because these are the we have uh, when i say we, i'm talking about to be have promoted these and confident players to higher and higher levels. and then the echo chamber sort of seals that in. and you have, this is truly state of it's, it's like the stanford prison experiment, except it's just, you're not as, as out of hand. it may be or more out of hand. in some respects, one of the results of whistle blowing is the isolation. and the loneliness that comes along with it, what was it like for you? you were forced onto the desk duty, how did your friends and colleagues at the v a respond where they supportive. did you have any other support from inside the organization? oh, cool. yeah. so again, i, this is sort of like my, my 3rd life as a copyright. so i, i, i have a friendship network and i got some really, really good advice all the way back in 1988, a senior deputy at the sheriff's department. i worked for

a told me straight out. he said to him, if you're going to do this job, get a get a hobby that doesn't have anything to do with law enforcement and get friends that aren't cops. and it was something i took to heart and i just, i carry that through the year. so i kind of had this network established a prior to that. but i'm pretty well known. and so when they transferred me out of police services and then with the transportation division, there were a lot of people who found me on the side walk away from the year where they couldn't be overheard offered their support, their gratitude i, i'll get a facebook messages from time to time, just your notes of encouragement and they are absolutely critical. jackie, derrick wrote this wonderful book about the psychological tracks. yes. of the read seems to be subcategories, but every single piece of blower should immediately fall under that. ca, to like without question, somebody to change them all that we need because of that psychological damage. i'm

just fortunate enough that i planned for yeah, that was, that was really very forward thinking towards speaking with the department of veterans affairs. what's the blower? tim petoskey, about problems inside the sprawling federal government. we're going to take a short break and come back with more of this conversation, which is stressful. say, tune. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 the take a fresh look around his life kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion, by how of tired vision with no real opinions pictures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants

a better wills. and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going on the ground can the in the year of 1954, the united states of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam. the white house supported the corrupt above and governments of southern vietnam. 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. the pentagon was confident that the victory would be on the american side,

due to its military superiority. however, the vietnamese, during this war into total health for the occupants. unable to cope with a guerrillas, the american army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burnt all alive. the village of my lay, where he 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. all and all. during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on vietnam more than $6000000.00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. in 1973, the american army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the puppet regime. and so i got involved. however,

the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. more than 1000000 in vietnamese people became the victims of american aggressors. hi, i'm rick sanchez. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different. listed of opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to planes or do they have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi $1000000000.00 corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you think . 2 welcome back to the whistle blowers. i'm john kerry onto we're speaking with tim

petoskey, whistle blower from the us department of veterans affairs. tim, thanks again for being with us. always, tim frank. start because the famed whistleblower from the early 19 seventy's. new york police department is a friend of mine. one of the things frank has always been very clear about is that corruption only exists in police departments when police leaders allow it to exist . frank also has been clear that he had very little support from other police officers when he made his revelations. you've said that other police officers in the v a are afraid. and when a whistleblower engages the da's leadership, the va attacks, the officer. these attacks tend to be effective and the majority of cops are afraid of losing their jobs and it being attacked in the same way as the whistleblower is attacked. i can tell you that this is also true and national security. the goal of those protecting the wrongdoers is to frighten,

would be whistle blowers so that they remain silent. tell us about what you went through immediately after you made your revelations. what was it like inside the va? sure. well, i think the worst was, was definitely um, at the very beginning when joe murphy and i made our original disclosures they, uh they were, they were using the was our traffic cameras to follow as to and from work with the intent of harassing us about you know, showing up on time or not um, anything that they could fabricate. uh, they attempted to besmirch jose professional reputation when he applied for a p as in an attempt to abrogate his security clearance of the anything you can think of at some point in time that they i went for an entire month without pay months because they couldn't get their pay worked out in my or

was the only $1.00 by the way. right. but they pay me for an entire. um, you know, you said uh something and one of your other uh, um cas about integrity versus honesty and integrity being something about self and honesty but you know something we project for others. i'd also, i'd like to adult day off of that and suggest that there's an institutional integrity, right, that the integrity of the individuals in those leadership positions bring, which is what i think frank circle was again, which by ways one of my personal sherise and this thing about intrinsic value and then agencies, professional integrity and the intrinsic value, but that breeds for the agency or lack there of. and that's exactly this, this situation with the a where they attacked me. they attack joe, they try to project that abuse of authority in a grandiose manner with this sort of a chest pounding. but what we can get away with, which is the i to acid in my termination case. that is,

