it's the best nato does not seem to be particularly interested, bought a, frankly, also from the russian federation. i did not really a sense at this urgency, you know, to kind of get back and, and, and, and try to reinvigorate this arms control architecture. so that was where i think at the lack of interest a, by all the relevant stakeholders. and these also frustrated the look at the same is true for a dollar example 5 that wanted to address and that is the main screen. and so you know that the tribes to the latest to contact in the, in the don't boss. and i think of course, the be far from perfect, but they would have to re present the blueprint. the results are, these are the complete ended on boss uh uh,

partly about 50 expects and also a relatively short period of time. i think that was never at the same time at as a genuine political commitment on either side to take these agreements seriously. on the one side that was a reluctance to implement, to talk of the political formations on the other. there was a re dockins to really deal seriously with the security probations. and basically that was an ongoing plain game and, and, and, and, and, and, and if i want to come 1st, what do you think of provisions? i'll fit you into probation. well, and that's fine. and what's going on as don't bus was being continuously shell from the ukrainian sides and the majority of the desktop. we know that like it's documented. and in part thanks to the or c emissions the, the majority of casualties of dr. moore, starting from 2014, was on the eastern ukrainian side on the separate to side. but putting that aside,

i want to ask you about the sort of the, whether the negotiating process holds any prospect whatsoever at this point. because russia took a very dramatic step for itself. i think many russians are shocked by the actions of the russian government. they and it only came with a time i seen when the decision makers would come to a point or to a conclusion when they would not believe in the negotiating process. and i think there is a strong sense and most good that piece process. the conflicting efforts have been methodically abused at all the negotiations. i used simply as a measure of getting some respite for military action and never, never committed to west. uh, you know, a will to implement that. uh, is there any uh, legitimacy to, to that kind of opinions. i would agree that you know the sides are and i, and i use the plural eventually and not the people i'm optically. and

besides the are big, there were certain time periods, but they never are never overlapping vend. i said is that was a genuine commitment to move forward with implementing at the means of agreements, for instance, a few months after president. so let's keep the power, i really have the feeling that, that, that, that was a genuine commitment. but then you know, at the window also, but you need the cost. and, and you know, when i last but my mandate that sector to chat with. and i kind of, you know, so dr. me or he meets of something very protracted. and i didn't see the out, which in my, you 1000 costs. if i a war box, i have c see bits of frustration and, but again, i would put the blame on both sides for and this lack of a general idea to implement the means to agreement. ok,

well mr. government here we have to take a very some break right now, but she will be back in just a few moments station. the . so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy, even foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. the only personally i'm going to resist, i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very critical of time. time to sit down and talk the

the the next one is a far as best. it's almost parameter, director of the geneva center for security policy on former secretary general of the organization for security and cooperation in europe. mr. graham and your uh, in 2025. the house. okay. as the, the founding document uh for the or c will mark is 50th anniversary and it has some beautiful principals there that actually helped us put an end to the cold war.

and i think one that i asked was signed, there was a clear recognition that differences exist and that they have to be dealt with. and yet when we look at the year of right now, there seems to be so much stress on you need to you. there's barely annual for even the negotiation, not only between russia and europe, or russia and the west, but even within the west. why do you think, 15 years after the creation of the or c, which is supposedly dedicated to freedom of speech, to you know, dialogue as contentious as it may be? why do you think there's such a fervor such a demand on uniform agreement within the western time? i think to meet the half again. uh, come back to uh, uh, an era off. there are a tough tale, political computation, and unfortunate the, you know, the print, the principal,

the fact you refer to it. that's where i agreed in, in the framework of the helsinki final accord, the 9 things 75 and the and, and then resubmit that by, by states. again in 19191999 into a uh, 2010 in uh you know, so no, unfortunately, uh by no, but the questions these principles i think that has uh at least late to not being serious at the time to the database they must be being these principles and disney, they must, they, uh, uh, is i, uh, um these braces, he buys the land mustang needs to be addressed and a scanner not addressed it, they, uh, it leads to po, retentions and, and uh, and com site. and let me illustrate that point, you know,

