marks about indian religions, tolerance from us commission on international religious freedom. mr. for our president obama says something about that. meanwhile, around 6 countries with predominantly muslim population, were bombed for this very reason, take serious yemen, saudi arabia iraq, was there no bombing the were like situation developed in several countries with more than 26000 bombs being dropped? how anyone listen to them or trust them when countries making political decisions such as these bring allegations against india who get common progress while appearing a obama is 8 years of the white house of the us conductive as strikes on 7 different countries. it's easy to forget, i guess that includes, for example, just name a few iraq, syria hackers done. and based on america's own military reports since 911, the pentagon has carried out nearly a whole nearly get this 100000 strikes will open out to the a former us president. if i had a conversation with brian minister moody,

who i know well, but as my argument would be that if you don't protect the rights of ethnic minorities in india, there is a strong possibility that india, when at some point start pro and bought well the and we was speaking with the president of the imagine the institute who says that the end of the day knew that he will never remain silent when its own internal affairs are being criticized from beyond its borders. if you look back at india, new reservations, they've been blowing closer. but it would be a little bit of time that all the, you know, some sensitive topics on which either of us, one of the shows all lawmakers on some things and call the us view of the long list of the, for the important thing that i so they just see them, they come on with this, i'm going to thoughts which don't strike later on live in india. and india is now increasingly talking back with respect to such staples is come up. so on the one hand, yes a, it is something we just model at all will come in india,

you know anybody sermonizing linked to the india. but, you know, we, in india, the reporter news to hitting such a bob's and such comments from the us. see the big picture america looks up on itself as a city on the other bank and on the top of the hill, which i phones the values of democracy. and when i'm a make up for most democracy outside in the word america, in of a mix to reinforce and then its own says that it hasn't multiple effect democracy. the reason in bows out and you know like chosen summarizes others, been respecting democracy. and so to, you know, topics, logic stand, i think is driven by the self image of so many, then americans live in. they assume that they are, these are positively on democracy and there's that model review be low, and if they don't follow them, then it will be between they won't, because i think fundamentally assessed on this. and yet, i guess attention spans and memory. well, can be brief, these days,

the us special envoy for climate change right there. that's the john kerry and boy for the assignment. that is, he said, well, perhaps following another code of standards regarding washington's position on the war on iraq. a few americans have committed a crime, is aggression against the rock and the country to the south are asking, should george bush be tried? why wasn't george bush tried properly? so you, do you support this? so? no, because there's never been a direct process or accusation brought up against president bush himself. have there been abuses in the course of that works? yes. why isn't it a crime to invade iraq based on a lie? no. no, no, no. well, you didn't know it was a lie at the time. you know, the evidence that was produced, people didn't know that it was a lie that it was all but bush was lying. he was lying, they gave you the, the policy, sir, i'm not going to read debate the iraq war with you here. right now. we spent a lot of time doing that. previously. i was opposed to going and i thought it was

the wrong thing to do. but we gave the president the power redirect to believe in the congress based on the line. and when we knew it was a lie, people stood up and did the right thing that stood up in the course of the united states have launched this military invasion of iraq. that was all the way back in 2003. it did spock a long time with hundreds of thousands killed now. it was based on the claims the country had the possessions of a weapons of mass destruction. although it was found out later to be untrue. most people of the time knew it was on truth. and we spoke to a political analyst and the filmmakers show on stone, he says, i carries deflection. doesn't hold much water of the because the carrier, his party is now begging that has this position. of course, gary, being the politician that he is. and also i would say hypocrite, but he is, is now saying, well, you can compare the rock or with this because of the rock where he's saying was not

a war of aggression. when he said there was no direct charges like as in the peach meant or something, i mean, what, what does that even mean? because when it comes to a powerful countries like united states, basically there is no one to hold the united states accountable in united states. people themselves don't have enough power over the federal government to really hold, you know, these people accountable for war crimes or, or an unjust war as, for example, things like this. um, so yeah, i mean, it doesn't really mean anything to say that that he wasn't charged. i mean, johnson was in charge for the vietnam war. and you know, bush senior wasn't charged for the, the 1st gold for obama wasn't charged federal and strikes includes. it wasn't strong charged for the service anymore. so it means it's kind of a silly thing to say. so what legislation is making its way through the us congress that to stop funding the un commission that investigates israel and its actions

