x, so using vegetable proteins, they're out, they're actually uh, not only advocating for their product, but the crew they, they ultimately criticize dairy in general, ult lee is certainly one company that comes to mind right now in america. you're seeing the company advertising, in many newspapers, uh ads. they put their putting as criticizing dairy, so it is something we haven't seen before, but you can see that right now. uh, both sides i guess are challenging each other. but still, we have to recognize the fact that the dairy lobby in north america is still quite influential and powerful. have we actually considered what would happen if dairy farms around the world actually started closing? and do you see some of the same lack of consumption in present day? how can potentially lead to that? it's not just the supply of milk which will be affect. i mean, there's a whole ecosystem we have to worry about. oh, absolutely. so when you think about

a dairy farm, you have to think of the oak eco system around it to think of the machinery. i think of the jobs and the work in rule america and rule canada. i mean, those are critical things. when you think about how to grow and economy, you can just groat economy by amplifying urban centers. you have to think about, you know, uh, farm land use and, and, and you really quickly realize that animal proteins play a huge role. uh, with, with territory occupancy basically in north america, it's quite clear to a lot of farmers are actually growing crops to feed animals. uh and of course with dairy farms. uh, you have very far as really being quite a busy uh, growing crops to feed animals and so on and so forth. so there's a huge eco system around each and every farm and north america that can be so that

can be denied really. so obviously the dairy sector is quite critical for agrifood economy in north america. on a global perspective, united nations, food and agriculture organization, and just announced milk, eggs and meet are vital sources of nutrients and calories. but does this not go against the push we're seeing to go big and globally, or do use more alternatives to dairy and other types of naturally grown agricultural products? i think uh the message that, at least i'm hearing is, is that the issue of proteins in general is very much about choice. it's not about this or that. it's more about this and that for many years obviously animal proteins have had all the attention the world. and most consumers in north america were fixated in, in, in eating and consuming animal proteins. but now we have options. i think what the

un is saying basically is that yes, they are traditions, the, they are habits and it's not necessarily bad to eat, drink milk, eat dairy products, eat meat. but at the same time we do have alternatives. now we can also embrace, that's kind of how i'm reading you when the, when's message that came out recently? do you agree with what they're saying? you know, unfortunately, sometimes politicians say things not based on actual scientific factors or what is actually happening on the ground. rather they get their sources from libraries or things which might just look good on paper. do you agree with what their assumption is? i do. i do. uh, i think uh i've, i've always believed that it's important for consumers to, to be empowered with options and not deny them of options through legislation. i don't think it's right at the same time though, i certainly would,

would prioritize transparency. texas, for example, just recently passed a law forcing a protein, retailers so groceries to label. uh, what's in the product, if there are insects, for example, or if the product is actually called debated in the lab and that's coming in the us probably by the end of 2023 retailers will be forced to label a presence of cultivated meat products and so i think that's, that's an important thing to do because it will inform consumers properly. it will provide more transparency and that's kind of what it's missing right now. and if you, if you lose the trust of consumers, a lot of things can happen unfortunately. thank you. dr. shaw, the boy stay with us. after the break, we're going to continue our conversation, ask, who is hurting the dairy industry is gross. the much the

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the most new and that'll be for them. imagery of us to florida doesn't want that extra them, but adults under that welcome back. we're continuing our conversation regarding the global trend away from terry . we're still very in charlotte blah, who is a canadian researcher and professor and food distribution and policy adult hoisin, university and halifax, nova scotia, canada. he's also a former dean of the university's faculty of management. thank you for continuing to join us doctor, you know, i am finding this conversation fascinating because for the majority of our adult lives and even our children's we were told organic was a way to go. in fact, the less scientific involvement in food and more just naturally grown from the

earth, was a goal for ourselves, our bodies, and more importantly what we felt our children. are you concerned this trend seems like almost the exact opposite? well, uh many years ago, uh organics were the only option option. we had the outsides. conventional food. uh, i mean, uh, the main street, the main street and stuff really dominated the marketplace. and so if one someone wanted to get something different, they had to go with organics. and right now with this i, per fragmentation of, of our food demand, we're seeing more innovation, we're seeing more companies looking at the market very differently. we're not talking about the consumer anymore, we're talking about consumers recognizing that all of us have different needs different wants. and, and that's great. i think cuz of the last i'd say 10 years or so we've,

