must have something about this. meanwhile, around 6 countries with birds, dominantly muslim population were bombed. for this very reason, take serious yemen. saudi arabia iraq, was there no bombing the were like situation developed in several countries with more than 26000 bombs being dropped? how anyone listen to them or trust them when countries making political decisions such as these bring allegations against india, who get comments on the bottom as a he is an office of the u. s. conducted as slight whole 7 different countries including iraq, serial progress done based on american most people since 911 the pen to the i'm scared up, maybe 100000. this dykes, some criticism of a bomb and came off of the former president, cooled up minority issues in india. if i had a conversation with prime minister movie, who i know, well, part of my argument would be that if you don't protect the rights of ethnic minorities in india, there is a strong possibility that india, when at some point start pulling and bought it really so with the present lovely,

imagine the institute who been a new done it will never remain a slot. and when it's internal affairs, of course the sized if you look back at india new reservations, they've been blowing closer. but it would be a little bit of time that all the, you know, some sensitive topics on which either us, one of the shows all lawmakers or something sank all the us view of the long voicemail a floating point that i, somebody just see them. they come on with this, i'm going to boards, which don't strike later on live in india. and india is now increasingly talking back with respect to such as papers which come up. so on the one hand, yes a it is something which is not at all will come in india. you know anybody sermonizing like doing india. but you know, we, in india, the reporter news to hitting such bobs and such comments from the us. see the big picture america looks up on itself as

a city on the other beacon on the top of the hill, which i'll forms the values of democracy. and when i'm a make up for most democracy outside in the word america, innovative looks to reinforce and its own sense that it hasn't multiple effect democracy. the reason in bows out and, you know, let's choose a summarizes others, regular spectrum, democracy. and so to, you know, topics large extent, i think, is driven by the social image of america and americans ribbon, they assume that they are the, the positive pre owned democracy. and there's that model review be to go low and if they don't follow them, then it will be between democracy. i think, fundamentally obsessed on this yes, the us seems that this is a lot. is matthew, possibly you, especially emily, for climate john kerry, for another good of double standards regarding washington's position on the invasion of iraq. you americans have committed a crime,

is aggression against the rock and the country to the south are asking it, should george bush be tried? why wasn't george bush tried properly? so you do you support this? no, no. because there's never been a direct process or accusation brought up against president bush himself. have there been abuses in the course of that works? yes. why isn't it a crime to invade iraq based on a lie? no. no, no, no. well, you didn't know it was a lie at the time. you know, the evidence that was produced, people didn't know that it was a lie that it was all but bush was lying. he was lying d because he, sir, i'm not going to read the bait. the iraq war with you here, right now. we spent a lot of time doing that. previously. i was opposed to going and i thought it was the wrong thing to do. but we gave the president the power redirected belief and the congress based on the light. and when we knew it was a lie, people stood up and did the right thing. people stood up and did the right there. as long as it's the same vase and all that rock in 2003 is walking along some more

with hundreds of thousands killed. it was all but you're still on claims of the country. you had to possession of weapons of mass destruction. however, that was later found to be unfit if it was sent to alice, i'm for making sure almost done and says k is deflection doesn't hold weights because the carriers party is now making that has this position. of course gary being the politician that he is and also i would say hypocrite, but he is, is now saying, well, you can compare the rock with this because of the rock where he's saying was not a war of aggression. when he said there was no direct charges like as in the beach meant or something. i mean, what, what does that even mean? because when it comes to a powerful countries like united states, basically there is no one to hold the united states accountable in the united states. people themselves don't have enough power over the federal government to

really hold, you know, these people accountable for war crimes or, or an unjust war. as, for example, things like this. um, so yeah, i mean, it doesn't really mean anything to say that he wasn't charged. i mean, johnson was in charge for the vietnam war. and you know, bush senior, wasn't charged for the, the 1st call for obama wasn't charged federal and strikes that cause it wasn't strong charges are being one. so it means it's kind of a silly thing to say jeremiah is for him is as hell of a thing with the south african count above, with the grand conflict dominating the agenda that they sold to supposed to focus primarily on energy and climate issue. but the inquiry and confidence ended up being a central topic ahead of a trip to south africa. john, for me is a, i'm a let a bad but voice, so intelligent advocate. and it will great to efforts from the concept to help you . planes depended on when the country of nelson mandela and desmond to to raises