against palestinians as a reason for that proposal. i wonder republican congressman blamed a continuous criticism. but israel faces within the u. n. e 's royalties of routinely attacked and undermine to across the entire system while the world's was to human rights abuses. to remain, frankly, relatively, i'm touched, the effectiveness and the we just fairly as so the united patients and young bodies do not familiar with support. in the un commission of inquiry investigates is rarely violations of international law, particularly human rights abuses, aimed at palestinians and occupied territories. now america is the you and the largest contributor proposed the budget cut. what amount to of a $700000000.00 at washington also aims to eliminate the office of the special representative for palestinian affairs. inside the us state department will be heard from a,

a pro palestinian activist from jerusalem to see how he gauges this position. and they obviously, they are supporting the, is a prototype ignition against but us thing and they have supporting the is it a violation of human rights of processing? is that supporting the violation of the international law? but is it a, this is what america is when it comes to, to, for us the news, even if it is that i wouldn't throw on that to make them on guys up, the americans will do nothing. and they will keep on throwing video and, and not taking any serious step against. busy any, as of a good issue. so this is the equation in, in, inside both congress and on the white house. the americans keep listening to a fax to the jewish not be in washington said these eats, they keep listening to that. i mean, globally is a, goes to the present sniff in yahoo and they don't want to listen to the

palestinians. they don't want to see the students. and so all of that, what is reality is moving forward to a jack up more settlements and their best buy and keeping those that level community has condemned with the same steps in the past. calling these constant moves it legal. now more than $5000.00 the home is gonna be built in the as rarely settlement of eli and surrounding areas as of now note specific dates, but the development has been published though israel. so unilateral decision does come with this phase, as i said, the level of criticism, it's biggest ally, america doesn't seem to be well backing it up on this issue either. if you find that hard to believe, have a listen to this. been very clear about this, that unilateral actions such as this one, such as settlement advancement will only insight tensions. and under 9 the prospect of a 2 state solution with the palestinian novelist on, on this issue and is ready to f as in general here. so the washington's southern criticism of the jewish settlements on palestinian land isn't going to lead because

it has definitely hasn't in the past led to any action being taken against televi, a generic position and position. they always say that they are against the policy, but they make no action. can the united states, it's stub eh, what all is it i am at home. it is where to begin by. and i think their time from spending a donation to sit there for months. and so is there any organization working on the links for 3 months and as always bank? no, they don't do that. so if they feel please donate these actions visa activities go on and they do nothing except the issue and get statements from them. and because of the importance of them, they are going by think by keeping by doing this they are only and cutting june as an end to continue. it's fully they, we, he aware of what we see. no action germany is a foreign minister, has held a meeting with a south african count upon what they call a the competing ukraine,

essentially dominating the agenda. now, the tops was supposed to focus on basically energy climate issues. but ukraine ended up taking center stage and the head of a trip to south africa or the german foreign minister. and the bad luck, the voice to intention to advocate for greater efforts from that continuity to help support ukraine because of the dependent makes when the country of nelson mandela and desmond tutu raises its voice against injustice. the world listens. that is why . while in pretoria, i also want to talk about how south africa can leverage its weight to help bring an end to russia's aggression in ukraine and to preserve the un charter. as you probably already know, the south african government insists on staying neutral over the ukraine conflict or even presenting their own peace plan. the us ambassador has a cube, a south africa secretly providing weapons to reassure time pretoria denies saying it's a coming under close scrutiny from western powers. independent atlas that jackie