it varies regarding all those states that are jail, aka for the jalap correct graphic, the be the russian federation and nato. and it varies uh and get you a lot of twitter in your introductory comments. and if there is an issue, uh it'd be star state, that's right, because you have the database if need be all set your uh, elizabeth, specific with their secure, interesting is because russian never precluded down from developing that democracy . the markets, whatever they want. the issue was always as the name of the organization stresses on security. yeah. correct. great. so that we use that to principles and backed by the charter east, down all the address, the for them. obviously, there is a prince that both off indivisibility of security, that is, you asked to stay short and increase your security at the expense of an offer. and there is another principle at dot, allows us the state to freely choose your

a security arrangements. now if you apply these 2 principles to states like georgia, ukraine, i mean, yeah, as a badge umbrella. russo, i'm all of us, you half of the landmarks and you can as a practice, all states the landmarks by force and, but that's probably not as advisable. s. i think there are people knocked, it means to deal with this issue and back to the property, then lead to, to and all as an agreement on the status of these countries that is close to non alignment neutrality. something like that. combined re, security guarantees combined the box, the dogs control agreements, you know, that would prevent, for instance, nato in establishing natal infrastructure at the ukrainian or russian board or anything that's to uh, a reality specifically on the principle of individuals ability or security. because

i heard you say no, i can get some panel that you would loft, uh, the countries the number stays by 2025. not only if it can meet you, they will principles, but to try to read the find them in the, in a new way that would be workable for all. do you think that's still a possibility? i think not by 2025, for a box. you know, if you think complex prevention long term into your atlantic and duration area, i don't see any all the way then to a deeded beat that the line must be dispensed cuz i don't think the global conflicts can be one way of dealing with it. now absolutely, and i think if you want that, i will need either and i think at some point the need to a come back to the negotiation table and then basically going back, trying to reconstruct your b security order. you know that, that it allows us to reconnect to these principles box by you open to

addressing these. um, do you see that most and uh, i think uh, distribution. uh, it's not gonna happen tomorrow about the my talking. the stories politically implies ideas. well, a for that to have happened besides, also need to come to a 2nd calculus that a piece is more beneficial for, for that goals then more. and i think on the russian side, it's pretty, it's easier to defined where the russians can draw their line because they said that they've been very open about it. but what about the west? when do you think the western powers will calculate that? a piece is uh, is better for that long term security goals, then war for them, the proxy conflict. look, i don't have a great football or it, but i would agree with you with that. the backlog or the socks archman calls the

mutual you heard things they made, which makes the columns they tried for resolution is not reached yet. and i think of both sides, they don't seem to be released stopped by military means. they can reach a much more advantageous uh, an aggregation position. i wouldn't exclude that at some point, you know, they're at ration exhaustion, sightseeing and, and you know, that resource option of negotiations i bought for the time being uh, i bought my, uh, the most realistic scenario that i see for months to companies. unfortunately, continuation of a high density complex. now, uh, in previous conflicts uh, in which european powers took part, i mean in various conflicts of the century. and the cost to the european population was either minimal or non. this time around is different than the economic advantage corporation that has long sir as, as,

as the tailor also have both the village and cause of prevention and europe has been summer. how big of a challenge is it for european countries as far as you're concerned? and do you think that will lead to any sort of reassessment in, in values or political commitments in, in europe? i would absolutely agree that the costs are half feet enrollments in, in you're going to turn terms in economic terms in political terms. uh, you know, the issue with the us, a current agent moving in some sort of a cold war spot, i think in the short term uh, you know, energy shortages, etcetera. i think that being a database, the people, people suffer about my perception, you know, off the political situation in your being congress is cleaning

it all with that. and this is all, these are the, the ukraine is thoughts that, you know, did, did to these sufferings, are taken into account and, and, and so it's neat or, you know, the rest of the chief, always not energy shortages. dr. me to change at these to in the medium term, the perception of you know, that you're be in the audience. i remember that in the audience, the golden years, there was a lot of tension between political rights and economic cries and more developed more prosperous countries were sort of in the habit of a preaching down to uh, less prosperous the in our view. also retiring neighbors and sort of prioritizing