its voice against injustice. the world listens. that is why. well, in pretoria, i also want to talk about how south africa can leverage its weight to help bring it in to rushes aggression in ukraine and to preserve the un charter. it says that i've written government hasn't insisted that it pro site assume a new tool to, in regards to the plain concept. it has even presented a potential piece fine. but some possible has a to south africa to secretly providing weapons to russia. and while south africa has denies that, i accuse ation is funding and so on the cruise to the by western powers as well as live now in the but alas, jackie said that he does have i for the jackie, thanks so much for joining us here today. at uh, see about these folks that were originally set up for to talk about energy, about climate change, what it was quickly to, to uh,

what was going on in euclid which is like a rose lead to remo, rose lead to the credit topic. what are your thoughts on this? is this was this done intentionally? absolutely. i think a of the west is getting somewhat impatient and more desperate. by the day. we also understand that there was some misplaced hope of the thought to attempt to cool by the fact that to see that, that also failed in not viewed the desired results. the is a great i can now in particular to basically sweep subsaharan africa and the on demand of instruments including manipulation, including the bribery using for entire investments as the character that's being handled that can be sent to that uh, the engine or the sub continent. uh oh,

oh tons its position in favor of the west and in so i thought a few came and some brochure that such an enormous investments went in the form of the transition to the just transition to a levels and all manner of things. i think back to the west is, is really reluctant to accept that there is a very sense, tons, principal stones that is being taken by many this particularly in the subcontinent . subsaharan africa to even though it may be called neutral. but everybody knows that in east, in fact, it is an alliance and alignment rather with russia. understanding that will important rules against the date was expansion in,

in europe, and the, the highest neil new and next isn't across the agent. and the importance outcome of that will have full global offense, especially in this particular historical moment. we're trying to emerge out of this unipolar world, that is a basic key controlled almost single handedly by my america to its progress is basically such as nature and you so africa understands that uh, that feature fashion. and that will, in many ways, can be seen as a re, quote, a nice ation of the west and renew in less than a century already know what that was like on the almost total, but not 20 on world affairs international relations by western europe and

africa does not want to go back to that kind of a good one, but also one of the forces is it is definitely a reg is an ebay some excellent point is i am pretty covered. pretty much all my questions. i was gonna ask you, this is if, if you put a cheat to see that, but i mean the put up with they came up with a piece 5 is the that, and they propose this, they, so it's a key. they said to most of the right doesn't germany see this as a way forward, isn't enough. uh, and they've also said that they want to be neutral. they've also been accused, by the way, by the us of supply russia with um, does that mean? do you think that the, the south africans are likely to take that a wilma look at what gemini aids target has to offer? no chance, no chance, i think, and even on the ground,

if you speak to ordinary. so africans on the prob, uh, because of history and also contemporary politics and international offense. how show is how good is it a high esteem? i wouldn't know so that if we can speak about uh gosh, i haven't no records of, of mid a ton of invasion or colonial adventures out the african continent of africa and speak about the great support that the liberation movement of the entire region. basically obtained from russia, whether in the form of in the form of finances in the form of training. uh, the, the freedom fighters, training them entirely opening ashes. uh, institutions of higher learning universities for you do need to often need to

obtain the necessary training and expertise. uh, so people are not that forgetful, you know, and so it's an unreasonable prop on time the war on the part of the west trying to paint the russia as pizza, troublemaker. and i press on the africans, holes away in particular of the agreement in terms of the destination, especially when the soviet union suits to exist sacraments between them so that you know, and nature on how nato was not sick today. it says in store for me. so i'm guessing data is renewal, and it is i gave those agreements to blocks are well, these things, and that's the hypocrisy. and that's

