i wonder how does a i play into that? is it more likely to balance those in balances, or is it more likely to exacerbate them? so it just depends on how we build these 2 as i b b how to control it, right? don't you can go to judge b d, all right, which is a very powerful language model you oscar to use. um lets say it'd be done, i'd wise or otherwise. i'm gonna try and we doesn't do that. why? because it's broke down to ensure that these kind of advisors are not given out, right? so these are be brought down by too much control by us. now, because the humans are the smart, that's, let's say, smart doesn't go video to advise be in the bonded being that i'm donating the spot . but so be things on something that more smart enough to end up dominating or you look at the history of the business. i'm right, the civilization culture we advise technology ended up taking or colonizing the lower one. but here, the cause of the power in need to dominate. it's

a to it right? now, it all depends on how well it's a to, if you are a south korean the right. but the, as you said before, if you are, let's say a japanese, you're more likely to see it as a partner. um, i've heard you say that when we move on that spectra and allow, you know, more of a partner life qualities to the a i, it allows for the full or realization of its positive potential. can you explain what it means because it sounds like actually giving up the controls and, and trusting yourself to them known really shouldn't be sure. so the thing is, be sure to call the check boards which are no guidelines frameworks or do it. i some regulation to ensure that they, i will often do this framework or does it solve it shouldn't be going on, right? so that's all the, what i worry mostly them that can sense of what is the current situation. first of all, the dependency people are taking see does lead, advises that coming through this like wage models of the house and up wasn't

already committing suicide in bed. you originally based on a job with a job or we are seeing and maybe are there is something going up by would you be the that you'd be the grungy be now people i be broad going to these models already . did that. why is that even do they get that you like and why they're really just people are, why do they act up on these things? like certainly the job situation. i mean my, my biggest worry at this point is job i didn't read recently. although i saw that one of the indians memory, but like if i are on the read the number of people because they're incorporating a trying to read write, the whole thing bottom is actually bored to explain that almost 30300, a 1000000 full time jobs are exposed or permission. now, people to try to balance a new kind of jobs are right. but my question here is, imagine you are a compared to, to our 50 and on the computer you are a job is not taken over by a long res. yeah. you invested a lot of money and a lot of here was a, of your life into this craft. and then all of

a sudden i've been told and they weren't really are done. like, don't worry, they're a new kind of don't. yeah. like of that. and then burger king arrival. i bought the find the item. does that make it? absolutely, well, what makes sense is taking a short break right now, but they will be back to these fascinating conversation in a moment, state and the the

rolling of the us over to the door, you know, cream doria. so any idea she shit, a duck lean that report the control room for 2 of us. so we fixed you get the project you system really be and you have enough not to say, but so it's uh, that's interesting to see mean. yeah, well we can do the cloud. so essentially it's streams of dark news, but i'll let you as well. but the crazy if that's where you store lot of the my software but just to, to use it on file. if she ever we get us, what are we shipping stuff? just siggler for a lift or look like you mobilize them. i

need deals says that you train school. so that's for only for each of the board. couple here and you can assume that somebody's full scope gone for a few. busy years mostly you create your type of feature that would dump it on the straight dice so that i'm not the the, the welcome back to all the parts with jim ellis, i'm a i f, assist as an expert on engine a i, mr. eli, as of before the break we mentioned slipping into sections between the, the field a religious or theological studies and the

a i essex. and i heard you say that buddhism in particular, offers a very distinct way of thinking about those technologies. um, can you elaborate in that? yes, so i think the lord has to come from this book written by those. uh uh, i got a mission right. the same as far as kind of the dental. i have written up and dusting book that looks like they are coming up with this perspective. now, the whole question about, let's say we create uh uh, sending machine really visa. now when we send out an hour away, i'd be happy to create or i can present generally those which will be equal into humans and uh, you know, send in machines which got be on. do other things right now lets it'd be operator, but anything i want to do with this, um, uh from what i how like anything sending, how should i should be under human? it should how it has a saw. i bought it, but this believe is really right. and then if that's the case,

then what about human rights? does it apply to these indian machines? then what about labor laws? so the extra dollars which is already done was over. so that's a question right? the moment you're intelligent assessment in the machine, then the whole questions will come right? be be able to create us, we are becoming create all intelligence, right? so that means that the not only distresses will come into play. and to be honest, we don't know how many ends of at this point. there is a difference between uh, artificial intelligence and artificial consciousness. can you explain what's the boundary between the 2 of them? so what we, how right now is so the field of technology goes along, back to the 60 or on the bus really? i feel a lot i yeah. really do. does by like, uh, even sounds bobby's idea pretty easily. but yeah, the opportunity that must go in and produce like, but we have gone through many models, many male building, then we had this machine learning deep learning, majestic us. and so far now, what

