it a dairy war of sort, cuz on the one side of course, you have the dairy lobby, which is incredibly powerful on both sides of the border by the way. they have voice at many tables. they're quite influential, politically and economically. but on the other side, what we're, what we're seeing that's new is our plant base companies, uh, companies who manufacture products. so using vegetable proteins, they're out there actually uh, not only advocating for their product, but the crew that they openly criticize dairy and general oakley is certainly one company that comes to mind right now in america, you're seeing the company advertising in many newspapers ads. they put, they're putting as criticising dairy, so it, it's something we haven't seen before, but you can see that right now. uh, both sides, i guess are challenging each other. but still,

we have to recognize the fact that the dairy lobby in north america is still quite influential and powerful. have we actually considered what would happen if dairy farms around the world actually started closing? and do you see some of the same lack of consumption and present day, how could potentially lead to that? it's not just the supply of milk which will be affect. i mean, there's a whole eco system we have to worry about. oh, absolutely. so when you think about a dairy farm, you have to think of the oak eco system around it to think of the machinery. i think of the jobs and the work in rule america and rule canada. i mean those are critical things. when you think about how to grow and economy, you can just grow the economy. uh, by amplifying urban centers. you have to think about, you know, uh, farm land use and, and, and you really quickly realize that animal proteins play a huge role all uh, with uh, with territory occupancy, basically north america,

its quite create a lot of farmers are actually growing crops to feed animals uh and of course with dairy farms. uh you have dairy farmers really being quite a busy uh, growing crops to feed animals and so on and so forth. so there's a huge eco system around each and every farm and north america that can be uh, that can be denied really. so obviously the very sector is quite critical for agger for the economy in north america. on a global perspective, the united nations food and agriculture organization and just announced milk eggs and meet are vital sources of nutrients and calories. but does this not go against the push we're seeing to go beginning globally or do use more alternatives to dairy and other types of naturally grown agriculture products? i think uh the message that, at least i'm hearing is,

is that the issue of proteins in general is very much about choice. it's not about this or that. it's more about this and that for many years obviously animal proteins have had all the attention the world. and most consumers in north america were fixated in, in, in eating and consuming animal proteins. but now we have options. uh, i think what the u. n is saying basically is that yes, they are traditions. uh, they are uh habits and it's not necessarily bad to eat, drink milk, eat dairy products, eat meat. but at the same time we do have alternatives. now we can also embrace, that's kind of how i'm reading you when the, when's message that came out recently? do you agree with what they're saying? yeah, unfortunately, sometimes politicians say things not based on actual scientific factors or what is

actually happening on the ground. rather they get their sources from libraries or things which might just look good on paper. do you agree with what their assumption is? i do. i do. uh, i think uh i've, i've always believed that it's important for consumers to, to be empowered with options and not deny them of options through legislation. i don't think it's right at the same time though, i certainly would, would prioritize transparency. texas, for example, just recently passed a law forcing a protein, retailers so groceries to label. uh, what's in the product, if there are insects, for example, or if the product is actually called debated in the lab and that's coming in the us probably by the end of 2023 retailers will be forced to label in the presence of cultivated meat products and so i think that's,

that's an important thing to do because it will inform consumers properly. it will provide more transparency and that's kind of what's it's missing right now. and if you, if you lose the trust of consumers, a lot of things can happen. unfortunately. thank you, dr. so the boy stay with us. after the break, we're going to continue our conversation, ask, who is hurting the dairy industry is gross. the much the who is the aggressor today i'm authorized with additional strong sanctions today. russia was the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. a number that is constantly growing. but i think you chose the just

a couple seniors who speak on the thing and we see more in the way. we'll shift for banning all in portion of russian oil and gas is suffering the price for another country. hope all's well. we're going to reset the fed service thing for the little joe biden in imposing these sanctions on russia has destroyed the american economy. so there's a boomerang the welcome back. we're continue our conversation regarding the global trend away from terry. we're solving, charlotte, blah, who is a canadian researcher and professor and food distribution and policy adult hoisin university in halifax, nova scotia, canada. he's also a former dean of the university's faculty of management. thank you for continuing to join us doctor, you know, i am finding this conversation fascinating because for the majority of our adult

lives and even our children's we were told organic was a way to go. in fact, the less scientific involvement in food and more just naturally grown from the earth, was a goal for ourselves, our bodies, and more importantly, what we found our children. are you concerned this trend seems like almost the exact opposite? well, uh many years ago, uh organics were the only option option we had outside conventional food. uh, i mean, uh, the main street, the mainstream stuff really dominated the marketplace. and so if once someone wanted to get something different, they have to go with organics. so right now with this i, per fragmentation of, of our food demand, we're seeing more innovation, we're seeing more companies looking at the market very differently. we're not talking about the consumer anymore. we're talking about consumers recognizing that