a bolton that the west is making. and it's no, no more interested in those conversations that the commitments that the russians feel instruments in terms of the job posting, particularly. and the simulations agents would not be disruptive of interrupted by west, by the west and mentality in the so complex, particularly in the form of, of nature. so these are all the nuances that deeply and change in the consciousness. a whole lot of people who are asking questions and who have seen also ration efforts in planning rise of nazis and one to, to take a huge and back to the hey days of a racist white supremacy. and petra, and you know, on minimal human rights violation on the basis of ethnic identity and race. and

these are all the things that peace loving people, pleasant to be conscious people jackie, i really don't see that last 2nd. i was just take this opportunity. so thank you very much for joining us here on, on the possibility that the declaration of independence analyst, i forget that russian forces have a lot of offensive operations on the northern front lines between entrance was said to have been driven out all the local ford. this was up to 90, sold is killed out footage posted by the mit shows the plain ships surrendering as russian forces approached, increment naya, trenches had been targeted without silly and verify the full power. troop is moved in several ukrainians with the same droppings o f. as all these english i know is on the front lines and setting up this report

with exclusive footage. it's, this is the best in of the 21st century, an intricate maze, stretching for several kilometers, folks, holes dugouts and firing nests, sprouting out of it all along the way, making the sold a tactical nightmare. but the russians have found a way to crack these defences. motors and howitzers have the say fast. the good keep troops scrambled to see who survived the needs 1st aid. those inside the trenches smuggled together, which very soon proves to be a bad idea. ukraine's ranks begin to full into disarray which allows russian to sol

teams to flank them and end to the trench. when key of fight is realize how close the enemy is. many choose to flee. those who don't get home to down like this machine gun, that's as tillery and the air force did not ukrainian reinforcements, any chance of arriving in time. but that didn't mean to get off the voice. the gross aviation carried out more than 40 sold each during which rocket and bump strikes, talk the stronghold temporary deployment points, storage sites, as well as concentrations of any man power and fire power. the movements of eunice with the support of an infantry fighting bacon of the crating on forces was revealed as a result of outside of rain as strikes the nation as sub insignificant losses among their ranks. bodies of keeps. soldiers summoned black bags, others in plain view on the ground, like around abandoned by the former brothers in arms. until this provides marry a glimpse into how terrifyingly bloody phasing is all across the ukrainian

front line. i'm a goose done of reporting from the dumbass t. a lesson decided smith, they also decided that soldiers have destroyed a hadaway re pass and so when the lead inflating regiment in those upper rosure region and all my personal carrier attacks can be helped us. we're also hit meanwhile, even less the media isn't put in a rush. just bring us efforts to support and kids counselor offensive with 17 of the new 13 bradley fighting vehicles suffice sofa said to be destroyed. always fun to full. not us, maureen. cooling tells us of as a start with a degrees you cleans offensive face difficulties from the outset. i think when you look at things from a realistic military perspective, the ukranian counter offensive never had a chance from a military point of view. they had insufficient troops,

they had insufficient training, and they lacked the, of the weaponry to, uh, to effectively suppress and defeat the russian defense is the only way that one could justify carrying out this, this counter offensive. you made certain assumptions about russian behavior that the russians were poorly trained, that the russian for poorly equipped that the russians reportedly led that the morale of the russian soldiers was low. so that the moment ukrainians appeared on the battlefield, the russians would run away. so that appears to be what the trainings were led to believe by nato, by the united states, by the british. that's the assumptions that appear to have been made in the ukrainian operational planning. and unfortunately for the ukrainians and their nato allies, reality was far different. the russians turned out to be very well lead,

very well equipped, very well trained and very well motivated. and as a result, the training and efforts have been defeated on the field of battle. as far as of this news, i've always, it's great to have your company. oh saw boy code is on the bottom. next time we'll be back. what's up with them? the the the, [000:00:00;00] the,

