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straw sovereignty and independence for right to be agreed to remain in russia. a country with a 100 year old history. yeah. what you, it's a battle with the sites of all nation is being decided much and it causes us all to be united with unity is up consolidation and responsibility. and everything that makes us weak our must be put aside. right. any differences that may be used in all used by all enemies, to disrupts us from within the shades of the actions that splits all unity um, basically renegade options against those fights and at the front of the city. that's the, it's a stop in the box against our country and all nation for looks of this stop was dealt to russia in 1917 while the country was fighting and well, well, why don't we do it? it's victory was stolen from it. so what would that, what intrigues and bickering behind the nations box turned it into a great catastrophe and actually get you elect to the destruction of the army on the collapse of the states. but it was the last boss territories. and the tragedy
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of the civil war, it was that when russians went against russian easy enough. and when i'm bravo wins against bravo. even though in various adventure, wisdom foreign false is profitable amounts of them and told the country a possibility to get a we will not let that happen. again. we will defend our country and all states hoods from any threads, including internal treason availability. what we are facing now is the reason you don't need big emissions and personal interests may have led to the betrayal of one's country. one's nation. and the cost of which boxes fights is and commodities were fighting along with the armed forces of the towns and villages of don't boss where they fall and gave their lives to the new russia to the unity of the russian . well, the name and glory have been betrayed by those who were trying to organize in on for 1000000000, which pushing the country towards on a key on fratricide. and ultimately, to defeat and capitulation between new repeat, any internal rebellion, which is
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a deadly threat to all state. to us as a nation of the and b, it's a blow against russia. you again saw people, i don't action to defend all my beloved. again, such a threat will be harsh. you is a couple of old eyes who deliberately went on the path of treason. i prepared an on verbally and you end up preparing terrorist attacks with a negatively be punished about very so they will build, held accountable by little by silk. you've done the bus beyond full system, given the necessary orders. display is reading is an additional empty terrace security measures have been posted most got the most are region and a number of other regions, stuff with a decisive measures will be taken to stabilize the situation in brussels on dawn, which still remains difficult. of the, what of the civil and military organs of governance is essentially blocks away. a moving is as president of russia now come on demand chief as a citizen over russia. i will do everything in my power to defend the country,
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to defend its constitution. and the lives of security and liberties of its citizens . with those who organized and prepare the on for 1000000000 tons weapons against they come back. come right. so we go. betrayed russia to look we will be held accountable for that. you can give them to those who are being drawn into this. when that goes, then i called upon you not to repeat the grave and tragic mistakes and salt in any participation in these criminal actions order from the see what i'm sure that we will defend and protect. what is the insight put to us together with all mother lands? we will either come any all deals with becoming even stronger a get through. i'm going to say for you're getting, if it goes in as in either accusations of freedom play me. he was saving the country from ruling while blaming the moves of defense for the current in prices. so how does a few between volga and the russian bras escalate to me today? i'd say that ego isn't of breaks down how it all sauces. a quick reminder,
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it will begin on friday when we had done the founder of the wagner group. you've given you pre gordon, he accused the russian defense minister yields shelling one of its trainings sites deep on the home front. the russian defense ministry denied all such claims. they said that while the video that was posted by the telegram channels affiliated with the wagner groups, uh, which reported to show the aftermath of the shelling, they said it was fake and that nothing of the sort happened. but you can you for gordon? he was already hell bent on uh, continuing and it is now now that in hindsight it can be we can say that he had it all planned in advance. and this is like a, it's like a chess game for him. and he did obviously saw that a few moves ahead, although the of us so off is on the fold in a rough stove of the rebels has residence a. so most of the, if it demands were not met the region known as naep,
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it was the last area with bob and image hardware had been supported. the regional government released a statement saying law enforcement agencies and authorities were taking all necessary measures to ensure the safety of citizens an attempt to hold the appliances back some roads with policy does up. i've been requested in the thirty's . the, the thing that moves forces will also seen in the next. i'm m. i ate a ton chevy go to is reported a made a hard landing with one person injured in the isn't the as office believe. have been taking pause in buffalo and russian. i all me and the fights is aside from that the photo says the on social media report and the showing the debris of a k a 50 to any of the which is the claim to have been shut down by the volume of the roof in the city of austin as itself, is important to prove who killed so long as either those or what was the attempted