all of us have different needs different wants. and, and that's great, i think cuz of the last i'd say 10 years or so we've, we've made some great progress and, and i actually do believe, uh, at least based on the data that we have in canada, consumers are actually way more fu, literate and protein literate since cove it because we are spending more time at home. we are cooking more, we know more recipes reviews, new ingredients, and so consumers are much more engaged now and was inflation. it got even, it got even better. i think people are much more careful with how they spend their money. they're investing and interested in not just the not just buying calories. so when it comes to proteins, obviously they're looking around. they're looking for different options. if, if the meat counter spokes the, if they only look at the me try fact beef chicken and pork which has been the case

for decades, they'll actually move elsewhere and try to seek a more affordable protein source. could this lead to more non nutrition and some of those areas around the world, which was already struggling to have a food source for consumption. you're taking something as natural a way that an animal can provide. i think we all, we always have to be concerned about food and security. i think, i think we're, we're bound to see food in secure regions around the world. unfortunately. uh cuz you have wars uh, geo politics unfortunately. so there's always a country or out there are region impacted by climate change as well severely. and that leads to fam and unfortunately, and we saw that a few years ago, we're seeing it still today. and so i think our best hope is to actually is to better tool our farmers to grow and increase yields and,

and make sure making sure that that crops remain as affordable as possible, including pulses, lentils chick peas and all those crops that we grow in north america, and that would allow, eventually, a groups that are impacted by climate change. uh, do you have access to affordable protein? what does not happen in north america, in recent years, uh, is to see plant based solutions, analogs, uh, being price fordable, a for consumers. uh, they're often priced higher, they're more expensive, but that that is about the change. we're our state, we're starting to see a shift in the marketplace. there was a huge gap of about 3540 percent between analogs and, and traditional meat products. but that is going down progressively, and so i do believe that at the counter will reach parity very,

very soon with dairy, and there are alternatives. we have reached parity pretty much. and so right now, if a consumer wants old milk or story milk, all new milk your, we are expect that consumer to, to spend as much money as if that person would want dairy milk. are you worried, as we've so often found, when you deal with money and consumption and the consumer that we could be compromising the integrity of the nutrition of a product to make it cheaper product? i mean, how can consumers know which food comes from the ground or lab? so yeah, right now, uh what, what uh, what we found in recent years is that for uh, alternatives there was a specified nation to replicate. what was already out there a beef pork chicken. uh, the reality is that most north americans enjoy eating meat products. so what they

but they came in with a product that was more expensive, more a little to a pro, build or process and not as healthy. and so it, it was hard to see, to understand why a consumer would off for something that is more expensive, less nutritious, and it goes through a process to replace something that they actually already enjoy. so what that is about to change, what we're seeing right now are many companies reformulating making their products healthier. and this, and this fascination to replace something this stomach share mentality is, is slowly fading away. and this is what's new. and agra food, i think, is that the stomach share mentality, which means food is a 0 sum game. if i, if i get as a company i get into your stomach as a consumer, the other person, the other company won't,

it's not the case anymore. actually do think that consumers or the marketplace is, is after values. and so what's it, what's, what values are embedded in plant based products? well, planets the environment, uh, animal welfare, things like that. people are actually going to look at products very differently. and in the for this 3 has been slow adapting to this new reality, but we're getting there. so i don't believe that plant based product or vegetable proteins won't be nutritious, fall that 4444 for long. and as far as, as a countries that are impacted by simon or food is security. well, i do believe that they'll be more on process commodities provided to them. and of course, if it's on process it's, it's pretty healthy. of course it's, it boils down to affordability, and that's been a challenge over the last 12 months,

but now things are way more stable. interesting, you did just bring up another aspect in all of this, the climate change debate. and what is going on with the animal concerned, or the treatment of animals? you know, he'd just produced a 12 page document on why people should stop drinking milk. one reason is they considered animal abuse, saying the mass production of dairy turns innocent and gentle cows into industrialized milking machines. your thoughts on this, their legitimate concerns. uh i, i, uh, worked on very farms when i was a kid, i'm very much aware of what happens on very farms, but most see dollars do not. i mean, they don't understand their genetics and how things work and, and, and farmers, uh, they were all for advocacy. they're out there trying to educate the public about, about the hard work they do. but they've never get free god. perhaps what singers

