question of financial conflicts of interest within congress, but was told mister president, you can't go so far. so i think that there are conflicts and financial conflicts of interest and power, conflicts of interest that have played some role in motivating the western stances towards what's happening in your book. you make the point that for 200 years of uh, the us as defense policy. it was uh, based, if not on the respect them at least paying some attention to the opponents, red lines or secure to sensibilities. and that's when it came to russia, the united states and nato disregarded this, this principle, the question number one, do you think they made that decision deliberately? was it a conscious choice? and why would they do that? given that, again, the russia is a, is not some 3rd world country. it has nuclear weapons, it has a strong army, it has multiple resources. what do you think would be the ultimate goal of what do what they would be trying to achieve

a cheerfully if they had their dreams fulfilled? yeah, uh let me just back up one step before i try to respond to that and hopefully i won't lose lose the thread of your, your actual question. as i do this, i just want to make a little clear, the notion of the geography and the red lines. and the question of, um, uh, i refer to a book the monroe doctrine. this is a doctor in course it was it referred to as a doctor and initially, but it's based on a statement by then present. president monroe in 1823. that really as that time had to do with colonialism, but ultimately has been interpreted in different ways. having to do with the idea that a, a foreign power, that places a potential opponents of places military forces anywhere near us borders anywhere in the western hemisphere even knows it is crossing a red line. one can only imagine what would happen if, for instance, russia had formed an alliance with canada or mexico, ma'am cube i exhibit the attempt or even to arrive, which is right. yes, cuba,

right, of course. and even that's further away than right on the border. and we, we could see during the cuban missile crisis, how aggressively the us responded, or i didn't say we're aggressively, it could be defensively. but how, what sort of intense fear is of attack that aroused on the part of the united states recognize it as its legitimate security interest. and i think everybody else, including the solve is actually understood. and that's why they, they would say a set on yeah. yeah, yeah, i think that's very true. so you know that there's a chapter in my book or i called putting the show or the other foot by which i mean to say, how would the us respond if russia or china had done something sort of equivalent, forming an alliance with um, with canada and mexico and we saw what happened even with respect to cooper, cuba off the coast. how about if was right on the border, as you crane or georgia or other places are right on rushes border. so i think it's very important to try to the 3 if you are calling this new moral equal and that's

what he's trying to say. but being not if there's clearly doesn't t as, as, as equals e. s. i, i think there's some truth to that many people in, in washington. i think another way to look at it also is there is a writer in blog or robert wright who use the term cognitive empathy. and by that, what he means is sort of your ability to mentally or psychologically transpose yourself and see other issues the other person. and i would say, you know, i think there are people who you could say they have a very uh, they have a view of russia as physically evil. and they say they hate. there certainly are people like that. but i think there are probably others who i would simply say they lack cognitive empathy by which i mean and inability to transpose themselves into the position of the other sites and see how they would feel, quote, even to reverse the picture and see how they would feel if the other side did the same, especially if the american own security and doctrine doesn't allow for that. i mean, if you actually look at the american strategic documents,

there is no space for empathy of any kind that there is a simple statement, does have gemini, that needs to be protected, but which mr. eval of. let's continue this fascinating conversation after a short break. that's where we have to take right now. the what he's got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy on foundation . let it be an arms race based on often very dramatic, the only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very unclear to get a time time to sit down and talk the

welcome back to the point with benjamin envelope of officer of how the west brought word to your brain. and mr. ablow, we began talking in the before the break about how um the lessons of the world will 1 may be relevant in considering this uh, swelling crisis. but i think there are also many 1st that we haven't seen, and one of them would be as far as i would claim, is the uh for as the explosion at the north stream pipeline, the act of industrial terrorism. something like this never happened before. even during the cold war and also the, the nuclear threat to, i'm sure, you know, follow the, i know that you, you, you have

