a cheerful, if they had their dreams fulfilled. yeah, so let me just back up one step before i try to respond to that and hopefully i won't lose lose the thread of your, your actual question. as i do this, i just want to make a little clear, the notion of the geography and the red lines. and the question of, um, uh, i refer to the book the monroe doctrine just as a doctor in course it wasn't referred to as a doctor. and initially, but it's based on a statement by then present, president monroe in 1823 that really at that time had to do with colonialism. but ultimately has been interpreted in different ways. having to do with the idea that a, a foreign power, that places a potential opponents of places military forces anywhere near us borders anywhere in the western hemisphere even knows it is crossing a red line. one can only imagine what would happen if, for instance, russia had formed an alliance with canada or mexico and cube i exhibit the attempt or even to the right, which is right. yes, cuba, right,

of course. and even that's further away than right on the border. and we, we could see during the cuban missile crisis, how aggressively the us responded or item was, say, progressively, it could be defensively. but how, what sort of intense fear is of attack that aroused on the part of the united states. united states recognize it as its legitimate security interest, and i think everybody else, including the story is actually understood and that's why they, they would say a set on yeah. yeah. yeah. i think that's very true. so you know that there's a chapter in my book or i called putting the show or the other foot by which i mean to say, how would the us respond if russia or china had done something sort of equivalent, forming an alliance with um, with canada and mexico and we saw what happened even with respect to cooper, cuba off the coast. how about if was right on the border, as you crane or georgia or other places are right on russia's border. so i think it's very important to try to the 3 if you are pulling in this new moral equal and that's what he trying to say, but they're not, as there's clearly doesn't see as,

as a, as a close e i, i think there's some truth to that not many people in, in washington i think another way to look at it also is there's a writer and blogger, robert wright, who use the term cognitive empathy. and by that, what he means is sort of your ability to mentally or psychologically transpose yourself and see other issues the other person. and i would say, you know, i think there are people who you could say they have a very uh, they have a view of russia as in physically evil. and they have, they hate, there certainly are people like that. but i think they're probably others who i would simply say is a black cognitive empathy, by which i mean an inability to transpose themselves into the position of the other sites and see how they would feel, quote, even to reverse the picture and see how they would feel if the other side did the same, especially if the american own security reduction doesn't allow for that. i mean, if you actually look at the american strategic documents, there is no space for empathy of any kind that there is

a simple statement does have gemini, that needs to be protected, but which mr. eval of. let's continue this fascinating conversation after a short break. that's where we have to take right now. the the, [000:00:00;00]

the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to his appointment, benjamin envelope of officer of how the west brought word to your brain. mister ablow, we began talking in the before the break about how um the lessons of the world will 1 may be relevant in considering this uh, swelling crisis. but i think there are also many 1st that we haven't seen. and one of them would be, uh, as far as i would claim,

is the uh for as the explosion at the north stream pipeline, the act of industrial terrorism. something like this never happened before, even during the cold war. and also the, the nuclear threat to, i'm sure, you know, follow the, i know that you, you, you have a keen interest in nuclear 1st and use the lobby congress on your plate issues. and we all know that there is a huge nuclear station, right? in the middle of this war zone data is at least according to the russian narrative has been constantly shelled by ukraine. so let's consider this. first of all, i want to ask for your reactions on the, on the explosions of the north stream pipeline. because regardless of who um is to blame, i think it really uh shift the frame because it introduces a new norm that though aside can one side can attack the industrial infrastructure . and 2nd of all,

it also shows that in the area made the naval control. no infrastructure is safe and could be all in fact vulnerable to industrial terrorism. well, i have many things to say about this. i'll try to give you a brief uh and you'll keep me on track if i could, south carolina on thanks. yeah, just you throw a throw rock and make it a 1st. obviously this is extremely dangerous movement. i'm not quite sure i'll call escalation, but let's call it a movement of conflict into another sphere. whether this was carried out by russia, by the united states, by other nato powers, i don't think anyone knows for sure yet, although i have an opinion of what i think is most likely. so as a starting point, i want to say that i think this is very dangerous and it could lead to a type of sort of escalation of attacks on, on infrastructure outside of the current battlefield. and this, there's no end to this where this could go. and number 2, i want to make

a comment about the reasons why i think more attention needs to be paid to the possibility in the west of the united states has actually behind us. and then finally, i want to comments on something about the western media, which i've been extremely disappointed in. okay, what's that? let's make it one by one. why do you think the united states may have some associations without a part from uh, secretary of state anthony, blinking and presenting that as as a great opportunity? yeah, well i think that these are most persuasive to me are statements made by both president biden and by the under secretary of state for a political affairs victoria newland. both of them in this period before the war started. but when russia was ready, mass thing on the board, or both of those stated explicitly that they, that the us i, i have the actual quotations. all she read them because i don't want to rely on