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to suit the another. the russian army heavy called to the asphalt however, is said to have deployed deeply flat as to divert the missiles also. and the large fire has been raising as an oil depot. more than a 1055 has sent to buy some of the things i'm prevents it's funding to other nearby storage tanks, most casualties, wherever the 4th is. so it falls is where they put in the russian capital to secure the highway is leading into this as a back a is a set of axes, took up potential firing positions that since easy points measured equipment. it was, it was uh, moving through uh the since he was on the plus and the carriers, stationed along highways. now the bar. okay, the engines have been removed as a situation has stabilized with this might need save to pc and tablets. how does it measures declared by local officials will continue to be in place as opposed to the
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chairman of the russian and says, posted seasonal committee mostly is. matt has said no restrictions on engine oil leaving the city. and the situation has remained peaceful in the streets, but as of a person by skilled public events with his fund a several transforms a set up on the outskirts of the russian capital media below the politicians. i've also been won by authorities that gave the sourcing official information, was man has to come monday, a non working day. i don't know security services on high or low and the counter terrorism or operation in order to minimize risk, we have decided to declare monday, a non working day, with the exception of authorities in essential services, the military industrial complex city services. we ask you to refrain from traveling around the city as much as possible. traffic may be blocked in certain blocks and on certain roads, city services are operating on high alert. things are
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a little bit different as russian president vladimir put announced earlier, anti terrorism measures have been put into place here in moscow, but also in the greater moscow region. and we have reports of checkpoints that have been set up and also national security personnel that are on alerts. now these anti terrorism measures have also been stood up in a nother city. but on this, which is about part way between here in moscow and rush to fund on, where wagner group fighters faced off against russian military earlier. now, what exactly does this mean? what are these measures? well, the last time they were used was in 1991 during and attempted to by a communist party hardliners against then president mikhail gorbachev. and they're really, really rarely used, but exceptionally in this particular case. and what they mean is that
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checkpoints are set up that interception of communications, including email and telephone calls can occur. searches of bags or cars can occur at tech points. people can also be asked to produce identification. so these measures are really exceptional. but um, for now, people are out and enjoying the weather and things don't seem to be too much different here in downtown laska. it's made a lot of other assets so such as these as are, these have been from the goods offices and as in petersburg, have been rated by law enforcement security policies in the city of also have been placed on the highlights all to say those report from the scene this morning in the city, we did a visit several of mister precautions, ad business premises,
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and we can confirm that several of them have now being rated and taken under control of the f s b and here of partners. impressive, corporate h q a just on the outskirts of st. petersburg, a significant military and security operation is underway. and we believe the premises have been seized and are being searched at the moment. of course in petersburg is a city of origin of, of the you've gainey pedagogy. and this elusive and interesting entrepreneur of qualified as a pharmacist initially and then progressed into various businesses which culminated in 2015, which is foundation of the wagner, p. m. c. a private military contractor, which has grown into a very significant military force, of course, famous for it to at work and back much fast. so in st. petersburg, the city is tom, there's a, there's a large ash, jude and celebration on somebody which hasn't been cancelled. people are getting on with their business, but there is
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a sense that at the kremlin and the government in moscow, particularly now that we've heard present, improve, set out, is still very clearly about the position in moscow. regarding mr. goshen and wagner, st. petersburg is quiet, but as we can see at the assets on the premises that belong to mister per goshen, we can tell you that we have seen a f s b specialist center. those areas to the tech is president, has held a phone call with a lot of other things. first thing is to pull the rest of the, the is also said to been in touch with the heads of neighboring states, including is back installed on catholic hassan to keep them updated on events. however, the russian form is the time. so as in the other countries appear to be watching with glee, the mutiny plays into the hands of russia's external enemies. we will in western countries against any hints about the possible use of the internal russian situation to achieve the risk of phobic goals. our country will continue its silver