were hearing from them are things that they wouldn't like when appreciate, you know, uh there are things on, on, on farms that, you know, for someone who does, does not understand culture. it could be troubling. you know, so that's the one thing that is going on right now, and that's why more, more people are concerned about animal welfare questioning our industrialized model . uh, is it, is this really something we wanna encourage? yes or no? and so i do believe that animal welfare concerns won't disappear, they will likely grow overtime. and here's the other thing that makes us believe that it will change is that all the last few years, many, many people have gotten new pets at home in canada alone, 16000000 pets are owned by humans. and as soon as it's in, it's in the scientific literature, as soon as you have a pets uh at home,

your perspective about and will fair changes. and so you are basically expecting to a certain extent that farmers will treat, they're unable to say more as city dwellers would treat their pets. and that's not going to go away. we're having less children, we're having more pets. so i do believe that a worker will continue to be a growing concern for, for, for people. now, a pita is of course, a lobby group, and you have to also understand and there they are. there's, there's some history behind dairy and it's not new that we've been milking cows and producing milk so that, that also needs to be appreciated as well. progress will lead to change, but it will take some time. i mean, the treatment of animals is just one element of it. then there's the climate change element. new york city mayor eric adams came out and said the vast majority of food

is contributing to our emissions crisis lies in meat and dairy products. we already know a plant power diet supposedly is better for your physical and mental health. is it better for the planet? do you believe towels and dairy farms are really the source which needs to be targeted right now, causing damage to our planet? or is this just kind of escape? i do think for other reasons instead of dealing with climate change these days. oh, a little. so 1st of all uh, the dairy sector uh is, uh is of course looking at climate change very seriously. they are looking at reducing gas emissions as much as possible. and uh, and many dairy groups around north america are aiming at becoming carbon neutral uh 520402050. uh so they are aware that they need to change and they are aware that their practices right now uh may not be consistent with

uh with the targets um set by the parents agreement for example, by 2030. but we are seeing some movements. so putting pressure on the very sector is not necessarily a bad thing, but to actually claim that this is just not an viable option at this point would be, i would say premature cuz you need to allow the industry to adap and changing technologies will come forward to help dairy farmers to become more of our environment to the friendly and that takes time. thank you professor sylvia charlotte blah for joining us in the dairy industry has faced many challenges in recent years, which have contributed to his struggles. it's important to note that while the dairy industry is facing these challenges, it continues to be a significant sector in many regions and dairy products. ramirez stapleton, the diets of many people worldwide at 1st are also being made within the industry

to adapt to these are changing consumer preferences, improving the sustainability practices and exploring new market opportunities. this is miss sky. now here's where do 360 view. thanks for watching the i want to absolutely act me stop occurring, pleads video receipts ace in crisis it clearly, i think there is no doubt about people to participate in a soft e always eats without hope. the ace at the always see being able to play a role these preventive things for at least not even managing the conflict between the russia and ukraine or the russian device.

the a car ramming and stabbing attack. his tel aviv leaving 7 people wounded. this comes amid a deadly is riley attacked in the west banks, jeanine refugee camp. also ahead the hedge and many of the west. some world full assessed the hedge and many of the dollar ends in order to install a new world order. we need to remove this global practice of using the don't like national exchanges. we need to switch to national currencies breaking away from the jump. many of the dollar is a top priority. that's the 1st message from a ron's leader. after becoming a full fledged member of the shanghai cooperation organization. and you can media reports that that countries as a,

as commander has destroyed potential evidence of war crimes committed by british special forces in afghanistan against the civilian population. the of the coming to you from the russian capital. this is our to international with the latest world news. i'm here a isabel, happy to have you join us. a car ramming and stopping in tel aviv has left 7 people wounded. a warning, some may find the following images disturbing. it's the suspect 2 stops at least one person after exiting his vehicle was later shot dead. the incident comes a day after israel launch the biggest ariel and ground defensive in the west bank city of geneva into decades targeting a refugee camp with air strikes and raids. a local reporter gave what he saw at the scene. you can see behind the scenes where the ferry ride with you as many as

possible, riley, you're on that bad stage and they've been, they've been part of the deep it is a wide river road and you can see the damage the car did to the bob station then the officer dad said jerry said was the cause of the car and we tried to continue to stop people on the one of these various i've had that had gotten seem like we're going to the police fast. got them and then your lives that are wrong my the best bang we and he had the special permission to you guys or maybe this man. so some of the people here are more or less, please. and some are more from the life being a simple math and that there's a little defense in between them. even here on the phone. these seem to be running as far as i can. but some of them saying because of the last meeting and some of them saying because of the ride and. busy that say,