b, how is a i more than one thing. very good, right? charge it with a gun, right? edit do or more than a thing is like a really will do, or maybe better than the magenta. again, do paintings. amazingly, right dot again, the may just, but a judge of really gone through a few minutes or a not a gone to go forward, right? don't say. so once you build a doors that can do multiple things, or why don't you build a i to, is that, let's say basically, and that is, that is capable of identifying itself as an entity. i think that's what i use a lot to pursue. the consciousness is being created and the problem is recently, i think, uh, i think the uh, by 6 months ago, uh, 67 months ago there was a gentleman called blake when he was an engineer with google. she was working on this long, don't we just move his language model. he actually said the model of the game from the on people. i mean i, i, i thought maybe it was a to be

a because we still are very early stages. and then for me, i don't know what he was gone, but that this model was sent in and people who are trying to budge mental health issues already. now the question is, nor does this more of us in the end or not, but. ringback it will make us believe, right when your job, the job ged, ah, you ask it, otherwise it gives you a very solid advice that other one you are starting to think that this is a conscious entity, right? this is not just a computer program that is only good in trouble understanding the sequence of words . organic input is perspective helps here as well because you know, what's important ultimately in the really just well of life is the transition from suffering to freedom. but suffering is very important, that's where the sort of the work of the soul happens. that's where you actually build up consciousness. and if that comes to you as old raging made or you know, past package, the question is, um, you know what the real humans do with that?

because i know, for example, from psychologist managers, i called just extremely concerned about the use of, let's say, pornography right? now, not because of any, uh, like moral issues, but because humans lost the ability to communicate with other humans because they don't like suffering. they don't like frustration. they look for easy ways for themselves. but you know that, that seems like a very direct way to again, to humanizing. yeah. that's true. i'm the more you under my products, like you pointed out the japanese they are doing it but the more you and them more pride this to was it. oh, it's our behavior like the bought it. all right, there are, there are used cases where uh, i think i recently, so i be a preschool, a kindergarten teacher saying usually the baby. so comes to the school. we're going to have him on the teacher because it's happens, right? there's a young kid right? oh, i accidentally, but now they're, they all going her. alexa, in human that site here. we always have these um,

sort of conflict between homeostasis and these try for novelty. but we have a bias for homeless spaces, but the live sort of pushes us so often in very uncomfortable ways to a to was normal to i wonder if that something like that could be configured into the a i, algorithms. and again, is that safe? because you will have to, you know, receive that some level of control for that. so i think this are, you know, at the right the, what we need our brand new is this document, or i think it's being already being done through social media and all right. there's, there's the whole minor pollution that's happening now with a, i think a, we don't know what to be the name staging i. right, that's the, that's the reason why i gave you. i great times the, by the time the independence normalization things without change, right? because of the only thing we are portable of these predicting our on future. so we, we don't know what will happen, right? the code is programs will j. o, or even thought about how these companies,

you know, whether it's met or microsoft or google, or whoever wants to use it, right. of course they, they already using who's gonna go to them, you know, take dog. i'm starting, i'm already using it right to do that since often already know, you pointed out a very important point to work on. real estate is right vs. so that's a really long time using but be want to know that uh, how do i status go that somebody be humans, preferably and that's why i would be helping. so you just recently, right. we had a small, it's more towards that gave a little bit a little bit later, but convenience was nowhere. this genie is out of the border. people are starting to, i keep getting b and i from 20, i didn't like you mentioned. and you know, this is always broken as i, things will change, but everyone less do believe that things are going to be the same going for you also mentioned in your reading something very interesting. and this is sort of, uh, a i being wise because of the historical bias because it fits on big data and obviously in our any big data is

a reflection of our current state of affairs with the entries in case story to go to discrimination or privilege is there at this point of time i at least, are there any ways all accounting for that? yeah, so a bias has been a model for a long time. man, advisor, p b, as in go forward as well. so there isn't nothing, it's pretty much done by this this uh, academy ship bought us called back. i, i'm not sure i'm mispronouncing her name, right. she used to judge you be the to how that going was a, i have a partner, doesn't about adult, doesn't us. but it always ended up referring the doctor and i think he and the nurse as she now she makes it up again. the female is an as doctor is always a me, the nurse is always the fema is a big scandal. so show us the model or more over on the bus i have already there. now the problem be addressing bias is that technology or technologist, then do our best a good by adding more technology, right? they believe that the signal so at the solution is i'm a broker. so i do have