schon do, says the west is using every weapon in his office and also make out for could take ukraine's side with some people that confident understand that it rushes the feed would mean a rise in, well, neo colonial is the, is a trade attempt now, in particular to basic, a sweet salsa higher in africa, and the on demand or of instruments, including money for nation, including uh, bribery, uh, using before, and doris investments as uh, a couch that's being den or to that teen the van to get uh, the engine or the sub continent, uh old old tubs, its position in favor of the west and in some sort of few pane and then dunbar. i shot that so its an enormous investments for the former uh the transition to the just transition to a new evals. and an old mother of things. uh, i think that to,

uh, the, the, with the east is really reluctant to accept that. uh, there is a very friend stands principle stands that has been taken by many made us, particularly in the sub continents, helps our and african uh, to even though it may be called neutral. but so that i say everybody knows that in, in, in fact it is that and alliance and alignment rather with russia, africa understands that feature, fashion dep rule. in many ways can be seen as a re quote on the zation of the west and renew in less than a century. we know what that was like on the almost total one. 020 on world affairs. international organizations, uh by western europe and africa does not want to go back

the, the lead to all of a nato, a member of state, hungary has openly said, ukraine is not an independent country. any peace deal to end the call. so it would depend on washington, not key. what really matters is what the americans wants to do. ukraine is no longer a sovereign country. it has no money, no weapons, the ukrainians are able to fight only because we in the west support them. so if the americans decide they want peace, there will be peace. i was committed to peace from the very beginning. if there had been negotiations from the start, they would have not been so many deaths and the country would not have been destroyed. my position was that we should not turn the war into a global conflict or something like that. we should isolated in ship responsibility from the military to politicians and diplomats to all the on gary and prime minister. i think the order, but it also spoke about the attempted rebellion by the wagner military company saying that russian president show stripe was the situation was resolved very

quickly. he made those comments and an interview with germany's build newspaper. he emphasized the food in those times, the widespread support of the russian people criticized the west's cooperation with canvas, a failure saying that ukraine ultimately faces defeat. well, let's take this conversation further independently. that's john list of sonya of brandon and they now joining us here live on how to international and it's always a great pleasure. have you on the programs on you're welcome to it here on this live program from most go to order, but he, he's not biding his tongue. usually he also said, for example, that the e u has failed to bring russia to its knees with sanctions. no, to achieve peace in ukraine. why does it seem that think the ottoman so often appears to be so alone on the european political stage when he comes out with what? all very strong statements. so the main stream will not like well i think the from the outside, the integrity in the union together with some of the he's really yeah. together

with some of that. but he's really, i think and outside of the postponement is totally different. the government a completely different expense in the us. but he's really and you know, he was already against the rest of the crisis in 2015. and he argued zillow's wish the miracle as he told them. and you know, when you want the refugees will. okay. they go to you. so already next time he was, he had a different opinion. also he had a sense against our roseville english. also, he had a sense against our roseville. he claims was paying the european union members that look, i mean the left to the left barclays. so he's a bit of a yeah, maybe a loaner we can say and he is. uh yeah, what was it this again because he thinks what he says for his country. he wants to guess he wants no more in ukraine. we was the peach tree tv wants to have these, and this is his stuff. and the other members, as we know, any of the union members,

as we know, and you'll see in union or in the western countries nature, all the time, say they uh, you know, they have some more restaurants as board review crane. oops. i think they are once in a while refreshed. yeah. so this is why we yeah, yeah, it's an integral and i think that's a, that's a good point of view from you. i guess i guess a company or a lonely place to be on the global stage. sonya, i mean, i suppose if, if you were going to be looking for any potential allies who stand in the same court has ordered been, i guess. so it'd be as boot church as well, he's come out and he's one of the only guys really as well, who's come out, who's century question of the main stream now or it is why do you think would be the order? but his describe the current system of relations between ukraine and his western sponsors as a failure. that's a very strong word to use. sonya, i mean, it is, i think it was the managers that, you know, the union has been sanctions for russia. and this has been sections for russia as the sanctions phillips because uh, we know,