what's the paper. i went back to the video which anyone can find on line. just search. mr. biting uh, north stream to uh, we will end this pipeline um, mr. by the state explicitly. this was made on february 7th at a press conference with um, uh the, the from chance all our shelves on, on the podium with him. if russia evades that means tanks or troops crossing the border of ukraine again, then there, then there will no longer be a north stream too. we will bring it to an end. and then a member of the press said, ah, how will you do that exactly. since the project and control of a project is within german control, and mr. buys and responded in a very knowing tone, i promise you will be able to do it in a separate presentation. victoria and new and the under secretary of state stated,

if russia invades ukraine one way or another north stream to will not move forward . i the, i think that those statements alone. they do not prove that the us did it. and i, in and ultimate sense, i'm withholding and each judgement with certainty. but in medicine, there's something called prior probability. you look at the full constellation of data that's available before you to undertake a definitive diagnostic test. and you say, how likely is it that one party one disease or another disease or one party or another? and i would say that these statements were explicit statements about what would happen if russia, as they did, and then rush invaded. and then this did happen. i would say this place is a high, a high prior probability that the united states was behind. this does not prove it, and i remain open to new evidence. but i think there should be much more concern than there is that this is what happened. but i think i need to make an important

clarification for our viewers that mr. barton made that statement about north stream to pipeline the new pipeline that russia constructed. where's the explosions took place at the north stream? one pipeline which, but still is pretty much the same because that pipeline was intended and was, was intended to bring natural gas to germany as well as to many other countries. now the americans liked to talk about the solidity of that alliances, particularly the alliance is with your a ben, it's pretty clear to anyone who's, who knows anything about how industry all to raise that german economy until a large extent then, and many other european economies would build on the access to affordable russian energy sources. that's the very foundation or one of the foundations of european prosperity. if we take on that hypothesis that the united states was behind it one way or another, or that if even function in that it approves of it which you know,

anthony blinking sat it exclusively. that is a great opportunity. what do you think would be? what do you think that would say about the american attitude towards it? if you are p and allied, do you think they will be able to function to maintain the industrial capacity without having that are jane? that yeah, well 1st, so let me just comment briefly on your point about north stream one versus north stream 2 and i think that's an excellent point. one that and i'll be focusing on, i do want to make what i think may be one small correction. unless there's some new news today, my understanding was that at least as of yesterday, they were a total of 3 explosions affecting both pipelines. however, each pipeline has 2 is a double pipeline. so my understanding is that both of the, both of the pipelines of the duplex pipeline in north stream one were damaged. and one of the 2 in north stream 2 or damage in my suspicion is that the other one that whoever was planning this actually intended to hit all 4,

but things get complicated at uh, 250 feet below the ocean surface. and so i think that is a valid point that you're raising and, and perhaps it should make one a little bit less certain or a little bit less confident that it was the us. and maybe it takes a little bit of pressure weight off the statements. and vitamin newland. uh, what does it say about the relationships about if the us did in fact carry this out and i want to get to the press also, maybe you can focus my question after that. but what does this say about the relationship? if this happens, certainly the united states has long been opposed to the north stream to pipeline. certainly, some people have pointed out that this if, if the north stream to pipeline or the north stream one also stopped operating. that this would create tremendous markets, new markets for liquefied natural gas coming from the united states. certainly the there could be influence as along those lines. i am not quite so mercenary. and as cynical in my interpretation there, i think again that some of this may have come from what were, among some people,

at least, you know, well intentioned, that they correctly or wrong correctly or incorrectly had a deep fear of russia and didn't want not want a closer alliance between russia and germany, and they saw the supply of natural gas as a, uh, an important element of that at. and one of the motivations that one could posit would be, you could almost call it a desperate attempt to keep a russia and germany from developing a closer connection. that perhaps germany would be peeled off, so to speak, from the western atlantic alliance and move somewhere closer to russia. if in the winter, the german population began to become extremely uh, uncomfortable with cold weather, etc. so uh uh, so i, yeah, i think i'll leave it at that for the moment. now, uh, before we go to the prize, if you have time for of, i want to use your expertise as a, as a nuclear expert because the,

the station surrounding this approach. and you could have planned as well as other nuclear capacities that ukraine has. it is pretty troubling and there is sometimes, at least in russia, i believe that the ukrainian leadership is using nuclear threat and the threat of, uh, new car accidents as a bargaining chip. not only with russia, but even more. so with the west. do you think these explosions are the gas pipelines may change the stance of the ukrainian or stores, or maybe the understanding of what's permitted and what is not me? and when you ask us from that are, and what's not, are you, do you have a specific type of attack in mind? well, it's pretty clear that an attack on the gas pipeline is pretty dangerous. not only in terms of uh, ecological impact, but also, you know, thank god nobody has suffered. but if there is a continued showing on the nuclear station, and the damage could be