political rights over the economic necessity, given that to europe. for the 1st time i this century has to deal with the past to actually struggle with fulfillment though for can only cries for it for its own citizens. do you think it may change the geese course, at least in general, and the realization how, how important is the economy versus politics? i hope it be the lead us again to recognize how important a comprehensive approach to securities and basically the political russian, all of the csc and the always c was always uh, combining uh, political military, uh, issues military uh, fast hall security issue long and economic in my mental affairs this, i think i mentioned the human dimension, meaning a respect for human rights, rule of law and democratic institutions. and i agree to deal with that has been the

history of the always the is a history of play. one i mentioned against the other. again, at the same time the organization has always been proud for it's comprehensive approaches that you're at the, and the as the security channel. i have always reminded participating states at the end, you know, so security, it consists of these different dimensions. and you should also be respectful of different. i've mentioned that also respect all the states. you know, that may perceive economic and environmental affairs to be a more, more relevant like the central agency all day. so we're saying that we have to be respectful of diversity, which don't you think has become a rather controversial proposition this days. the diversity of views, political, economic, humanitarian views should be respected. i, i agree with you. this is a, unfortunately, this is

a feature all of the extremely polarized police deal environment that's very occurring teen it's, it's a feature and also cold war. for those of us that half of these to coldwell was on the cold war and correct me if i'm wrong because i was born in the final years of the cold war. but i remember that at that time difference was actually respected because it was dangerous. there was a realization that was fear, that if you don't respect the, your partner enough, you know, they, the wolf can blow up into pieces. do thing that here. a best response for, for the out. i mean, is there, i think there is the, at these, the, among the major powers, the various states that a certain respect, you know, for. so for instance, for the concept of mutually assured destruction, i think that it hasn't been seriously on the mind or and, and fortunately and above, you know, what was the typical feature of the cold war was basically these uh,

images of the any. and i don't want to, yeah, uh, i'm right. you're wrong by definition. eh, and i think i see that happen again and on both sides. you know, i'm, i'm, i wonder between the rules and i'm struck by that and that, so both sides of invest, a locked in narratives that are then being sold market that as deep sold true. well, at that time, back in the seventy's, the 2 sides were wise enough to come up with the new forum and you east west for them to try to discuss those differences. let's keep our fingers crossed, the the that is still possible in this day and age. in any case, i really appreciate your bravery and your time during this interview. thank you. thank you so much for your interest. and thank you for watching hope to hear again

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the a car ramming and stabbing attack hits tel aviv leaving 7 people wounded. this aspect was killed, that emergency services are working on the theme. also ahead. at least 10 people are killed in janine, following one of the largest, as really raves and attacks on the west bank in the to the in refugee camps with the palestine red crescent society saying that the idea is, is allowing humanitarian organizations to properly treat injured civilian teams have a please do noise act in some cases and delete access to it. others is stuff that were made to go themes and also so to their uh, mobile phones. and that's what i want them to deal with from injuries. how many of

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a isabel happy you can join us as a car ramming and stopping in tel aviv has left 7 people wounded. a warning. some viewers may find the following images disturbing, the suspect to stab at least one person after exiting his vehicle was later shot dead. the incident comes a day after israel launch the bigots, ariel and ground defensive in the west bank city of jeanine into decades targeting a refugee camp with air strikes and raids. a local reporter gave what he saw at the scene and tell of the as you can see behind it is the scene where the power wise with you as many as possible. riley, you're on that bad placement at the northern part of the deep either right? wide river. it was. and you can see that damage because did to that box station. and then the officer that said, jerry said was also the car and we price of the senior staff people on the one of

these rather than add that and gotten them according to the police. fast shot them . and then you realize that they are out from land to west bank. thank you re, and he has a special permission to dump these routes, or maybe we saw that you know, some of the people here at long last season. some are more than the right being on the map and that there's a lot of bands in between them even here on the, on the seeing the running as far as zach and some of them saying because of the last remaining and some of that thing because of the road. 9 and. busy bad day for a government point. 3 names that right leading and based on rom, anything, do you guys trying to get you while on the floor? so maybe this is why he's trying to ask the latest lation. suzanne, what you saw in the recent days in the name of the bank and we set it rally sag by gardner before the really right. for many years,