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and cost to insure it security, protect these values, strengths, and it will start to in the international arena and form it just multi pull the world older lesson main same ada didn't take long to pick up the story with headlines, speculating on a to i'm quoting and verified information, i didn't feel to the media fire. well, it is for his own home person also. so i think his soul failing long enough taking control of the city of born is this flight that being denied by regional officials . for now, western intelligence are said to be just monitoring the other for the events in russia with few giving any official reaction. but headliners have been speculating when the quote puts an error will be over and whether he'll be spun. we spoke with george so many of the global policies in june. he was at western powers of good
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faith. it slipped internal divisions in russia when it comes to western intelligence among the small, the big isn't western intelligence. they know how to exploit divisions. and they know that the most effective way of explore these divisions in russia is to support the single russia nationalist. oh, these are the real people. they a real rush or natural, the real russian patry it. yeah, they don't really like boots in a so, you know, why don't we exploit the anger and the rage against the fulton. and essentially they will be doing out though, if you would, but you know, they'll, they'll be able to bamboozled people by this or power. ensure patrick is we are the real pass. if you, great attendance of the west decides, hey you, this is a great opportunity. why don't we try to exploit this, um, uh, for our own and that could backfire on them. i mean, you know, they,
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they could well miscalculate then the brain obviously has made a number of miscalculations. the counter offensive was 31 miscalculations. nato is notorious, were giving bad advice. so if they do budge ukrainians, hey, they take your chances. this could be 1917 all over again, complete russian collapse and german victory. they do what you need. i think that could let blow up in nato space. the russian people, i think, don't want to go back to the 19 ninety's. and also as far as the russian, people are concerned, they don't like military coups. it's never really been a russian tradition to have um, military crews. they want civilian control and above all, you know, whatever their frustrations about this includes the war in ukraine, fulton and it's still very popular. and the referee people have a lot of trust inputs. and so any attend by uh, goshen to take on the boot into displace boots in will be rebuffed. i don't see
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that you would get any real following. and i'm, i think the conclusion will be of brutal in his violence as the, the 1993, the storming of the parliament was in the face of the moods, the russian authorities of bon websites leading to the group saying that they were inciting violence among those restrictions are a number of outlets belonging to the patriot media group and various communities also. so media was a self in a still pub costs for the honest and is still in college. i spoke with my colleague petersburg and gave his thoughts on the latest developments production that has always been working outside of the system. you know, we seen at the bottom of mood operation that he was already a voice in his discontent. oh, quite openly. and i think it's only a natural conclusion, because at the, at the end of the day, p mc,
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wagner cannot exist outside. i said, as a military force outside of the russian defense for long. i mean that's, that's not normal. i use or they will be absorbed or they'll be disbanded, and apparently he doesn't like that prospect and he's making almost a desperate a bid, too. i don't think he will change, make up much of a difference. how could he expect anything else either? the fact is that it's not the way i would do it right. you, you don't, you don't go, i'm not just your intention to change to voice your, your different opinions with the russian establishment in russ stuff on down, which is 13 hours drive from moscow. raw, you do it when your tanks already moscow, you are sitting in kremlin as you announced the change in management. but now, 1st of all, we already know he doesn't have the support of the russian military because precautions 1st said his reason is because his troops have been shout by the russian lot. right. okay,
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great. you don't have the support of the russian military. you have 25000 tube. that's great. do you have air support? no. oh, i mean, what are you going to do with the armor columns on the open flattering of russia without air support? you're sitting ducks and you're still searching the hours away from moscow. he is not in a good, very good position right now, given this present situation, that means the russians, i probably will not launch a major counter office if by the same time the, the so called craning or offensive i. so we have seen it has to be a total of yeah. so they came out and they got demolished on those things. there isn't any shape or form to launch another one and you say, do i say, you know, yes, i don't, i don't think they will, can expect different results on the last time, you know, last time they came out was armor columns, white in the open space, without air support was minimal artillery support and predictable when they got