a keen interest in nuclear 1st and use the lobby congress on your plate issues. and we all know that there is a huge nuclear station, right in the middle of this war zone data is at least according to the russian narrative has been constantly shelled by ukraine. so let's consider this. first of all, i want to ask for your reactions on the, on the explosions of the north stream pipeline. because regardless of who um is to blame. i think it really uh, shifts the frame because it introduces a new norm that though aside can one side can attack the industrial infrastructure . and 2nd of all, it also shows that in the area made the naval control. no infrastructure is safe and could be all in fact vulnerable to industrial terrorism. well, i have many things to say about this. i'll try to give you a very brief uh and you'll keep me on track if i could south carolina on thing. yeah, just you throw

a throw rock in the 1st. obviously this is extremely dangerous uh, movement. i'm not quite sure i'll call escalation, but let's call it a movement of conflict into another sphere. whether this was carried out by russia, by the united states, by other nato powers it, uh, i don't think anyone knows for sure yet, although i have an opinion of what i think is most likely. so is a starting point. i want to say that i think this is very dangerous and it could lead to a type of sort of escalation of attacks on, on infrastructure outside of the current battlefield. and this, there's no end to this uh where this could go. and number 2, i want to make a comment about the reasons why i say more attention needs to be paid to the possibility in the west of the united states has actually behind us. and then finally, i want to comment on something about the western media, which i've been extremely disappointed in. okay, well, so let's make it one by one. why do you think the united states may have some

associations without a part from a secretary of state anthony blinking or presenting that as as a great opportunity? yeah, well, i think the things that are most persuasive to me are statements made by both president biden and by the under secretary of state for a political affairs victoria newland. both of them in this period before the war started. but when russia was ready massing on the border of both of those sales explicitly that they, that the us i, i have the actual quotations. i'll actually read them because i don't want to rely with the paper. i went back to the video which anyone can find online, just search mr. biting uh, north stream to uh, we will end this pipeline um, mr. by the state explicitly. this was made on february 7th at a press conference with um, uh the, the chance all of shelves uh on the,

on the podium with him. if russia evades that means tanks or troops crossing the border of ukraine again, then there, then there will no longer be a north stream too. we will bring it to an end. and then a member of the press said, how will you do that exactly. since the project and control of a project is within german control, and mr. buys and responded in a very knowing tone, i promise you will be able to do it in a separate presentation. victoria and new and the under secretary of state stated, if rush it invades ukraine, one way or another north stream to will not move forward. i the, i think that those statements alone. they do not prove that the us did it. and i, in and ultimate sense, i'm withholding any judgment with certainty. but in medicine there's something

called prior probability. you look at the full constellation of data that's available before you to undertake a definitive diagnostic test. and you say, how likely is it that one party one disease or another disease or one party or another? and i would say that these statements were explicit statements about what would happen if russia is a good and then rush invaded. and then this did happen. i would say this place is a high, a high prior probability that the united states was behind it. so does not prove it . and i remain open to new evidence, but i think they should be much more concerned than there is that this is what happened. but i think i need to make an important clarification for our viewers that mr. barton made that statement about north stream to pipeline the new pipeline that russia constructed. where's the explosions to place? i've been north stream one pipeline reach, but still is pretty much the same because that pipeline was intended and was i was

intended to bring natural gas to germany as well as to many other countries. now the americans liked to talk about the solidity of that alliances, particularly the alliances with your a brand. it's pretty clear to anyone who's, who knows anything about how industry authorize that german economy to a large extent done. and many other european economies were built on the access to affordable russian energy sources. that's been very foundation or one of the foundations of european prosperity. if we take on that hypothesis that the united states was behind it one way or another, or that if even functioning it that it approves of it which you know, anthony blinking sat it explicitly. that is a great opportunity. what do you think would be? what do you think that would say about the american attitude towards it? if you are being allied, do you think they will be able to function to maintain that industrial capacity without having energy?