we didn't see it may be deeply resolved, but the fact that they know that it will be one of the injured parties. a 46 year old woman is in critical condition. according to the rescue service raw file poach spokesperson for the united hot sala medical organization brings us his account of what happened. the number for volunteers uh, were dispatched to an emergency took place on the intel a be and responded within less than a minute. so the seeing they saw that there had been a car aiming at a bus stop. a number of people were injured. there's $200.00 gunshots around the area. one person was injured from a stab wounds, bleeding profusely. one person in serious condition, a number of others in various degrees of injury like a mattress as well people suffer promotional psychological saw are human beings

very quickly responded treated to people the same. and then also, or secret trauma, price response seem to provide an emotional psychological stabilization for those and suffering from shock treating and stabilizing them at the scene before they were taken to the hospital for continuing treatment. we do the best that we can to provide treatment to limit the amount of, of injuring damage. but these things are very difficult things to see, to be, to be, to have to respond to a regular basis. now for contacts, at least 10 people have been killed in a 100 injured in the past 24 hours. it is really a tops in the west bank city of janine, according to local officials, with another $120.00 reportedly arrested. the violence follows the is really military's raid on a local refugee camp, including a medical center claiming to target palestinian terrorist groups in the area. the

local residents throw stones at tractors, blockading the city to prevent a legit palestinian militants from leaving. janine observers have said this read is the largest into decades. at least 10 air strikes by is really defense forces have been reported. israel claims that everyone that was killed had participated in combat and says there are no plans to expand their operation. the, the palestinian health ministry reported the highest number of casualties in the island since last year. the leader escalation follows mounting concerns from the un security council. and israel's prime minister says his troops will push on until all their objectives are achieved. how sign right?

present societies, folks 1st and the ball far soc, describes the situation in the refugee camps as dire. well underlining that humanitarian organizations are being denied access to be injured by israel yesterday to every critical and hard conditions for most of the and civilians. inside the accounts, we obviously sense all schools for human to turn in cases, whether it's children or elderly people or 60 and we're calling us to have any back to you. we see them outside of the account of generally have run out of basic needs such as a bed for me, this is there anything else? so the situation is really hard and it's of fixing every one. we face great difficulties in access to any of the tears. you can get the june to the great destruction and the infrastructure and the woods besides the blocks. and that it could you camp as surrounded by, as randy military's from different areas and medical teams

have a fee is denied access in some cases and delete access in others. um to of, i would ask you, this is where it stopped and that is really soldiers took the, the keys of the ambulances and just stopped our medical teams and also took their, uh, mobile phones. and that's kinda with them to deal with some injuries. so basically we are just calling for the protection of the medical team, so we can context or what a humanitarian role evaluates the situation and know exactly what is the top priorities and the me in need of items for those who, where you've actually just outside of the teacher let's discuss as this journalist and political analyst, robert inc, flush cache welcome robert. so easily launch the largest rate and it's half in decades at the janine refugee camp. why launch a raid at such

a refugee camp that has all of these innocent civilians? what exactly is israel trying to achieve? well, that's interesting because everyone is trying to figure out exactly what the goal of this small military operation as they are cooling at some, is really military commanders or even saying it's a special and fight terrorism event. it's not describing it as a military operation. we know that netanyahu and your guidance as defense minister were the ones who called the shots to initiate this. they had the opportunity to launch a large scale attack on the northern west bank earlier just around a week ago. but refused to do so. so this in of itself looks like a, an attempt to, to win favor with the is rarely writes some of the extreme, this in the west bank, who in protesting and cooling on these really governments and launch such an attack . the janine refugee camp itself and that you need area of when we're looking at it

and the arm fighters there, we have to understand who they are. these are people between the ages of 17 to 24. primarily they have on themselves with life weapons and they are specifically and explicitly are there to attack the israelis when they come into the the can or they come in to the janine area so they are repel and force. they are a defensive force. we don't actually see that the, that the janine brigades are tearing off attacks outside, or they're going into tell of even caring of these attacks. interestingly, you will see the attack until it be, was carried out by a lone wolf who was from the city. and that the city of lower hebron is the summer, most of the city in the west bank. it's very far from jeanine. all of these attacks which are carried out on settlers and are carried out as well in tel aviv and areas like this are carried out by loan bolts. not that you need for gays, but the jeanine brigades has become the name and space. and so israel claims that this is a terrorist hub on these these are not sophisticated groups in israel.