[000:00:00;00] the, the welcome to was a part. historically, any new technology has been matched with a mix of fear and excitement, but the advantage of artificial intelligence has created a new possibility of humans becoming redundant, if not completely obsolete would be a high revolution already on the way calculus to set the rules and the boundaries both for themselves and for that latest creation. well, to discuss that i'm now enjoying by g. l e s a n a i f, assist and an expert on in a i. mr. ellis is great to talk to thank you very much for your time. thank you very much for having me in this show on that. also for choosing this topic,

visit the video 11 does days. most of our absolutely. and a lovely start with the, perhaps a very personally biased question because, you know, after years of covering global politics and seeing how decisions are made and implemented, that have huge doubts about ethics because we live in a day and age. when the, the influence of vested interest is enormous. when i disregard, we don't just feel values but basic humanities all around. so i think it's very hard to believe that anything faces this costs can be implemented truthfully as a policy. what makes you hopeful about that? hello colby's lock, it keeps us going, right? rather rates, not just about technology, but in general. and i like that to be honest. i'm not that of domestic when yasu pointed out like, oh, how much will be the implementation bar when it comes to, right? because as we have seen, the ethics more, i think of watching or ethics while i say right. but somebody like to go minds they,

if you care about the ethics, right? i think in recently you'll see us all more about the creator of the be the coming and say, oh it does is scary, but then the rest and why did you release it? right. why, why? i mean, they've been building this adult. if you look at the original hoping i the whole company started to save your money from a i, and then you launch the store. i'm going to for the in between. and then you've got mine's, i'm worried about this thing. so this raises the question, right? how much, how much all worries, genuine, in this case us. so i'll be hosting from time to time. brother, we have talking about climate change or any of those things, right. it's, it's very difficult to get people behind on the go. uh or how do i say social goals and, but now that we are an upfront off, uh, let's the people who are losing job like a border maybe gilbert of this is being made by the stores. we have to do something about it. let's, let's talk about that in detail because, um, you also have a, someone geopolitical perspective because you mentioned that the,

i think the discourse of, for now at least, is dominated by the western perspective and soft pers, from a lack of diversity. can you give some examples of that? so uh, ethics is us up to the corporate culture, right? of how people both see you. so i kind of things is not the same. the other part of the word, the same vision with you. for example, i will give you 2 countries, claudia, and about these 2 countries i've shared. my goal is to our federal technology, right. and the job will be done to batch them together as is ation economic powerhouse is. but when you look at how they approach they, i did a recently it's, it's a totally different idea of where it's on. the korean policy makers has laid it out that a, i is a to it, right. it should be to how branded by a human. so let's have the extreme and of a spectrum. you know, i as a, do it as you like, jump on, they being, they have a role boards run, they how robots, i can go to the other. so it's a lot more. how do you say you go to bit technology right now,

the japanese documents tutors, and these days that we should look for building society by, by and all where humans a i, n roll woods reside together. so the extreme end of the spectrum. no, you're a big house um there in between rachelle and how it differs down bundle. do you as an hour difference, unbundle view, india that have a different starting point of view? your privacy right. the 2 comes to is done. go just i of are many people lives to live, enjoy the family. the idea of privacy may be very much different from lot and person in the house, right? oh, okay, but privacy is something that essentially directional within. but when we deal with the artificial intelligence, it's essentially dealing with the collective psyche because artificial intelligence feeds on the big data. um, you know, simple logically, you know, all societies are different because they, you know, approach was problems in a different way. and that's what creates genuine diversity if, as you say,

the current discourse and perhaps the current technology, to some extent is dominated by one strand of thought, one way of flies. isn't there a threat of extinction? north of humanity, but as these diversity within key humanity evidently, definitely. so there is this business part experimented enough? it also be under things but the tony problem right. you have a tony that is coming out of control. you have a new are and you can change the task of the 20 by pulling the tony by default is going to the left track there. find people are trapped and by pulling deliver you can change his direction to the right track. there's only one person who stop. so this question is, what do we do? that's impressive. now i keep asking this question, i know, or i need someone from a new country or a new region. i'll discuss and immediately it's quite clear if i offer specials or anyone from you or all, or do an extra for me to go, they will say they won't do anything. because 1st of all, the rope is generally st. by pulling the leave work, there might be one person to say, look like i like my present,