government like 3 names and right being in band and from and you can't do the trying to get you while from before. so maybe this is why he's trying to ask the latest latent exam. what's installing the recent days in the name of the bank and reset it riley sag by the army before the ruling records. and for many years we didn't see if maybe this is resolved. but this, the fact that we see here today from a bi to one of the injured parties, a 46 year old woman, is in critical condition. according to the rescue service, russell punch spoke. person for the united have solemn medical organization brings us his account of what happened. number volunteers were dispatched to an emergency, it took place on the intel a v and responded within less than minutes of the scene. they saw that there had been a car coming at a bus stop. a number of people were injured and they're still hearing done shots

around the area. um, one person was injured from a stab wounds bleeding profusely. one person in serious condition, a number of others in various degrees of injury, like some are as, as people suffering promotional psychological shot. are human beings very quickly responded treated people at the scene and then also are psycho trauma. price response unit provide an emotional psychological stabilization for those and suffering from shock treating and stabilizing them at the scene before they were taken to the hospital for continuing treatment. we do the best we can to provide treatment to limit the amount of, of injuring damage. but these things are very difficult things to see and to be, to be task or a sponsor on a regular basis. at least 10 people have been killed in a 100 injured in the past 24 hours. and it is really a tax in the west bank city of janine, according to local officials,

with another $120.00 reportedly arrested. the violets follows is really military's raid on a local refugee camp, including a medical center claiming to target palestinian terrorist groups in the area the side global residence to assume that tractors locating the city to prevent eliza palestinian militants. from leaving, janine i'm service of said the rate is the largest in 2 decades. at least 10 air strikes, 5 is rarely defense. forces have been reported. israel claims that everyone killed had participated in combat and says there are no plans to expand their operation. the

meanwhile, the palestinian health ministry has reported the highest number of casualties in violence since last year. the latest escalation follows mounting concern from the un security council, and israel's prime minister says his troops will push on until all their objectives are cheese. how simeon read pressing societies, folks, 1st, when the ball far saw, describe the situation in the refugee camps as dire? well, understanding that humanitarian organizations are being denied access to be injured . yesterday it was a very critical and hard conditions for most a posting and civilians inside the accounts. we obviously sense of pools for humanitarian cases, whether children or elderly people or 6 people will. we're calling us to hunt and evacuating them outside of the account of the channels. we have done all basically,

it's just as bad for me that says or anything else. so the situation is really hard and it's fixing every one. we face great difficulties in access to any of the tears you can do to the great destruction and the infrastructure and battles. besides the deluxe and zab attitude, you camp is surrounded by his ready militaries from different army areas. our musical teams have a phase denied access in some cases and delete access, and then others um, 2 of our ambulances where it stopped and that is really, soldiers took the keys of the ambulances and just stopped a word, medical teams and also took their uh, mobile phones and that's how we've them to deal with some injuries. so basically we are just calling for the protection of the medical team. so we can conduct over to human attorney, enroll, evaluate the situation,

and know exactly what is the top priorities and the mean needed items for those where you've actually, we just outside of the teacher. the uncontrolled accumulation of that by western countries is increasing the risk of a global financial crisis. that's the warning by russian president vladimir putin while addressing the shanghai cooperation organizations online summit. meanwhile, state leaders have taken to the floor with the russian and chinese leaders identifying challenges the block faces. but those are the goods. as a system with the international security system is degrading. the risks of a new global economic and financial crisis are increasing against the backdrop of the uncontrolled accumulation of debts, of developed countries, social stratification, growing poverty around the world, and the deterioration of food and environmental security. english as well must

remain vigilance against it too. and all attempts to ignore its and you called war and provoke, a confrontation between blocks and all region. i made. susie chan correspondence, shane sham gene takes us through the main points made by chinese presidency. i tried to straighten susan king, i made a very significant remark during the summit where he's dressed in need for unity and co operation. calling for the original leaders to take charge of their own country's futures and also pledged to work with su, members day to oppose protectionism, unilateralism una letter growth sections and the extension of national security concept in the fit to accelerate the economic recovery in the region. the also proposed establishment of the organization's own development back and to promote digital currency cooperation, a roofer, the presence she also called for

a strengthening cooperation on the belt, emerald initiative, trade and investment, and liberalization, and facilitation. and for acceleration in port infrastructure as well. yes, to say it more efforts are needed to construct the international but logistic channel to ensure it's stable and smooth supply chain for original industries. and he also invited all parties to belt and road international cooperation summit for him this year to jointly ensure the student benefits all parties of benefits the world wider. and for us as india chairs, the organization summit are corresponded room june sharma is in new delhi. and brings us the details shown like corporation organization posted by new denny from the scenario movie. they're making some important points in his opening remarks. firstly, talks about.