a problem with technology, okay? you will fix by adding more technology and i'm more of the technology you i, the better it will get. but that's as far as most of the problem we have is that the dental ignore my disciplinary approach. a hearing or speak. uh, it makes me wonder what is actually a known by state. is it just something that is scientifically proven in measures? and if that's the case then that the real exclude, they're very large portion of human existence. i think i'll try to you what we also have. very good questions is a really good question. you are what these are known by us do so far that i can say, i began to say it just they, i but even the definition of just done just as it is always already. but, but i want, what i can say is i want to diag won't discriminate. people based on certain elements like gender identity or race color language that will big woodstock right . do do how. right? but so, so imagine you're, i'm a government, i'm a person of color and i'm going for an, i mean, i'm an investor, i'm going to,

i'm going for a bank, do something to loan application. now if it is, i don't know if it is this commentary towards me, that's a case of a bias or we'll see. and this is called, but the bible on occasion out toward the us, this, the system use right. it was, it was giving a lower risk or for white man who out a who, who are on a surfboard function or it can be different also, uh, sort of, uh sort. why people, you know, the young black, good. they're given a higher score, even though there are also has more about this of i'm either on or something like that, right? so these, this is the, is it, the is it is, it is something that is convent upon oz. the hill is to do anything within our own soul rather than trying to out sources to some technological term because on some level it's very convenient. but at the same time, i mean, what makes humanity a unique is our log nature. i mean, we all have very unique filters onto this reality, and this is ultimately,

you know, the, the beauty of, uh, the spacious. so the, the more we tried to create the good by the technological means the, the more just stop in to be frank with your sounds. and that's why i, that's why i believe, you know, i am or i or this is are, and what do we need more ideas? we know more day was bus 50, right? what is right, done wrong. who's supposed to decide those things? when you have more posts, but the more people are more, for example, there's a report that say that and i'm going to get house or create. and at that point, every 6 seconds, i'm based on that. many of the stores are all built right in the homework numbers, and those are many of this. now there's another 5 that will say that congress like most on the, which i was only 6 percent of the country. i think the only thing is 30. how, what is there a presentation in your building to was know, you better get me to it's not limited to us. it's the but i think you're finding the 2nd largest user off to do be the doors. use the word of your building towards that to use everywhere,

and your best buy has more of the people sitting in dividing. how really, how well, like you pointed out, all these different ideas are in a different way of looking at the what the different kinds of will be address or incorporate or. so that's why i think you said you need that. i have, i only have less than a minute for that question, but that's the most interesting question for, for me, because ultimately, you know, human intelligence is not just intelligence. it's not only about the brain is not only about the body, it's about the soul. and it's about the rational about the feelings and ultimate, that it's about a connection with the divine. do you think technology can ever be in? so that's a $1000000000.00 rest in the 2nd spot, john sir i, i don't think i don't think it's a good idea to see the the as a replacement for over spirituality or our spiritual belief. stride those, those are a baby on done technology that doesn't do well. and that may be the argument

against the entrepreneur filing this technology too much because there is a certain uniqueness and such a dignity, flawed dignity in being human. and perhaps the vicious intelligently and consciously tried to preserve that true. i think i'm of out of under more wisely. but everyone sees an easy way of getting more people to adopt this technology. by under more pricing, it is easier. so it's about the i don't, but it's also easier to get it misused anyway. is it in a fascinating conversation? thank you very much for that, mr. ellis on our does lesson. and thank you for watching hopes to see her again. and it was a part of the, [000:00:00;00]

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a former intelligence officer in united nations weapons inspector in nashville. we have steve gill, he is an attorney and political commentator, and in lisbon we cross boot. alexander guerrero. he is an international law analyst part. gentleman comstock rules and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate scott, let me go to you. um, you know, we have the after glow right now. i know you were glued to it like the rest of us. what are your initial thoughts after this very bizarre weekend? my initial thoughts are that um, of the entire world's going to be re imagining wagner now that the mythology has been stripped away. and we're compelled to look at the, the reality of, of the organization of the people who ran the organization. what actually the organization did, and then what it cost russia to, to they have a fogged or a group of, let's remember that wagner was

a business. i write a report is released, it just takes about just how successful a business wagner was. um, you know, almost uh, almost 200000000000 roubles poured into wagner last year. and i think we're, we, we, we know some insight into why a provision of did what he did. it wasn't about patriotism. it wasn't about, uh, you know, demanding that the, it's joy doing garage some of would do. the right thing is about money, plain and simple. he was desperate detain. the contract has made him so much money in cost, russia, so many lives. so i, i think that, you know, history will show that the wagner experience was a, was a bad experience for russia. this, this was, it was irresponsible to create a private army, understand why they did it. but just to stay in that private army. and it led to this most embarrassing nova the buckles, which of course,