rush out economy is going goods as you would be in a lot of european countries, especially germany. and what we hear is going to be beds also netherlands is going to be met. so i mean, this is, this is why he said that he wants old best for his country. he's nothing, he's not taking any sides. and you know, i say for rush out what i'm in safe or even on the union now he said, clearly the union now he said clearly in this interview, he's in favor. all right, so he cast about his people and i think uh, in the space in the european union, you have to take sides. this is what they want to have. you have to take effect against russia. anything that's ease thinks it's very room to what to do such a thing. yeah, i mean, just, just briefly, you know, i never heard back of driving issues been in south africa now for the past. so 24 hours or so. this is just the head of the brakes. somebody that's coming up in about a month or 2. i guess she's on a charm offensive. it's, you know, well that's a whole nother story. we're gonna have to talk about it another time. it's sonya

one movie, strong statement from victor order, but he said that ukraine would ultimately lose the conflict because it would run out of soldiers. and another strong comment from mister orland, did you think if you think if that was the case if he ever did, in fact run out of soldiers would, would western powers, a nato with a send in their own troops as reinforcements street thing as well. i know it's, it's, that's maybe to send some forces in some small battalions or something, but i doubt it, i mean, and because it's a proxy or they, they don't want to get info. that is what they say all the time. i think personally that they are both when you are sending weapons, but okay, that's another story. but they don't say they don't want to be in full. so if they will send her over 10 years or no nato troops, they are involved in award. they are, well, we can say as what reflections are, well, we can say as what reflection and this is what they don't want, what they claim or so no, i don't think we will. we will see that because they do is work to that proxies.

the sister who uh, idea behind this uh, that will work in the, in the west meantime, meantime is a conflict drags on you in ukraine. most of europe is well up to his knees, to the very least in an increasing recession, whereas the russian economy is apparently doing. all right, it's in the green, sofa independent dust journalist as sonya find the vendor. thanks for joining us. 0 and i'll tell you, we'll see you again soon. well, pakistan has some of the us embassies, deputy chief of mission for questioning over a controversial stay point about fighting terrorism in the south asian country you presented by the us under regional rival in the the pakistan's concerns and disappointments at the unwarranted one sided and misleading references to it in the joint statements were convey to the us side. it was stressed that the united states should refrain from issuing statements that may be

construed as an encouragement of india is baseless and politically motivated, narrative against pakistan. it was also emphasized the counter terrorism cooperation between pakistan in the us had been progressing well and that in enabling environment centered around trust and understanding was imperative to further solidifying pakistan us ties. so in a drawing statement, us president biden, and india is prime minister, a cold on pakistan to ensure that his territory is not used for any terrorist activities. few days later, the us state department of echo dot sentiment and even gave a back have a complimentary pack. us don praising their anti tyra efforts, but saying that so much more still needs to be done. we remain committed to working with pakistan to address the shared threat posed by terrace groups throughout the region. we do recognize that pakistan has taken some important steps to counter terrace groups in line with the completion of its financial at action task force

action plans at the same time. however, we have also been consistent on the importance of pakistan continuing to take steps to permanently dismantle all terrace groups including lock, sir h i. e boat, chase, and mohammad and their various front organizations. adults. in maria assault on the head of the south, asians strategic stability institute, spoke to od, see about washington's history of using type, excuse me, of fighting terrorism. in other countries. we would have appreciated this comment, had it not being the fact that the united states actually left us on this done with isaac left on this done with one trillion dollars at the us defense bunch of things spent over there and, and then try region in the mess and as you are there russia, if i could son china, i've got his son and even iran, and he, even the rest of the region is suffering not only refugee influx we suffering through film and drug trafficking being suffering with the kind of that some of the biggest drug treatments and most unfortunately, the, or even not shorts, eyes of the cells uh, you know, has actually less of kind of son. so the bigger question is,

does that if you are fighting against terrorism and that is no big country after i've got a son just given so many lives. a flip, our fight against that hasn't been focused on some details and focus on these have lost their lives, the, the net amount of damage. sure country has drawn into billions of dollars if not trillions. and then they have the audacity to tell us that we should do more. i think this would have been a practical and wise had been most left of kind of spending a mess and had be all much depth with the us interventionism winters and has been a natural outcome from the places where they have a form for military conflict. and just talking about it back in stock just real quick moment here. and i see international that china has a actually all of a sudden refinanced, a $1000000000.00 loan to pack us. don. this is off the week. so the i m f trying to refinance. it's loan to his lama, but it was simply asking for too much in baton. so, basing step 10 to help talk us in the meantime, when you would just by the top of the