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demolished, they submit to it again. you what just happened. second time, there's a presidency. he often results to historical comparisons with the and he is a description of current events. and in his address seat of a nation today, it is such a part of those with the, the 1917 revolution and the chaos that was created in rush reducing. that's a fact, a lot of comparison, very similar similarities with today's events. it's interesting, mister putting made a reference to the 1917. the bolshevik revolution and the fact is pre goshen. what does he have? well, you know, he's not living in it, doesn't. he doesn't have a coherent etiology behind him. what he has his money, he's pain, group of mercenaries who came straight from prison. they are under his command because he's paying for the bills and the, you know, you can't that you can't expect mercenaries to be loyal. they will not be loyal. as long as they're getting paid right. and they're, they're not going to be charging the criminal in for some 80 hours for hire
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etiology. illogical goes. so you know, this, i, this is, it's, you know, it's often said, history repeats. you know, uh 1st those tragic events as far as where at the farce level right now. yeah. as i say, she's actually not in a great situation right now because right now is there's a open break between him and the russian government. and especially with mr. putting his speech or you know, on a certain no, no, i'll a certain times, put an extra point out. this is a rebellion. this is against the russian state and we will put a stop to that. and i don't, i just don't see what kind of support precaution would have, you know, behind his little little whatever, what he calls it and, and he is right. and obviously he claims to control raw stuff on the dung. great. what, what he's going to do is going to venture out and send his armor calm to moscow, where they can easily be slaughtered by the, by the russian air force. i mean,
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the search history is trapped. it is trapped. the last of the top stories for this news hour and as always is great to have your company will be back in just on the 30 minutes. the i'm action or time see and welcome back to going on to grab. we'll go single around the world from you by in the you a, do you remember the famous words of and they do as president ronald reagan, new k will cannot be won in less than ever before to afford decades on from that address. you as president joe biden, this week declared, the threat of tactical nuclear weapons use is real stuff in short of saying the end
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of the world is imminent. and just as russian nuclear weapons were being delivered in belarus, a former adviser in president putin's administration made global headlines on the war in europe after quoting for nuclear strikes in order to save humanity process today, kind of gone off on re channeling of the presidium of russia's council for foreign and defense policy was the advisor, and he joins me now exclusively from moscow for an exclusive interview. thank you so much. that provides a guy got a fire coming on the show more then the beller was a delivery of russian tactical nuclear weapons. your article in roger and global affairs. crazy. the headlines, as i said, seymour hersh devoted a sub stack to it. he runs that column where he expose the north stream attack by the, by the administration. just briefly summarize for audience what you actually said about the need to attack, use nuclear weapons to attack european cities to end this war. and perhaps to save more people than they would kill. yeah, the actual,
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i didn't polls for you use of nuclear weapons. of course. i mean, i said that unfortunately of all kinds of reasons. where are we living through a few of your strategic for their presentations? 75 years of peace and let people forget about the horrors of war and the new blood disorders is uh, stopping to work. i mean, yeah, and think about these. i believe in the west coast. yeah. is ways you can get from the war on the borders, including the, all the new, a simple power that it was understandable. and also dig into the situation where the west is going and it is. we'll see that explanation model to take a look at nomics regulation and activation only means not by come to conclusion that the more we stay when more eminent a global nuclear war becomes,
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or so my advice for those, those people thinking about the issue is to dissuade the west to stop this war in the great retreat and then to do with their own met, hers instead of being up and the most of the and the more i'm not going for use of nuclear weapons. i have been towing people and a my why the older is that it we should start to climb the letter of neutral insurance and installation and only for us doesn't sound my oldest son come to his senses for the rest of the day. most of the united states, as a european is tomorrow, better of this juncture. i mean the only slate the most to come and come to the assumptions. the nuclear office can be used. that it just, you did say, but you did say that russia should strikes nuclear, using nuclear weapons in