that is precisely what they are trying to transmit to the workforce, which is the back of us and shut up. right. and we've seen that in the unit number of our, our stores have resigned. we are having all kinds of difficulties in getting back regular support. and we've got numerous cases that the federal relations authority that are focused back on the agency i've, i've personally, one upwards, i think either floor or 6 unfair labor practices while from the up since january of this year. because the agency has been so in bold and uh, by my termination, while you're there, seems to be a theme here where that you should be able to rely on your, on your union to support you. and it's not just you it's, it's both inside and outside government and they're, they're just really isn't much in the way of support from the union. one of your colleagues also told the media that revelations that the 4 of you made were not

taken seriously and were not acted upon. um, usually that's not the case. usually they'll target you try to get rid of you and then quietly implement the changes that you demanded in the beginning. why would the officials engage in a cover up when it would be so much easier just to work with you and make these changes? sure, well it gets back to that, that incompetence, right? is that so steep? they don't know how to do that. but there's also layers, you know, like in the, in the, in my world back in the day, i know you've been around for a little while anyway. back in the map days and you had the, the acetate and used to do the layers. right. and you build up a picture, right? so one of those layers is this thing about, uh, uh, some of the dangers within a hospital setting that the grandiose. but what am referencing here are actual serial killers that operate inside of medical facilities of all types. now there's

a wonderful book by brew sacrament, cold behind the murder treatment focuses specifically on the da's problem in this regard. and one of the things that she touches on in his book is that the serial killers operated to be a do. so at the age that are known to have a 41, police forces, while staff, please cetera. so this is in, there's been some netflix videos and things like that. this is a 4 story or hospital with ministry. here's the last thing they want is for something like this to get out. and then they have to deal with the kind of panic that comes from it. but as you know, getting ahead of the story is how you deal with is critical elements. but the so incompetent, they have nothing in their tool box to deal with that complex reality. and they can't even handle something like that. in c, i see. right. dr. seattle was one of the only organizations in the state of

washington habits terminals pulled because of the incompetent handling of the inside the system. right? it's somebody walked in the door. i'd say, if you've ever worked with these people in the united state of washington there, and why don't we try to get they tell you what's going on, how they want it when they want it? it's, you know, i love my brothers and sisters in the infantry but isn't an infantry guy could get this done right? but the v a can't. right? and so how are they going to deal with this incredibly complex situations that you do have to deal with? is the hospital administrator when you're competency level is so low, you can't handle, you know, something like making sure there's enough paper for exact. hm. one of the tactics that the v a used against you and against the other whistle blowers is, is through the use of your medical records, your medical records were illegally accessed. hundreds of times. i was shocked when i read that in the case of one of your colleagues, he stopped demand for speeding on the grounds of a v, a facility. that man happened to be a v, a psychologist,

and the psychologist threatened the officer over the speeding ticket. in the end, the officers medical records were also illegally access 100 times and he was unable to be promoted. presumably you have legal representation to try to guide you through this awful experience. but what are your lawyers say about this kind of illegal retaliation? when, when a psychologist, because you're giving them a, a speeding ticket can pull your medical records and leak them and use them against you. it's so patently illegal. how do you deal with for even worse than that because that particular case that you're talking about, that psychologist was of a clinical psychologist. not a forensic psychologist. we have, i said, estimates every year. they're done by practice ecologist not kind of a psychologist and the clinical psychologist had to get sort of google boy into the system to even look at that officers case to begin with, let alone accessing his,

his records and things like that. but one of the things that we learned was i've learned to definitely over my time with the va, we already cabinet level agency, and that's one of the things that kind of it's brought me up short. i don't know how many times and it's just taking me, it's taking me quite a while sometimes to wrap my head around it because we are on the same tier is the department of justice. and, you know, i looked a little bit that your story from the, from the c a and i, i, it, it blew my hair back. but one of the things in listening to your story is that the, the v thinks they are the see. i get they believe, and they act with that kind of a das city, as if they can just make up something and who's going to make us do anything different. and to a large degree there, right. we have to follow the department of justice policy or direction. we're a cabinet level cr agency and so does the v a have to follow the law?

i something i posed to congress all the time because if you don't have an enforcement model, you don't have a lot. if there's nothing there that says dell shuttle or i will spank you, the v is just going to do with the props, right? right. ways to save the c a all the time. it's better to add now and ask for forgiveness later. so you, i may have those words, right? so you mentioned earlier in the show that you're no longer at the v a i'm. i'm hoping that you still have a whistleblower case pending. so where does your case stand now? it seems like there's been no real changes. no, no interest from capitol hill? no satisfaction for the whistle blowers what happens next for you. so because on the union representatives, the national via council sent me a lawyer and we are taking my cases to arbitration. now the reason why is because