the pendulum. those will be always believes that life as a full set, that all these ups and downs the india before the british was the richest nation with the highest g d, b in the world. and why did the 100 years of british rule bring it to this little some to be interacting or late. so to you at the they came to take our change, our tech style, our wrong material, even before making cannon the cannonball they needed. the search feature which came from india, india,

and i just don't do property. they have no right to my property, my i don't my gods. we went to our public spaces. i was see, could spaces of tempers and drink wine and keep pointed out these pieces. in fact, the word new also is like in the word which is now going into the english big city . so quite telling me even the him, the word news has been muted. into the english lexicon. suppose you are enabled, big, important valuables. i'm display issue as soon as i get from the other one. what do you do the, like if you take an example of a piece of jewelry, sometimes you may think that it's, it's needs repair or it's totally broken. you might decide to break it up, rubles, suggest gemstones, and actually manage the goals and re cost. and if i leave and break to and better

than what it was before, the, the good news is we do one. good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good company that i didn't have to do shortly. i see them on a village, 2 minutes before it is close to my side. i just saw the rest of the parts upstairs . oh, that's quite b. one. do mind you as well. you'd see a modern manufacturing unit in glasgow. i know cartoons in manchester. it was all really, which was also a misfortune because had we been a poor country,

i don't think they would have come here sooner than the guys do more. this was about, you know, what the next step would be because all the people, i guess i've taken glitching something like on the black to me to the listing agent here. you'd like to it is not that good. this is a punishment, not harmony. you'll be what i've been doing for centuries, like doing ready though they're using your company. he's here to save you from the suppressive social events and get the future. they propagated falsely. that india is a land of state john most elephant coco dies. and we have to see relate these higgins and peasants. so we have to convert them to question is to solve this london's going on in the name of knowledge dentist to enter our mission is going through the vision of i'm someone on the

one of the main reasons for the success of these india comes to me was the disc, unity among indians, lots of provinces, and got jobs in march as we're constantly fighting with each other the beginning. the story in hastings is any aggressive imperialist who was able to break up the confederacy of the various states who realize the danger of uh brochure, which was beginning in $1776.00. so they taught the british, we'll just get down on the player. the probably did not foresee the admission effect that these people who are bringing in that it was not just economic, you know, a clean relation that they were looking at. they were looking at political subjugation, which was undermined or not talk through well enough by the local indian theater.

with the said, the economic structure having deal with such needs destroyed because india at the time of input a shuttle home. this is 6, which is country and the was it had the volume of trade was $16.00 of the world, the feeling value. and in between, when the british came here, the story begins and 17161930 did use. what does it use when the indian artifacts sort of stolen from indian temples, houses balances are sent us data to printer, schmoozing, di, british museum. just feed a big stolen item. the

new yard light outside of it is boozy and trust me, it's gorgeous. from the outside latch on the inside, it's quite controversial as some people might want to call it. so let's head inside and see what are some of the artifacts taken from india that this idea is i'm on had, i live in new delhi and i'm just recently graduated from nations who meant that it was in school in london. so i was about to move out from london, come back to india. and when i got this opportunity i taught that was the best way for me to spend my last days in london by going and going and looking at these museums that had artifacts. and those 2 pieces of belonging to my own country to you see this entire section is fairly solid,

asian loaded artifacts and all the things i saw that kind of the light did my my love for history and i was literally experiencing it. see in front of me and it was of a view to mix of emotions that i felt it was it was, it was it. there was a sense of sadness. there was a sense of pride decides, just like any of these of furniture that belongs to somebody's house, belongs to that house and should not be elucidated by some 3rd party and be put on display. and some other houses are in some other country and especially made intuitive stickers of action out of it and monetized. so there is 2 ways of thinking that when neutral, these artifacts monuments, which rely.