that yeah, well 1st, so let me just comment briefly on your point about north stream one versus north stream 2 and i think that's an excellent point. one that and i'll be focusing on, i do want to make what i think may be one small correction. unless there's some new news today, my understanding was that at least as of yesterday, they were a total of 3 explosions affecting both pipelines. however, each pipeline has to is a double pipeline. so my understanding is that both of the, both of the pipelines of the duplex pipeline in north stream one were damaged. and one of the 2 in north stream 2 or damage in my suspicion is that the other one that whoever was planning this actually intended to hit all 4, but things get complicated at uh, 250 feet below the ocean surface. and so i think that is a valid point that you're raising and then perhaps it should make one a little bit less certain or a little bit less confident that it was the us. and maybe it takes a little bit of pressure weight off the statements of vitamin newland. uh,

what does it say about the relationships about if the us did in fact carry this out and i want to get to the press also, maybe you can focus my question after that. but what does this say about the relationship? if this happens? certainly the united states has long been opposed to the north stream to pipeline. certainly, some people have pointed out that this if, if the north stream to pipeline or the north stream one also stopped operating. that this would create tremendous markets, new markets for liquefied natural gas coming from the united states. certainly the there could be influence as along those lines. i am not quite so mercenary. and as cynical in my interpretation there, i think again that some of this may have come from what were, among some people, at least, you know, well intentioned, that they correctly or wrong correctly or incorrectly had a deep fear of russia and didn't want not want a closer alliance between russia and germany, and they saw the supply of natural gas as a, uh,

an important element of that at. and one of the motivations that one could posit would be, you could almost call it a desperate attempt to keep a russia and germany from developing a closer connection. that perhaps germany would be peeled off, so to speak, from the western atlantic alliance and move somewhere closer to russia. if in the winter, the german population began to become extremely uh, uncomfortable with cold weather, etc. so uh uh, so i, yeah, i think i'll leave it at that for the moment. now, uh, before we go to the prize, if you have time for of, i want to use your expertise as a, as a nuclear expert because the, the station surrounding this approach. and you could have planned as well as other nuclear capacities that ukraine has. it is pretty troubling, and there were some times, at least in russia, i believe that the ukraine leadership is using nuclear threat and the threat of,

uh, nuclear accidents as a bargaining chip, not only with russia, but even more. so with the west. do you think these explosions are the gas pipelines may change the stance of the ukrainian or stores, or maybe the understanding of what's permitted and what is not? and when you ask us from it or what's not, do you have a specific type of attack in mind? well, it's pretty clear that an attack on the gas pipeline is pretty dangerous, not only in terms of a ecological impact, but also, you know, thank god nobody has suffered. but if there is a continued showing on the nuclear station, and the damage could be a far more significant, and yet both of these possibilities represent a case off of a, of an industrial terrorism. yeah, well of course you crane is claiming that russia is shelling the yeah. while the russian forces are being stationed there. right. right. i, i, again, i would say i withhold 100 percent judgment,

but i find it rather implausible. the idea that russia would take over the plant and then shell its own forces and attempt to destroy the power plants except this, this was a nuclear reactor there. i don't really see what motives are. and also i think that it's true that within the ukrainians forces there is probably quite a range of players involved. although group such as the as a battalion or the far right, the quote unquote and you know, fascists or what, whatever names you want to use. certainly far right, highly nationalistic elements, although they've been more fully incorporated into the ukranian forces than they used to be, they used to operate, to some extent, send me autonomously. i think there's probably still a much wider range of and much less top down control than there might be. and then i suspect, and there is within the russian forces. so i think it's possible that there are either elements within the, for any forces. it could also be something really from central you printing and

government. but uh, so i don't know the details there. i also know a 100 percent. it's been years since i focused on some of these issues. whether in a taxi or could actually initiate a meltdown of the reactor or whether it's simply disposing uh radioactive material, either way it would be a disaster. yeah. can i ask you something? yeah. are as quickly and we are running out of time very, very fast. but i don't know if you, if you heard this news, but just a few hours ago, the crime has been larger savanski called a maitre to strike russia preventively to neutralize the so called nuclear threat coming from russia by nuclear threat. i suppose humans, the russians nuclear capability, that's a, that's a statement that was interpreted in moscow as the, as an invitation to strike russia's nuclear capacity of russia's new facilities. what do you think that the chances of the west responding positively to something like that? and i certainly hope not. i would like to believe that same voices will pertain in