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a number of countries in europe. and i should just take issue with the piece that you speak of in 75 years. most of a global sales audience. this thing in on this will nothing piece. i mentioned reagan earlier, they know central america that he was of the united states. and of course, you know, the us is still in syria and there hasn't been peace for 70 as just explain what the counsel for for an and defense policy is i think people wrongly say that you were an advisor to put in just explain the influence of this article has in russian policy thinking today because sometimes people just say, oh, you're right there, i was led to be approved and then you're advocating tactical nuclear weapon use on europe and countries. and it's all about to happen next week. and no, i'm in i'm, i'm another form of advisor or anybody and they have never been in that in, in government counsel important defense policies. the oldest probably communication
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in russia. um, uh, yeah. uh it is. they do 2 years old, mental and sliding immunization from the time it is a group of enter, berners journalists, thinkers of business. and i believe that they are responsible for the future or country. and to that issue, help to devise a strategic course. i mean, we have done that many times during our a long history. we also run many the sedation analysis for the government and uh for the public land and special research trying to influence public opinion. but do we a non governmental though? our son, well member's name, which i'm much responsible for the writings or other members or for reports of the, of the counsel are highest and fusions and i would venture likes and the levels
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before and many others. but it is not a governmental resolution. and i know that for more devices i'll get on. i think we've established, i mean, well, get on to some of your critics in, in russia. but do you think that your uniquely able to understand the stakes of this war in your a because at once you were a member of the us c, i a try that will commission as it was founded famously by roc a fella with the big they have brzezinski alan greenspan kissinger being a member of erik smith of google's, a gas tom with a british labor leader. you are once on that side. now your full on russian patriot, disappointed by the end of that global. that's why you work and understand what you understand. and can write an article like this, and i was always on the side of the russian city during the years 30 years
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ago, i believed that we could integrate with the restaurant to him to the west. and that'll do mean by the way, uh uh, i see uh my movement who should have saved the rest of the week after changes. so she forward of being a member of that community. but they didn't have on the whole, and the reasons really low otherwise and decided to insure russia weight. so of course, i participated in all of these institutional commissions and the english main per phone. the, i understand probably there was some thinking better than anybody in russia or, and many in the west. i mean, it is take something to unite alexander, duke, and whose daughter was assassinated by the nature of backed forces in a sense of all kinds. just a people like aragon over curious one day glorifying with the west and the next
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a extreme russian patriots. and of course the, by doing the national security council spokesperson said to the middle times that uh, it's reckless and irresponsible. you said your article i, i invited friendly and i'm, i'm friendly for our fire because i believe so. does my professional human the and uh, uh and, but you are the past due that because uh the issue is uh, really the life or death of civilization. and of course, a rush usually not tax. now of course, hopefully avoiding the use of nuclear weapons. but persuading the we're central and west with leaders who are degrading to stop and to retrieve of and the world war 3, the last one, the history of humanity and that will title and it is on the horizon i,
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i'm getting collusion pollution. so that is why i decided to write this article and to get my thoughts to which i have been circulating around in moscow for quite some by medical. these are degree with my false. so i'm disagree. so i'm agree, but you should republican, how many would your favorite killing using those tactical nuclear strikes to avert the mass killing of a full fledge really fledged, a global new capable. as i, as i said, i'm in the decision to use nuclear weapons, is a terrible model challenge. carol model decision, norway, it will charge us, or whomever will use it. and uh, but sometimes you have to choose uh, uh,
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before 5 minutes should just ask you to come uh, when you save the child. uh, to or revise the child will save you to manage it. uh, it is a philosophical, uh, terrible choice. but i decided to become unpopular, taking the choice of saving, which amount is there a cost analysis? one can do that. the rich in moscow field things are going terribly and the war is being the while it's expose a terrible situation. the men's gift cards being a lie, all those years of negotiations being wasted. while the vast majority of russia, the middle class is the middle class of the working classes, feel, you know what fine the rush is on. the map is a great country. again, not a week goes by have to say on this program that we show rusher is.

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