but they're more than one person, right? i are the same time. some people, the one person's life, easy, pretty valuable as a find people. but when you bring this question to india or china or somebody, you know, you should go to visit, finalize is always bigger than one. so this is now imagine this guy, not really the driving, got lots of bits of driving car. dude, i should act, administrators and like that. what is the philosophy? what uh miss ellis, this is a very interesting uh thought to experiment to consider, especially given again, the current state of jo pulls is because, uh, western countries historically have lunch for more wars with 5 bigger a. that's those them, any of these certain kinds of countries that supposedly i'm not concerned about the value of a single human life. now you politically, and i think you can only play as well. the world is moving away from western head, germany and towards more diversity towards multiple direct to do seem to same tribe

happening in the field all a i and i think one good example i think the vehicle think about they are people tends to avoid talking about china, because they've been doing some phenomenal work on increasing the best i not have done, but there's more i got a big was than us. right. there's even a thing that's i know he's leading. they are right now. who's looking to india also . yeah. it has like a totally different all right. do from what you guys or jane or anyone is putting forward, right. became old as a boy. yeah. you're right. because we are the biggest export of the talented may. i may be on the sunday. i'd be been always also, but with the technology, we have a program, we're going to be help investing in our kind of begins to choose and be decided to choose a i to start over. so what's your economic problems like the big created this say i start to do besides the day i for we want overhead good problems to be at those would be i'd be, i can fix if there is any educational issues we are the other day. i hope it goes over to the biggest economic sector, the media we thought was 50 bucks and it was

a what, what goes by the new board. we want to make it more efficient by using. yeah. that's why we been doing a no easy this language model is coming out. and why do we have them to behave and use their language models? and we used a program called box of need, which is a national, a language translation issue, because we are going to do it with the language on hundreds or on a visual language. so we use this box, you mean layer? i'm, you have creating joyce to rich people to access these kind of phenomena language model technology, right? you tell people who get a big deal, these mottoes us through this process, my voice and of a get done with the benefits of get farmers wisely and many other things. so that's where we've been doing and that's where we want to be. the leaders will be startled across the board and that sounds very inspiring because you know, and your work and provide many examples of how a i can. it's not narrow uh the gaps that the exist between per list and

disadvantaged groups done that. please bring some very nelson certain development, and i think an argument can be made that there is a natural synergy, you know, between a i and such huge countries like india or china that you are bound to use big data . but always in the west, you're here, this fear of orals big browser at the tall attire and control and what have you do those issues concern you? are they as much to read to you as a to some of your western colleagues? yeah, i think this is one thing. so when i even know where i tell them when i'm working they, i, someone from us or someone from us, immediately brings of the terminator, or are we going to be leaving under, at a guy who are machine other going to take over? what if i to the supposedly is my job safe? so there is this different bus, but the right, the focus more on jobs. i'm the one that says, well, it would perhaps play that, and i, and i got those rolling, which are rising today. i of the monster,

but it's like, uh, i'd like a home or if i have a home home or i can use it to put a name on my was the same that like i used to track on wednesday. if the person was folding the home or no, you know, people like it, almost all are coming. all those to be the extension. ok. so that a i move dominique. the thing is binding me by nature. it doesn't how any emotion it doesn't have to go through human evolution, right? the dominant, straight v, how i assume it's the 3rd of the associated with the intelligence. and they think something far into them. the do that, that's i wasn't sure. but mister ellis, this is a very interesting question to consider again as an assist or as a philosopher. because i am for one a, a big fan of the ancient history, ancient literature. and what strikes me is a sort of the human eyes ation of the humans that is going on. i mean, the split between the mental intellectual capacity of the psychological or ethical capacity which always distinguish us as