the west. look, this is the last key is the middle of the war. he's dealing with what i can only imagine his extraordinary psychological stress and extraordinary precious within his own government. but the fact that he is in that position and that he perceives themselves as the aggrieved party, it may lead him to make statements that are not at all prudent. for any one, they are not prudent for you cranes that are not prudent for the united states, and that you're not prudent for russia. so is certainly my hopes of us will not take any imprudent actions based on begging, pleading protestations or admissions coming out of ukraine. ultimately, united states exerts control of ukraine. we sometimes loose trace of that fact ukraine makes the statement we meet, must have high mars. we must have long range highmore, as we must do extra. why the united states must acknowledge the simple fact that ukraine ultimately do whatever the united states wants it to do. that's the simple

fact for better or for worse, that's the way it is. we are not controlled by mr. zaleski. this is the last key. ultimately it's controlled by us. so there is no way in the world that the us should be acting on every statement. the mrs will ask the mx and they certainly should not be acting on statements. they could lead to rapid escalation and nuclear war route. let's leave it at that. thank you very much for your time and congratulations on the book. thank you and thank you for watching cope to syria again on was a part of the the,

[000:00:00;00] the, the french and national police, the lions they've come a must be in post 5 full against what is called the dictates of violence. minorities, the 5 days of ongoing lines, right. so with the police killing of a french algerian teenager. and i'll see correspondence, the address of the meeting of the un security council, highlighting the software and getting connected on civilians and don't call you claim views of west. and what i now gives a floor to mr. chase bows. weapons being supplied for the nato on their allies to

ukraine are being unwilling to be targeted against civilian populations on a daily basis. all miraculous being invisible to the western media on the organization for as long as co operation closed for collective action against repeated acts of its lama supposed to be following the latest spinning of the co wrong 0. and just the function to protest completed the it's 10 pm here in most given you're watching the weekly here on, on the international with the very latest world news updates on the ground. look at the stories, the shapes, the week. it's quite happy with us. i was talking phones where at least 10 northern cities have declined across you to tackle kalsich wyatt's that have grips the country since tuesday. the unrest with sparks why the police killed and got a young man of all jerry and just sent him paris.

the french politician on the former presidential candidate or it gives him more believes the unrest seen in front of the past week is tantamount to civil war. if web you, eric, we can clearly see that we're in the early stages of a civil war. what is the civil war? it's a confrontation between one part of the population against public authorities or

the state is exactly what we have here today. this is an ethnic rise because every way we see losing way people rushed to luxury products. so today the consumption stores, the most convenient police, were deployed on mass across power. racing is to a gas against protest is $45.00 offices were injured in the classes while a total of $719.00 people were arrested across the country over night on saturday. and accommodating sounds of powers that protest is run the call into the house of the local men. according to officials, the suspects set the vehicle on file and crashed it to the politicians house, injuring his wife, and the southern city of law say the situation was 10 steering. the 9th with police arresting, moving 50 individuals who were losing stores. the classes went on until though with tear gas used against the crowns. us and leon shops were vandalized to lose it. on saturday nights, $31.00 police stations were also targeted with at least one of them being kicked

with an improvised bomb in response to the violence. the french national police in line says, paris to crack down on protest is which of being branded violence, minorities in the face of these wild toads, asking for call them is not enough. we must impose its all colleagues select the majority of citizens can no longer about to sell for the dictates of the small islands minorities. today the police are flights and because we are, it's war tomorrow, we will be in resistance. and the governments will have to be aware of its, we should actually, or the find. the meaning of the democratic states says, uh, democracies, especially in the western world, have been involved in lately. and the, these kind of comments actually seem normal these days in these countries. stress is very keen on the actually use, very picky on the, on the simulation. and it's,

