only

personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk the russian states never as tight as i'm sort of the most sense community. not getting all sense and the speed you else calls question members, even though we will fan in the european union, the kremlin machine, the state on the russians to day and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube tv services for the question, did you say they requested

the gist of it? as for the story to avoid mutual him, which alone would use is not a simple device. the blue it go? it is yes. yeah. oh, you go just in the to a new one and then the last when you really yes. well people for, for lose vision like no one that's always focused city. one you uh, let's do a virtual assistant for us to move the

stick with them just to see what we can move you to do is just let us know before they put them. the shirts, no worries, no or would you? but as little as you can with a little system with the needs still to with the clear the account, right. and then the kicker back on $9.00 and i'm with national people . the flow of my son will be sufficient. let me have some fish. refresh the list to see live the

file. rick sanchez and you know, i've been doing news now for what 30 years, 2 different languages all over the world. and here in the us, i've interviewed for president's front of the $1000000.00 business, and i believe new should be honest, direct, and impactful. and that's why we call this show direct impact. the i want to start by showing you some pictures that are going to be hard to take your eyes off of both because it's hard to look at them because it's hard to look away. i mean, tell me, as you look at some of these, see this, they almost looks real. don't say these are gang members, but not just any gang members. many, if not, most of them belong to the notorious criminal government us out about through job. busy m. s, 13 is, are often referred to credited with being one of the worst gangs of the western

hemisphere. and you know what they look at. huh. they look at the government of all, salvador has been rounding them up more than 60000 of these characters. and they've built a prison and that's going to house as many as $40000.00 of them. think about that for a minute. a prison for 40000 criminals, mostly gang members, all who seem to look eerily similar. there are 2 things that i find striking about these images as i'm looking at them, maybe youtube, the tattoos and the crouch. i mean, look how the shuttle from place to place in the most and dignified way. they're not allowed to look up. it's as if they're, they're so dangerous, and by the way, most would argue that they are, which is why they don't want them even making eye contact. and now let's talk about the exaggerated face of the neck and the body tattoos which are in a strange and almost ironic way identifiable markers for these gang members. but

tattoos are in some ways how they reportedly flaunt their membership in the gang, is self identify, right? it's also a sign, a deposition or the hierarchy in the gags. i didn't know that until i read up on it . these images of masses of human beings and this almost movie like setting spaces so perfectly un handled. so machine like. so the humanizing, it says bizarre as anything we've ever seen. and the fact that the president of el salvador president not able kelly is committing to this even if it means violating their constitutional rights. seems. busy well, you know what, in some ways understandable, and in another way kind of worries some but what makes this story even more interesting is a geo political angle, which comes with history really? well, let me tell you what the problem originates in

a peculiar and very circular way in the united states, where many of these gang members come to and where they were once jailed, and then deported. and how did they get to the us to begin with? they migrated to the united states over the past several decades when their countries were racked by wars and crews, and most of all outside interference from i hate to say it, but from us from washington in defense and for defense of multinational interest. one example, i'll just give you one, but us encourage the civil war in guatemala, as we did because we didn't like the country's democratic, democratically elected president that goes back to the 1950s, but the war lasted until 1996. and in the 1980 is our government destabilized other countries like el salvador for re, for necessary reasons, are kind of gone. would say our state department would say combined all of these

wars let do the depth of hundreds of thousands of people in massive migration moves in the us. those immigrants, mostly poor in the world, had a hard time fitting in many joint gags and were eventually sent to jails where they became hardened criminals. eventually they were deported back to their countries as gang members. and that is where this vicious cycle really takes all. i can't get through this, i explain this to you because i think we think it's important. always go beyond the headline and explain the genesis of the stories like this because otherwise you're never going to know. you just see it on the local news is something gang, but murder killed another game. remember we do this to better understand how we got to this point and i think it's important, you know, who else thinks it's important? i want to introduce you to a lease or a lease or loo rodriguez, as we would say here, that in the states as we all have our names angela sized or americanized he,

he's an urban piece leader and often referred to as a gang interventional list. you know what he cares about this. he's also a writer. he's a poet. uh, he's a community activist and someone i've had the pleasure of talking to before. so i, i bring him so he can give us a really, you know, on the ground perspective on this situation. we thank you so much for joining us. thank you. my pleasure. i guess you, i got to start with the pictures of when i 1st saw these videos, i've never seen anything like it. it looks almost surreal. i use the word dehumanizing. what's, what was your impression when you looked at these pictures of these, of this round up of all these guys in el salvador and these present their building for him? well, they're meant to demonize them. and there's a lot of things they do. that's wrong. i'm not justifying gang members doing what

they do well, people don't realize or is that these are human beings and you wouldn't be integrate capacity. and i know because i work with gang when we like them. i've actually worked with m. s. 13 and 18 street. i've actually been to a solve adult for over 30 years. i've gone there working with them. i rented 10 presents. i've been to whether my life been imagined on doris. i spend many years and many people. so i know the kids that are hurting tomba, ties and common ties in others. they need to be given a lot of care to me. it's not about just putting them away. it's about giving them what i call the it's tougher to care for me than tougher to be on. uh, you know, just be a tough guy with them. you know, when, when look at it has done, has created a big, okay. and the guy presents and they got more arms, it's always done. and so yeah, you can fight these guys with a bigger gang, it, it was done in united states. you know, the 1st things united states,