the merit system protection board decides 97 percent of the cases for the agency. 97. wow. percent are they were trying to justify that last session before congress and they're, they're large, logical reasoning if you can call it that is, is, is, is cartoonish as well. so my cases are set for later this year. and the da's gonna have to stand in front of an arbiter and an attempt to justify what their position is. however, their attorney is a board certified. and so if their, if the is the case is going to continue to be that the law isn't the law. that's going to be a really interesting outcome for that particular lawyer. but the highlight that i want to make here is that if it were not for arbitration, i just be getting the water. right. because it has to be isn't gonna help me. right? they're going to decide for the agency and this has happened to other vehicle the

sprague, they've got to work their way through the system. you know, and i think you've experienced this yourself. there is a cost benefit analysis rate. and if the agency can run that cost up, at some point in time, those offices are gonna walk away because it's just, it's to monitor really expensive. it's too emotionally expensive, it's to psychologically expensive. and to be a rest. that's how they've gotten away with this. for so many tickets just crazy. well i, i would like to thank our guest in petoskey, not just for being here with us today, but for allowing us to be his 1st interview. thanks for that. and thanks to our viewers for joining us. sometimes when a police officer is given maximum power, he bears minimum responsibility. that's why it's incumbent on the rest of us to support those brave officers who stand up in the face of waste, fraud, abuse, or illegality. they are the ones to keep the honest people honest. they are the ones who eventually will route out corruption. they're the ones who are deserving of our support and our respect. i'm john kerry echo,

thanks for watching the whistle blowers until next time. 2 2 2 2 the russian states never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best, most all sense and up the in the 6595 and speed. what else holes? question about this? even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on the russians to day and split our t supposed net, keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube tv

services. for the question, did you say steven twist, which is the, i don't see this conflict. so as the one over a values best not to say that there might not be differences in values between uh, you know, elements of the us population or elements of the us leadership and elements of the russian population in russian leadership. there may well be some differences, but i don't see it as conflict as having to do with that. i see this primarily as really, frankly, a proxy war on russia's border that is being pursued by the u. s. and then, you know, powers the,

the, the, the french cities once again become cogent and rage over the fatal police shooting of a 17 year old youth on tuesday. hold on a 1000 people, i'd be interested since the beginning. also had the ukrainians show that landed on this house struck the kitchen directly. at least 9 people ended up to a town in the den. yes, the public comes and the ukrainian schilling and broken news. latino fossils suspends the french television news channel, playmates, likes objectivity. i was following a report they made on rebel groups in the country. the,

so don't suffer, they moaning k and the roof and capital money speak to scott and his how the world is looking, as we head into the weekend. thanks for joining in now, almost 500 people have been arrested overnights and friends that says rage continues to bowl of a nationwide of the states. so police shooting of a teen about jeering defense on tuesday. the. the most speaking ahead of the expect to travel on friday nights, the country's interior minister said the coming hours would prove decisive. 45000 offices were deployed to confirm the riots, but just as launch fireworks on smoke thumbs of police. some aging buildings on assessing cause on fire. so fall reports say more than $200.00 offices have been injured in the customers. this what this shows looked at unbundled lives stalls in

the central city of leon as demonstrates as cost with offices after a rally against police violence was banned during the riots across the country. 25 police stations with targets it while an office of a french financial services company was run sites. bytes is a must say, he looked at a gun store and stole hunting rifles. meanwhile, friends, presence of mind while my phone has put some of the responsibility for what's been happening on parents and social networks, i really like calling parents to be responsible. it is the parents' responsibility to keep them at home. and so it's important for the calm of everyone that parental responsibility is for the exercise. and i called on the sense of responsibility of mothers and fathers, exhibit platforms and social networks are playing a considerable role. and the movements of these pos days. we sort of separate of them, snap check, take talk, and several others by the vine and gatherings being organized. and it's sort of copycatting of violence. a lawyer, philip, who is representing people from the yellow vest movements,

believes the current across is concerned. it was in a similar case and that it 2 decades ago, a school district crazy situation. we knew these uh back in 2005, we have the riots for 2 weeks because of the base of 2 teenagers. uh for the next events they, they, they looked to compare them, save them, they passed away on all the server ups. uh uh, rise um for uh for 2 weeks, but it was controlled by the government of this time. now it's a different thing on all the special needs son. these parents says that uh, these files are stronger than 2005 for the 3 nights. all right. and the yesterday you are the guy who will pass a bus away or rubbing the of the star you feds on from the roof on you have to probably spend a injured a heavy injured. he must say. i think he,