a far more significant than the yet both of these possibilities represent a case of, of a, of an industrial terrorism. yeah, well of course you crane is claiming that russia is shelling the yeah. while the russian forces are being stationed there. right. right. i, i, again, i would say i withhold 100 percent judgment, but i find it rather implausible. the idea that russia would take over the plant and then shell its own forces and attempt to destroy the power plants except this, this was a nuclear reactor. there. i don't really see what motives are, but also i think that it's true that within the ukrainian forces there is probably quite a range of players involved. although groups such as the as a battalion or the far right to quote unquote, neo fascist or whatever names you want to use. certainly far, right. highly nationalistic elements, although they've been more fully incorporated into the ukranian forces than they used to be. they used to operate, to some extent, send me autonomously. i,

i think there's probably still a much wider range of, and much less top down control than there might be. and then i suspect there is within the russian forces. so i think it's possible that there are either elements within you for any forces. it could also be something really from central ukrainian government. mm hm. but uh, so i don't know the details there. i also know a 100 percent. it's been years since i focused on some of these issues, whether an attack there could actually initiate a meltdown of the reactor or whether it's simply disposing radioactive material either way it would be a disaster. yeah. can i ask you something? yeah, really quickly, and we are running out of time very, very fast. but i don't know if you, if you heard this news, but just a few hours ago, the crime has been larger. savanski called the maitre to strike russia preventively, to neutralize the so called nuclear threat coming from russia by nuclear. us read, i suppose humans of russia's nuclear capability. uh, that's a, that's

a statement that was interpreted in moscow as the, as an invitation to stripe russia's nuclear capacity of russia's nuclear facilities . what do you seeing at the chances of the west responding positively to something like that? and i certainly hope not. i would like to believe that same voice as will pertain in the west. look, this is the last key, isn't middle of the war. he's dealing with what i can only imagine his extraordinary psychological stress and extraordinary precious within his own government. but the fact that he is in that position and that he perceives themselves as the aggrieved party, it may lead him to make statements that are not at all prudent. for any one, they are not prudent for you cranes that are not prudent for the united states, and that you're not prudent for russia. so is certainly my hopes of us will not take any imprudent actions based on begging, pleading protestations or admissions coming out of ukraine. ultimately, united states exerts control of ukraine. we sometimes lose trace of that fact.

ukraine makes a statement. we must have high mars. we must have long range highmore, as we must do extra. why the united states must acknowledge the simple fact that ukraine ultimately do whatever the united states wants it to do. that's the simple fact for better or for worse. that's the way it is. we are not controlled by mr. zaleski. this is the last key. ultimately, it's controlled by us. so there is no way in the world that the us should be acting on every statement. the mrs will ask the mx and they certainly should not be acting on statements that could lead to rapid escalation and nuclear war route. let's leave it at that. thank you very much for your time and congratulations on the book . thank you and thank you for watching cope to syria again on was

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else and what is coming up. so let me just confirm that i will start following charter decrypt daughter. get on your new north share service and lot scored good from. um it says total capabilities looks like you did. you validate the the more than 700 people are arrested overnight, as friends continues to burn in the wake of a fatal police shooting of a 17 year old french algerian, on tuesday. and arching corresponded addresses a meeting of the un security council, highlighting how the showing of civilians in the don racks frequently goes unnoticed in the west. i now give the floors to mister tate. those weapons being

supplied by nato hunter, allies to ukraine are being wilfully targeted against civilian populations on a daily basis. all miraculously invisible to the western media. and a canyon human rights body launch is an investigation into a legend, mass atrocities by security guards at a local us own pineapple farm. we hear from one of the becomes the guards thoroughly be left me and conscious and dragged me deep inside the pineapple . later in the evening, they carried me outside the plantation and left me to die at the roadside. by that time i was serious the sunday afternoon for marty international studios in moscow. and welcome to the weekly with the weeks tops stories from all around. i'm bureau a isabel,

happy to have you join us to our top story. chaos continues to rain in cities across france. following tuesdays police killing of a young of jury and man. the

a french politician and former presidential candidate eric zamora, believes the unrest seen in france over the past week is tantamount to a civil war of web. eric, we can clearly see that we're in the early stages of a civil war. what is the civil war? it's a confrontation between one part of the population against public authorities or the state is exactly what we have here today. this is an ethnic rise because every way we see losing way people rushed to luxury products. so today the consumption stores police were again deployed and mass across paris and use tear gas against protesters. 45 officers were injured in the flashes. a total of $719.00 people were arrested across the country. a local official said that his house had been attacked by unknown individuals who attempted to rent a car into his house and set the building on fire. the mayor's family sustained