we've made some great progress and, and i actually do believe uh, at least based on the data that we have in canada, consumers are actually way more fu, literate and protein literate since cove. it because we are spending more time on home, we are cooking more, we know more recipes reviews, new ingredients, and so consumers are much more engaged now and was inflation. it got even, it got even better. i think people are much more careful with how they spend their money. they're investing and interest and not just, they're not just buying calories. so when it comes to proteins, obviously they're looking around. they're looking for different options. if, if the meat counter spokes the, if they only look at the me try fact beef chicken and pork which has been the case for decades, they'll actually move elsewhere and try to seek a more affordable protein source. could this lead to more malnutrition and some of

those areas around the world, which was already struggling to have a food source for consumption. you're taking something as natural a way that an animal can provide. i think we all, we always have to be concerned about food and security. i think, i think we're, we're bound to see food in secure regions around the world. unfortunately. uh cuz you have wars uh, geo politics unfortunately. so there's always a country out there or region impacted by climate change as well severely. and that leads to fam and unfortunately, and we saw that a few years ago, we're seeing it still today. and so i think our best hope is to actually is to better tool our farmers to grow and increase yields and, and make sure making sure that that crops remain as affordable as possible,

including pulses, lentils chick peas and all those crops that we grow in north america, and that would allow, eventually, a groups that are impacted by climate change. uh, do you have access to affordable protein? what does not happen in north america, in recent years, uh, is to see plant based solutions, analogs, uh, being price fordable, a for consumers. uh, they're often priced higher, they're more expensive, but that, that is about to change. we're our state, we're starting to see a shift in the marketplace. there was a huge gap of about 3540 percent between analogs and, and traditional meat products. but that is going down progressively and so i do believe that at the counter will reach parity very, very soon with dairy. and darrow toyota is we have reached parity pretty much. and

so right now, if a consumer wants old milk or story milk, all new milk your, we are expecting a consumer to, to spend as much money as if that person would want dairy milk. are you worried, as we've so often found, when you deal with money and consumption to, and the consumer that we could be compromising the integrity of the nutrition of a product to make it cheaper product? i mean, how can consumers know which food comes from the ground or lab? so yeah, right now, uh what, what uh, what we found in recent years is that for uh, alternatives there was a special nation to replicate. what was already out there, a beef pork chicken. the reality is that most north americans enjoy eating meat products. so what they but they came in with a product that was more expensive, more a rule to a pro,

build or process and not as healthy. and so it, it was hard to see to understand why a consumer would off for something that is more expensive, less nutritious, and it goes through the process to replace something that they actually already enjoy. so what that is about to change, what we're seeing right now are many companies reformulating making their products healthier. and this, and this fascination to replace something this stomach share mentality is, is slowly fading away. and this is what's new. and agra food, i think, is that the stomach share mentality, which means food is a 0 sum game. if i, if i get as a company i get into your stomach as a consumer, the other person, the other company won't, it's not the case anymore. actually do think that consumers or the marketplace is, is after values. and so what's it, what's,

what values are imbedded in play base products? well, planets the environment, animal, welfare, things like that. people are actually going to look at products very differently. and in the for this 3 has been slow adapting to this new reality, but we're getting there. so i don't believe that plant base product or vegetable proteins won't be nutritious, fall that 4 foot 4 or 4 feet long. and as far as, as a countries that are impacted by famine or food insecurity, well, i do believe that they'll be more on process commodities provided to them. and of course, if it's on process it's, it's pretty healthy. of course it's, it boils down to affordability, and that's been a challenge over the last 12 months, but now things are way more stable. interesting, you did just bring up another aspect in all of this, the climate change debate. and what is going on with the animal concerned,