especially industrial, united states, were irish immigrants and eastern european immigrants and italian immigrants. they were the kids that were parts, didn't have anything. they came and worked in the was, you know, come or jobs and, and guess what happened to it became gangs too, but don't you have to let me but i, but i'm just thinking, as i'm, as i'm listening to you, say this, i'm thinking and i'm looking at these pictures, these guys i'm, you know, with these guys look so hard. i mean, it's almost like it gets to a point where i'm not sure you say everybody is sell salvageable on, you know, gods are, and i get that, you know, and i'm a catholic and i understand. but does it get to a point where they're almost like impossible to be able to salvage with, i mean, look at these guys, they think, well, that's a good question. and i think if it needs to be answered and i agree with that, i mean i wasn't know, solve it on 22 and the violence went down. 70 percent. they're talking about the virus going down like 50 percent. now the bottoms went down even further. why?

because there was an effort to bring these gangs together to have a piece to get them to this arm cuz i was witnessing when they were turning over all of their guns. i also helped create it wasn't just me were others because as soon as that process you would do that was owns were created in these vials where m . s. 13 and a can speak, could come together. they could do garden ridiculous skills. they did murals, they couldn't work together and actually help but faith that was completely undermined by the us government because i, i, i saw what happened us government put this thing. you can do, this can work with gags. you can't negotiate with gangs. and then the sour during government at the time, it wasn't, look at it at the time, the story to know all of the store and those worked on it. and it went back to work for the students. is that you said something interesting in other solutions could be try, try to get to them before they become a hard and try and get to the younger ones, you know, teach them new skills and yet it's always seemed to me and i've always believed

that we should put more money in recreation and cultural development in education. it seems like we lose you and i live in a country now where every thing is about a police action and military is ation. and i think maybe that has to do with money . i don't know, it seems like some people think it's it's, it's more efficient, easier and certainly more profitable to just stick them in jail than it is to help them. right, but we're just thinking about what's happening with this big prison issue to present outside of the largest and americans. apparently, 40000 people can be held there. that's what i hear. well, they can, they're going to be held for 30 years, at least. maybe their whole lives. let's say it's $20000.00 per person because in united states and in california, it's like $46000.00 to hold. a person in inmate in prison for one year had of 270000 in california of 270000. so what happens and also i wonder when you have to

pay 20000 say it's not quite 40020000. it's billions of dollars to keep people locked up away from the end and you know what? they're still human beings. something's going to happen with them, and that's what happened in california. we created, disagree. the housing unit. we created a super max. is that a now that they're being re looked at because they actually did more damage by people came out more worst than when they came in. i see where you're going here though, and i'm just doing the math in my head. obviously. if it costs $46000.00 minimum to keep a person in prison in california. if you had from the very beginning. and i know this is crazy because it's a lot to give them, but giving them the $46000.00 and created a job opportunity for them. i don't know the thing is the money, but given them the job and they probably would not have become gang members or maybe i wouldn't become, i guess i'm, i'm hoping you know. oh yeah. well,

we used to say, and this came out of the 92 uprising, los angeles when blood encrypts were actually you're not even with mexicans. people don't know that probably they only know about the violent. they don't know that people are trying to get together and they had a statement, give us a hammers and the nails, and we were, we bought our communities that can we use a powerful statement when nobody took them up on it? nobody gave what, okay. can we bought our roads? can we build new housing and the better schools give us the skills and i'll tell you, it wasn't me. i wasn't game. remember, i would get a book. always do any best selling book here. again, a book called calls you back about what i went through. my own son was an a gang of chicago. it's. busy almost 15 years in prison, there were both doing good right now. we're helping others. we change people's lives. and i've been doing this for many years. and i remember in the early seventies when we were getting hard called gang members, because you either got tell me that these kids and missed their team. they're hard core. but i've met hardcore people, but only i, i've gotta say we can change their mind at least

a going. you're going to think less of me for saying this, and i apologize if you do. but i have to say it because i think it's something everybody else would think when they watch this. i'm looking at new lease. i don't see gang member, i don't see task and remember, you have like a decent guy. somebody is dad. maybe somebody is grand dad. when i look at these guys with those tattoos on their faces. yeah, well, i kind of me, when i was 16, you would have seen the same thing i don't have typed was of my faces, but all those tattoos came okay. let's just go back to that you kind of which i know by true cause we're round it up in the thirties and forties people forget about that. they were rounded up and put in special and she kind of tanks these. we have to kind of taken the county jail. mexican americans means mexican american. yeah, no, a los angeles actually. yeah. and they were rounded up and by the 50s they created the 1st and largest prison gangs that became quite active in criminal activity. they became bigger that all the things that.