injuries, he added in the southern city of marseilles, the situation was tense during the night. police arrested more than 50 individuals who were looting stores. the classes went on until john was here, guess who's against the crowds. and in leon shops were looted in vandalized. 31 police stations were targeted on saturday night. at least one of them was bombs within and provide explosive device. the french justice ministers threatened to prosecute anyone coincides riots on social media. say to support this is unbearable and it's enough. so we have everything that's our disposal and the courts are meeting their obligations for the no response does not have the amount that strong and systematic and also to pursue and identify people on snapshots and to tell parents to get hold of their kids. it's not up to the state to raise their children to the minister also worn that any parents whose children take part in the riots

could face up to 2 years in prison, or 30000 euro fine, several days of unrest kicked off after a traffic stop on tuesday resulted in police fatally shooting a 17 year old french algerian who was driving a stolen car. the police and non tear attempted to pull over the car with polish license plates. but when the teen reportedly tried to speed off, officers open fire at close range, hitting him in the chest. it's funeral was held on saturday in the same parisian suburb where he was shot dead with crowds gathering to show their solidarity. the incident has re ignited concerns about racial profiling and police brutality in the country. political analysts use of mari told us that while the riots are

necessarily violent, that societal divide has been created because of what he calls discrimination at the hands of french authorities as well. i'm talking about public and civil unrest that constantly happens in france every year. of course, i'm not in any way supporting the rights that are taking place in france. i think a lot of it had been very violent. and so something every person should come down by one should never take place in such a situation. but i think this is an indication of the ground frustration of the masses of the people. they're going to be frustrated with the french government. and the reason being, you know, be across the spectrum, where do you begin discrimination rates a little because 3, coney and government policies that directly or get the pay with religious background. if you practice and you'll be able to handle religions, you know you are no longer to be practicing those really just kind of because this

is the government is enact, seeing a secular uh secular policy which directly targets the religious ideologies of anybody who follows a religious background, this is the growing frustration that the people in france are protesting. and unfortunately, writing about is because of they're not, they're simply not agreeing with the policies of their government. they feel that the government is threatening and put the and the mass on rest and france has spilled over into neighboring switzerland where police have detained 7 people, including 6 use string overnight, riots in the city of lusan. after more than a 100 riders attack shops and police officers, according to local authorities, the unrest was sparked by calls on social media to take to the streets in support of those in france. the

a mass shooting in the us city of baltimore near washington d. c. has left at least 4 people dead and 25 injured. that's according to initial reports. 5 local officials, reports suggests of the 30 shots were fired during a gathering in the south of the city, which had attracted hundreds of vocals. those with the most severe injuries were taken to the hospital, although the exact number of people in critical condition remains unknown. will stay across this developing story and bring you any further updates. and then archie corresponded, has addressed a meeting of the un security council focused on the current threats to international peace and security. j bose drew attention to how the shelling of civilians and don bass goes on, reported in the west. i now give the floors to mister tase vows. well, thank you for asking me to appear like a gentleman, a german, and despite well over

a year of frenzied and what is now used as loosely regulated supply of ink, calculable, numbers of weapons. few grain sources within the country still maintained that it needs an escalating volume of heavy and like weapons and ammunition to conduct this operations. weapons being supplied by nato other allies to ukraine are being with wilfully targeted against civilian populations on a daily basis. dumbass ganske failed her of all miraculously invisible to the western media on the hills of addressing the security council. shay bow has joined us in the studio to talk through the details. well, it's a huge stage. you know, i mean, as a journalist and somebody who's trying to challenge the narratives which western media, you know, a peddling, you know, regularly daily it's, it's a huge honor to, to, to get that opportunity. the idea of the meeting was talking about the weapons, the proliferation of weapons and new grant,

how dangerous that has become. and this was the key point that i focused on at regarding the flooding of you play and utility and society. the impact is having on the country, also the sort of cynical dumping of weapons and refrain by smaller nato countries on, on the promise of being given newer systems for the united states. so the research we did on investigations into that, that a lot of this stuff doesn't work that is actually puts the use as a risk. so we've, we sort of went through a process of examining that, trying to present the evidence that you know, this war was built up since 2014, with nato training 10000 people a year. it didn't just immediately, you know, spring to life. do you claim the minister's vass military machine that have been built, the acceleration of shelling across the line of contact just prior to the russian military and intervention as well? another thing that came up, i suppose, was the you and i'm past the russian. you went on boss, so there's a view, the worst thing to you, right is of the key,

every shame and try to present the case in such