or the treatment of animals? you know, he'd just produced a 12 page document on why people should stop drinking milk. one reason is they considered animal abuse, saying the mass production of dairy turns innocent and gentle cows into industrialized milking machines. your thoughts on this, their legitimate concerns. uh i, i, uh, worked on very farms when i was a kid, i'm very much aware of what happens on very farms, but most see dollars do not. i mean, they don't understand their genetics and how things work and, and, and farmers, uh, they were all for advocacy. they're out there trying to educate the public about, about the hard work they do. but they've never get freak out of it. perhaps what singers were hearing from them are things that they would like when appreciate, you know, uh there are things on, on, on farms that, you know,

for someone who does, does not understand agriculture could be troubling. you know, so that's the one thing that is going on right now, and that's why more, more people are concerned about animal welfare questioning our industrialized model . uh, is it, is this really something we wanna encourage? yes or no? and so i do believe that that it will, welfare concerns won't disappear, they will likely grow overtime. and here's the other thing that makes us believe that it will change is that all the last few years, many, many people have gotten new pets at home in canada alone, 16000000 pets are owned by humans. and as soon as it's in, it's in the scientific literature, as soon as you have a pets uh at home, your perspective about it, well, fair changes. and so you are basically expecting to

a certain extent that farmers will treat their animals the same, or as city dwellers would treat their pets. and that's not going to go away. we're having less children, we're having more pets. so i do believe that a worker will continue to be a growing concern for, for, for people. now, a pita is of course, a lobby group. so you have to also understand and there they are. there's, there's some history behind dairy and it's not new that we've been milking cows and producing milk so that, that also needs to be appreciated as well. progress will lead to change, but it will take some time. i mean, the treatment of animals is just one element of it. then there's the climate change element. new york city mayor eric adams came out and said the vast majority of food is contributing to our emissions crisis lies in meat and dairy products. we already know a plant power diet supposedly is better for your physical and mental health. is it

better for the planet? do you believe towels and dairy farms are really the source which needs to be targeted right now, causing damage to our planet? or is this just kind of escape? i do think for other reasons instead of dealing with climate change these days. oh, a little. so 1st of all, the dairy sector uh is uh, is of course, looking at climate change very seriously. they are looking at reducing gas emissions as much as possible. and uh, and many dairy groups around north america are aiming at becoming carbon neutral uh 520402050. uh so they are aware that they need to change and they are aware that their practices right now uh may not be consistent with uh with the targets um set by the parents agreement for example,

by 2030. but we are seeing some movements. so putting pressure on the very sector is not necessarily a bad thing, but to actually claim that this is just not an viable option at this point would be, i would say premature cuz you need to allow the industry to adap and changing technologies will come forward to help dairy farmers to become more environmentally friendly and that takes time. thank you professor sylvia charlotte blah for joining us. a year the dairy industry has faced many challenges and recent years which have contributed to his struggles. it's important to note that while the dairy industry is facing these challenges, it continues to be a significant sector in many regions and dairy products. ramirez stapleton, the diets of many people worldwide, efforts are also be made within the industry to adapt. these are changing consumer preferences, improving the sustainability practices and exploring new market opportunities is

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year old woman, is in a critical condition, according to rescue services. spokes person for the united. how to the medical organization, russell puck things as his account of how things on folders. a number of her volunteers were dispatched to an emergency took place on the and so be and responded within less than a minute. so the seeing they saw the different been a car aiming at a bus stop. a number of people were injured. they're still hearing gunshots from around the area. one person was injured from a stab wound, was bleeding profusely. one person in serious condition, a number of others in various degrees of injury like a mattress as well. people, something promotional psychological saw, are human beings very quickly responded treated to people the same. and then also, or secret trauma, price response seem to provide an emotional psychological stabilization for those and suffering from shock treating and stabilizing them at the scene before they

were taken to the hospital for continuing treatment. we do the best that we can to provide treatment to limit the amount of, of injuring damage. but these things are very difficult things to see, to be, to be, to have to respond to underwriter basis as well. apartment s has announced the operation engine is coming to an end, and the rate is well defense forces troops f o strips attached the refugee camp is one of the local medical center, leaving 11 dead and wounding over a 100. according to local officials. it's the local residents through stones. it's not locating the city which is well play with it with us. it prevents palestinian militants from escaping. at least 10 strikes were supposed to be launched by the idea with as well. the time that everyone kills was the direct consequence of home. but i think that that on no time to expand the

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