there's other vitamins to night. we kind of looked of the victims. it's possible i'm moving on through the phone lines now. what 9 people have been wounded to after the tone of us and of outside in the disc region came into ukrainian shilling season roman costs of census this report from the sides of the attack. 3 elderly couple that lives here in this house survived. miraculously, the ukrainian shell that landed on this house struck the kitchen directly. and both of the, both of them there were in the house at that point. thankfully, their kids and their grandkids were in the nets, at the time of shedding. at this moment, the house has completely burned down and is destroyed, the young repair. but the, i knew it wasn't the garage when the sailing started straight,

close the door to the garage and the door was crushed. my wife yelled for me, she wasn't the bedroom where the ceiling have collapsed on her. i went out through the garage window and pulled her out. the explosion was instantaneous. as soon as it seemed the house, everything went out at once. the house is completely destroyed with all of them. according to officials, ukraine fired several rounds bowl from sylvia made multiple launch rockets, systems and nato made a $155.00 millimeter habit search. now this one is, this is a shelf from grad multiple launch rockets system. it landed right in the middle of the street right next to the kindergarten, which is only about 50 meters away. well, i should update around the after the 1st way of showing, i went out to see if anyone needed help. i met a neighbor and while we were talking, the 2nd wave of showing began. i lay down in the grass and he fell right beside his

car. if his car wasn't there, he wouldn't have been so lucky. you and father sent a hose at the time of the assess showing my son was in the room at home, and my husband was at the car. i told my son not to leave the house a shelf. so here my cell, good, either a piece of shelf, no gloss in his hand. he's in the hospital now. my husband was also injured on his on what should we do now? for the city of using nevada is adjacent to the landscape comes under constant ukrainian, shedding nearly every house here. every apartment building every bus stop. every hospital is full of fish, wrapped all holes or houses or destroyed, just like this one. however, local residents are still willing to live here in hope that this conflict will and very soon and be useful. finally, come per month, cost for emergency don't ask for public. well, the head of one of the largest monasteries, claims ukrainian security officials offered him

a plea deal as if he denounced as the printing orthodox church, which has ancient tied to russia. and suppose the transition of his mind straight to the orthodox church of ukraine, but you're fully on pabo refused the deal saying he's done nothing wrong. he was speaking in a colton keith, where a judge extended his current house arrest until the end of august. walk in april, he was charged with inside st. religious hatred and just defined lucky of calls brushing aggression just days ago, the ukranian president followed him is a landscape proposed to deal moving the celebration of christmas from the orthodox to catholic. tell him to think that the ukrainians, todd todd russian ideology, included religion imposed upon the move comes and made a long lasting cry down by keith on the planning orthodox church, academic and journalist jason michael leaves the persecution started back in 2018. thank you. of was given top launch by the collective west. those who mention of this, because this is part of an ongoing propaganda campaign where in the broadest of all

possible sensors the ukranian regime was being given a blank check by nature with the european union. having the united states, what was happening to the ukrainian orthodox church is an ongoing persecution. it's concerning that metropolitan pothole has been an under how you start asked them that this has been going on since last april, behaving this. of course, we can trace this by much follow up to 2018 when the ukrainian government and p as voted, as i liked of parliament as a, as a government moved to remain the church. and it's very rare, particularly in any state pretending to be a liberal democratic state, to use an act of parliament for subjects to change its name, to reflect some form of incentives for the lead to, you know, tip to, into parents. this is the most school patriarchy. you know, this would be a can,

you know, during perhaps world war 2 when, but it was. ready or was adults hitler and his allied miscellany to re label the catholic church and england. vitale and catholic church last civilian infrastructure continues to come under setting vs. and what's the un says of the west and it's only pumping its weapons. it's a key of this also changing it. so training is false is a stem curriculum. looks like they've west is now not any pumping weapons into the key. avery team relentlessly, but also training the ukranian forces and they are not see battalions on it stared . trees is providing the ukranian army with intelligence for the purpose of instructing. and even authorizing strikes specific targets with weston weapons. at the same time, it is a set it diligently weston countries. the not involved in the conflict with russia is not just a minute issue. and ukraine k of would like you to join them in turning a blind eye to the facts. but numbers don't lie and according to a recent poll,

only 43 percent of ukraine, your respondents currently living in ukraine. se not these or neil, not the ideal a g is not widespread in the country, but when pulling ukrainians living abroad. that number, the cruise to 36 percent pointing to the fact that those who have left the country . so united ism as a bigger problem for ukraine. furthermore, when questioned if the revolution of thing that a in ukraine during 20132014 could be considered a could at that 29 percent of ukrainians within the country. believe that in fact was one of those who live abroad were much more willing to call the event of food. now it is prudent to approach these poles, like many others conducted miss the ongoing conflict in ukraine with caution. after all, they usually exclude the regions that recently became a part of russia, as well as the queen is residing in other parts of russia while ignoring the.