was the wagner attempted to. yeah. and, and i agree with it. and then, you know, it was also a lot about ego in about a public presence. and we saw the, the going uh, the refute going on of it. he had with the, the authorities, which he, himself is not really a trained military man. so the public here i can tell you from my perspective is very happy. this affair is over the way it ended. it's a mixed bag, but there was a political resolution. i would have preferred also a legal one, but i couldn't live with the outcome. steve, let me go to nashville with uh, if we're thoughts on this here because all during the, the events of the weekend. well, the thing to be accomplished continued in, in ukraine. ukrainians are dying from the west. really didn't know what to make a bit except for if it's bad for poor and it's good for us, which again, it's kind of a juvenile interpretation of everything. and then when i talk about how it would this whole affair was talked about in western media. so your thoughts vive, go ahead. yeah,

i think it continues to be something that is not really completely resolved because the stories now are changing after this. i suppose it negotiated settlement progression is now claiming that it was, was never an attempt to go to mazda on the, terribly that this is just a protest march. when you, when you take over a military operation, as they did with armed forces and chains and other military army, that's not friendly project march. and now you've got a new president clinton who earlier the message was over not going to prosecute any of these folks. now president put in is making it clear that he intends to prosecute both the leaders, although not the, the armed forces beneath the leader. so. so this is, this is not over yet, and start to talk, you know, better about what happened militarily and your brain is a, is a moved out and of now moves apparently, to, is it about a 120 miles? yeah, but, but the, the russians were still sitting in the face of the pastor,

or do you have an american generals on a fox and other locations urging you, praying just charge to put all in it for car which makes something just a trap from the beginning does it does the morning findings as they thought they had their openings, and the russians are sitting there just, you know, continuing to white. so now started talking about those tactics, but i think we don't know the aftermath of the west is as perplexed as anybody. we'll probably as much as people advice as well where this goes next. yeah, alex i, i think we, we do, we're um, basically finished with this right now. i mean, scott's absolutely right. it was a huge business enterprise, the garage and saw his empire being diminished dramatically. and his is placing in the public guy. i mean, what most russians know about progression is on telegram channels. okay, that's where he was king and he was bedded a lot. okay. and now that there's been a major reversal here, but like i said, i wasn't putting a bow on it here is that there's an enormous amount of relief and

a lot of people are very happy to see this man move on. okay. and keeping the piece at the same time, your thoughts, alexander, leasing russia. are you seeing like this? but in the west here we had a totally different perspective. because as far as i know, according to the coverage made by the western media, we must serialize in sports that the west continues to make. the mistake can get through us. yeah. through westernized believing that it's before it starts with work, with the same dynamic sense to see the cities and the subway. every one of our choice versus shooting the west as a country, that police will cease to read these mark by successive. but very cool. who said the but safe, loving me, putting things above or the west actually has continued to rush it as a country board and by a solid and similar sheet. however, last week and lots of ways the piece to include the group immediately led to comparing the rest in all 5053. we the russia,

off the 1988 and 99. that was already seen as a memory from the law. in these tests to earn the discussion in the west and media manual who's actually a very to a true, a sounding board. so for some bull additions to focus on the view that the rest of his room to be the more political stable than it was believed. and the believe that she has a be as safe as believe to the point where they're at least was a personality like you're going to be version of the concrete decided, rare, single, or live lead saelens u. s. episodes. or there's much of space. and from here, the political situation in russia began to be discussed with the service. and so far as an eventual political interest in russia, and would be dangerous for the west because of russia. if he's a states that is nothing more, nothing less than the breakers. think the power so at the end, everyone now is still discussing what extent was this stage and get this thing

done? what kind of the thing to effect in case it was not stage, it would have for the russian politics in the future. and that remind everyone that from a to to may that you're gonna be losing the game, the fees more, most popular, politician interrupt shit. well he all i like for me to be pushed back there. he's not a politician. that's the problem. he acted like one. okay. and he was on the left even any way. anyways, i'm elected here scott, that's a, it's a very interesting point because as much as the, the western media and political lead stared this on. no state institution, no regular soldiers, nothing. there was a uniformly rejection of this. okay. and i think that a lot of mir put in did the right thing. it was the best of the worst possible outcomes. that's the way i kind of look at it, scott. so again, that we have to re imagined wagner,

we have to strip away the mythology law of which was largely created and promoted by a precaution himself. be a telegram and uh, it's cetera. um you know, for goshen. it is march to, to moscow, said providing the russians with a case example of how it should have been done in key of, of no buffer goshen that you know what, what, what people don't realize right now is that this was not provision negotiating an end to is a to is damn bit up. he was told by lucas jacob, that if he didn't back down all the wagner guys would die that day. that day. that day. day that day, thousands. there were thousands of russians. special forces deployed in the civil region. the elite elements of wagner had made contact with them and reported back that they were about to be over. well, understand what you're marching on the road was an extended call. there's a thing called a basic load basic about load. oh, that's what you carry on. you, you might have a couple of re supplies in your truck. that's it. you're getting

a firefight with a regular