it's, it's actually it's as a foot force, the simulation policy. and this, uh, its focus is also on secure lives and then the one identity policy. so they want to push everyone to, to everything, but with the immigration, when did the, with the melting pot, it's happening in france. this is going to be, this is going to be very hard. and the add to the economic issues of the country is dealing with. so this is a male take. this has a part to, to do this after the upcoming years. well, several days that on the west cakes, off off to a traffic stop on tuesday result in french police face and leasing a 17 year old boy driving the stolen car of the police unknown to i sent it to pull over the call with police license place but when the teen tried to speed off,

the offices opened fire at close range hitting him in the chest. his funeral was held on saturday, with crowds gathering to show that spelled his hour to the incident as the re ignited concerns of a racial profiling of police brutality in the country. meanwhile, the french justice minister threatened to prosecute anyone who insides, riot phone, social media, and his quote on power to control the children or otherwise face up to 2 years in prison under 30000. you are fine. but my son, rest in phones is spelled as a into neighbor and switzerland where police have detained 7 people, including 6 use during overnight riots and the city of law son also moving a 100 why it has a top shops on police offices, according to local authorities, the unrest with splunk spike holes on social media to take to the streets in support of those in front form is ready and best to, to funds a positive that has given all to his take on the underlying reasons behind to be on west, in the european country,

this is the great page here up front that the says not been able to integrate them because we're thinking year about or read the paper. um, families were there 17 and 18 year old and visual that'd be nice the greatest by now. and the very fact that they are not, i think, is today one upfront, the biggest problem. the duration has not been sol, solved for many of this has been from the main problem, seems very loud. so i would say for the uh, the full tlc. even the question of tv gratian. so this is something which we continue to be with us and we continue to buy the product i am. did they find that solution for integrating those people the better? which has not been done on the latest why it's in process,

certainly not the 1st full the country. the government has previously been a case of failing to address the root cause is of such instances. as we explained in more detail on our website, r t dot com, do check it out. i don't see correspond that has addressed the meeting of the un security council focused on the current students to international peace and security se, but it's true attention to how the shelling of civilians and the don't boss goes on, reports it in the west. i now give the floors to mister tase vows. well, thank you for asking me to appear like a gentleman, a german, and despite well over a year of frenzied and what is now used as loosely regulated supply of ink calculable, numbers of web. a few grain sources within the country still maintain that it needs an escalating volume of heavy, unlike weapons and ammunition to conduct this operations. weapons being supplied by

nato other allies to ukraine are being with wilfully targeted against civilian populations on a daily basis. dumbass guns, failure of all miraculously invisible to the western media. following the security council meeting mike holiday to scott, discuss the details with shape as but it's a huge stage. you know, i mean, as a journalist and somebody who's trying to challenge the narratives which western media, you know, a peddling, you know, regularly, daily ears, it's a huge honor to, to, to get that opportunity. the idea of the meeting was talking about the weapons, the proliferation of weapons in your brain, how dangerous that has become. and this was the key point that i focused on at regarding the flooding of the play and utility and society. and the impact is having on the country, also the sort of cynical dumping of weapons and refrain by smaller nato countries on, on the promise of being given newer systems for the united states. so the research we did on investigations into that, that

a lot of this stuff doesn't work that is actually puts the use as a risk. so we've, we sort of went through a process of examining that, trying to present the evidence that you know, this war was built up since 2014, with nato training 10000 people a year. it didn't just immediately, you know, spring to life. do you claim the minister's vass military machine that have been built, the acceleration of shelling across the line of contact just prior to the russian military and intervention as well? another thing that came up, i suppose was the you and i'm boss the russian you in on boss. so there's a view that the keys good is in control of your stories. thing to rates is the key every shame and try to present the case in such a way that they began on and ukraine, known even at the beginning of the military operation to repel russian aggression. this scheme has turned into something like a private military campaign of ukraine in a year and a off because at that point, we're sure what kind of damage has rusher inflicted on the united states